Lebron/Kobe could be the last players to enter top 10.....

[pauk]

Its not just another Lebron/Kobe thread, hear me out.... mostly you haters...

This just hit me, as much as you/we hate Kobe or Lebron, you need to be aware of something very quick before its to late for you to learn to have any appreciation for them at all eventually...... and that is they may very well be the last guys you/we see enter the top 10 rankings in a very long time, especially Lebron since well he most likely will retire later than Kobe & he is nowhere done yet....

Think about this, the top 10 as it is now with Duncan/Shaq/Kobe entering there and most recently Lebron entering there is now STACKED like never before.... for another player to come along with top 10 potential is extremly slim (meaning a guy better and/or just as good as any of those 10 guys) and for another player to come along and actually outbetter one of those 10 guys anytime soon is much more slim, i think its actually so slim that i wouldnt be surprised if those would be the absolute last guys to enter top 10.... in 50 years or something....

LET THAT SINK IN...........

Just stop the damn hate.... start hating after Kobe retired and then Lebron retired or something, not only will you maybe not see another top 10 player again but certianly will you not see another player as unique... You will only be seeing Curry's, Westbrook's, Harden's, Rose's, Griffin's and so on from now on.... all great players we will be having fun with watching.... but none with top 10 talent/skill/potential of actually ending up top 10 all-time.......

Dont hate, appreciate, what may be the last breed of a top 10 all-time player you maybe will ever see in your life.....

To you Kobe stans or Lebron stans.... stop going against eachother, YOU WON, YOU BOTH WON....... If you must hate then at least gather up instead and hate/chuckle together at the SGs/SFs you will be seeing from now on....... because damn sure you wont be seeing another Kobe or Lebron again.....

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:bowdown:

[Im Still Ballin]

Agreed brother

[sd3035]

:cheers:

[plowking]

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[Genaro]

Right now I really can't see no one in the league with potential except for Durant and Brow.
But 50 years you're reaching, you can't predict the talent that will appear that far.

[Cold soul]

Finally a good well thought out thread by pauk I'm impressed. :applause:

[SugarHill]

A top 10 talent has been coming around every 8 years or so since Magic/Bird so why would it just stop? I think what's happening is you're seeing two players from your childhood nearing or at their end and this is just too much to handle. 50 years until a top 10 talent emerges? Durant was well on his way to that level of player and probably still is. Then who knows. Generational players will come and always do. Hell, we might be looking at one right now in Davis.

[Real14]

LeBron is not top 10 tho.

[24-Inch_Chrome]

LeBron is not top 10 tho.

**** off. This was actually gonna be a positive thread.

[J Shuttlesworth]

The top 10 will eventually change. you never know. In 40 years, MJ might be #8 or something

[Milbuck]

LeBron is not top 10 tho.
New York Knicks.

[Milbuck]

New York Knicks.
http://gifrific.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/kevin-garnett-reaction.gif

[Real14]

http://gifrific.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/kevin-garnett-reaction.gif

bucks haven't won a damn ring since 71

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[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

The way today's game is being taught, you could be right.

Kobe and LeBron are 2 of the only players in modern history that are basically skilled in all areas. Crazy.

[Real14]

**** off. This was actually gonna be a positive thread.

I'm just speaking the truth man, no hate.

[24-Inch_Chrome]

bucks haven't won a damn ring since 71

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Knicks haven't won since 1973. :rolleyes:

[SugarHill]

bucks haven't won a damn ring since 71

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as opposed to 73?

[SpecialQue]

bucks haven't won a damn ring since 71

http://gifrific.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/kevin-garnett-reaction.gif

You're seriously shit talking because your team won its last ring two years later and have been irrelevant ever since?

[Real14]

Knicks haven't won since 1973. :rolleyes:

duh.:biggums:

[Prime_Shaq]

Durant and AD has potential to go into the Top 10.

[Real14]

You're seriously shit talking because your team won its last ring two years later and have been irrelevant ever since?
we didn't went to the finals after 73 bitch?:coleman:

[24-Inch_Chrome]

duh.:biggums:

Milwaukee has also had better players than the Knicks ever had. Plus they're on the road to relevance right now while the Knicks have 60 losses.

Bucks > Knicks.

