Mirotic is the best rookie

[Nash]

Should be ROY

[blacknapalm]

uh, no. between wiggins and noel. i like mirotic but upside also belongs to wiggins/noel.

mirotic is awesome. great pump fake, quick first step, finishes w/ contact. scary part is that his shot hasn't really fallen until recently. he could be the 3rd best rook so chicago should be stoked he was picked 23rd.

[plowking]

Idiotic Lebron fans.

[Nash]

c'mon son we used to be on the same team.

[TheMilkyBarKid]

Most polished, yes. Not the best though.

[JohnFreeman]

Yeah, but **** the Bulls

[JtotheIzzo]

usually when twenty year olds live rent free, it is in their mom's basement.

Wiggins has so many people wide open right now it blows my mind.

post hate about Wiggins, you lose, at best you are in the PB ranks (and rank as in stink).

[keep-itreal]

the next toni kukoc

[dontgetchoked]

Yeah, but **** the Bulls
**** you, you ugly ass bastard.

Nikola is the best rookie but not Roy I can live with that.

[Jameerthefear]

he is. his impact is above the other rookies.
however, that doesn't mean he'll be the best player and he's the oldest

[navy]

He is, but he shouldnt be rookie of the year.

[beastee]

Wiggins or Noel or Payton can have the hardware...Mirotic is going to be the difference in the playoffs for the Bulls. He has taken the Bulls to the next level. The Bulls 8-9 man rotation is probably the strongest in the East now with his emergence and once Rose comes back it will all fall in place.

The crazy thing is Doug McDermott was supposed to be the immediate impact with his shooting, but Niko's impact on the court for the Bulls is immense.

[Achilleas]

miro is near his potentian he is older but he has the most expierience playing for real madrid who always go to final 4,so in the big matches in playoffs he will be prepared

[veilside23]

miro is near his potentian he is older but he has the most expierience playing for real madrid who always go to final 4,so in the big matches in playoffs he will be prepared


this people fail to realize that mirotic is 5 years older than most of the rookies..
same way brandon roy played better i know roy is a great player but gotta factor his age... then there is also manu ginobli .. age doesnt always determine the players greatness but the experience of playing and if your coach believes in you . you should have no problem giving them numbers...

hassan whiteside has been a revelation lately because of experience and his coach.

[Hamtaro CP3KDKG]

He is easily the most impactful rookie, then Nerlens. But ROY always goes to the rookie with the most points and minutes played so Wiggins will win it

[Kblaze8855]

He turned 24 a month ago. He has quite a while to improve. And id say right now hes the best rookie. 21/8 off the bench leading the NBA in 4th quarter scoring in March is nothing to laugh at. Hes clearly not gonna win ROY.....but that doesnt mean any rookie is better.

Perhaps a couple will be. But they arent right now.

On a bad team that let him run wild like Wiggins does with no regard for victory he would be a 20ppg player already and likely win ROY with less impact on the league.

Hes holding down a contender while they get healthy. You cant ask many rookies to do that.

[plowking]

He turned 24 a month ago. He has quite a while to improve. And id say right now hes the best rookie.

He isn't the best rookie though. Wiggins quite clearly is.

Having one good month doesn't really mean much in he grand scheme of things, simply because it is one month. Wiggins had a month putting up 20/5/3 on better shooting than Mirotic and no one said anything.

[Milbuck]

He isn't the best rookie though. Wiggins quite clearly is.

Having one good month doesn't really mean much in he grand scheme of things, simply because it is one month. Wiggins had a month putting up 20/5/3 on better shooting than Mirotic and no one said anything.
No he's not "clearly" the best. Mirotic is right there with him, playing high impact, borderline all-star level basketball for a quality playoff team that desperately needed him to do so.

And Mirotic isn't having one good month because he just randomly got hot. The only reason Mirotic hasn't been putting up these numbers all year is because he's playing on what is supposed to be a contender, with a loaded front court, with a coach who takes forever to trust young players. He's just recently starting to get his opportunities, and he's making the absolute best of it.

The skill, feel, BBIQ, overall ability he's showing now is nothing new. I've been watching Bulls games a lot this year and he's shown all of this early on, the only thing lacking was confidence and experience, which comes with minutes that he wasn't getting. If he was on a team like Minny where he was getting a consistent 35-38 mpg like Wiggins, he would've been lighting it up consistently for far longer.

As for Wiggins' tear...you don't remember the dozens of "LOL CAVS SCREWED UP WIGGINS IS A SUPERSTAR" threads? Not that Mirotic threads are exactly flooding the front page anyways...

[plowking]

No he's not "clearly" the best. Mirotic is right there with him, playing high impact, borderline all-star level basketball for a quality playoff team that desperately needed him to do so.

And Mirotic isn't having one good month because he just randomly got hot. The only reason Mirotic hasn't been putting up these numbers all year is because he's playing on what is supposed to be a contender, with a loaded front court, with a coach who takes forever to trust young players. He's just recently starting to get his opportunities, and he's making the absolute best of it.

The skill, feel, BBIQ, overall ability he's showing now is nothing new. I've been watching Bulls games a lot this year and he's shown all of this early on, the only thing lacking was confidence and experience, which comes with minutes that he wasn't getting. If he was on a team like Minny where he was getting a consistent 35-38 mpg like Wiggins, he would've been lighting it up consistently for far longer.

As for Wiggins' tear...you don't remember the dozens of "LOL CAVS SCREWED UP WIGGINS IS A SUPERSTAR" threads? Not that Mirotic threads are exactly flooding the front page anyways...

TL; DR. He isn't the best rookie or ROY.

