2008 Team USA (Lebron, Kobe and Wade) Must watch!

[VengefulAngel]

If you have forgotten how athletic they were. Watch this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GvdpgXvw_mE

Wades speed and change of pace. :applause: :applause: :applause:

[SouBeachTalents]

Inb4 this becomes a LeBron vs Kobe vs Wade shitshow

[ShawkFactory]

Wade was the best player on this team.

[KirbyPls]

2nd and 3rd greatest shooting guards ever;

the soon-to-be greatest SF ever; and

nearly as Stacked as GSW this year. :eek:

[Dr Hawk]

Co-goat team usa

[scm5]

Wade had some really nice picks!

It makes me wonder how much fun Team USA will be if in 2016 they run with a lineup of:

Curry
Westbrook
KD
Lebron
Davis

Only reason why I'm including Curry in this is because his fastbreak 3's are so fun to watch. He also gets a ton of steals.

[JimmyMcAdocious]

The inclusion of Curry needs justification?

[ShawkFactory]

The inclusion of Curry needs justification?
:roll:

Right? Dudes gonna be the MVP.

[JohnMax]

Spanoulis gets blocked by Lebron (3:01)

[SamuraiSWISH]

Wade was the best player on this team.
Him and LeBron, statistically. Both were entering their peak. Summer 2008 was the first time LeBron played defense at a high level. Shut down Dirk in the game v.s. Germany.

Kobe was the team's intimidation factor, swagger and best perimeter defender by far. Also the default alpha in the most pressure packed situation of the tournament.

Wade was more clutch than Bron though, Gold Medal Game for proof.

That Olympics was Dywane's coming out party to prove he wasn't done after a summer getting in ridiculous shape, and after a season of injuries, courtesy of the great Tim Grover.

Best USA Olympic team I'd seen since the 1996 team. But honestly the most fun to root for because I was dying to see us take international competition seriously again, and reclaim our throne atop the basketball world.

The Redeem Team dominated everyone apart from that close Gold Medal Game, where the refs kept Spain in it due to asinine touch foul calls on our perimeter defenders. The game previous, they still had Jose Calderon, the refs didn't call the game so ticky tacky and we blew them out by like 38 or something.


1) 1992
2) 1996
3) 2008
4) 2012
5) 2000
6) 2004

[kennethgriffin]

i don't care what people say. the 2008 team could challenge the 1992 team

PRIME Kobe Bryant = arguably top 5 all time ( HOF )
PRIME Lebron James = arguably top 10 all time ( HOF )
PRIME dwyane wade = arguably top 20 all time ( HOF )
OLD jason kidd = arguably top 30 all time ( HOF )
PRIME chris paul = will be top 30 all time ( HOF )
PRIME carmelo anthony = will be top 40 all time ( HOF )
PRIME dwight howard = will be top 40 all time ( HOF )
PRIME chris bosh = will be top 50 all time ( HOF )
PRIME Deron Williams = still has a chance at HOF
PRIME Michael Redd = allstar/all nba
PRIME teyshaun prince = 4 time all defense


vs

PRIME Michael Jordan = arguably #1 all time ( HOF )
OLD FAT Magic Johnson = arguably top 5 all time ( HOF )
OLD BROKEN Larry Bird =arguably top 5 all time ( HOF )
PRIME Charles Barkley = arguably top 20 all time ( HOF )
PRIME Karl Malone = arguably top 20 all time ( HOF )
PRIME David Robinson = arguably top 25 all time ( HOF )
PRIME John Stockton = arguably top 30 all time ( HOF )
PRIME Patrick Ewing = arguably top 30 all time ( HOF )
PRIME Clyde Drexler = arguably top 40 all time ( HOF )
PRIME Chris Mullin = allstar/all nba ( HOF )
YOUNG Scottie Pippen = eventual top 30 all time ( HOF )
YOUNG Christian Laetner = eventual scrub

[scm5]

The inclusion of Curry needs justification?

I thought it was evident that I wanted to see that lineup run fast breaks. Westbrook, KD, Lebron, and AD on the court at the same time is sickening.

[SamuraiSWISH]

Curry, Kyrie, Harden, and Durant are unstoppable in terms of FIBA / Olympic ball.