[RRR3]

Yet another thread ruined by Schlemeil14 :facepalm

[Real14]

as opposed to 73?
bucks haven't been to the finals since phuckin' 74

http://gifrific.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/kevin-garnett-reaction.gif

[RRR3]

Milwaukee has also had better players than the Knicks ever had. Plus they're on the road to relevance right now while the Knicks have 60 losses.

Bucks > Knicks.
A moldy sack of potatoes>Knicks tbqh

[Real14]

Yet another thread ruined by Schlemeil14 :facepalm
blame the other haters:coleman:

[SpecialQue]

Back to the OP,

I...agree? Good post.

[christian1923]

This thread sucks.

Of course there will be another player that will crack the top 10.

[SpecialQue]

This thread sucks.

Of course there will be another player that will crack the top 10.

No, it will never happen.

[Real14]

Milwaukee has also had better players than the Knicks ever had. Plus they're on the road to relevance right now while the Knicks have 60 losses.

Bucks > Knicks.

Then why they havent been to the finals since 74 then?

http://gifrific.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/kevin-garnett-reaction.gif

[RRR3]

Back to the OP,

I...agree? Good post.
I admire your valiant effort to get us back on track, but let's be honest, once Cumguzzler14 starts pounding his keyboard like a deranged rooster with dysentery, there's no saving a thread.

[Alamо]

OP never heard of Jordan Clarkson

[SugarHill]

No, it will never happen.
:roll:

[J Shuttlesworth]

Bucks finals win %: .500
Knicks finals win %: .250

[SouBeachTalents]

Then why they havent been to the finals since 74 then?

So you're arguing it's better to make the Finals and lose than not make it at all? If that's the case why is LeBron winning 2 titles in 5 Finals trips so embarrassing?

[RRR3]

No, it will never happen.
http://images1.miaminewtimes.com/imager/mario-chalmers-wants-to-party-with-you/u/original/6577729/mario_chalmers.jpg

[Real14]

This thread sucks.

Of course there will be another player that will crack the top 10.

I agree with this statement. OP don't know what he's talking about:facepalm

[Milbuck]

Then why they havent been to the finals since 74 then?

http://gifrific.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/kevin-garnett-reaction.gif
Bucks: 38-38
Knicks: 14-62

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[christian1923]

No, it will never happen.
lol there have been 6 top 10 players since jordan got drafted if you count hakeem.

basketball is only growing. There are going to be plenty of great players in the next 20 years. Some that will be top 10.

[RRR3]

Bucks: 38-38
Knicks: 14-62

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Great post :applause:


Fapped

[Real14]

Bucks finals win %: .500
Knicks finals win %: .250

knicks- 2 rings
bucks- 1 ring.

[24-Inch_Chrome]

knicks- 2 rings
bucks- 1 ring.

LeBron - 2 rings.
Carmelo - 0 rings.

[Real14]

Bucks: 38-38
Knicks: 14-62

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great way to dodge my ether post bitch:oldlol:

[Milbuck]

great way to dodge my ether post bitch:oldlol:
Great post. Agreed. We'll see you guys in the playoffs.

[RRR3]

LeBron - 2 rings.
Carmelo - 0 rings.
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[christian1923]

Great post. Agreed. We'll see you guys in the playoffs.
You'd rather have a top 2-3 pick or get swept in the first round of the playoffs?

[RRR3]

You'd rather have a top 2-3 pick or get swept in the first round of the playoffs?
Bucks have Giannis and Jabari already

[Real14]

LeBron - 2 rings.
Carmelo - 0 rings.

Lebron had super stacked teams

[christian1923]

Bucks have Giannis and Jabari already
So they don't need anymore pieces?

[Im Still Ballin]

Everybody report Real14

he doesn't discuss basketball only seeks conflict

[Milbuck]

Enough thread derailment. This thread isn't about how much better Kobe and Lebron are than Carmelo or how much better the Bucks are than the Knicks.

[Eric Cartman]

Beautiful words Pauk :applause: :cry:

[24-Inch_Chrome]

On topic, repped, great post.

[Real14]

Everybody report Real14

he doesn't discuss basketball only seeks conflict

Report me for saying that bron is not top 10? :biggums: yall bronn stans are sick:roll:

[24-Inch_Chrome]

Report me for saying that bron is not top 10? :biggums: yall bronn stans are sick:roll:

Future negged. Seriously, **** off.

