The Greatest Post-Season Series Ever

[LAZERUSS]

Single single post-season series by an individual player. You can include as much circumstantial evidence as you like (such as individual opponent, team opponent, etc.)

[Young X]

MJ vs. '90 76ers:

43.0 PPG
7.4 RPG
6.6 APG
4.0 SPG
61.6 TS%
124 ORtg

[ArbitraryWater]

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=301057

[sd3035]

Maybe Jerry West's amazing 1969 finals. He even won finals MVP on a losing team. It's a shame his big man choked away the series

[LAZERUSS]

Maybe Jerry West's amazing 1969 finals. He even won finals MVP on a losing team. It's a shame his big man choked away the series

Baylor was only 6-5.

[LAZERUSS]

West's '69 Finals performance does deserve a mention. A seven game series against the GOAT Dynasty.

37.9 ppg
7.4 rpg
7.4 apg

Four games of 40+, with a high of 53. Game seven of 42 points, 13 rebounds, and 12 assists.

[dubeta]

LeBron vs 2009 Orlando Magic in ECF

38.5ppg 8.3reb 8ast on 48% FG and 59% TS



This was against the #1 defense in the league, in a modern slow-paced era, with a MUCH tougher defensive scheme than any other player ever faced.

[LAZERUSS]

Wilt's First Round demolition of the Royals in the '67 playoffs.

28.0 ppg, 26.5 rpg, 22.6 TRB%, 11.0 apg, .617 FG%. (A Triple-Double series.)

The .617 eFG% came in a post-season NBA that shot an eFG% of .424...or nearly 20 percentage points higher than the post-season league average.

Two Triple Doubles in a five game series...

37-27-11
16-30-19 (and with an estimated 20 blocked shots.)

High game of 41 points.
19 assists in game three tied the playoff record at that time.

[Bandito]

LeBron vs 2009 Orlando Magic in ECF

38.5ppg 8.3reb 8ast on 48% FG and 59% TS



This was against the #1 defense in the league, in a modern slow-paced era, with a MUCH tougher defensive scheme than any other player ever faced.
The same team Lebron lost against and Kobe defeated single handledly :applause:

[1987_Lakers]

Wilt's First Round demolition of the Royals in the '67 playoffs.

28.0 ppg, 26.5 rpg, 22.6 TRB%, 11.0 apg, .617 FG%. (A Triple-Double series.)

The .617 eFG% came in a post-season NBA that shot an eFG% of .424...or nearly 20 percentage points higher than the post-season league average.

Two Triple Doubles in a five game series...

37-27-11
16-30-19 (and with an estimated 20 blocked shots.)

High game of 41 points.
19 assists in game three tied the playoff record at that time.

The starting center for that Royals team was a 6 foot 9 Connie Dierking.:roll:

[LAZERUSS]

The starting center for that Royals team was a 6 foot 9 Connie Dierking.:roll:

Kind of like Shaq's 2000 and 2002 Finals, right?

[LAZERUSS]

Dr. J's '77 Finals.

30.3 ppg
6.8 rpg
5.0 apg
2.7 spg
.543 FG%

In the clinching game six two-point loss...

40 points, on 17-29 FG/FGA, 6-7 FT/FTA, 6 rebounds, and 8 assists.

[BlakFrankWhite]

The GOAT post season performance is Russell Westbrook vs GSW,2015.....coming soon

[dubeta]

The same team Lebron lost against and Kobe defeated single handledly :applause:

Kobe sure made history that season. First FMVP to never shoot better than 50% in any game in the series :applause:

[BlakFrankWhite]

The same team Lebron lost against and Kobe defeated single handledly :applause:


Had a all-time great and future hall of famer Pau Gasol as his team-mate....but defeated Magic 'single-handedly'....nice try kobe fans

[1987_Lakers]

Kind of like Shaq's 2000 and 2002 Finals, right?

Rik Smits was 7 foot 4.:roll:

[LAZERUSS]

Rik Smits was 7 foot 4.:roll:

So was Swede Halbrook. Wilt destroyed him in their H2H's.