With that shortened line. They stand back further than even the normal NBA 3 point line in the league, which not all those countries are accustomed to ... and just to bomb away.

This past summer's team wasn't the best from a talent perspective that I've ever seen. And they killed it. Just need interior defense, size, and shooters in international play.

[kennethgriffin]

Him and LeBron, statistically. Both were entering their peak. Summer 2008 was the first time LeBron played defense at a high level. Shut down Dirk in the game v.s. Germany.

Kobe was the team's intimidation factor, swagger and best perimeter defender by far. Also the default alpha in the most pressure packed situation of the tournament.

Wade was more clutch than Bron though, Gold Medal Game for proof.

That Olympics was Dywane's coming out party to prove he wasn't done after a summer getting in ridiculous shape, and after a season of injuries, courtesy of the great Tim Grover.

Best USA Olympic team I'd seen since the 1996 team. But honestly the most fun to root for because I was dying to see us take international competition seriously again, and reclaim our throne atop the basketball world.

The Redeem Team dominated everyone apart from that close Gold Medal Game, where the refs kept Spain in it due to asinine touch foul calls on our perimeter defenders. The game previous, they still had Jose Calderon, the refs didn't call the game so ticky tacky and we blew them out by like 38 or something.


1) 1992
2) 1996
3) 2008
4) 2012
5) 2000
6) 2004


1996 and 2008 are close


but 1996 gets disqualified for having nigerian born and raised hakeem olajuwon on its roster

[Papaya Petee]

i don't care what people say. the 2008 team could challenge the 1992 team

PRIME Kobe Bryant = arguably top 5 all time ( HOF )
PRIME Lebron James = arguably top 10 all time ( HOF )
PRIME dwyane wade = arguably top 20 all time ( HOF )
OLD jason kidd = arguably top 30 all time ( HOF )
PRIME chris paul = will be top 30 all time ( HOF )
PRIME carmelo anthony = will be top 40 all time ( HOF )
PRIME dwight howard = will be top 40 all time ( HOF )
PRIME chris bosh = will be top 50 all time ( HOF )
PRIME Deron Williams = still has a chance at HOF
PRIME Michael Redd = allstar/all nba
PRIME teyshaun prince = 4 time all defense


vs

PRIME Michael Jordan = arguably #1 all time ( HOF )
OLD FAT Magic Johnson = arguably top 5 all time ( HOF )
OLD BROKEN Larry Bird =arguably top 5 all time ( HOF )
PRIME Charles Barkley = arguably top 20 all time ( HOF )
PRIME Karl Malone = arguably top 20 all time ( HOF )
PRIME David Robinson = arguably top 25 all time ( HOF )
PRIME John Stockton = arguably top 30 all time ( HOF )
PRIME Patrick Ewing = arguably top 30 all time ( HOF )
PRIME Clyde Drexler = arguably top 40 all time ( HOF )
PRIME Chris Mullin = allstar/all nba ( HOF )
YOUNG Scottie Pippen = eventual top 30 all time ( HOF )
YOUNG Christian Laetner = eventual scrub
They potentially could. The Dream Team had a huge advantage down low however. But no, Bosh, Howard, and Carmelo aren't top 40-50 all time now or when they retire.

[kennethgriffin]

They potentially could. The Dream Team had a huge advantage down low however. But no, Bosh, Howard, and Carmelo aren't top 40-50 all time now or when they retire.


really?

howard - 18/13/2blk career average

2004 McDonald's All American
2004-05 NBA All-Rookie (1st)
2006-07 NBA All-NBA (3rd)
2007-08 NBA All-Defensive (2nd)
2007-08 NBA All-NBA (1st)
2008-09 NBA All-Defensive (1st)
2008-09 NBA All-NBA (1st)
2009-10 NBA All-Defensive (1st)
2009-10 NBA All-NBA (1st)
2010-11 NBA All-Defensive (1st)
2010-11 NBA All-NBA (1st)
2011-12 NBA All-Defensive (1st)
2011-12 NBA All-NBA (1st)
2012-13 NBA All-NBA (3rd)
2013-14 NBA All-NBA (2nd)

All-Star Games
2007 NBA
2008 NBA
2009 NBA
2010 NBA
2011 NBA
2012 NBA
2013 NBA
2014 NBA