[Milbuck]

TL; DR. He isn't the best rookie or ROY.
Thanks for the response bud. Hold this L.

[ThickassGlasses]

No he's not "clearly" the best. Mirotic is right there with him, playing high impact, borderline all-star level basketball for a quality playoff team that desperately needed him to do so.

And Mirotic isn't having one good month because he just randomly got hot. The only reason Mirotic hasn't been putting up these numbers all year is because he's playing on what is supposed to be a contender, with a loaded front court, with a coach who takes forever to trust young players. He's just recently starting to get his opportunities, and he's making the absolute best of it.

The skill, feel, BBIQ, overall ability he's showing now is nothing new. I've been watching Bulls games a lot this year and he's shown all of this early on, the only thing lacking was confidence and experience, which comes with minutes that he wasn't getting. If he was on a team like Minny where he was getting a consistent 35-38 mpg like Wiggins, he would've been lighting it up consistently for far longer.

As for Wiggins' tear...you don't remember the dozens of "LOL CAVS SCREWED UP WIGGINS IS A SUPERSTAR" threads? Not that Mirotic threads are exactly flooding the front page anyways...

The biggest problem with anyone saying anyone but Wiggins is ROY or the best rookie is the fact that he's doing it while D'ing up the other teams best wing and usually getting the best wing defender on him.

[PleezeBelieve]

Wiggins have no real advanced statistical data or on court results to support Wiggins being better than multiple rookies out his own class.

That's laughable considering Wiggins has been given the green light to succeed more than rookie in a LONG time.

They always got the bullshit upside argument, tho. Which is also false.

[PleezeBelieve]

The biggest problem with anyone saying anyone but Wiggins is ROY or the best rookie is the fact that he's doing it while D'ing up the other teams best wing and usually getting the best wing defender on him.
:roll: :roll: :roll:

Wiggins stans are pathetic. They just make shit up as they go.

Can't wait till next season so I can shit on you idiots again. :bowdown:

[TripleA]

you have never been right about anything you clown you suck and all your predictions the opposite happens.

[Kblaze8855]

He isn't the best rookie though. Wiggins quite clearly is.

Having one good month doesn't really mean much in he grand scheme of things, simply because it is one month. Wiggins had a month putting up 20/5/3 on better shooting than Mirotic and no one said anything.

Why would they? Have we not all seen marginal players score on a team that doesn't care who wins and plays them 40 minutes?

Niko wouldn't be better at the game on the 76ers. He'd just score more.

He's making a key contribution and winning games for a team that needs him. I'm not worried what his season averages are.

Neither he nor Wiggins are what they average.

We well have to see what the future holds.... but watching Niko ately I can't see Wiggins doing anything to help us more.

Maybe a similar level.....but he's not gonna do any more.

[TripleA]

Can't wait till next season so I can shit on you idiots again. :bowdown:


BY Pleezebelieve
Kyrie Irving has 21st worst plus/minus differential (of 330 players) in the NBA
All the advanced stats say this guy is a very average all around NBA basketball player

The #1 Pick in 2014 will be Julius Randle, NOT Wiggins
5-star thread.

Perfect thread. You are absolutely right.

I dare you to come in here and say Dion Waiters won't be an electric NBA player
1st year: 13 ppg 3 rpg 2.5 apg 43/32/74

2nd year: 16 ppg 3.5 rpg 3.0 apg 45/34/78

3rd year: 18.5 ppg 4 rpg 3.5 apg 47/34/81

This will CONSERVATIVELY be his three year progression. Thank me later.

N*gga, I'm a prophet with this sh*t. Go ask about me. I'm never wrong.




take the loss :confusedshrug: :confusedshrug:

[D-FENS]

ROY: Wiggins

1st Team:
Andrew Wiggins
Nikola Mirotic
Elfrid Payton
Nerlens Noel
Jordan Clarkson

2nd Team:
Zach LaVine
Marcus Smart (he has been terrible, shot jacking, scared to drive, big ol' pu55y)
I have no idea who else even deserves it. Terrible year for rookies

[RRR3]

ROY: Wiggins

1st Team:
Andrew Wiggins
Nikola Mirotic
Elfrid Payton
Nerlens Noel
Jordan Clarkson

2nd Team:
Zach LaVine
Marcus Smart (he has been terrible, shot jacking, scared to drive, big ol' pu55y)
I have no idea who else even deserves it. Terrible year for rookies
Agree 100% on your first team :applause:

2nd team? Jusuf Nurkic, Smart, LaVine, Rodney Hood, Tarik Black, Langston Galloway, Jerami Grant, K.J. McDaniels are all candidates. Hell, Jabari Parker arguably could still make it :lol. Mitch McGary would have had a good chance if be played more games. But he still could make it I suppose. I feel as if I'm missing a few other rookies....

[Milbuck]

ROY: Wiggins

1st Team:
Andrew Wiggins
Nikola Mirotic
Elfrid Payton
Nerlens Noel
Jordan Clarkson

2nd Team:
Zach LaVine
Marcus Smart (he has been terrible, shot jacking, scared to drive, big ol' pu55y)
I have no idea who else even deserves it. Terrible year for rookies
Jabari on one leg deserves over any of the other bums.

[poido123]

He isn't the best rookie though. Wiggins quite clearly is.

Having one good month doesn't really mean much in he grand scheme of things, simply because it is one month. Wiggins had a month putting up 20/5/3 on better shooting than Mirotic and no one said anything.


Mitotic has a more polished game at this stage, which is to be expected from a guy who isn't a typical rookie and aged 24.


Given Wiggin's minutes all year, Mirotic would stand above him clearly.