[winwin]

''stats are for those who didn't watch''


Kobe Bryant


In '01 against the Queens and Spurs I think are his best

The big games he had that that year:

The Kings series:
Game 3 36/7/4/2

Game 4 48/16/3/2

The Spurs series:
Game 1 45/10/3

Game 3 36/9/8


2001 vs. the Spurs was just dominant. It wasn't even about the stats. His stats were crazy-

Game 1- 45 points and 10 rebounds with a block and a steal
Game 2- 28 points, 7 rebounds, 6 assists with 2 steals and a block
Game 3- 36 points, 9 rebounds, 8 assists with a steal
Game 4- 24 points and 11 assists with 2 steals in 34 minutes

But he was just flat out punishing the Spurs. Defensively he held Antonio Daniels below 40% for the series, he was passing the ball great, he was rebounding over Duncan and Robinson, and he was attacking the rim with a purpose.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PCdhA41wgms



c/p

[LAZERUSS]

''stats are for those who didn't watch''


Kobe Bryant


In '01 against the Queens and Spurs I think are his best

The big games he had that that year:

The Kings series:
Game 3 36/7/4/2

Game 4 48/16/3/2

The Spurs series:
Game 1 45/10/3

Game 3 36/9/8


2001 vs. the Spurs was just dominant. It wasn't even about the stats. His stats were crazy-

Game 1- 45 points and 10 rebounds with a block and a steal
Game 2- 28 points, 7 rebounds, 6 assists with 2 steals and a block
Game 3- 36 points, 9 rebounds, 8 assists with a steal
Game 4- 24 points and 11 assists with 2 steals in 34 minutes

But he was just flat out punishing the Spurs. Defensively he held Antonio Daniels below 40% for the series, he was passing the ball great, he was rebounding over Duncan and Robinson, and he was attacking the rim with a purpose.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PCdhA41wgms



c/p

The Shaq fans have to concede that without Kobe in '01 and '02, Shaq is minus two rings and two FMVPs.

[KobesFinger]

Not the best here but Kobe against San Antonio in 2001

33.3PPG
7.0RPG
7.0APG
1.5APG
0.8BPG

on. 514/.357/.769 shooting inc a 45/10 game on the road

The Spurs had a DRtg of 98.0 (1st) and allowed 88.4PPG (3rd) on. 419 shooting (2nd) in the toughest defensive era with both zone and handchecking legal

[1987_Lakers]

So was Swede Halbrook. Wilt destroyed him in their H2H's.

This guy who only lasted 2 seasons in the NBA?:oldlol:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/00/Swede_Halbrook.jpg/250px-Swede_Halbrook.jpg

[LAZERUSS]

This guy who only lasted 2 seasons in the NBA?:oldlol:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/00/Swede_Halbrook.jpg/250px-Swede_Halbrook.jpg

So what?

Height has little bearing on dominance.

Rodman crushed Shaq on the glass in their '96 playoff H2H's. In fact, he was able to defend him, as well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wg3BiOw4TWo

And we know that the 6-7 Ben Wallace pounded Shaq on the glass in the '04 Finals, too.

[Kvnzhangyay]

The Shaq fans have to concede that without Kobe in '01 and '02, Shaq is minus two rings and two FMVPs.

But without Shaq, their minus 3 rings :/

Basically both needed one another

[LAZERUSS]

But without Shaq, their minus 3 rings :/

Basically both needed one another

No doubt, but in those two seasons, it certainly wasn't Shaq just carrying Kobe.

[1987_Lakers]

So what?

Height has little bearing on dominance.

Rodman crushed Shaq on the glass in their '96 playoff H2H's. In fact, he was able to defend him, as well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wg3BiOw4TWo

And we know that the 6-7 Ben Wallace pounded Shaq on the glass in the '04 Finals, too.

Just look at this guy's competition.:oldlol:

http://i.cdn.turner.com/nba/nba/history/legends/wilt-chamberlain/wilt-chamberlain-warriors.jpg

[ArbitraryWater]

The Shaq fans have to concede that without Kobe in '01 and '02, Shaq is minus two rings and two FMVPs.

If you simply retract Kobe and add no one else?

No ****ing shit, geezer

[AkronAngel]

2013 Finals for me. We had the Parker game winner early in the series and then that game 6 it what helped seal it as a classic.

