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Im Still Ballin
03-28-2015, 04:01 PM
Such a plethora of talent coming in from the center position...

Demarcus, Howard, Jefferson, Whiteside, Gobert, Noel, Embiid, WCS, Okafor, Towns Jr, Gasol, Duncan, Noah, Deandre, Bogut, Chandler, Adams, Nurkic, Horford, Mozgov, Jonas Val, Nene/Gortat, Vucevic, Drummond, Monroe...

WCS, Towns and Okafor are going to all be all-stars

So much talent from the center postion, with Demarcus sitting right at the top

DonDadda59
03-28-2015, 04:03 PM
:kobe:

Weak era for big men.

navy
03-28-2015, 04:04 PM
Such a plethora of talent coming in from the center position...

Demarcus, Howard, Jefferson, Whiteside, Gobert, Noel, Embiid, WCS, Okafor, Towns Jr, Gasol, Duncan, Noah, Deandre, Bogut, Chandler, Adams, Nurkic, Horford, Mozgov, Jonas Val, Nene/Gortat, Vucevic, Drummond, Monroe...

WCS, Towns and Okafor are going to all be all-stars

So much talent from the center postion, with Demarcus sitting right at the top
Bolded are the players that dont belong on the list as the next great big man era.

Im Still Ballin
03-28-2015, 04:04 PM
It's not a stretch to think that Okafor could drop 20/10 next season in the NBA

At least close to it.

Im Still Ballin
03-28-2015, 04:05 PM
Bolded are the players that dont belong on the list as the next great big man era.
I'm including them just to show the depth of bigs

Uncle Drew
03-28-2015, 04:09 PM
The big man is basically dead. The one we used to know at least.

DonDadda59
03-28-2015, 04:11 PM
It's not a stretch to think that Okafor could drop 20/10 next season in the NBA

At least close to it.

Nigguh, did I just catch you making a thread?

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Im Still Ballin
03-28-2015, 04:13 PM
http://i.imgur.com/MOhPtut.gif

ShawkFactory
03-28-2015, 04:13 PM
The big man is basically dead. The one we used to know at least.
What is Okafor?

Siemens
03-28-2015, 04:14 PM
Such a plethora of talent coming in from the center position...

Demarcus, Howard, Jefferson, Whiteside, Gobert, Noel, Embiid, WCS, Okafor, Towns Jr, Gasol, Duncan, Noah, Deandre, Bogut, Chandler, Adams, Nurkic, Horford, Mozgov, Jonas Val, Nene/Gortat, Vucevic, Drummond, Monroe...

WCS, Towns and Okafor are going to all be all-stars

So much talent from the center postion, with Demarcus sitting right at the top

It has improved from the late 2000s, but I wouldn't call it a great era. You listed a lot of mediocre bigs.

Crose
03-28-2015, 04:14 PM
Nigguh, did I just catch you making a thread?

http://cdn.makeagif.com/media/3-28-2015/ZSUday.gif
op has you on a leash :lol

LAZERUSS
03-28-2015, 04:15 PM
What is Okafor?

He's like the new proto-typical NBA center...

6-9 1/2.

SpecialQue
03-28-2015, 04:16 PM
Such a plethora of talent coming in from the center position...

Jefferson, Whiteside, Gobert, Noel, Embiid, WCS, Okafor, Towns Jr, Gasol, Duncan, Noah, Deandre, Bogut, Chandler, Adams, Nurkic, Horford, Mozgov, Jonas Val, Nene/Gortat, Vucevic, Drummond, Monroe...

WCS, Towns and Okafor are going to all be all-stars

So much talent from the center postion, with Gasol sitting right at the top

Fixed.

Im Still Ballin
03-28-2015, 04:18 PM
We'll have to see how these up and coming centers turn out but as far as depth at the position, it looks very solid. It was very top heavy about 20 years ago, and the depth was decent. It'd be stupid to not mention the rules changes as well... This league doesn't favor the big like it did in the illegal defense era

DonDadda59
03-28-2015, 04:18 PM
op has you on a leash :lol

:kobe:

OP knows he's not allowed to make any more threads. Dude's on probabtion right now. Lucky I'm even letting him post in other people's threads.

Im Still Ballin
03-28-2015, 04:18 PM
He's like the new proto-typical NBA center...

6-9 1/2.
7-5 wingspan

Very quick

Im Still Ballin
03-28-2015, 04:19 PM
Okafor is like a mix between Jefferson and DMC

LAZERUSS
03-28-2015, 04:19 PM
7-5 wingspan

Very quick

Similar to Russell then.

We will see if he has anywhere near the defensive impact that Russell had, though.

KungFuJoe
03-28-2015, 04:19 PM
Next mediocre era for big men.

Siemens
03-28-2015, 04:20 PM
Nigguh, did I just catch you making a thread?

http://cdn.makeagif.com/media/3-28-2015/ZSUday.gif

:roll:

LAZERUSS
03-28-2015, 04:26 PM
Gobert is a legit 7-0 (7-0 1/2) with a 7-8.5" wingspan, and a standing rach of 9-7...but, he only has a 29" max vert.

Whiteside is 6-10 1/2, with a 7-7 wingspan, and a standing reach of 9-5, and at least his max vert is somewhat better, at 31.5".

CavaliersFTW
03-28-2015, 04:27 PM
Where are their MVP's. Look at it this way Ballin, I know your gimmick is to try to combat much of the old era hyperbole as you possibly can, but here's the truth.

Russell, Chamberlain, Reed, Cowens, Unseld, Jabbar/Alcindor, Walton and the centers of the era of late 50's to mid 70's were winning MVP's and/or getting a lions share of MVP votes every single season. It was almost a guarantee a center was going to win MVP every season for over 15 years, and there were often at least 2 or 3 other centers in said "MVP" race every time, sometimes more. In a smaller league than today, so they battled each other for highest award in the league much more often. That was hands down the greatest big man era centers had MVP's and anchored NBA titles on lock for like 15 straight years.