[Im Still Ballin]

Consistent posting behavior AKA trolling

[Real14]

Enough thread derailment. This thread isn't about how much better Kobe and Lebron are than Carmelo or how much better the Bucks are than the Knicks.

Reported for continuation of derailment.

[Real14]

Future negged. Seriously, **** off.
Why are you so mad raptors fan?:lol

[24-Inch_Chrome]

Why are you so mad raptors fan?:lol

This had the potential to be a great thread before you disrupted it. I've never seen you contribute anything to any thread, it's always some shit about LeBron. I don't like you because you're a worthless poster.

My being a Raptors fan has nothing to do that.

[christian1923]

This had the potential to be a great thread before you disrupted it. I've never seen you contribute anything to any thread, it's always some shit about LeBron. I don't like you because you're a worthless poster.

My being a Raptors fan has nothing to do that.
I'm still waiting on what's so good about this thread, it's naive.

Read between the lines. All he is saying is that there will never be another player better then Lebron

[Real14]

You'd rather have a top 2-3 pick or get swept in the first round of the playoffs?

http://gifrific.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/kevin-garnett-reaction.gif

[Real14]

This had the potential to be a great thread before you disrupted it. I've never seen you contribute anything to any thread, it's always some shit about LeBron. I don't like you because you're a worthless poster.

My being a Raptors fan has nothing to do that.

you don't know me then:coleman:

[24-Inch_Chrome]

you don't know me then:coleman:

I'm quite sure I do.

[Real14]

This had the potential to be a great thread before you disrupted it. I've never seen you contribute anything to any thread, it's always some shit about LeBron. I don't like you because you're a worthless poster.

My being a Raptors fan has nothing to do that.

Im a wayyy better poster than you bro. Get that shit right:no:

[Prometheus]

I guess I'm the only one who likes what happened to this thread. It's like a little intervention. The guy knows he has a problem, I've seen him admit it before. This will only help him.

As far as OP, you may be right, but there is just no way to predict the future. In 1995, we didn't know if Jordan would ever play again. The rules were different then, and they will surely change again. This fall, we may see stories about a high school freshman prodigy who will go on to win seven championships and surpass MJ as the greatest basketball player of all time.

But whether or not you're right, I think the Kobe/LeBron stan pissing match is losing its appeal as Kobe faces his career's end. I think we will see players of their caliber before too long, but what we will probably NEVER see again in basketball is the overlapping of two all-time great careers who were both so polarizing, and whose approaches to the game so perfectly represented opposite approaches to super-stardom.

[Real14]

I'm quite sure I do.
NO you don't. How long you been here? since December 2014?:biggums:

[RRR3]

I'm quite sure I do.
Naw bruh, yo got mah boiii REAL all fughed up doe he be dat real nikka doe homie brah man Melo iz da goat Da Knickz iz bezt team eva doe

[24-Inch_Chrome]

I guess I'm the only one who likes what happened to this thread. It's like a little intervention. The guy knows he has a problem, I've seen him admit it before. This will only help him.

As far as OP, you may be right, but there is just no way to predict the future. In 1995, we didn't know if Jordan would ever play again. The rules were different then, and they will surely change again. This fall, we may see stories about a high school freshman prodigy who will go on to win seven championships and surpass MJ as the greatest basketball player of all time.

But whether or not you're right, I think the Kobe/LeBron stan pissing match is losing its appeal as Kobe faces his career's end. I think we will see players of their caliber before too long, but what we will probably NEVER see again in basketball is the overlapping of two all-time great careers who were both so polarizing, and whose approaches to the game so perfectly represented opposite approaches to super-stardom.

Well said, I completely agree. :applause:

[J Shuttlesworth]

I negged him for you, 24 inch :bowdown:

[24-Inch_Chrome]

I negged him for you, 24 inch :bowdown:

:cheers:

[nba_55]

Real14 makes Hawkfan look like a good poster. REPORTED.

[christian1923]

I guess I'm the only one who likes what happened to this thread. It's like a little intervention. The guy knows he has a problem, I've seen him admit it before. This will only help him.

As far as OP, you may be right, but there is just no way to predict the future. In 1995, we didn't know if Jordan would ever play again. The rules were different then, and they will surely change again. This fall, we may see stories about a high school freshman prodigy who will go on to win seven championships and surpass MJ as the greatest basketball player of all time.

But whether or not you're right, I think the Kobe/LeBron stan pissing match is losing its appeal as Kobe faces his career's end. I think we will see players of their caliber before too long, but what we will probably NEVER see again in basketball is the overlapping of two all-time great careers who were both so polarizing, and whose approaches to the game so perfectly represented opposite approaches to super-stardom.
Marvin Bagley.

Class of 2018. 6-10 Small Foward. He's the 8th ranked prospect regardless of class.

[Real14]

Naw bruh, yo got mah boiii REAL all fughed up doe he be dat real nikka doe homie brah man Melo iz da goat Da Knickz iz bezt team eva doe

You can't be like me bruh. You phucking up tha style:facepalm

[Real14]

Real14 makes Hawkfan look like a good poster. REPORTED.
under your name it says 1-9, and you expect people to believe your dumb ass?:coleman:

[knicksman]

3 players alone in this era have made it to the top 10:kobe:

Bran stans again showing their lack of IQ

[Real14]

I negged him for you, 24 inch :bowdown:

You neg me cuz you're a bitch that can't accept tha truth:no:

[bballnoob1192]

Pauk reuniting the Lebron Family and the Kobe Family. Pauk is truly a renaissance man nowadays.

[J Shuttlesworth]

You neg me cuz you're a bitch that can't accept tha truth:no:
You seem to be in the pretty small minority here bro. Seems like you're the one who can't accept the truth

[BigBoss]

Every 10 years a new kid on the block enters the league. Some dude right now is 12-13 studying Kobe or Lebron's game.

[Hey Yo]

Everybody report Real14

he doesn't discuss basketball only seeks conflict
That's what the ignore feature is for.

[inclinerator]

u may be right nba will probably die in the future when robot, vr and other stuff takes over entertainment

[Real14]

That's what the ignore feature is for.
Spoken like a true salty bitch:applause:

[bballnoob1192]

Every 10 years a new kid on the block enters the league. Some dude right now is 12-13 studying Kobe or Lebron's game.
I'd say younger, cuz nowadays if you are 12-13 and still havn't been spotlighted by the media then you don't have top 10 talent. Unless the dude is from africa or something even then i'm sure espn would be all over this kid. It's gonna have to be some 7-10 year old for the media to not have their shit all over the kid.

[Cold soul]

Durant and AD has potential to go into the Top 10.

Highly doubtful either does especially Durant. Davis has best chance and most potential the top 10 is super loaded top to bottom.

[christian1923]

I'd say younger, cuz nowadays if you are 12-13 and still havn't been spotlighted by the media then you don't have top 10 talent. Unless the dude is from africa or something even then i'm sure espn would be all over this kid. It's gonna have to be some 7-10 year old for the media to not have their shit all over the kid.
Lol wuut

[imnew09]

Pauk stays making lebron d**k riding threads. Lebeta colluded like a lil btch for his rings and stat padded his way along with 2 superstars with the Heat.

Top 12 at best

[Real14]

Pauk stays making lebron d**k riding threads. Lebeta colluded like a lil btch for his rings and stat padded his way along with 2 superstars with the Heat.

Top 12 at best

top 20 at best.

[Hamtaro CP3KDKG]

top 20 at best.
Nikka how u from Long Island NY and u reppin Pac:biggums: :biggums:
only thing worse would be if u was from brooklyn:biggums:

[Real14]

Nikka how u from Long Island NY and u reppin Pac:biggums: :biggums:
only thing worse would be if u was from brooklyn:biggums:

:facepalm Pac is my favorite rapper, he's tha best, plus he was born in n.y period, end of damn story:coleman:.

[Real14]

3. LeBron James
4. Kobe Bryant
5. Shaquille O'Neal

:roll:

[SouBeachTalents]

Not sure I agree with this. I can easily see Kevin Durant surpassing Larry Bird if he wasn't such a beta. Then you have guys that just came into the league like Andrew Wiggins who has nearly all of the important skills down packed and comes naturally... post scoring, perimeter defense, ability to draw contact.. looking like UNC MJ already with an additional 2 inches. I can easily see him entering the top 10 list if things pan out the way it should be.