[OldSchoolBBall]

MJ vs. '90 76ers:

43.0 PPG
7.4 RPG
6.6 APG
4.0 SPG
61.6 TS%
124 ORtg

This was gonna be mine too. His defensive impact that series was also phenomenal - so disruptive. Also, his 1991 Finals:

31.2 pts/6.7 reb/11.4 ast/2.8 stl/1.4 blk/56% FG/65% TS

[LAZERUSS]

Just look at this guy's competition.:oldlol:

http://i.cdn.turner.com/nba/nba/history/legends/wilt-chamberlain/wilt-chamberlain-warriors.jpg

As well as guys like Elvin Hayes, Wes Unseld, Dave Cowens, Willis Reed, Walt Bellamy, Bob Lanier, Nate Thurmond, Bill Russell, Kareem, and even Artis Gilmore (whom he schooled in the 71-72 NBA-ABA ASG.)

[dubeta]

The Shaq fans have to concede that without Kobe in '01 and '02, Shaq is minus two rings and two FMVPs.

So without Kobe, Shaq would still have the same rings and FMVPs as Wilt?

[Magic 32]

Kobe sure made history that season. First FMVP to never shoot better than 50% in any game in the series :applause:

Still, can't beat the majesty of Lebron's 7 turnovers in the last 10 minutes of Game 4.

Almost one turnover per minute for the entire 4th and OT in the deciding game of the series.

Pure magic.

http://www2.pictures.gi.zimbio.com/Cleveland+Cavaliers+v+Orlando+Magic+Game+6+2_W-gygo1ZPl.jpg

[AkronAngel]

If you simply retract Kobe and add no one else?

No ****ing shit, geezer

The crazy thing is, the Lakers were so dominant in the 2001 playoffs that if you take Kobe away, there is a small chance the Lakers could still have won.

[LAZERUSS]

If you simply retract Kobe and add no one else?

No ****ing shit, geezer

Well, unless you can find a "replacement" that would put up Kobe's numbers in the Kings and Spurs series in '01 and '02...

[dubeta]

Well, unless you can find a "replacement" that would put up Kobe's numbers in the Kings and Spurs series in '01 and '02...

Literally any player in the league who can make open shots.

[LAZERUSS]

So without Kobe, Shaq would still have the same rings and FMVPs as Wilt?

No, he would have had one less FMVP. Chamberlain would have been an overwhelming MVP in the '67 Finals, had the award existed.

But thanks for playing...

[1987_Lakers]

As well as guys like Elvin Hayes, Wes Unseld, Dave Cowens, Willis Reed, Walt Bellamy, Bob Lanier, Nate Thurmond, Bill Russell, Kareem, and even Artis Gilmore (whom he schooled in the 71-72 NBA-ABA ASG.)

Notice how most of those guys you listed came into the league during Wilt's second half of his career.

[ArbitraryWater]

Well, unless you can find a "replacement" that would put up Kobe's numbers in the Kings and Spurs series in '01 and '02...

Well, I know that Shaq would have won those 2 titles, replacing Kobe with any other top 6 Player... irrelevant of exact production.

Carter, Grady, Hill, Iverson, Ray Allen even...

2002 WCF would be the only close year, but anyone wins with the refs.

[Magic 32]

Well, I know that Shaq would have won those 2 titles, replacing Kobe with any other top 6 Player... irrelevant of exact production.

Carter, Grady, Hill, Iverson, Ray Allen even...



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[AkronAngel]

Rik Smits was 7 foot 4.:roll:

lol

[AkronAngel]

Well, I know that Shaq would have won those 2 titles, replacing Kobe with any other top 6 Player... irrelevant of exact production.

Carter, Grady, Hill, Iverson, Ray Allen even...

2002 WCF would be the only close year, but anyone wins with the refs.

2001 for sure. The other would be close.

[LAZERUSS]

The starting center for that Royals team was a 6 foot 9 Connie Dierking.:roll:

BTW, give me the list of true CENTERS that Hakeem faced in his three playoff series before the '94 Finals.

It amazes me that when Chamberlain just crushed his "non-HOF" centers in his post-season play, it gets blown off. But no one mentions that Shaq's '00 Finals came against a washed up Smits in his last season, or that his '02 Finals came against the legendary Todd McCullough.

Hell, Zelmo Beaty had a FAR greater career than either Smits or McCullough...and Wilt hung a 39 ppg, 23 rpg, .559 FG% (in a post-season NBA that shot .420) seven game series on him.

And I have long maintained that Russell built up his post-season stats primarilary against the Lakers of the 60's, which came in five Finals. Chamberlain never faced the 60's Lakers even ONCE in his post-seasons. But, if he had...


