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HOoopCityJones
04-03-2015, 04:19 PM
Serious question.

ImKobe
04-03-2015, 04:21 PM
Yes.

SaltyMeatballs
04-03-2015, 04:22 PM
Yes.

SugarHill
04-03-2015, 04:22 PM
No because Jordan's playoff stats >

Oscar would be top 3.

SouBeachTalents
04-03-2015, 04:23 PM
Not his playoff/Finals stats

Ancient Legend
04-03-2015, 04:25 PM
Serious question.

It would be something like this:

1-Wilt: 30 ppg 23 rpg 4.4 apg (31K points)
2-Kareem 24 ppg 11 rpg 3.6 apg (38K points)
3-MJ 30 ppg 6.2 rpg 5.3 apg (32k points)
4-Oscar 25 ppg 7.5 rpg 9.0 apg (26k points)

Playoffs wise, MJ would be tops

CavaliersFTW
04-03-2015, 04:25 PM
No because Jordan's playoff stats >

Oscar would be top 3.
I disagree. Rebounding and blocked shots are still a stat.

Wilt still has the most dominant stats in those areas in the playoffs. He wasn't just a scorer. And most of his playoff games were played after he had started to take less shots. He was still having 50+ point playoff games in the few playoff series he was playing in early in his career.

swagga
04-03-2015, 04:28 PM
Serious question.

what kind of stats, raw stats, efficiency stats, pace adjusted?

raw stats:
RS-> wilt
PO -> jordan

CavaliersFTW
04-03-2015, 04:32 PM
what kind of stats, raw stats, efficiency stats, pace adjusted?

raw stats:
RS-> wilt
PO -> jordan
Please reverse adjust for 1 free throw backcourt fouls, hand checking, offensive charges being called more often, lack of 3 point line clogging lanes, and foul shot tip ins being awarded 1 point to the foul shooter, rather than 2 points as a field goal and offensive rebound to the rebounder. Also factor in the curve of superstars getting increased relative touches per game today than games of that time (it's the guys rounding out rosters who took less shots as pace slowed, not the superstars)

And what do you know, Wilt's stats are just as good damn, heck maybe even superior today than his own era.

No no, for real though lol at adjusting pace stats like it's all linear. That takes into account none of the other relevant differences in the game of that time. There's a lot more that needs to be taken into consideration than pace.

HOoopCityJones
04-03-2015, 04:37 PM
Here's the thing though, even counting playoffs, most people don't have Wilt at number 2 or even 3 half the time. So I think there's some serious bias going on here as far as what counts between the winning & stats ratio.

swagga
04-03-2015, 04:48 PM
Please reverse adjust for 1 free throw backcourt fouls, hand checking, offensive charges being called more often, lack of 3 point line clogging lanes, and foul shot tip ins being awarded 1 point to the foul shooter, rather than 2 points as a field goal and offensive rebound to the rebounder. Also factor in the curve of superstars getting increased relative touches per game today than games of that time (it's the guys rounding out rosters who took less shots as pace slowed, not the superstars)

And what do you know, Wilt's stats are just as good damn, heck maybe even superior today than his own era.

No no, for real though lol at adjusting pace stats like it's all linear. That takes into account none of the other relevant differences in the game of that time. There's a lot more that needs to be taken into consideration than pace.

i don't see how this is relevant for this thread, but yes, wilt was a great statpadder. Too bad he proved time and time again that his game wilted in the playoffs.

Sincerely, for a center, the most that has to be considered is the impact of spacing and the impact of full/hybrid zones, which would greatly hamper wilt, so no, his stats would be significantly inferior today.

Btw, you are one of the most full of shit posters on this forum, and your basketball knowledge is absolutely pedestrian, you attention whoring troll, you are worse than dubeta imo.