Bleacher Report 100 Greatest Players of all Time

[rmt]

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2232060-br-nba-legends-100-ranking-the-greatest-players-of-all-time/page/99

Marion above Manu stands out

[inclinerator]

seems about right id have kobe at 15 tho





















































lol

[Alamо]

Damn. Your link sent me straight to number 5. You should change the link

[24-Inch_Chrome]

http://www.reactiongifs.com/r/2013/06/Jay-Z-so-so.gif

Shaq/Hakeem too low, West too high. I do agree on a general note on the players included in the top-15, my order wouldn't be the exact same though.

[TheMan]

Can someone post the list? My PS3 web browser can' t load the page :(

[Alamо]

Hard to argue with most of that list but Jerry West is too high

[Rake2204]

Yikes, a 104-page slideshow?

[rmt]

Damn. Your link sent me straight to number 5. You should change the link

I can change it to number 1, but I'm not gonna scroll through 95 slides again. Most people only interested in the top anyways.

[24-Inch_Chrome]

Can someone post the list? My PS3 web browser can' t load the page :(

1. Michael Jordan
2. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
3. Bill Russell
4. Wilt Chamberlain
5. Tim Duncan
6. Magic Johnson
7. LeBron James
8. Jerry West
9. Larry Bird
10. Shaquille O'Neal
11. Kobe Bryant
12. Oscar Robertson
13. David Robinson
14. Hakeem Olajuwon
15. Kevin Garnett
16. Karl Malone
17. Moses Malone
18. Charles Barkley
19. Dirk Nowitzki
20. John Havlicek
21. Bob Pettit
22. Elgin Baylor
23. John Stockton
24. Julius Irving
25. Scottie Pippen
26. Dwyane Wade
27. Clyde Drexler
28. Walt Frazier
29. Bob Cousy
30. Isiah Thomas
31. Gary Payton
32. Dolph Schayes
33. Patrick Ewing
34. Allen Iverson
35. Jason Kidd
36. Paul Pierce
37. Kevin McHale
38. Steve Nash
39. George Gervin
40. Sam Jones
41. Elvin Hayes
42. Kevin Durant
43. Dominique Wilkins
44. Ray Allen
45. Reggie Miller
46. Chris Paul
47. Wes Unfeld
48. Adrian Dantley
49. Paul Arizin
50. Dwight Howard
51. Rick Barry
52. James Worthy
53. Artis Gilmore
54. Dennis Rodman
55. Jerry Lucas
56. Sidney Moncrief
57. Bob Lanier
58. Robert Parish
59. Dave Cowens
60. Tony Parker
61. Tom Heinsohn
62. Tracy McGrady
63. Pau Gasol
64. Dikembe Mutombo
65. Kevin Johnson
66. Chauncey Billups
67. Vince Carter
68. Carmelo Anthony
69. Alex English
70. Tiny Archibald
71. Shawn Marion
72. Grant Hill
73. Dennis Johnson
74. George Mikan
75. Manu Ginobli
76. Hal Greer
77. Bill Sharman
78. Joe Dumars
79. Cliff Hagan
80. Maurice Cheeks
81. Ben Wallace
82. Bobby Jones
83. Chris Mullin
84. Bernard King
85. Neil Johnston
86. Chris Bosh
87. Bill Walton
88. Dave DeBusschere
89. Larry Nance
90. Paul Westphal
91. Jack Twyman
92. David Thompson
93. Chris Webber
94. Detlef Schrempf
95. Mitch Richmond
96. Billy Cunnignham
97. Lenny Wilkens
98. Walt Bellamy
99. Tim Hardaway
100. Mark Price

[christian1923]

Chris Bosh over Chris Webber?!?!??!:wtf:

Paul peirce over Tmac? I don't like it

[TheMan]

1. Michael Jordan
2. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
3. Bill Russell
4. Wilt Chamberlain
5. Tim Duncan
6. Magic Johnson
7. LeBron James
8. Jerry West
9. Larry Bird
10. Shaquille O'Neal
11. Kobe Bryant
12. Oscar Robertson
13. David Robinson
14. Hakeem Olajuwon
15. Kevin Garnett
16. Karl Malone
17. Moses Malone
18. Charles Barkley
19. Dirk Nowitzki
20. John Havlicek
21. Bob Pettit
22. Elgin Baylor
23. John Stockton
24. Julius Irving
25. Scottie Pippen
26. Dwyane Wade
27. Clyde Drexler
28. Walt Frazier
29. Bob Cousy
30. Isiah Thomas
31. Gary Payton
32. Dolph Schayes
33. Patrick Ewing
34. Allen Iverson
35. Jason Kidd
36. Paul Pierce
37. Kevin McHale
38. Steve Nash
39. George Gervin
40. Sam Jones
41. Elvin Hayes
42. Kevin Durant
43. Dominique Wilkins
44. Ray Allen
45. Reggie Miller
46. Chris Paul
47. Wes Unfeld
48. Adrian Dantley
49. Paul Arizin
50. Dwight Howard
51. Rick Barry
52. James Worthy
53. Artis Gilmore
54. Dennis Rodman
55. Jerry Lucas
56. Sidney Moncrief
57. Bob Lanier
58. Robert Parish
59. Dave Cowens
60. Tony Parker
61. Tom Heinsohn
62. Tracy McGrady
63. Pau Gasol
64. Dikembe Mutombo
65. Kevin Johnson
66. Chauncey Billups
67. Vince Carter
68. Carmelo Anthony
69. Alex English
70. Tiny Archibald
71. Shawn Marion
72. Grant Hill
73. Dennis Johnson
74. George Mikan
75. Manu Ginobli
76. Hal Greer
77. Bill Sharman
78. Joe Dumars
79. Cliff Hagan
80. Maurice Cheeks
81. Ben Wallace
82. Bobby Jones
83. Chris Mullin
84. Bernard King
85. Neil Johnston
86. Chris Bosh
87. Bill Walton
88. Dave DeBusschere
89. Larry Nance
90. Paul Westphal
91. Jack Twyman
92. David Thompson
93. Chris Webber
94. Detlef Schrempf
95. Mitch Richmond
96. Billy Cunnignham
97. Lenny Wilkens
98. Walt Bellamy
99. Tim Hardaway
100. Mark Price
Thank you, repped:cheers:

[L.Kizzle]

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2232060-br-nba-legends-100-ranking-the-greatest-players-of-all-time/page/99

Marion above Manu stands out
Both shouldn't be on the list, that's the stand out.

[rmt]

No Bob McAdoo

[L.Kizzle]

Just going though it now and a couple of stand out ...


-David Robinson one spot over Hakeem. I guess that 95 series doesn't count?
-Never seen Doc J this low on any list before, the hell?
-PAUL PIERCE, wtf!! 36.
-RAY ALLEN, wtf!! 44.
-ADRIAN DANTLEY, wtf!! 48.
-RICK BARRY, wtf!! 51.
-SHAWN MARION, wtf!! 71.
-GEORGE MIKAN, wtf!! 74.
-MANU GINOBILI, wtf!! 75.

List gets worse and worse as you go through.

Just a few names of players who missed the cut.

MVPs like Willis Reed and Bob McAdoo didn't make it over guys like Walt Bellamy. Reed and McAdoo were of the same era as Bellamy, and probably dominated him in head to head competition.

Pistol Pete or Earl Monroe not here, but Detlef Schrempf and Larry Nance are.

This might be one of the worse list I have ever seen.

[ProfessorMurder]

What a bunch of assholes expecting you to click through that many times. They can eat a mega dong.

[CJ Mustard]

List started out okay, but my god did it get terrible the further along you went. :oldlol: Reggie Miller 50 spots ahead of Mitch Richmond.

[L.Kizzle]

List started out okay, but my god did it get terrible the further along you went. :oldlol: Reggie Miller 50 spots ahead of Mitch Richmond.
That's not even the biggest WTF moment.
Rick Barry at 51.
No Willis Reed are among the top.

[TheMan]

Dwight Howard at 50 over James Worthy, Dennis Rodman and a few others :lol

What exactly has he accomplished to be a top 50 GOAT???:facepalm

[SouBeachTalents]

The biggest travesties on this list

1. Barry at 51
2. Reed off the list completely
3. West over Kobe, Shaq and Bird
4. Robinson over Hakeem
5. Dr. J at 24

[SaltyMeatballs]

Horrible list.

[DMAVS41]

Not terrible like some are saying, but damn...Robinson really does tend to get over-rated on some all time lists.

[24-Inch_Chrome]

Awful list. For one, Kobe is arguably top 5.. unquestionably top 10. Yet they have West (which he passed ages ago) over him. lol

Cringe worthy list. I've seen better lists from forum trolls.

Nope.

[DMAVS41]

Awful list. For one, Kobe is arguably top 5.. unquestionably top 10. Yet they have West (which he passed ages ago) over him. lol

Cringe worthy list. I've seen better lists from forum trolls.

Not at all arguable for top 5...just no.

Likely top 10? Sure, but not a lock. He's fringe top 10 now that Lebron has the 5 finals and 2 titles, 2 finals mvps and 4 mvps.

Lebrun's resume now pretty much equals Kobe's and Lebron is clearly the better player peak vs peak and prime vs prime.

So...no.

MJ
Russell
Magic
Duncan
Kareem
Wilt
Bird
Shaq
Hakeem
Lebron

That is my top 10 in roughly that order...and it's absolutely legit to not have Kobe there at this point. Sorry...

[24-Inch_Chrome]

Solid argument. dumb ******. :lol

How is he an arguable top-5? There's not a single player in BR's top-5 that Kobe deserves to be higher than.

Hakeem should have slotted in at 9/10, Shaq should have moved up to 7, LeBron should be behind Bird (at least for now). Kobe is far from an unquestionable top-10, he's fine at 11.

[Fudge]

Disgusting. Durant is at the very least a top 35 player of all-time.

Kobe outside of the top 10? :lol
LeBron at 7? :oldlol:
Shaq at 10? :roll:
Robinson at 13? :roll: :roll:

Absolutely disrespectful.

[Chadwin]

"Cutting to the chase, Robinson was simply better than Olajuwon ever was, even if the No. 14 player in this countdown was more unique and had a more recognizable move

[ImKobe]

Jerry West above the likes of Bird, Shaq, Kobe, Hakeem

D-Rob above Hakeem :kobe:

whoever made that list should be ashamed.

[HOoopCityJones]

West over Bird, Kobe and Shaq? Lebron at 7? This list is every LBJ stan and Kobe haters wet dream.


I don't care what any of you say, the gap between Duncan-Kobe-Shaq isn't that wide. They ****ing dominated him throught his career, Kobe without Shaq even.

[ImKobe]

[QUOTE=Chadwin]"Cutting to the chase, Robinson was simply better than Olajuwon ever was, even if the No. 14 player in this countdown was more unique and had a more recognizable move

[L.Kizzle]

not to mention the fact that he SONNED D-Rob in the '95 WCF after David Robinson won MVP. There is no freaking way Hakeem should EVER be ranked below that guy.
The only time Robinson should ever be listed in front of Hakeem is when they're ranking the greatest Spur of All-Time, and even that's debatable.

[HOoopCityJones]

Not at all arguable for top 5...just no.

Likely top 10? Sure, but not a lock. He's fringe top 10 now that Lebron has the 5 finals and 2 titles, 2 finals mvps and 4 mvps.

Lebrun's resume now pretty much equals Kobe's and Lebron is clearly the better player peak vs peak and prime vs prime.

So...no.

MJ
Russell
Magic
Duncan
Kareem
Wilt
Bird
Shaq
Hakeem
Lebron

That is my top 10 in roughly that order...and it's absolutely legit to not have Kobe there at this point. Sorry...


You sound stupid man. :facepalm

[DMAVS41]

You sound stupid man. :facepalm

Which part are you refuting?

The resume or the fact that Lebron is clearly a better player than Bryant?

[Beastmode88]

Stopped reading after i saw lebron at 7.

[HOoopCityJones]

Which part are you refuting?

The resume or the fact that Lebron is clearly a better player than Bryant?

Bro, I know you have a hard on for downplaying Kobe at every juncture , but Lebron doesn't even have a better playoff resume than KB yet. Let alone a better prime.

You LBJ throaters are ridiculous , I swear. Half of the shit you're probably docking Kobe for, you're letting slide with Bird,Duncan, Magic, Kareem and Lebron. Who all won with multiple all stars/ hall of famers at a time.

[SouBeachTalents]

Bro, I know you have a hard on for downplaying Kobe at every juncture , but Lebron doesn't even have a better playoff resume than KB yet. Let alone a better prime.

You LBJ throaters are ridiculous , I swear. Half of the shit you're probably docking Kobe for, you're letting slide with Bird,Duncan, Magic, Kareem and Lebron. Who all won with multiple all stars/ hall of famers at a time.

LeBron: 28/8/6 on 48%, 2 Finals MVP's
Kobe: 28/5/5 on 45%, 2 Finals MVP's

[DMAVS41]

Bro, I know you have a hard on for downplaying Kobe at every juncture , but Lebron doesn't even have a better playoff resume than KB yet. Let alone a better prime.

You LBJ throaters are ridiculous , I swear. Half of the shit you're probably dock Kobe for, you're letting slide with Bird, Magic, Lebron and Kareem. Who all won with multiple all stars/ hall of famers at a time.

I said resume overall pretty much equals Kobe's...


And it does.

5 finals, 2 titles, 2 finals mvp's, and 4 mvp's....

That simply is on par (better in my opinion)

7 finals, 5 titles, 2 finals mvp's, and 1 mvp

You really refute that?

Throw in the all nba and all defense if you like as well...it's very close

[Rake2204]

"Cutting to the chase, Robinson was simply better than Olajuwon ever was, even if the No. 14 player in this countdown was more unique and had a more recognizable move—the patented Dream Shake."

:biggums:

93-94 Hakeem is arguably the GOAT season of all time

MVP, DPOY, FMVP and winning a title carrying a team with no other all-stars/all-NBA playersHakeem Olajuwon deserves mega credit for being the primary reason the Rockets ever won anything. However, he did get some great performances from his teammates over the course of those runs. And to be sure, those performances could have been a result of Hakeem's abilities (opening up shooters via double teams, for instance). But all five starters averaging double figures, with Kenny Smith threatening to hit 50% of his triple tries over the course of the playoffs isn't too shabby.

Meanwhile, David Robinson led the league in scoring in 1994 (29.8 points per game) while also leading his team in every other statistical category outside of rebounds, which he also would have led under normal circumstances (i.e. on any non-Rodman team).

Unfortunately for Robinson and the city of San Antonio, he did not find himself surrounded by teammates ready to step up once the 1994 postseason hit. Only two players (he and Dale Ellis) scored more than 9.3 points per game and Ellis, a sharpshooter, did so while hitting just 29% from the arc in a first-round loss to the Jazz.

The reason for San Antonio's struggles against Utah are a little mysterious to me, since I haven't seen the series since I was in elementary school. The statistics seem to suggest the possibility of Utah likely double and triple teaming Robinson, forcing other Spurs to beat them. When that didn't work, perhaps Robinson forced and struggled. Tough to know for sure.

In contrast, when Houston ran into Utah in that year's conference finals, I still believe it could be interpreted as a heavy benefit to Hakeem's ability to dominate when he had teammates like Kenny Smith, who hit 53% of his triples in the series. If Utah wanted to force the ball out of Hakeem's hands, Kenny, Robert, and Vernon were ready.

All that said, I'm not ready to say I agree with the Bleacher Report ranking, haha. I just thought there was a lot more to Houston's run than just Hakeem dominating - just as I felt there was more to San Antonio's fall in '94 than Robinson failing.

[ImKobe]

Which part are you refuting?

The resume or the fact that Lebron is clearly a better player than Bryant?

His resume doesn't really point to that. Neither does the eye test.

[HOoopCityJones]

So Kobe's first three title runs are absolved because bron only has two? Lmao, you guys don't even realize the cheap ass requirements you guys resort to when it comes to discussing Kobe.

If the criteria for rings is not playing with another Top 50 all time player , LBJ and half the Top 10 is already disqualified , sorry.

[dubeta]

His resume doesn't really point to that. Neither does the eye test.


The eye test tells me Kobe misses shots more frequently than LeBron, plus more than any other player who ever played.

[kennethgriffin]

Dont really understand the criteria

They have west over kobe... but duncans top 5

So is it about accomplishments or stats. I dont get it

They have russell 3rd but lebron ahead of magic.. another stats/accomplishments contradiction

[dubeta]

So Kobe's first three title runs are absolved because bron only has two? Lmao, you guys don't even realize the cheap ass requirements you guys resort to when it comes to discussing Kobe.

If the criteria for rings is not playing with another Top 50 all time player , LBJ and half the Top 10 is already disqualified , sorry.

You can count Kobe's first 3 rings if you want to compare him to Robert Horry of Derek Fisher, feel free.

If you want to compare him to the greats, only alpha dog rings count, and even then Kobe wasnt even the clear cut best in 2009,2010, so its hard to even say if Kobe is really an all-time great or not.

[HOoopCityJones]

Dont really understand the criteria

They have west over kobe... but duncans top 5

So is it about accomplishments or stats. I dont get it

It's purely agenda driven list. Nothing more.

[ImKobe]

The eye test tells me Kobe misses shots more frequently than LeBron, plus more than any other player who ever played.

Lebron for his career misses 10 FGA + 2.2 FTA a game - 12.2 shots
Kobe for his career misses 10.8 FGA + 1.2 FTA a game - 12 shots

Lebron misses more shots per game on average, and his averages are going to fall when he declines.

[Frozen1]

LOL @ kobe being out of top 5 and behind lebron. Pathetic.

[DMAVS41]

His resume doesn't really point to that. Neither does the eye test.

Well I disagree! LOL...

My eye test tells me Lebron is the superior player.

So we are done? Or should we look at virtually objective measures from raw stats, to ratings, to advanced measures, to defensive measures...etc?

I mean...not much that tells you Kobe was better.

Not to mention Lebron has been far more durable as a player as well.

[ZMonkey11]

Isiah at 30...this is a shameful list.:facepalm

[dubeta]

http://www.quickmeme.com/img/cd/cdb310ad67072458a3390322c315849d700d58692c606c2905 f09b8c167cfdb1.jpg

Kobe fans should be happy Kobe is atleast rated 11th on this list, im a kobe fan and I sure as hell am glad, because you could easily argue him as 18th

[ImKobe]

Well I disagree! LOL...

My eye test tells me Lebron is the superior player.

So we are done? Or should we look at virtually objective measures from raw stats, to ratings, to advanced measures, to defensive measures...etc?

I mean...not much that tells you Kobe was better.

Not to mention Lebron has been far more durable as a player as well.

Kobe's resume is better :confusedshrug:, and he wins 71% of his Finals series compared to 40% for Lebron. I'm going with the guy that put a city on his back, never left, and delivered more times in the Playoffs.

[HOoopCityJones]

http://www.quickmeme.com/img/cd/cdb310ad67072458a3390322c315849d700d58692c606c2905 f09b8c167cfdb1.jpg

Kobe fans should be happy Kobe is atleast rated 11th on this list, im a kobe fan and I sure as hell am glad, because you could easily argue him as 18th

Kobe beat 10 50+ win teams in the playoffs from 2008-2010 alone. Lebron has beaten 7 50+ win teams in the playoffs in his WHOLE CAREER.

[Chadwin]

Hakeem Olajuwon deserves mega credit for being the primary reason the Rockets ever won anything. However, he did get some great performances from his teammates over the course of those runs. And to be sure, those performances could have been a result of Hakeem's abilities (opening up shooters via double teams, for instance). But all five starters averaging double figures, with Kenny Smith threatening to hit 50% of his triple tries over the course of the playoffs isn't too shabby.

Meanwhile, David Robinson led the league in scoring in 1994 (29.8 points per game) while also leading his team in every other statistical category outside of rebounds, which he also would have led under normal circumstances (i.e. on any non-Rodman team).

Unfortunately for Robinson and the city of San Antonio, he did not find himself surrounded by teammates ready to step up once the 1994 postseason hit. Only two players (he and Dale Ellis) scored more than 9.3 points per game and Ellis, a sharpshooter, did so while hitting just 29% from the arc in a first-round loss to the Jazz.

The reason for San Antonio's struggles against Utah are a little mysterious to me, since I haven't seen the series since I was in elementary school. The statistics seem to suggest the possibility of Utah likely double and triple teaming Robinson, forcing other Spurs to beat them. When that didn't work, perhaps Robinson forced and struggled. Tough to know for sure.

In contrast, when Houston ran into Utah in that year's conference finals, I still believe it could be interpreted as a heavy benefit to Hakeem's ability to dominate when he had teammates like Kenny Smith, who hit 53% of his triples in the series. If Utah wanted to force the ball out of Hakeem's hands, Kenny, Robert, and Vernon were ready.

All that said, I'm not ready to say I agree with the Bleacher Report ranking, haha. I just thought there was a lot more to Houston's run than just Hakeem dominating - just as I felt there was more to San Antonio's fall in '94 than Robinson failing.

good post

But looking back, going into that playoff run, Smith was really the only elite three point shooter among the starters.

Maxwell was at .298, Horry was at .324, and Thorpe didn't shoot threes.

[dubeta]

Kobe beat 10 50+ win teams in the playoffs from 2008-2010 alone. Lebron has beaten 7 50+ win teams in the playoffs in his WHOLE CAREER.

Did Kobe, or did Gasol/Shaq win them? How many 50+ wins without Gasol and Shaq? LeBron has 1 with the 2007 Cavs carrying shit on his roster.

[DMAVS41]

Kobe's resume is better :confusedshrug:, and he wins 71% of his Finals series compared to 40% for Lebron. I'm going with the guy that put a city on his back, never left, and delivered more times in the Playoffs.

I really don't think that is a fair argument considering Kobe winning only 3 times with peak Shaq is about the low end of what I'd expect years 1 through 8 Lebron to do considering he was so much better than Kobe early on their respective careers.

I really only care what happens on the court unless it's something that happens off the court that impacts the play on the court.

LeBron leaving doesn't make him less of a player. He just left because his franchise the drafted him was a joke.

Now, being accused of rape in the midst of a title run...that might be a different story.

[HOoopCityJones]

I really don't think that is a fair argument considering Kobe winning only 3 times with peak Shaq is about the low end of what I'd expect years 1 through 8 Lebron to do considering he was so much better than Kobe early on their respective careers.

I really only care what happens on the court unless it's something that happens off the court that impacts the play on the court.

LeBron leaving doesn't make him less of a player. He just left because his franchise the drafted him was a joke.

Now, being accused of rape in the midst of a title run...that might be a different story.

And Lebron winning only twice despite going four straight times in a depleted conference is even worse. :roll:

Say what you want but there were heavy hitters in his conference during every one of Kobe's winning seasons, and up and comers. LBJ was dominating his conference and made the Finals as early as 07 there weren't any proper threats til 08 and he still didn't make it back til 2011. Stop it bro, if you're gonna put in all these bogus requirements for Kobe add them for ya boy too.

[ImKobe]

I really don't think that is a fair argument considering Kobe winning only 3 times with peak Shaq is about the low end of what I'd expect years 1 through 8 Lebron to do considering he was so much better than Kobe early on their respective careers.

I really only care what happens on the court unless it's something that happens off the court that impacts the play on the court.

LeBron leaving doesn't make him less of a player. He just left because his franchise the drafted him was a joke.

Now, being accused of rape in the midst of a title run...that might be a different story.

How does that have anything to do with a basketball discussion?

Low end? Kobe was 17 when he was drafted to the Lakers and when Shaq signed there, they played 5 seasons together with Kobe as a starter, they went to 4 Finals and won 3 in a row. Shaq was out of his prime by 04 and Kobe was injured/his personal life made it hard to focus on basketball.

Lebron wins in the statistical category, Kobe wins in accolades.

[Rose'sACL]

And Lebron winning only twice despite going fuor straight times in a depleted conference is even worse. :roll:

Say what you want but there were heavy hitters in his conference during every one of Kobe's winning seasons, and up and comers. LBJ was dominating his conference and made the Finals as early as 07 there weren't any proper threats til 08 and he still didn't make it back til 2011. Stop it bro, if you're gonna put in all these bogus requirements for Kobe add them for ya boy too.
why do you hate Magic? i thought you were a lakers fan.

[Keno]

the top 15 list is perfect, after that it's just whatever.

[SouBeachTalents]

the top 15 list is perfect, after that it's just whatever.

:oldlol: at Robinson over Hakeem and West over Bird, Shaq and Kobe being "perfect"

[ImKobe]

And Lebron winning only twice despite going fuor straight times in a depleted conference is even worse. :roll:

Say what you want but there were heavy hitters in his conference during every one of Kobe's winning seasons, and up and comers. LBJ was dominating his conference and made the Finals as early as 07 there weren't any proper threats til 08 and he still didn't make it back til 2011. Stop it bro, if you're gonna put in all these bogus requirements for Kobe add them for ya boy too.

THIS.

Kobe 00-02 faced the real teams en route to the Finals, and he put in the work and has more than enough examples to back up his greatness.

Prime Lebron averaged what, 25 ppg on medicore shooting against 2013 Spurs? Kobe against prime Duncan with D-Rob there to protect the rim averaged 33/7/7 in 01, not to mention that he did that under the old defensive rules, where handchecking was legal and spacing sucked. Lebron averaged 25 ppg while defenders dared him to shoot wide open jump shots.

[dubeta]

THIS.

Kobe 00-02 faced the real teams en route to the Finals, and he put in the work and has more than enough examples to back up his greatness.

Prime Lebron averaged what, 25 ppg on medicore shooting against 2013 Spurs? Kobe against prime Duncan with D-Rob there to protect the rim averaged 33/7/7 in 01, not to mention that he did that under the old defensive rules, where handchecking was legal and spacing sucked. Lebron averaged 25 ppg while defenders dared him to shoot wide open jump shots.

LOL 25/11/7 on 45% is better than anything Kobe's done

18 combined rebounds and assists a game >>

Plus a game 7 performance that Kobe could only dream of.

[ATL_Bball_King]

Its crazy how people really forget how mentally weak Lebron was a few years ago...Before he went to Miami, he use to have a mental break down in so many playoff series...His first finals lost was absolutely due to the fact he was mentally weak...You can have stats all you want, but i remember watching this guy hide from the ball in fourth quarters, pass up many game winning shots, a become a shell of his self at times.

Im sorry but i have never seen Kobe shy away from any moments, he always wanted the last shot, miss it or make it...

Lebron had to learn to become a champion by the helps of Wade and Pat, Kobe always had a champions mentality

Lebron is a great player, but I will never forget how mentality f*** he was before he won his first championship

[ImKobe]

LOL 25/11/7 on 45% is better than anything Kobe's done

18 combined rebounds and assists a game >>

Plus a game 7 performance that Kobe could only dream of.

He was dared to hit wide open jump shots, and he shot under 44% 5 out of 7 times in the series, including two sub-40 shooting games.

Kobe against the Spurs in 2001: 33/7/7 on 51% shooting, 38% from 3
Kobe against the Spurs in 2008: 29/6/4 on 53% shooting

Lebron is 1-3 against the Spurs, Kobe's 4-2. Kobe never went 1-3 with 2 turnovers in the last minute of a Finals game with the other team being up 3 - 2 :rolleyes:

If Game 6 came down to Lebron to close the deal, Spurs are champs. Fortunately for him, his teammates rebounded two of his bricked 3's.

[dubeta]

He was dared to hit wide open jump shots, and he shot under 44% 5 out of 7 times in the series, including two sub-40 shooting games.

Kobe against the Spurs in 2001: 33/7/7 on 51% shooting, 38% from 3
Kobe against the Spurs in 2008: 29/6/4 on 53% shooting

Lebron is 1-3 against the Spurs, Kobe's 4-2. Kobe never went 1-3 with 2 turnovers in the last minute of a Finals game with the other team being up 3 - 2 :rolleyes:

If Game 6 came down to Lebron to close the deal, Spurs are champs. Fortunately for him, his teammates rebounded two of his bricked 3's.

Those Spurs teams of the old were far inferior than the current one.

Think about it, Duncan was like the best player on those teams, but now he's the 3rd or 4th best player on this Spurs, that tells you the difference.


And why dont you look at LeBrons 2014 series vs the Spurs?

28/8/4 on 58% FG and 51% from the 3 for a total TS of 68%


So we just found out LeBron had 2 series against the Spurs better than anything Kobe has ever done?

And LeBron is 1-2 against the spurs with both losses coming with a garbage squad.

Keep taking L's boy

[dubeta]

I think its time we stop trying to compare Kobe to Jordan/Lebron, it will just hurt Kobe fans in the long run

Kobe is a great talent, amazing player, one of the 15-17 greatest to ever play, but he just was never that impactful


Shaq leaves:

Kobe misses the playoffs, and loses in the 1st round 2 straight years.


They get Dwight Howard:

Kobe cant even get better than the 7th seed


Gasol leaves:

Kobe misses the playoffs the next year, and stays in the lottery for the rest of his career.



Can you imagine this happening to Jordan/LeBron? Never in a million years :oldlol:

The writing is on the wall, Kobe has fancy scoring moves but in the grand scheme does not really do much to help you win. So marvel at his YouTube highlights, but stop living in this fantasy were Kobe was a great player, cause he wasnt.

[ImKobe]

Those Spurs teams of the old were far inferior than the current one.

Think about it, Duncan was like the best player on those teams, but now he's the 3rd or 4th best player on this Spurs, that tells you the difference.


And why dont you look at LeBrons 2014 series vs the Spurs?

28/8/4 on 58% FG and 51% from the 3 for a total TS of 68%


So we just found out LeBron had 2 series against the Spurs better than anything Kobe has ever done?

And LeBron is 1-2 against the spurs with both losses coming with a garbage squad.

Keep taking L's boy

Duncan was the best player on the Spurs in the 2013 Finals, especially in Games 6 & 7.

Why would I post Lebron's numbers from a series, where the other team was effortlessly outscoring his team? The whole series outside of Games 1 & 2 was garbage time. He averaged what, 4 points a game in the 4th and shot below 44% and averaged less than 1 point per shot, when the games were close? And got dominated by Kawhi Leonard, who won the FMVP?

Please.

[T_L_P]

Tragic list.

Hakeem at 14 is a joke. I think certain aspects of his game are overrated -- he was a bad gambler on defense for years, a black hole at times, and he wasn't a great creator -- but he is arguably the greatest two-way player ever. His 94 postseason ranks among the biggest carry-jobs of all time.

Parker on this at all is a joke, but he's also above Manu. :oldlol:

Manu was literally better than Parker for every year of their careers with the exception of 2013.

[ArbitraryWater]

Bosh is top 100? lol..

Pierce is WAY too high lol... Same for Allen, Marion. Dirk too low, Hakeem too low (lol), Kobe was well placed wow :applause:

Gutsy move by BR.. await the attack of the Kobetards

Pretty damn good list overall..

[ArbitraryWater]

I can change it to number 1, but I'm not gonna scroll through 95 slides again. Most people only interested in the top anyways.

:biggums: :biggums:

Just change the damn link lol... erase the page number and there y'all go.

[Hey Yo]

What a bunch of assholes expecting you to click through that many times. They can eat a mega dong.
That's what you get from a garbage site like B/R

[Hey Yo]

Its crazy how people really forget how mentally weak Lebron was a few years ago...Before he went to Miami, he use to have a mental break down in so many playoff series...His first finals lost was absolutely due to the fact he was mentally weak...You can have stats all you want, but i remember watching this guy hide from the ball in fourth quarters, pass up many game winning shots, a become a shell of his self at times.

