For first time, Californians ordered to cut water

[~primetime~]

http://www.cnn.com/2015/04/01/us/california-water-restrictions-drought/index.html


"We're in a new era," Brown said. "The idea of your nice little green grass getting lots of water every day, that's going to be a thing of the past."



wow...I just picture everyone in Cali having a front lawn of dirt this summer...:/

[Patrick Chewing]

The Earth is 70% water. How is this possible?

[RightToCensor]

Can you water your lawn with ocean water?

[BigNBAfan]

this threads full of fail

[BigBoss]

Good

[Nanners]

it wont be the last time

[Im so nba'd out]

The Earth is 70% water. How is this possible?
http://static.sportressofblogitude.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/russell-westbrook.jpg

[fiddy]

The Earth is 70% water. How is this possible?
It is, especially if you live in the desert

[DeuceWallaces]

Turns out you shouldn't live in the desert.

[Patrick Chewing]

It is, especially if you live in the desert


If we can drill for oil and siphon it from one country to the next, then the same can be done with ocean water, well water, etc.

Someone above mention desalination. That's another way of solving the problem especially since California borders a massive body of water.

Here's an article I found on that idea: http://blogs.kqed.org/science/audio/why-isnt-desalination-the-answer-to-all-californias-water-problems/

[KevinNYC]

http://www.cnn.com/2015/04/01/us/california-water-restrictions-drought/index.html
wow...I just picture everyone in Cali having a front lawn of dirt this summer...:/
This decision probably should have made months ago.

Also it may be time to ban things like almond milk.

http://assets.motherjones.com/environment/2015/01/almondmaps2_960.gif

California is also the vegetable basket for the whole US. This affects the national economy

[Nanners]

desalination is incredibly expensive and energy intensive, its not really a viable solution.

[KevinNYC]

The Earth is 70% water. How is this possible?
Turns out Climate Change is real.

Last couple of years have seen a very hot Pacific Ocean which has affected the jet stream.

It's blowing warm air up to Alaska and then blowing cold air back down over the midwest and east coast.

This has affected rainfall in California. So California has had a couple of very warm, dry years.


....not just a couple of years. 4 years


four-year drought had reached near-crisis proportions after a winter that brought record-low snowfalls.

[KevinNYC]

Also if you've never seen the movie Chinatown, it would be good time to give it a shot.

[Akrazotile]

Turns out Climate Change is real.




Was it ever in doubt that the Earth has a changing climate...?

[aj1987]

Can you water your lawn with ocean water?

The Earth is 70% water. How is this possible?
You're trolling, right?

California used ~40 billion gallons of water per day. The largest desalination plant in the US produces 50 million gallons of fresh water a day. The cost of the plant is ~1 billion. Setting up enough plants to cover just half of California's daily requirements would end up costing the state anywhere between $150 billion to $250 billion. That's not including the running cost and the maintenance of the plant.

[KyrieTheFuture]

The Earth is 70% water. How is this possible?
Jesus Christ so many of your posts make sense now

[DeuceWallaces]

Should not implement major disruptions to the water cycle because a bunch of assholes want to farm or grow a lawn in the desert.

[BigBoss]

Turns out Climate Change is real.

.

No shit unless your a bible warrior.

[HitandRun Reggie]

Turns out you shouldn't live in the desert.


Looking at the diagram, it looks like California's deserts are the LEAST affected by the drought. Probably because of their sparse population and proximity to the Colorado River.

[DeuceWallaces]

Looking at the diagram, it looks like California's deserts are the LEAST affected by the drought. Probably because of their sparse population and proximity to the Colorado River.

Because they don't get water to begin with.

[knickballer]

Because they don't get water to begin with.

This.

Historically California and the whole South West was largely uninhabited before European/American exploration and probably due to climate conditions like the region being a god damn desert. The region can't simply fit the population it currently has and their current lifestyles. Natures way of saying GTFO.

Same with Las Vegas. People saying "OMG, there's a drought in Las Vegas!". No shit the city is built on top of a desert.

Water shortages are probably going to be a more common theme in the future too as humans start depleting reservoirs

[bigkingsfan]

Time to start drinking salt water.

[NumberSix]

This.

Historically California and the whole South West was largely uninhabited before European/American exploration and probably due to climate conditions like the region being a god damn desert. The region can't simply fit the population it currently has and their current lifestyles. Natures way of saying GTFO.

Same with Las Vegas. People saying "OMG, there's a drought in Las Vegas!". No shit the city is built on top of a desert.

Water shortages are probably going to be a more common theme in the future too as humans start depleting reservoirs
So, Europeans are the real natives of California?

[knickballer]

So, Europeans are the real natives of California?

I'm guessing you're trolling? But like I said the area was pretty much uninhabited besides some tribes and in the most part empty.

But I do find it kinda funny how people make the claim that it was Mexican before US annexed it. If you're gonna use that technically the land belongs to Spain as they had the land before they gave it off to mexico.

[bagelred]

"Ordered" to cut water? Really GOVERNMENT?!! This is America, ok? The government should just get out of our f-cking lives and stop controlling us. This isn't Europe.

The free market will provide water as needed. That's the way it works. FREEDOM!

[Akrazotile]

"Ordered" to cut water? Really GOVERNMENT?!! This is America, ok? The government should just get out of our f-cking lives and stop controlling us. This isn't Europe.

The free market will provide water as needed. That's the way it works. FREEDOM!



:ohwell:

[Bandito]

If we can drill for oil and siphon it from one country to the next, then the same can be done with ocean water, well water, etc.

Someone above mention desalination. That's another way of solving the problem especially since California borders a massive body of water.

Here's an article I found on that idea: http://blogs.kqed.org/science/audio/why-isnt-desalination-the-answer-to-all-californias-water-problems/Do you know how expensive desalination is? If they do that a bottle of water might cost like 50$ a bottle.

[fiddy]

Desalinated water typically costs about $2,000 an acre foot -- roughly the amount of water a family of five uses in a year. The cost is about double that of water obtained from building a new reservoir or recycling wastewater, according to a 2013 study from the state Department of Water
Not ridiculously expensive imo. A gallon of water should cost about $0.006

[Patrick Chewing]

Do you know how expensive desalination is? If they do that a bottle of water might cost like 50$ a bottle.


Yes, I know. The link I posted goes into detail on the cost. But it is an option.

[9erempiree]

Restaurants in California are no longer bringing glasses of water to its customers unless they ask for it.

[aj1987]

Not ridiculously expensive imo. A gallon of water should cost about $0.006
California used ~40 billion gallons of water per day. The largest desalination plant in the US produces 50 million gallons of fresh water a day. The cost of the plant is ~1 billion. Setting up enough plants to cover just half of California's daily requirements would end up costing the state anywhere between $150 billion to $250 billion. That's not including the running cost and the maintenance of the plant.

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=11183557&postcount=17

IF your math is correct, that comes to ~$900 a year for each family.

[bagelred]

:ohwell:

You have a problem with America, you f-cktard?

[Meticode]

Dang man, I really like almonds too.

[Smoke117]

That's why I mostly drink liquor...I'm a water conservative.

[gts]

I hope it wasn't Jerry Brown that said this is the first time Californians have been told to reduce water usage seeing how the last time we were told to reduce water in 1977 by the governor it was Jerry Brown who was in office :lol

[boozehound]

this shit is dumb. They hardly curtailed any agricultural use.

[24-Inch_Chrome]

That's why I mostly drink liquor...I'm a water conservative.

:lol

[Canelo_Griffin]

Yes, I know. The link I posted goes into detail on the cost. But it is an option.


Actually, your article makes the argument that desalination is NOT a practical or ethical option. Also, there's no way all the rich people on the coast would allow a huge desalination plant to ruin the coast aesthetics.

I wonder if this is going to have a huge impact on real estate prices. Should we start investing in Arizona real estate? I hear their drought situation isn't as bad.

[Canelo_Griffin]

this shit is dumb. They hardly curtailed any agricultural use.
A lot of farmers sold their water rights to wholesale water agencies instead of using it for irrigation so i would say that agriculture was/is definitely impacted.

[Nanners]

I wonder if this is going to have a huge impact on real estate prices. Should we start investing in Arizona real estate? I hear their drought situation isn't as bad.

coastal washington/oregon seems like a good bet

[fiddy]

I wonder if this is going to have a huge impact on real estate prices. Should we start investing in Arizona real estate? I hear their drought situation isn't as bad.
Move from one desert to another, seems like a good idea.

[Bigsmoke]

Good thing I live next to a big ass lake:lol

[Bigsmoke]

Move from one desert to another, seems like a good idea.

They should move to the Midwest where the largest freshwater storage on Earth resides. :rockon:

[AkronAngel]

Can you water your lawn with ocean water?

Of course. But it probably won't help.

[bdreason]

They've been trying to build a Desalination Plant in HB for years. It's supposed to be the largest in the Western Hemisphere. The issue is that it costs about twice as much to produce the water as it does to import it from Northern California.

[9erempiree]

They should build it. Southern California have been stealing water from Nor Cal forever now. I rather just save the water for the agriculture being produced in our state.

[Bigsmoke]

They've been trying to build a Desalination Plant in HB for years. It's supposed to be the largest in the Western Hemisphere. The issue is that it costs about twice as much to produce the water as it does to import it from Northern California.


Why Californians wait at the last minute?

They just started having water restrictions

[bdreason]

Why Californians wait at the last minute?

They just started having water restrictions



It's all about the money. They're not going to build a plant unless they have contracts with water agencies to buy the water. And what motivation do the water agencies have to buy water for twice the price they can import it?


I think it will be built eventually.

[Canelo_Griffin]

Move from one desert to another, seems like a good idea.

Ever heard of groundwater?

But I do agree that the Pacific Northwest would be a safer bet.