Awards
2008-09 NBA Defensive Player of the Year
2009-10 NBA Defensive Player of the Year
2010-11 NBA Defensive Player of the Year

NBA Finals 2009


top 50 all time = LOCK


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Carmelo Anthony - 25/6/3/1 career average

2002 McDonald's All American
2002-03 NCAA AP All-America (2nd)
2003-04 NBA All-Rookie (1st)
2005-06 NBA All-NBA (3rd)
2006-07 NBA All-NBA (3rd)
2008-09 NBA All-NBA (3rd)
2009-10 NBA All-NBA (2nd)
2011-12 NBA All-NBA (3rd)
2012-13 NBA All-NBA (2nd)

All-Star Games
2007 NBA
2008 NBA
2010 NBA
2011 NBA
2012 NBA
2013 NBA
2014 NBA
2015 NBA


top 50 all time = chance ( needs more success )



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chris bosh - 19/9/2/1 career average

2002 McDonald's All American
2003-04 NBA All-Rookie (1st)
2006-07 NBA All-NBA (2nd)
All-Star Games
2006 NBA
2007 NBA
2008 NBA
2009 NBA
2010 NBA
2011 NBA
2012 NBA
2013 NBA
2014 NBA
2015 NBA

Championships
2012 Miami Heat (NBA)
2013 Miami Heat (NBA)


top 50 all time = CHANCE ( needs to pad more all nba teams )


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[SamuraiSWISH]

1992 beats 2008, or 2012 on peak MJ, peak Barkley, peak Malone, prime Pippen, and prime D-Rob / Ewing / alone. Too much size.

That 2008 team struggled with the physicality and size of peak Gasol, and young Marc Gasol ...

What are they going to do with Barkley, Malone, David Robinson, and Patrick Ewing?

1996 beats 2008, or 2012 on prime Shaq, Hakeem, D-Rob, Malone, Pippen and Barkley alone.

Once again, that team struggled with past prime Gasol, and just blossoming Marc Gasol ... yet they're not going to have trouble with Shaq, Malone, Hakeem, D-Rob, and Barkley?

Plus the perimeter defense with GP, Stockton, and Pippen? Plus shooters like Reggie and Mitch?

1996 team would've been even more bonkers if MJ was on that team.

1992 team does have it's glossed over faults. They had some guys that were rusty, past their prime, rookies or injured: Bird, Magic, Stockton, and Laettner. But their size down low, scoring ability down low, perimeter defense with Scottie ... and peak Jordan?

With Bosh? And Dwight Howard down low?

C'mon son.

[kennethgriffin]

1992 beats 2008, or 2012 on peak MJ, peak Barkley, peak Malone, prime Pippen, and prime D-Rob / Ewing / alone. Too much size.

That 2008 team struggled with the physicality and size of peak Gasol, and young Marc Gasol ...

What are they going to do with Barkley, Malone, David Robinson, and Patrick Ewing?

1996 beats 2008, or 2012 on prime Shaq, Hakeem, D-Rob, Malone, Pippen and Barkley alone.

Once again, that team struggled with past prime Gasol, and just blossoming Marc Gasol ... yet they're not going to have trouble with Shaq, Malone, Hakeem, D-Rob, and Barkley?

Plus the perimeter defense with GP, Stockton, and Pippen? Plus shooters like Reggie and Mitch?

1996 team would've been even more bonkers if MJ was on that team.

1992 team does have it's glossed over faults. They had some guys that were rusty, past their prime, rookies or injured: Bird, Magic, Stockton, and Laettner. But their size down low, scoring ability down low, perimeter defense with Scottie ... and peak Jordan?

C'mon son.


cant use everyone to their full potential. not enough shots to go around

which is why barkley lead the USA in scoring at like 15ppg



all a team really needs is a few legends and a good amount of backup help

its not a clear cut win for 1992 unless the games were 5-10 hours long

[ShawkFactory]

really?

howard - 18/13/2blk career average

2004 McDonald's All American
2004-05 NBA All-Rookie (1st)
2006-07 NBA All-NBA (3rd)
2007-08 NBA All-Defensive (2nd)
2007-08 NBA All-NBA (1st)
2008-09 NBA All-Defensive (1st)
2008-09 NBA All-NBA (1st)
2009-10 NBA All-Defensive (1st)
2009-10 NBA All-NBA (1st)
2010-11 NBA All-Defensive (1st)
2010-11 NBA All-NBA (1st)
2011-12 NBA All-Defensive (1st)
2011-12 NBA All-NBA (1st)
2012-13 NBA All-NBA (3rd)
2013-14 NBA All-NBA (2nd)

All-Star Games
2007 NBA
2008 NBA
2009 NBA
2010 NBA
2011 NBA
2012 NBA
2013 NBA
2014 NBA

Awards
2008-09 NBA Defensive Player of the Year
2009-10 NBA Defensive Player of the Year
2010-11 NBA Defensive Player of the Year

NBA Finals 2009


top 50 all time = LOCK


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Carmelo Anthony - 25/6/3/1 career average

2002 McDonald's All American
2002-03 NCAA AP All-America (2nd)
2003-04 NBA All-Rookie (1st)
2005-06 NBA All-NBA (3rd)
2006-07 NBA All-NBA (3rd)
2008-09 NBA All-NBA (3rd)
2009-10 NBA All-NBA (2nd)
2011-12 NBA All-NBA (3rd)
2012-13 NBA All-NBA (2nd)

All-Star Games
2007 NBA
2008 NBA
2010 NBA
2011 NBA
2012 NBA
2013 NBA
2014 NBA
2015 NBA


top 50 all time = chance ( needs more success )



-------------------------------------------

chris bosh - 19/9/2/1 career average

2002 McDonald's All American
2003-04 NBA All-Rookie (1st)
2006-07 NBA All-NBA (2nd)
All-Star Games
2006 NBA
2007 NBA
2008 NBA
2009 NBA
2010 NBA
2011 NBA
2012 NBA
2013 NBA
2014 NBA
2015 NBA

Championships
2012 Miami Heat (NBA)
2013 Miami Heat (NBA)


top 50 all time = CHANCE ( needs to pad more all nba teams )


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No way in hell will that happen though.

[kennethgriffin]

No way in hell will that happen though.


well if youre making a statement about his health concerns.. you might be right. but even then if that happened theyed give bosh a sympathy vote


especially if he dies


but the guy has another 8-10 years of basketball on his own team ( assuming he doesnt drop dead )

[SamuraiSWISH]

ISH is better when kennethgriffin is banned, or on hiatus. Jesus.

[Im Still Ballin]

Whatever, coach.

[SamuraiSWISH]

Whatever, coach.
:pimp:

Respect from the youngsters

[ShawkFactory]

well if youre making a statement about his health concerns.. you might be right. but even then if that happened theyed give bosh a sympathy vote


especially if he dies


but the guy has another 8-10 years of basketball on his own team ( assuming he doesnt drop dead )
No, he just isn't a good enough player to warrant that kind of consideration anymore.

[kennethgriffin]

ISH is better when kennethgriffin is banned, or on hiatus. Jesus.


i know right... when i'm not here everyone can just say whatever they want without repercussion

now you actually have to think before speaking

such a drag

:roll:

[Beastmode88]

i don't care what people say. the 2008 team could challenge the 1992 team

PRIME Kobe Bryant = arguably top 5 all time ( HOF )
PRIME Lebron James = arguably top 10 all time ( HOF )
PRIME dwyane wade = arguably top 20 all time ( HOF )
OLD jason kidd = arguably top 30 all time ( HOF )
PRIME chris paul = will be top 30 all time ( HOF )
PRIME carmelo anthony = will be top 40 all time ( HOF )
PRIME dwight howard = will be top 40 all time ( HOF )
PRIME chris bosh = will be top 50 all time ( HOF )
PRIME Deron Williams = still has a chance at HOF
PRIME Michael Redd = allstar/all nba
PRIME teyshaun prince = 4 time all defense


vs

PRIME Michael Jordan = arguably #1 all time ( HOF )
OLD FAT Magic Johnson = arguably top 5 all time ( HOF )
OLD BROKEN Larry Bird =arguably top 5 all time ( HOF )
PRIME Charles Barkley = arguably top 20 all time ( HOF )
PRIME Karl Malone = arguably top 20 all time ( HOF )
PRIME David Robinson = arguably top 25 all time ( HOF )
PRIME John Stockton = arguably top 30 all time ( HOF )
PRIME Patrick Ewing = arguably top 30 all time ( HOF )
PRIME Clyde Drexler = arguably top 40 all time ( HOF )
PRIME Chris Mullin = allstar/all nba ( HOF )
YOUNG Scottie Pippen = eventual top 30 all time ( HOF )
YOUNG Christian Laetner = eventual scrub

dwight howard would get destroyed. :roll: :roll: :roll:

[NBASTATMAN]

Wade was the best player on this team.


EASILY THE BEST PLAYER:cheers:

[kennethgriffin]

No, he just isn't a good enough player to warrant that kind of consideration anymore.


i dunno. he's very accomplished on both production and accomplishments

i mean..if we look at the top 50 all time list

these guys made it

- billy cunningham ( 2 titles, 4 allstar games, 13,000 points )
- dave bing ( 0 titles, 7 allstar games, 18,000 points )
- jerry lucas ( 1 title, 7 allstar games, 14,000 points )
- Dave DeBusschere ( 2 titles, 8 allstar games, 14,000 points )


- chris bosh ( 2 titles, 10 allstar games, 16,000 points - will be 20,000+ )


i dunno i dont think hes far off from top 50

[kennethgriffin]

EASILY THE BEST PLAYER:cheers:

kobe was the mvp of the gold medal game though. dominated the 4th quarter. had a hand in like the last 15 plays of the game

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fhpVE5Yfvhc

and even if a guy averages more for the tournament. it doesnt mean hes better. otherwise barkley > jordan in 1992

[ShawkFactory]

kobe was the mvp of the gold medal game though. dominated the 4th quarter. had a hand in like the last 15 plays of the game

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fhpVE5Yfvhc

and even if a guy averages more for the tournament. it doesnt mean hes better. otherwise barkley > jordan in 1992
Nobody brought up scoring...

Wade had the best tournament.

[kennethgriffin]

Nobody brought up scoring...

Wade had the best tournament.

maybe. i dunno i cant remember the stats

all i remember is kobe saving the US in the gold medal game


imagine if he didnt play... woulda been another failure for the states like in 2004 with tim flunkan leading the way

lebron would have added a silver to his 2 bronze medals

[ShawkFactory]

maybe. i dunno i cant remember the stats

all i remember is kobe saving the US in the gold medal game


imagine if he didnt play... woulda been another failure for the states like in 2004 with tim flunkan leading the way

lebron would have added a silver to his 2 bronze medals
That's complete conjecture. If he didn't play the game would have been different. Maybe they wouldn't have needed to have been saved if both Wade and Bron started and had more shot opportunities.

[SugarHill]

maybe. i dunno i cant remember the stats

all i remember is kobe saving the US in the gold medal game


imagine if he didnt play... woulda been another failure for the states like in 2004 with tim flunkan leading the way

lebron would have added a silver to his 2 bronze medals

Are you kidding me? That team streamrolls everyone, Kobe or otherwise :oldlol:

[Dresta]

maybe. i dunno i cant remember the stats

all i remember is kobe saving the US in the gold medal game


imagine if he didnt play... woulda been another failure for the states like in 2004 with tim flunkan leading the way

lebron would have added a silver to his 2 bronze medals
Wade had the best game in the final, comfortably.

[aj1987]

maybe. i dunno i cant remember the stats

all i remember is kobe saving the US in the gold medal game


imagine if he didnt play... woulda been another failure for the states like in 2004 with tim flunkan leading the way

lebron would have added a silver to his 2 bronze medals
:wtf:

Wade scored 27 that game and hit a CLUTCH 3 with about 2 minutes left to put the team up by 7.

[Legends66NBA7]

Doesn't seem long ago. Miss that team.

Top 3 USA Olympic team of all-time and maybe the coolest nickname. "Redeem Team", a great Finals as well. Couldn't have fit any better.

[kennethgriffin]

:wtf:

Wade scored 27 that game and hit a CLUTCH 3 with about 2 minutes left to put the team up by 7.

all very valuable to the US winning


but kobe had a hand in like the last 15-17 points the USA scored

people started freezing under pressure. spain was within a few points and kobe took over

[aj1987]

all very valuable to the US winning


but kobe had a hand in like the last 15-17 points the USA scored

people started freezing under pressure. spain was within a few points and kobe took over
He scored 9-11 points in the ENTIRE 4th. Wade was the games high scorer with 27 points and hit the 3 which basically put the game away.

[TaLvsCuaL]

The final against Spain was one of the best games I've ever seen. As Spaniard I'm proud of my countrymen, They offered a good battle.

[Imtheman]

They potentially could. The Dream Team had a huge advantage down low however. But no, Bosh, Howard, and Carmelo aren't top 40-50 all time now or when they retire.
Yes they are.

[Imtheman]

He scored 9-11 points in the ENTIRE 4th. Wade was the games high scorer with 27 points and hit the 3 which basically put the game away.
I just watched that game; Kobe put the team on his back

[34-24 Footwork]

That's complete conjecture. If he didn't play the game would have been different. Maybe they wouldn't have needed to have been saved if both Wade and Bron started and had more shot opportunities.


Revisionist theory at its very finest. Kobe was STILL internationally known as the best player in the world at that time, setting the tone in practice and guarding the best player from each country EVERY game. Sorry kiddo.

Wade was phenomenal and had the largest scoring output and seemed the most athletic.

But remember they still got their asses handed to them 4 years prior....

[JohnFreeman]

Real superstars.

[SouBeachTalents]

PRIME Kobe Bryant = arguably top 5 all time ( HOF )
PRIME Lebron James = arguably top 10 all time ( HOF )
PRIME dwyane wade = arguably top 20 all time ( HOF )
OLD jason kidd = arguably top 30 all time ( HOF )
PRIME chris paul = will be top 30 all time ( HOF )
PRIME carmelo anthony = will be top 40 all time ( HOF )
PRIME dwight howard = will be top 40 all time ( HOF )
PRIME chris bosh = will be top 50 all time ( HOF )
PRIME Deron Williams = still has a chance at HOF
PRIME Michael Redd = allstar/all nba
PRIME teyshaun prince = 4 time all defense

Obviously, these guys still have a good chunk of their careers left, but I think the projections for the bolded players are all too high, although not by much.

If CP3 never wins a title, and especially if he never makes a conference final, no way in hell is he top 30. He'll finish top 40-45 tops, pretty much in the range of Payton and Nash. If he wins a title though, then top 30 becomes a strong possibility.

I honestly agree with your Howard projection, I think he'll end up top 40, worst case top 50

Carmelo would need to really do something incredible, like either win a title or have 2-3 more seasons as an MVP candidate to crack the top 50, let alone the top 40.

And for Bosh, those 2 titles will help, but he'll really need to do better than just accumulating All-Star games, pretty much his only calling card besides his third wheel titles. He needs more than one All-NBA selection and one season as a top 10 MVP candidate to crack the top 75, let alone top 50

[sportjames23]

i don't care what people say. the 2008 team could challenge the 1992 team

PRIME Kobe Bryant = arguably top 5 all time ( HOF )
PRIME Lebron James = arguably top 10 all time ( HOF )
PRIME dwyane wade = arguably top 20 all time ( HOF )
OLD jason kidd = arguably top 30 all time ( HOF )
PRIME chris paul = will be top 30 all time ( HOF )
PRIME carmelo anthony = will be top 40 all time ( HOF )
PRIME dwight howard = will be top 40 all time ( HOF )
PRIME chris bosh = will be top 50 all time ( HOF )
PRIME Deron Williams = still has a chance at HOF
PRIME Michael Redd = allstar/all nba
PRIME teyshaun prince = 4 time all defense


vs

PRIME Michael Jordan = arguably #1 all time ( HOF )
OLD FAT Magic Johnson = arguably top 5 all time ( HOF )
OLD BROKEN Larry Bird =arguably top 5 all time ( HOF )
PRIME Charles Barkley = arguably top 20 all time ( HOF )
PRIME Karl Malone = arguably top 20 all time ( HOF )
PRIME David Robinson = arguably top 25 all time ( HOF )
PRIME John Stockton = arguably top 30 all time ( HOF )
PRIME Patrick Ewing = arguably top 30 all time ( HOF )
PRIME Clyde Drexler = arguably top 40 all time ( HOF )
PRIME Chris Mullin = allstar/all nba ( HOF )
YOUNG Scottie Pippen = eventual top 30 all time ( HOF )
YOUNG Christian Laetner = eventual scrub


2008 team could challenge all they like, they'd still lose in a best of 7 in 5 games. Dream Team is just too big for them. Barkley, Malone, Robinson and Ewing would do to them what Kobe did to that white girl in Denver. Not to mention MJ and Pip making it their personal business to drop hammers on Wade and Kobe like they did Toni Kukoc.

[aj1987]

Yes they are.
Howard might be, but Bosh and Melo aren't. Melo is not even close to being top 60.


I just watched that game; Kobe put the team on his back
What I said were facts. Not opinions.
Fact #1 - Wade led both teams in scoring and he was the leading scorer on team USA by a comfortable margin.
Fact #2 - Wade's scored a 3 when Spain pulled within 4 and put team USA up by 7 with under 2 minutes left.

Whatever helps you sleep better at night though.

[RRR3]

Howard might be, but Bosh and Melo aren't. Melo is not even close to being top 60.


What I said were facts. Not opinions.
Fact #1 - Wade led both teams in scoring and he was the leading scorer on team USA by a comfortable margin.
Fact #2 - Wade's scored a 3 when Spain pulled within 4 and put team USA up by 7 with under 2 minutes left.

Whatever helps you sleep better at night though.
Don't bother arguing with the crazed Kobe fans, bro. You'll be up all night :oldlol:
They see what they wanna see

[dubnation]

Lebron's athleticism was just insane back then holy f*ck.

[34-24 Footwork]

Don't bother arguing with the crazed Kobe fans, bro. You'll be up all night :oldlol:
They see what they wanna see

Spurs fans bold as hell after kobe is all washed up. Kicking spurs a$$es since 2000. Lol.

Stay mad

[aj1987]

Spurs fans bold as hell after kobe is all washed up. Kicking spurs a$$es since 2000. Lol.

Stay mad
:roll:

Dude used to be a LeBron stan and is now a Heat fan.

Was gonna call you an idiot, but not gonna as you have 34 in your username. :cheers:

[VengefulAngel]

Lebron's athleticism was just insane back then holy f*ck.

Some of his blocks are out of this world.

[Smoke117]

Lebron's athleticism was just insane back then holy f*ck.

...Yawn. Wade's athleticism + AMAZING SKILL shits on him at this time. The difference in talent and skill as basketball players is day and night between them. When Lebrons body goes he won't have shit, but that above average jumper and that weak ass clumsy post game.

[ShawkFactory]

Revisionist theory at its very finest. Kobe was STILL internationally known as the best player in the world at that time, setting the tone in practice and guarding the best player from each country EVERY game. Sorry kiddo.

Wade was phenomenal and had the largest scoring output and seemed the most athletic.

But remember they still got their asses handed to them 4 years prior....
What revisionist history?

I never said Kobe wasn't the best player in the world at that point. Just that Wade had the best tournament.

:confusedshrug:

4 years prior Lebron and Carmelo were 19, Wade was 21. And the team was poorly constructed. Also didn't have coach K.

[ImKobe]

What revisionist history?

I never said Kobe wasn't the best player in the world at that point. Just that Wade had the best tournament.

:confusedshrug:

4 years prior Lebron and Carmelo were 19, Wade was 21. And the team was poorly constructed. Also didn't have coach K.

Kobe's role on that team was to mentor Wade, Bran, Melo and to close games. He played his role, just like others did theirs.

I agree about Wade by the way. But Kobe got his moment, and I thought that was the best part of the tournament and the one everyone will remember

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fhpVE5Yfvhc

legend :bowdown:

not only did he make some amazing baskets, he played elite defense and shared the ball, that was amazing to watch.

[Spurs5Rings2014]

Spurs fans bold as hell after kobe is all washed up. Kicking spurs a$$es since 2000. Lol.

Stay mad

That's a Heat fan.

:facepalm

And lol @ 2 top 10 of all time vs 1 top 10 of all time and pretty much being dead even. Just shows how GOAT Duncan is.

:bowdown:

[dubnation]

...Yawn. Wade's athleticism + AMAZING SKILL shits on him at this time. The difference in talent and skill as basketball players is day and night between them. When Lebrons body goes he won't have shit, but that above average jumper and that weak ass clumsy post game.

Wade was phenomenal as well. You could argue the following season was the peak for both of them.

[ShawkFactory]

...Yawn. Wade's athleticism + AMAZING SKILL shits on him at this time. The difference in talent and skill as basketball players is day and night between them. When Lebrons body goes he won't have shit, but that above average jumper and that weak ass clumsy post game.
A bit hyperbolic don't you think?

But yes Wade was the more polished player at this time.

[HOoopCityJones]

Howard might be, but Bosh and Melo aren't. Melo is not even close to being top 60.


What I said were facts. Not opinions.
Fact #1 - Wade led both teams in scoring and he was the leading scorer on team USA by a comfortable margin.
Fact #2 - Wade's scored a 3 when Spain pulled within 4 and put team USA up by 7 with under 2 minutes left.

Whatever helps you sleep better at night though.


Too bad Wade will never hold a candle to Kobe though. Ever.

[Dragonyeuw]

really?

howard - 18/13/2blk career average

2004 McDonald's All American
2004-05 NBA All-Rookie (1st)
2006-07 NBA All-NBA (3rd)
2007-08 NBA All-Defensive (2nd)
2007-08 NBA All-NBA (1st)
2008-09 NBA All-Defensive (1st)
2008-09 NBA All-NBA (1st)
2009-10 NBA All-Defensive (1st)
2009-10 NBA All-NBA (1st)
2010-11 NBA All-Defensive (1st)
2010-11 NBA All-NBA (1st)
2011-12 NBA All-Defensive (1st)
2011-12 NBA All-NBA (1st)
2012-13 NBA All-NBA (3rd)
2013-14 NBA All-NBA (2nd)

All-Star Games
2007 NBA
2008 NBA
2009 NBA
2010 NBA
2011 NBA
2012 NBA
2013 NBA
2014 NBA

Awards
2008-09 NBA Defensive Player of the Year
2009-10 NBA Defensive Player of the Year
2010-11 NBA Defensive Player of the Year

NBA Finals 2009


top 50 all time = LOCK




Individual accomplishments achieved in what is inarguably the weakest era for centers in history. And with that said, Howard does not measure up to Robinson/Ewing either in ability or size, and hell throw 6'9 260 Malone in there as well. No chance in hell....

[SouBeachTalents]

Too bad Wade will never hold a candle to Kobe though. Ever.

And Kobe will never hold a candle to Jordan

[NBAplayoffs2001]

LeBron's athletic prime on display. Some of those blocks... holy ... :eek:

[RRR3]

:roll:

Dude used to be a LeBron stan and is now a Heat fan.

Was gonna call you an idiot, but not gonna as you have 34 in your username. :cheers:
I'm still a LeBron stan lol, I just prefer the Heat over other teams. Got used to cheering for those boys so it's hard to stop. If they trade Chalmers doe...


And yeah Diaw is only in my avatar because I find the picture hilarious. Nothing against Boris.

[aj1987]

Too bad Wade will never hold a candle to Kobe though. Ever.
You Kobe turds are insecure AF

[swagga]

Real superstars.

real talk. that team was STACKED.

[Fire Colangelo]

08 team had so much perimeter talent holy shit.

Kobe and CP3 were coming off of their best seasons, LeBron and Wade were entering their best seasons. :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

[ImKobe]

LeBron's athletic prime on display. Some of those blocks... holy ... :eek:

He used to look so damn fluid, even I was surprised when I revisited some of these videos, that reverse layup in the Gold Medal game looked perfect.

[f0und]

all very valuable to the US winning


but kobe had a hand in like the last 15-17 points the USA scored

people started freezing under pressure. spain was within a few points and kobe took over


in the first half, team usa were trailing by about 10 points. to make it worse, both bron and kobe had to sit because of foul trouble. wade enters the game and pretty much single handedly brings the team back, making plays on both end of the court. at halftime, team usa was back up by about 10.

kobe played a good 4th qtr, but i dont think it outdoes what wade did throughout the game and hitting the clutch 3.

[VengefulAngel]

He used to look so damn fluid, even I was surprised when I revisited some of these videos, that reverse layup in the Gold Medal game looked perfect.

That was my surprise when I first watched the video, you neglect those kind of things at the time.