Ok, here we go:

'59-60:

Against the entire NBA that season: 37.6 ppg on a .461 FG%

Against the Lakers in 9 H2H's: 36.8 ppg on a .430 FG%

High games of 41, 41, 41, 45, and 52.


'60-61:

Against the entire NBA: 38.4 ppg on a .509 FG%

Against the Lakers in 10 H2H's: 40.1 ppg on a .506 FG%

High games were 41, 41, 43, 44, 46, and 56 points.


'61-62:

Against the entire NBA: 50.4 ppg on a .506 FG%

Against LA in 9 H2H games: 51.6 ppg on a .503 FG%

High games of 48, 56, 57, 60, 60, and 78 (with 43 rebounds.)


'62-63: Against the entire NBA: 44.8 ppg on a .528 FG%

Against LA in 12 H2Hs: 48.6 ppg on a .541 FG%

High games of 40, 40, 42, 53, 63, and 72 points.


'63-64: Against the entire NBA: 36.9 ppg on a .524 FG%

Against LA in 12 H2Hs: 44.3 ppg on a .484 FG%

High games of 40, 41, 47, 49, 50, 55, and 59 points.


'64-65: Against the entire NBA: 34.7 ppg on a .510 FG%

Against LA in 8 H2Hs: 29.9 ppg on a .476 FG%

High games of 40, 40, and 41 points.


'65-66: Against the entire NBA: 33.5 ppg on a .540 FG%

Against LA in 10 H2Hs: 40.8 ppg on a .559 FG%

High games of 42, 49, 53, and 65 points.


'66-67: Against the entire NBA: 24.1 ppg on a .683 FG%

Against LA in 9 H2Hs: 26.4 ppg on a .759 FG%

High games of 32, 37, and 39 points.


'67-68: Against the entire NBA: 24.3 ppg on a .595 FG%

Against LA in 7 H2Hs: 28.1 ppg on a .638 FG%

High games of 31, 32, 35, and 53 points.


Overall, in those 86 games:

40 Point Games: 42

50 Point Games: 19

60 Point Games: 7

70 Point Games: 2

High game of 78 points.

[LAZERUSS]

Notice how most of those guys you listed came into the league during Wilt's second half of his career.

Again...so what?

A prime Chamberlain was FAR more dominant against Reed, Bellamy, and Thurmond, as well as Imhoff and Dierking, than a prime Kareem was. And KAJ faced those guys nearing the ends of their careers.

BTW, how about this from Wilt's LAST season...


Chamberlain, at age 36, and in his LAST season vs the best centers in the league:


Vs. Cowens in 4 H2H's:

Cowens: 31.3 ppg, 19.8 rpg, .454 FG%

Wilt: 14.3 ppg, 14.5 rpg, .588 FG%



vs. Reed in 3 regular season H2H's:

Reed: 12.0 ppg, 10.0 rpg, .471 FG%

Wilt: 6.3 ppg, 23.3 rpg, .529 FG%

vs. Reed in 5 Finals' H2H's:

Reed: 16.4 ppg, 9.2 rpg, .493 FG%

Wilt: 11.6 ppg, 18.6 rpg, .525 FG%


vs. Bellamy in 4 H2H's:

Bellamy: 17.0 ppg, 18.0 rpg ( 2 known games), .400 FG% (2 known game)

Wilt: 9.8 ppg, 20.5 rpg, .593 FG%


vs. Unseld in 4 H2H's:

Unseld: 12.8 ppg, 15.3 rpg, .481 FG%

Wilt: 12.8 ppg, 20.8 rpg, .769 FG%


vs. McAdoo in 4 H2H's:

McAdoo: 16.8 ppg, 8.8 rpg, .450 FG% (3 known games)

Wilt: 20.5 ppg, 21.3 rpg, .850 FG%


vs. Thurmond in 7 regular season H2H's:

Thurmond: 12.3 ppg, 21.6 rpg, .315 FG%

Wilt: 5.1 ppg, 16.6 rpg, .684 FG%

vs. Thurmond in 5 playoff H2H's:

Thurmond: 15.8 ppg, 17.2 rpg, .373 FG%

Wilt: 7.0 ppg, 23.6 rpg, .611 FG%


vs. Lanier in 6 H2H's:

Lanier: 21.2 ppg, 13.4 rpg (5 known games), .374 FG% (5 known games)

Wilt: 19.8 ppg, 16.3 rpg, .764 FG%



vs. Kareem in 6 H2H's:

Kareem: 29.5 ppg, 17.8 rpg, .450 FG%

Wilt: 11.0 ppg, 16.0 rpg, .737 FG%

Aside from the Cowens H2H's, a 36 year old Chamberlain fared fairly well, wouldn't you agree?