The next best was the 90's where another group of centers were winning a few MVP's and/or at the very least getting a good deal of MVP votes and made great playoff/Finals runs and deserved attention for their talents. People who don't know any better might try and argue otherwise but it honestly wasn't as dramatic as the 60's-70's center dominance. The league was bigger, they played each other less, and they weren't locks at the top of MVP races like they were a few decades prior. But it was still the next best "era" of the big man.

This up and coming "big man era" you speak of, will have to have these bigs at or near the top of MVP races for a good solid decade straight winning at least half with at least half a dozen of them gunning for the MVP's in order for it to be in the company of the late 50's-mid 70's or the 90's. The guys are talented for sure. But do they have the guts to fight for top honors in the league, and will a good deal of other guys that play their position also be fighting for that honor accordingly? Those 60's and 90's centers felt insulted if they didn't get MVP, they felt they were the greatest. I don't see centers today express that same competitiveness you've got to feel entitled to those honors and fight tooth and nail to get them. Time will tell, but that's what would be necessary to compare favorably to the prior "big man" eras.

Im Still Ballin
03-28-2015, 04:41 PM
What happened to all these super freak centers? Are they all going to volley-ball or something?

RightToCensor
03-28-2015, 04:46 PM
Traditional Big Men don't win in today's era. That's just how it is.

A 3-Pointer is more than a 2.

CavaliersFTW
03-28-2015, 04:50 PM
Traditional Big Men don't win in today's era. That's just how it is.

A 3-Pointer is more than a 2.
Only if said 3 point shot is hit at a rate guarantee'd to surpass a big-mans inside scoring percentages.

For example, if a big is shooting 55-60% near the rim on two's (and getting fouled a lot getting numerous 3 point opportunities) than a 3 point shooter is going to have to be shooting that 3 point shot at a helluva high % to equate to the big man's offense. Some can do that under the right systems. But it isn't common.

And anyways, a 3 point shooter is made better by a potent offensive big on the inside, and visa versa. They are complimentary to each other.

IGOTGAME
03-28-2015, 04:59 PM
7-5 wingspan

Very quick

very quick on offense...not so much on defense

DonDadda59
03-28-2015, 05:05 PM
Traditional Big Men don't win in today's era. That's just how it is.


:facepalm

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RightToCensor
03-28-2015, 05:12 PM
I'm talking about back to the basket, number 1 option big men, dumbass.

Duncan and Pau weren't even the best players on their team. Pau didn't even win in today's era of threes and layups.

Who are the best post players in the league? Cousins, Pau, Z-Bo, Lopez, Horford, Jefferson, Bosh, Duncan. All of them are either the number one option and out of the playoffs, or play within a system that is depended on perimeter play to be successful.

Don't ever reply to me with more of your retardness, again. Be gone.

Im Still Ballin
03-28-2015, 05:12 PM
Shooters are too good today, imagine this warriors team playing the 90's teams...

They'd smoke em

SaltyMeatballs
03-28-2015, 05:13 PM
Lots of the guys you listed won't even be good in the next 5 years.

warriorfan
03-28-2015, 05:28 PM
Such a plethora of talent coming in from the center position...

Demarcus, Howard, Jefferson, Whiteside, Gobert, Noel, Embiid, WCS, Okafor, Towns Jr, Gasol, Duncan, Noah, Deandre, Bogut, Chandler, Adams, Nurkic, Horford, Mozgov, Jonas Val, Nene/Gortat, Vucevic, Drummond, Monroe...

WCS, Towns and Okafor are going to all be all-stars

So much talent from the center postion, with Demarcus sitting right at the top









:yaohappy: :yaohappy: :yaohappy:

I love it when this bitch tries to talk ball....so funny

bizil
03-28-2015, 05:44 PM
I'm not ready to make that statement right now. I need to see more alpha dog quality from the position. Guys who can win an MVP and be franchise players. In the 90's, u had Shaq, Robinson, Ewing, Dream, and Zo all on that kind of level at the same time. As of now, I don't think its ANYWHERE close to happening. The power forward position has become the PREMIER big man position. It's been that way for the last 15 years.

zoom17
03-28-2015, 05:49 PM
Bolded are the players that dont belong on the list as the next great big man era.

Dude talks out his ass :oldlol:

FKAri
03-28-2015, 05:50 PM
Nah they're all garbage

poido123
03-28-2015, 06:00 PM
Please don't rob us of Joel Embiid in this league. That guy is the real deal.

DonDadda59
03-28-2015, 06:04 PM
I'm talking about back to the basket, number 1 option big men, dumbass.

AKA Tim Duncan.


Duncan and Pau weren't even the best players on their team.

Duncan was. Look at the Lakers post Pau and the Bulls now.


Pau didn't even win in today's era of threes and layups.

:oldlol:


Who are the best post players in the league? Cousins, Pau, Z-Bo, Lopez, Horford, Jefferson, Bosh, Duncan. All of them are either the number one option and out of the playoffs, or play within a system that is depended on perimeter play to be successful.

What perimeter players are more 'depended' on by the Bulls or the Grizzlies, both championship contenders, more so than Pau or Z-Bo/Marc?

I'll wait.


Don't ever reply to me with more of your retardness, again. Be gone.

:oldlol:

buddha
03-28-2015, 06:48 PM
alot of good talent but very little great talent.

Eric Cartman
03-28-2015, 06:51 PM
I'm talking about back to the basket, number 1 option big men, dumbass.

Duncan and Pau weren't even the best players on their team. Pau didn't even win in today's era of threes and layups.

This will go over well :rolleyes: