View Full Version : Current Harden or 2010 Wade
greatest-ever
04-03-2015, 05:41 PM
For me its 2010 Wade comfortably but my friend insists Harden is just as good.
VengefulAngel
04-03-2015, 05:45 PM
Ill take every version of Wade, even current Wade will be a better playoff performer than Harden.
RightToCensor
04-03-2015, 05:55 PM
People are just being simply stupid for choosing Wade.
Harden is 2nd in the Western Conference and is poised to be the MVP. Don't compare him to some fluke that needed the refs in 2006 and Lebron from 2011-2014 to be successful.
Cocaine80s
04-03-2015, 05:55 PM
2010 Harden
Smoke117
04-03-2015, 05:57 PM
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This is an insult to even make this thread.
RightToCensor
04-03-2015, 06:00 PM
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-ELmC8VmjSOs/UxaHb5nZXLI/AAAAAAAADeo/ktJqQmUmulE/s1600/1.gif
SaltyMeatballs
04-03-2015, 06:02 PM
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-ELmC8VmjSOs/UxaHb5nZXLI/AAAAAAAADeo/ktJqQmUmulE/s1600/1.gif
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Spurs5Rings2014
04-03-2015, 06:07 PM
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-ELmC8VmjSOs/UxaHb5nZXLI/AAAAAAAADeo/ktJqQmUmulE/s1600/1.gif
This and the Manu flop are :roll:
greatest-ever
04-03-2015, 06:11 PM
People are just being simply stupid for choosing Wade.
Harden is 2nd in the Western Conference and is poised to be the MVP. Don't compare him to some fluke that needed the refs in 2006 and Lebron from 2011-2014 to be successful.
I was hoping i wouldn't get answer from your biased ass.
But yeah harden will lose in the 1st round so his mvp and 2-3 seed wont mean jack now will it?:lol
G0ATbe
04-03-2015, 06:12 PM
Wade easily.
3ball
04-03-2015, 06:13 PM
People are just being simply stupid for choosing Wade.
not really.. wade differs from harden in that wade can physically overpower at the rim - players that can do this (MJ, Wade, Lebron) are the ones with the higher efficiencies.. the guys that can't overpower at the rim as much (kobe, harden) have lower efficiencies.
compared to the aforementioned overpowering wings, harden plays more like a small guard, tony parkerish, kyrie'ish - i.e. he uses more floaters, more one-foot takeoffs, more finesse shots, rather than just trying to take it up strong and overpower... all things being equal, the small-guard type of wing can't beat an overpowering wing, imo.
Harden is 2nd in the Western Conference and is poised to be the MVP. Don't compare him to some fluke that needed the refs in 2006 and Lebron from 2011-2014 to be successful.
don't forget that wade had shaq too - shaq in 2006 was still 20/10... and 20/10 from shaq means more than 20/10 from most other bigs.
but ur right - the 2006 Finals was a testament to how soft the leagues defenses had become... wide open lanes, ticky-tack fouls - that was the series that sent a loud message to players and put players on notice: YOU CAN'T TOUCH GUYS ANYMORE.
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JohnMax
04-03-2015, 06:42 PM
Harden = Lebron
Wade = Kyrie
Kyrie and Wade are horrible by themselves but look like the best player in the NBA when they have a high impact teammate like Harden (Lebron, Shaq)
SouBeachTalents
04-03-2015, 06:50 PM
Harden = Lebron
Wade = Kyrie
Kyrie and Wade are horrible by themselves but look like the best player in the NBA when they have a high impact teammate like Harden (Lebron, Shaq)
What the **** does this even mean? What does Harden have to do with LeBron or Wade/Kyrie?
And Wade >>> Kyrie
3ball
04-03-2015, 06:52 PM
Another good question is who was more ball-dominant - if i remember correctly, Wade was the first wing to dominate the ball as much as a starting PG.
I think Wade kind of introduced the PG-style play for wing players.... I'm trying to think of others before him, and I can't.
Grant Hill could dominate the ball and play a PG-style I guess.. and Tmac... but honestly, these guys didn't pound the ball like prime Wade - he took it to another level - wade was like, "hey everyone, did you know you can do all this stuff with the spacing and hand-check ban?"
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VengefulAngel
04-03-2015, 06:53 PM
Harden = Lebron
Wade = Kyrie
Kyrie and Wade are horrible by themselves but look like the best player in the NBA when they have a high impact teammate like Harden (Lebron, Shaq)
**** off TMZ.
You just showed us you know nothing about basketball. Wade's playoff resume far exceeds Harden. Wade had one of the greatest finals performances ever with a watered down Shaq as his second option.
greatest-ever
04-03-2015, 06:58 PM
Harden = Lebron
Wade = Kyrie
Kyrie and Wade are horrible by themselves but look like the best player in the NBA when they have a high impact teammate like Harden (Lebron, Shaq)
Lmao what? Are you smoking hard drugs?
RightToCensor
04-03-2015, 07:13 PM
Wade and Kyrie are both regular season warriors without a former MVP on their roster. Great stats, no wins.
Lebron and Harden win without them. Great stats, great wins, MVP, championship
It's not rocket science retards .
SouBeachTalents
04-03-2015, 07:33 PM
Wade and Kyrie are both regular season warriors without a former MVP on their roster. Great stats, no wins.
Lebron and Harden win without them. Great stats, great wins, MVP, championship
It's not rocket science retards .
Sorry, forgot about all of Harden's postseason success and series shooting 40% without Durant/Westbrook
greatest-ever
04-03-2015, 07:34 PM
Wade and Kyrie are both regular season warriors without a former MVP on their roster. Great stats, no wins.
Lebron and Harden win without them. Great stats, great wins, MVP, championship
It's not rocket science retards .
Please tell me about this championship that Harden has? It's Wade with the 3 championships, and one of them he was clearly the best player go look at the numbers. And Mvp isn't even a guarantee, its a 50-50 between him and Curry.
Stop embarrassing yourself.
Hamtaro CP3KDKG
04-03-2015, 07:42 PM
http://i.imgur.com/NFixKYx.gif
is this a joke? Peak Wade or Harden?..............
http://a.espncdn.com/photo/2011/0130/life_g_dwade_300.jpg
Western Conference = check
MVP = check
I'd go with current Harden over ANY version of Wade.
JohnFreeman
04-03-2015, 07:46 PM
Wade every year.
SaltyMeatballs
04-03-2015, 07:47 PM
Wade every year.
Even rookie Wade? :biggums:
greatest-ever
04-03-2015, 08:00 PM
Western Conference = check
MVP = check
I'd go with current Harden over ANY version of Wade.
The bolded makes no sense at all.
As for MVP that is not a forgone conclusion number one. And i guess you'd take Derrick Rose and Allen Iverson over Jerry West since they got one and he doesn't?
Western Conference = check
MVP = check
I'd go with current Harden over ANY version of Wade.
09 Wade shits on Harden
G0ATbe
04-03-2015, 08:03 PM
Wade and Kyrie are both regular season warriors without a former MVP on their roster. Great stats, no wins.
Lebron and Harden win without them. Great stats, great wins, MVP, championship
It's not rocket science retards .
When did Harden and LeBald win championships without them? :kobe:
Your analogy works if you're talking about Kobe.
What's Harden's career playoff averages again? I'll wait.
Micku
04-03-2015, 09:27 PM
Another good question is who was more ball-dominant - if i remember correctly, Wade was the first wing to dominate the ball as much as a starting PG.
I think Wade kind of introduced the PG-style play for wing players.... I'm trying to think of others before him, and I can't.
Grant Hill could dominate the ball and play a PG-style I guess.. and Tmac... but honestly, these guys didn't pound the ball like prime Wade - he took it to another level - wade was like, "hey everyone, did you know you can do all this stuff with the spacing and hand-check ban?"
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He was no way near the first, and he played PG in his first year. And he didn't dominate the ball as oppose to an AI I think.
And AI or Wade weren't the first players to implement a "PG style play" for wing players either. Magic Johnson wasn't even a PG in the first few years, yet he held the ball a lot. Pistol Pete also held the ball a lot from what I seen. MJ did that too. It was much more evident prior the to P.Jax.
I'm not including SF yet either. You got guys like Pippen, John Johnson, Paul Pressey, and Grant Hill as you said.
With that said, we need to elaborate on what you mean by "as much as a PG". PG on their own team or as top 20 players of time of possession or something. As far as I know, we only started doing that stat recently, so you would have to go back and do the stat yourself manually to prove what you claim.
People are just being simply stupid for choosing Wade.
Harden is 2nd in the Western Conference and is poised to be the MVP. Don't compare him to some fluke that needed the refs in 2006 and Lebron from 2011-2014 to be successful.
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