[LAZERUSS]

Notice how most of those guys you listed came into the league during Wilt's second half of his career.

And how about 68-69 then...


68-69:

Nate Thurmond vs. Wilt in 6 regular season games:

Nate: 17.3 ppg, 23.8 rpg, 4.3 apg, .346 FG%
Wilt: 13.8 ppg, 23.7 rpg, 3.7 apg, .547 FG%

Nate vs. Wilt in 6 playoff games:

Nate: 16.7 ppg, 19.5 rpg, 4.7 apg, .392 FG%
Wilt: 12.0 ppg, 23.5 rpg, 2.5 apg, .500 FG%

Clinching game six:

Thurmond: 8 pts, 14 rebs, 1 ast, 3-13 FG/FGA
Wilt: 11 pts, 25 rebs, 1 ast, 5-9 FG/FGA



Bill Russell vs Wilt in 6 regular season games:

Russell: 6.7 ppg, 17.0 rpg, 5.8 apg, .340 FG%
Wilt: 16.0 ppg, 24.0 rpg, 4.7 apg, .493 FG%

As a side-note, Wilt had one H2H game in which he outscored Russell by a 35-5 margin, and another H2H game in which he outrebounded Russell, 42-18.

Russell vs. Wilt in 7 Finals games:

Russell: 9.1 ppg, 21.1 rpg, 5.2 apg, .397 FG%
Wilt: 11.7 ppg, 25.0 rpg, 3.0 apg, .500 FG%

Clinching game 7:

Russell: 6 pts, 21 rebs, 6 ast, 2-7 FG/FGA
Wilt: 18 pts, 27 rebs, 3 ast, 7-8 FG/FGA



Elvin Hayes vs. Wilt in 7 regular season games:

Hayes: 31.0 ppg, 14.3 rpg, 1.4 apg, .452 FG%
Wilt: 25.6 ppg, 20.1 rpg, 6.6 apg, .577 FG%

As a side-note, here were Elvin's and Thurmond's 5 regular season H2H's:

Hayes: 28.2 ppg, 17.6 rpg, 2.3 apg (4 games), .463 FG% (4 games)
Nate: 23.8 ppg, 20.8 rpg, 3.0 apg (4 games), .385 FG% (4 games)



Wes Unseld vs. Wilt in 6 regular season H2H's:

Unseld: 11.0 ppg, 20.7 rpg, 2.6 apg (5 games), .345 FG% (5 games)
Wilt: 21.5 ppg, 22.2 rpg, 4.7 apg (5 games), .626 FG% (5 games)

As a side-note, in their last regular season H2H that year:

Unseld: 4 pts, 9 rebs, 3 ast, 1-9 FG/FGA
Wilt: 25 pts, 38 rebs, 7 ast, 12-16 FG/FGA

As another side-note, in their very first H2H game the next season:

Unseld: 23 pts, 23 rebs, 3 ast, 10-17 FG/FGA
Wilt: 38 pts, 22 rebs, 2 ast, 16-26 FG/FGA



Walt Bellamy vs Wilt in 9 regular season games:

Bellamy: 18.8 ppg, 15.8 rpg (7 games), 2.6 apg (5 games), .403 FG% (5 games)
Wilt: 23.2 ppg, 22.3 rpg, (8 games), 6.3 apg (5 games), .745 FG% (7 games)

As a side-note, in their last meeting in that season:

Bellamy: 18 pts, 9 rebs, 1 ast, 5-17 FG/FGA
Wilt: 34 pts, 27 rebs, 7 ast, 14-14 FG/FGA



Willis Reed vs Wilt in 2 regular season H2H's:

(Reed took over the center position after Bellamy was traded in mid-season)

Reed: 20.0 ppg, 9.5 rpg, 3.0 apg, .459 FG%
Wilt: 28.0 ppg, 22.0 rpg, 4.0 apg, .688 FG%.