Im sorry but i have never seen Kobe shy away from any moments, he always wanted the last shot, miss it or make it...

Lebron had to learn to become a champion by the helps of Wade and Pat, Kobe always had a champions mentality

Lebron is a great player, but I will never forget how mentality f*** he was before he won his first championship
If both of those were true, then Kobe would have let New Jersey draft him instead of demanding to play for the historical franchise that is the Lakers.

[ImKobe]

If both of those were true, then Kobe would have let New Jersey draft him instead of demanding to play for the historical franchise that is the Lakers.

You're making it sound like Kobe had that much power to choose the team he would be drafted to...he was 17 years old. Lakers had interest in him and were willing to give up Divac just to get the pick.

[AirFederer]

Wilt and Kobe both belong...outside the top 10. Strictly imho. Both great players. Kobe had the killer mentality but didn't always use it correctly imho. Wilt too consumed by individual stats. Still all time greats.

I have Bron before Hakeem, but it's hard to see him higher atm.

[SouBeachTalents]

Bosh is top 100? lol..

Pierce is WAY too high lol... Same for Allen, Marion. Dirk too low, Hakeem too low (lol), Kobe was well placed wow :applause:

Gutsy move by BR.. await the attack of the Kobetards

Pretty damn good list overall..

Lol, I probably find Bosh to be more overrated than anybody else on this site, but you don't think he's a top 100 player of all time? Or at least won't end up there?

[Hey Yo]

You're making it sound like Kobe had that much power to choose the team he would be drafted to...he was 17 years old. Lakers had interest in him and were willing to give up Divac just to get the pick.
He could have easily said "I'll play for whoever drafts me, no threats of not signing and to play in Italy if I'm not in a Lakers uniform"

[Megabox!]

Its crazy how people really forget how mentally weak Lebron was a few years ago...Before he went to Miami, he use to have a mental break down in so many playoff series...His first finals lost was absolutely due to the fact he was mentally weak...You can have stats all you want, but i remember watching this guy hide from the ball in fourth quarters, pass up many game winning shots, a become a shell of his self at times.

Im sorry but i have never seen Kobe shy away from any moments, he always wanted the last shot, miss it or make it...

Lebron had to learn to become a champion by the helps of Wade and Pat, Kobe always had a champions mentality

Lebron is a great player, but I will never forget how mentality f*** he was before he won his first championship
Lol wut. The only mental breakdown he had was in the 2011 finals. Before he went to Miami he lost to the Spurs in the finals as a 22 year old, in 08' he lost to the Big 3 Celtics in a close game 7 in the Garden, the following year he nearly averages 40 ppg in the ECF and they lose in 6. By 2010 he had enough and gave up against the celtics big 3. And wanting to take the last shot doesn't make a player better or more clutch, Lebron makes the right play at the end of games while Kobe takes the final more "ballsy" shot. Imo LBJ > Kobe but not by much

[Magic 32]

Lol wut. The only mental breakdown he had was in the 2011 finals.....


...By 2010 he had enough and gave up against the celtics big 3.

http://i1185.photobucket.com/albums/z341/pcongiusta/indy10.gif

[Im Still Ballin]

Solid list

I'd bring Kobe Shaq and Hakeem up to the top 10

1. MJ
1. Kareem
3. Magic
4. Russell
5. Wilt
6. Duncan
7. Lebron
8. Shaq
9. Bird
10. Kobe
11. Hakeem
12. Robinson

[Magic 32]

1. MJ
2. Russell

3. Wilt
4. Kareem
5. Magic
6. Bird

7. Kobe
8. Duncan
9. Shaq

10 Hakeem
11. Lebron

12. Oscar
13. West

[Im Still Ballin]

1. MJ
2. Russell

3. Wilt
4. Kareem
5. Magic
6. Bird

7. Kobe
8. Duncan
9. Shaq

10 Hakeem
11. Lebron

12. Oscar
13. West
:facepalm

[Mr. Jabbar]

"By Adam Fromal , National NBA Featured Columnist April 1, 2015"

Nice April's fools list

[sammichoffate]

1. MJ
2. Russell

3. Wilt
4. Kareem
5. Magic
6. Bird

7. Kobe
8. Duncan
9. Shaq

10 Hakeem
11. Lebron

12. Oscar
13. WestI like this list, although I personally think KAJ is #2 GOAT. Duncan, Shaq, and Kobe can be switched around. Lebron will pass Hakeem barring career-ending cramps.

[JohnFreeman]

Great list.

[Prime_Shaq]

1. Michael Jordan
2. Kareem Abdul Jabbar
3. Bill Russell
4. Magic Johnson
5. Larry Bird
6. Wilt Chamberlain
7. Tim Duncan
8. Shaq
9. LeBron James
10. Kobe Bryant

[Im Still Ballin]

1. Michael Jordan
2. Kareem Abdul Jabbar
3. Bill Russell
4. Magic Johnson
5. Larry Bird
6. Wilt Chamberlain
7. Tim Duncan
8. Shaq
9. LeBron James
10. Kobe Bryant
Solid list

What do you think it would take for Lebron to get to 5

[Lebron23]

Great Lists. Lebron will be top 5 if he wins another NBA title. Lebron is a better regular season, playoffs and finals performer than Kobe.

[Prime_Shaq]

Solid list

What do you think it would take for Lebron to get to 5
Titles. Just as simple as that. He has the team for it, just needs 2-3 more titles.

[Lebron23]

Solid list

I'd bring Kobe Shaq and Hakeem up to the top 10

1. MJ
1. Kareem
3. Magic
4. Russell
5. Wilt
6. Duncan
7. Lebron
8. Shaq
9. Bird
10. Kobe
11. Hakeem
12. Robinson


Best Lists so far.

[Prime_Shaq]

Best Lists so far.
LeBron above Shaq and Bird :rolleyes:

[Hey Yo]

Best Lists so far.
That's absurd.

Magic, a player who couldn't shoot or play defense, at #3 overall???

http://media.giphy.com/media/LEA3o7aT31A8U/giphy.gif

[Lebron23]

LeBron above Shaq and Bird :rolleyes:


I put him above Bird. And slightly below Shaq. Lebron already surpassed Bird.

[houston]

weak and strange list

[Lebron23]

That's absurd.

Magic, a player who couldn't shoot or play defense, at #3 overall???

http://media.giphy.com/media/LEA3o7aT31A8U/giphy.gif


He's like Tim Duncan in a sense that his team was winning since he was drafted by the Lakers in 1980. He even led his team in the NBA Finals in 1991 without Kareem.

I think he's an underrated defender. He was good at stealing the ball. And the Lakers were the best team in the 1980's. Although the western conference was a water down league just like the current East.

[Paul George 24]

1. Michael Jordan
2. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
3. Bill Russell
4. Wilt Chamberlain
5. Tim Duncan
6. Magic Johnson
7. LeBron James
8. Jerry West
9. Larry Bird
10. Shaquille O'Neal
11. Kobe Bryant
12. Oscar Robertson
13. David Robinson
14. Hakeem Olajuwon
15. Kevin Garnett
16. Karl Malone
17. Moses Malone
18. Charles Barkley
19. Dirk Nowitzki
20. John Havlicek
21. Bob Pettit
22. Elgin Baylor
23. John Stockton
24. Julius Irving
25. Scottie Pippen
26. Dwyane Wade
27. Clyde Drexler
28. Walt Frazier
29. Bob Cousy
30. Isiah Thomas
31. Gary Payton
32. Dolph Schayes
33. Patrick Ewing
34. Allen Iverson
35. Jason Kidd
36. Paul Pierce
37. Kevin McHale
38. Steve Nash
39. George Gervin
40. Sam Jones
41. Elvin Hayes
42. Kevin Durant
43. Dominique Wilkins
44. Ray Allen
45. Reggie Miller
46. Chris Paul
47. Wes Unfeld
48. Adrian Dantley
49. Paul Arizin
50. Dwight Howard
51. Rick Barry
52. James Worthy
53. Artis Gilmore
54. Dennis Rodman
55. Jerry Lucas
56. Sidney Moncrief
57. Bob Lanier
58. Robert Parish
59. Dave Cowens
60. Tony Parker
61. Tom Heinsohn
62. Tracy McGrady
63. Pau Gasol
64. Dikembe Mutombo
65. Kevin Johnson
66. Chauncey Billups
67. Vince Carter
68. Carmelo Anthony
69. Alex English
70. Tiny Archibald
71. Shawn Marion
72. Grant Hill
73. Dennis Johnson
74. George Mikan
75. Manu Ginobli
76. Hal Greer
77. Bill Sharman
78. Joe Dumars
79. Cliff Hagan
80. Maurice Cheeks
81. Ben Wallace
82. Bobby Jones
83. Chris Mullin
84. Bernard King
85. Neil Johnston
86. Chris Bosh
87. Bill Walton
88. Dave DeBusschere
89. Larry Nance
90. Paul Westphal
91. Jack Twyman
92. David Thompson
93. Chris Webber
94. Detlef Schrempf
95. Mitch Richmond
96. Billy Cunnignham
97. Lenny Wilkens
98. Walt Bellamy
99. Tim Hardaway
100. Mark Price

LEBRON JAMES IS TOO HIGH

[Paul George 24]

Did Kobe, or did Gasol/Shaq win them? How many 50+ wins without Gasol and Shaq? LeBron has 1 with the 2007 Cavs carrying shit on his roster.
SWEEP :lol

[Paul George 24]

That's absurd.

Magic, a player who couldn't shoot or play defense, at #3 overall???

http://media.giphy.com/media/LEA3o7aT31A8U/giphy.gif
AT LEAST HE NEVER SHOOT AIR BALL FREE THROW LIKE LEAIRBALL JAMES :lol

[J Shuttlesworth]

AT LEAST HE NEVER SHOOT AIR BALL FREE THROW LIKE LEAIRBALL JAMES :lol
He's airballed a point blank layup :no:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvZ16X9U--s

[theaussieguy]

chauncey billups makes the list?? LMAO

[24-Inch_Chrome]

He's airballed a point blank layup :no:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvZ16X9U--s

He's not even a smart troll. Just constant full retard.

[SouBeachTalents]

LEBRON JAMES IS TOO HIGH

SWEEP :lol

AT LEAST HE NEVER SHOOT AIR BALL FREE THROW LIKE LEAIRBALL JAMES :lol

LeBron's a multimillionaire, but this dude provides him free rent

[Magic 32]

:facepalm

Highest compliment possible.