To me, Kobe and LeBron are top 5 All-Time without question. Players in danger of exiting the top 10/ who are inferior to LeBron / Kobe as players/careers are:

10. Hakeem Olajuwon - 2 rings
9. Magic Johnson - no defense, stacked squad, lacked goat scoring ability, gutter era
8. Larry Bird - no defense, short longevity, stacked squad for his entire career yet only won 3 rings, gutter era
7. Wilt Chamberlain - gutter era, woat drop-off from regular season to playoffs and finals
8. Tim Duncan - not aesthetically pleasing, no back to back rings, no signature move or play, not the best player of his era


I'd say only safe players for the next 40 years will be:

1. Michael Jordan
2. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
3. LeBron James
4. Kobe Bryant
5. Shaquille O'Neal

Bolded every ridiculous statement from this casserole of nonsense

[dubeta]

LeBron is slightly underrated, and there is a big spelling mistake for #4, but otherwise good list

[Prime_Shaq]

Highly doubtful either does especially Durant. Davis has best chance and most potential the top 10 is super loaded top to bottom.
Yeah both of em aren't clear cut but there's definitely a chance for it to happen

[Prime_Shaq]

Not sure I agree with this. I can easily see Kevin Durant surpassing Larry Bird if he wasn't such a beta. Then you have guys that just came into the league like Andrew Wiggins who has nearly all of the important skills down packed and comes naturally... post scoring, perimeter defense, ability to draw contact.. looking like UNC MJ already with an additional 2 inches. I can easily see him entering the top 10 list if things pan out the way it should be.


To me, Kobe and LeBron are top 5 All-Time without question. Players in danger of exiting the top 10/ who are inferior to LeBron / Kobe as players/careers are:

10. Hakeem Olajuwon - 2 rings, 1 MVP, only two goat seasons
9. Magic Johnson - no defense, stacked squad, lacked goat scoring ability, gutter era
8. Larry Bird - no defense, short longevity, stacked squad for his entire career yet only won 3 rings, gutter era
7. Wilt Chamberlain - gutter era, woat drop-off from regular season to playoffs and finals
8. Tim Duncan - not aesthetically pleasing, no back to back rings, no signature move or play, not the best player of his era


I'd say only safe players for the next 40 years will be:

1. Michael Jordan
2. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
3. LeBron James
4. Kobe Bryant
5. Shaquille O'Neal
Contender for the worst post of all time

[JohnFreeman]

I think both of them are top 10, I think both of them are better then Bird as well.

[Real14]

LeBron is slightly underrated, and there is a big spelling mistake for #4, but otherwise good list
REPORTED.

[Real14]

I think both of them are top 10, I think both of them are better then Bird as well.
Bird is better than bron.

[JohnFreeman]

Bird is better than bron.
He just isn't

[Real14]

He just isn't
:coleman:

[NZStreetBaller]

lol people try too hard to search for the next best thing. I bet you anything the next best thing will be a player who was 2nd round picked prolli phillipino for something cool like that. and just tears the league a new butthole!!!

[ArbitraryWater]

Oh pls, there is so much ****ing talent out there right now, AND COMING... as far as that top 10 level, we have Durant and Davis, both good enough to make it there one day, AND MORE PLAYERS COMING...

[greatest-ever]

Well first of all i have Kobe 11th all time, Lebron came in and kicked him out.

But yeah i mean i don't see anyone in the league cracking top 10 anytime within the next 20 years or so. KD had small chance before his injury, but after it i think his chances are basically 0. As for Davis yeah he has the potential but he doesn't seem like he'll have a durable enough of a career.

[greatest-ever]

Lebron had super stacked teams
Yeah not really dude. Did you even watch the heat in the playoffs from 2012-2014 or just look at the names on the roster. In 2012 Bosh missed half the playoffs and Wade was banged up(still was solid). In 2013 both Wade and Bosh were trash in the playoffs. in 2014 nobody but Lbj showed up in the finals.

[Dresta]

A top 10 talent has been coming around every 8 years or so since Magic/Bird so why would it just stop? I think what's happening is you're seeing two players from your childhood nearing or at their end and this is just too much to handle. 50 years until a top 10 talent emerges? Durant was well on his way to that level of player and probably still is. Then who knows. Generational players will come and always do. Hell, we might be looking at one right now in Davis.
This.

OP just made one of the stupidest and most child-like posts in the history of ISHs - congrats :applause:.