[T_L_P]

Not the greatest, but one of them is Duncan vs. Mavs, 2003:

28.0 PPG
16.7 RPG
5.8 APG
3.0 BPG
57% shooting

His 03 Finals is up there also. Best defense I've ever seen someone play.

[Asukal]

Post season? Not going to be wilt that's for sure. :oldlol: :whatever:

[LAZERUSS]

Post season? Not going to be wilt that's for sure. :oldlol: :whatever:

Nope...


The 64-65 EDF's pitted a peak Russell and a peak Wilt against each other in what would be a monumental seven game series.

Russell played 340 out of the 341 minutes, and Wilt played every minute. Russell fouled out with a minute left in the OT game four.


Game 1:

Russell 32 out of 121 (TRB% of 26.4)
Wilt 31 out of 121 (TRB% of 25.6)

Game 2:

Russell 16 out of 124 (TRB% of 12.9)
Wilt 39 out of 124 (TRB% of 31.5)

Game 3:

Russell 26 out of 123 (TRB% of 21.1)
Wilt 37 out of 123 (TRB% of 30.1)

Game 4:

Russell 25 out of 142 (TRB% of 17.6)
Wilt 34 out of 142 (TRB% of 23.9)

Game 5:

Russell 28 out of 122 (TRB% of 23.0)
Wilt 21 out of 122 (TRB% of 17.2)

Game 6:

Russell 21 out of 128 (TRB% of 16.4)
Wilt 26 out of 128 (TRB% of 20.3)

Game 7:

Russell 29 out of 122 (TRB% of 23.8)
Wilt 32 out of 122 (TRB% of 26.2)

Totals:

Russell 177
Wilt 220

Total Rebounds in the series:

882

TRB% for the entire series:


Russell 20.1
Wilt 24.9


Wilt also held a 35-22 edge in known blocks, which, as we know, reduces TRB%'s.


Oh, and Chamberlain also outscored Russell, per game, in that series, 30.1 ppg to 15.6 ppg.) Overall, he outrebounded Russell, per game in the series, 31.4 rpg to 25.2 rpg. He outshot Russell from the floor in that series, .555 to .447. And, he also outshot Russell from the FT line, .583 to .472 (while, as always, outscoring Russell from the line 49-17.) Russell did hold a 47-23 assist advantage (6.7 apg to 3.3 apg.)

Keep in mind that during their 11 regular season H2H's, Russell averaged 12.9 ppg, 22.2 rpg, 4.6 apg, and shot .281 from the field. Chamberlain averaged 25.4 ppg, 26.5 rpg, 4.2 apg, and shot .473 from the floor.

So, Chamberlain DRAMATICALLY ELEVATED his play against Russell in the EDF's...all while taking his 40-40 team to a game seven, one point loss, against Russell's 62-18 Celtics.

A 30 ppg, 31 rpg, 3.3 apg, 7.0 bpg (known), .555 FG% (in a post-season NBA that shot .429 overall), .583 FT%, .560 TS% series In a post-season that shot a TS% of .475.)

Oh, and in the clinching game seven one point loss...Chamberlain scored 30 points on 15 FGAs (12-15... or .800 FG%)...with 32 rebounds. He also scored 8 of his team's last 10 points, including 2-2 from the line with 36 secs left, and a dunk on Russell with 5 secs left to pull them within 110-109.

The ONLY 30-30 series in NBA post-season history.

[AirBourne92]

Well, I know that Shaq would have won those 2 titles, replacing Kobe with any other top 6 Player... irrelevant of exact production.

Carter, Grady, Hill, Iverson, Ray Allen even...

2002 WCF would be the only close year, but anyone wins with the refs.


only a cornball reject like arbitrary retard would think iverson, allen, grady, and carter or hill would be able to elite offense and defense like kobe did in the 3 peat

and for the record, without kobe, lakers NEVER 3 peat, nor get 1 ring.

kobe's investment in 2000 was irreplaceable. he took the lakers to the finals by sealing the series.

[1987_Lakers]

Post season? Not going to be wilt that's for sure. :oldlol: :whatever:
:applause:

[LAZERUSS]

Post season? Not going to be wilt that's for sure. :oldlol: :whatever:

Wilt's '67 EDF's, which came against the 60-21 and EIGHT-TIME DEFENDING champion Celtics, and BILL RUSSELL:

He outscored Russell, per game in that series, 21.6 ppg to 10.2 ppg; outrebounded Russell, per game, 32.0 rpg to 23.4 rpg; outassisted Russell, per game, 10.0 apg to 6.0 apg; and outshot Russell from the field, by a .556 to .358 margin.

Oh, and in the clinching game five burial of the Celtics...

Wilt outscored Russell, 29-4 (with 22 points coming in the first half when the game was still close); outshot Russell from the floor, 10-16 to 2-5; outassisted Russell, 13-7; and outrebounded Russell, 36-21.

Of course, Chamberlain not only had three triple-double games in that five game series, he also had a KNOWN QUAD-DOUBLE of 24-32-13-12.

Oh, and for those that value TRB%...Chamberlain enjoyed a 25.2 to 18.2 TRB% advantage.

[DonDadda59]

only a cornball reject like arbitrary retard would think iverson, allen, grady, and carter or hill would be able to elite offense and defense like kobe did in the 3 peat

Iverson got the Sixers to the Finals single-handedly and beat the Lakers once, only team/player that could make that claim that postseason. Not far-fetched to think he could actually win with prime Shaq as his teammate. Same with all of those other guys. Kobe wasn't really anything special in '00, especially not in the finals :lol


and for the record, without kobe, lakers NEVER 3 peat, nor get 1 ring.

That's just silly.

[Dr Hawk]

Hakeem in 88:

37.5/16.8/1.8/2.3/2.8 .571 FG% .641 TS%

134 ORtg 102 DRtg GmSc 34.2

Only 4 games though, and Houston lost against the Mavericks

[AirBourne92]

Iverson got the Sixers to the Finals single-handedly and beat the Lakers once, only team/player that could make that claim that postseason. Not far-fetched to think he could actually win with prime Shaq as his teammate. Same with all of those other guys. Kobe wasn't really anything special in '00, especially not in the finals :lol



That's just silly.

im sorry i have to spoon feed your remedial brain

iverson was not replacing kobe on BOTH sides of the floor

iverson taking up kobe's defensive assignments= disaster

and dont even get me started on that weak ass eastern conference standings

:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol

go crawl back into your dad's asshole mutha fucqqqa

[Dr.J4ever]

Dr. J's '77 Finals.

30.3 ppg
6.8 rpg
5.0 apg
2.7 spg
.543 FG%

In the clinching game six two-point loss...

40 points, on 17-29 FG/FGA, 6-7 FT/FTA, 6 rebounds, and 8 assists.

Nah, the year before was even better vs. Denver.

Kevin Loughery, the Nets' Coach at that time, recently said of Erving's play in the ABA, "He had more talent at that stage--we asked him to do everything. I really believe--and I've told this to Doc--that the NBA never saw the real Dr. J. I really believe that. In the ABA he did things that were incredible. We asked him to do everything. We won the (1976) championship playing against Denver when they had Bobby Jones, an All-League defensive player. He had the best playoff series in a championship series that I've ever seen one individual have." Erving's numbers certainly support Loughery's contention, as the Doctor led both teams in scoring (37.7 ppg), rebounding (14.2 rpg), assists (6.0 apg), steals (3.0 spg) and blocked shots (2.2 bpg) in the 1976 ABA Finals. Pat Putnam wrote a great Sports Illustrated story about the first four games of the series, when Erving rang up 158 points, 51 rebounds, 22 assists, eight steals and seven blocked shots.

[JohnFreeman]

Tough one, probably LeBron

[Mr Feeny]

The Shaq fans have to concede that without Kobe in '01 and '02, Shaq is minus two rings and two FMVPs.

Not exactly. Put any decent Wing, Mcgrady, Carter, or practice boy and they win 4 instead of 3.

The reverse is true though. Without possibly the most dominant player peak wise off all time, Kobe has 3 less sidekick rings:applause:

[Mr Feeny]

Iverson got the Sixers to the Finals single-handedly and beat the Lakers once, only team/player that could make that claim that postseason. Not far-fetched to think he could actually win with prime Shaq as his teammate. Same with all of those other guys. Kobe wasn't really anything special in '00, especially not in the finals :lol



That's just silly.

Exactly. Right. With Iverson,Carter, or Mcgrady you would be an idiot to be against them winning ATLEAST 3 (especially in Mcgrady ' s case)

15 ppg on 36%fg in the finals can be replaced by any scrub, unfortunately for Kobe stans:no: