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zoom17
04-04-2015, 05:00 PM
http://i.gyazo.com/bb43a90c999159fc5b3009452c540994.png

SouBeachTalents
04-04-2015, 05:01 PM
http://terezowens-com-uploads.s3.amazonaws.com/2011/06/Lord-of-the-Rings.jpg

JohnMax
04-04-2015, 05:14 PM
https://flashbacknba.files.wordpress.com/2013/12/baron.jpg

sportjames23
04-04-2015, 05:17 PM
https://flashbacknba.files.wordpress.com/2013/12/baron.jpg


Saw this coming. :oldlol:

Hamtaro CP3KDKG
04-04-2015, 05:19 PM
http://allstar.kg/uploads/posts/2012-10/1350635411_dirk_cristal_taylor.jpg

KobesFinger
04-04-2015, 05:20 PM
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-Dq_wV8b5uhU/UPs8YKxleEI/AAAAAAABJSs/as7AUg7xUt4/s1600/SWISHLOGO.png

ErhnamDjinn
04-04-2015, 07:32 PM
https://flashbacknba.files.wordpress.com/2013/12/baron.jpg
This picture is actually the legacy of b didi in 1 pic.

StephHamann
04-04-2015, 07:57 PM
http://i.imgur.com/YSeh2xR.gifhttp://i.imgur.com/YSeh2xR.gifhttp://i.imgur.com/YSeh2xR.gifhttp://i.imgur.com/YSeh2xR.gifhttp://i.imgur.com/YSeh2xR.gifhttp://i.imgur.com/YSeh2xR.gifhttp://i.imgur.com/YSeh2xR.gif

RagingBull33
04-04-2015, 11:58 PM
http://40.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lmkjpwbjh01qh9wcto1_500.jpg

west_tip
04-05-2015, 12:01 AM
http://media.cmgdigital.com/shared/img/photos/2012/03/31/5f/32/dirk11_909799a.jpg
:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

Thorn
04-05-2015, 12:01 AM
https://i.imgur.com/H7flMy5.png

Prime_Shaq
04-05-2015, 12:02 AM
https://flashbacknba.files.wordpress.com/2013/12/baron.jpg
Hella fun team to watch

Im so nba'd out
04-05-2015, 12:03 AM
http://hoopeduponline.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/spurs-sph.jpg

no pun intended
04-05-2015, 12:04 AM
http://40.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lmkjpwbjh01qh9wcto1_500.jpg
This is the right answer.

HylianNightmare
04-05-2015, 01:17 AM
http://40.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lmkjpwbjh01qh9wcto1_500.jpg
Yes

Thunderfan86
04-05-2015, 01:40 AM
http://allstar.kg/uploads/posts/2012-10/1350635411_dirk_cristal_taylor.jpg
Can someone explain this please?

Harison
04-05-2015, 03:40 AM
Can someone explain this please?
His GF :confusedshrug:

IllegalD
04-05-2015, 03:41 AM
http://drunkathlete.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/steve-nash-dirk-nowitzki-3-drunk-pictures1.jpg

masonanddixon
04-05-2015, 05:51 AM
http://drunkathlete.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/steve-nash-dirk-nowitzki-3-drunk-pictures1.jpg

THIS

StephHamann
04-05-2015, 06:07 AM
http://www.germania-shop.com/out/pictures/master/product/1/treu-1.jpg

Bullsfan231
04-05-2015, 12:13 PM
http://40.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lmkjpwbjh01qh9wcto1_500.jpg


attending

artificial
04-05-2015, 12:26 PM
Can someone explain this please?

It's a brutal, horrible story:

Crystal Ann Taylor -- the name on her police record -- is not from South America, but from Saint Louis -- from the west bank of the Mississippi River, not the Amazon. She and Nowitzki lived together for a year, after having known each other for several years. She was the one who tried to initiate the romantic relationship, and when she had finally gained his trust, she had someone videotape the couple -- she and her trophy -- in his kitchen.

Nowitzki says that the worst of it is that the whole world can now pry, uninvited, into his personal life. Crystal Taylor's friend sold the video made in his kitchen to the press, and it landed in YouTube. Nowitzki says he is furious, and feels "somehow helpless, as well."

http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/in-love-with-a-fraud-dirk-nowitzki-s-nba-dream-turns-into-a-nightmare-a-632393.html

kamil
04-05-2015, 12:42 PM
This is the right answer.

This.

TaLvsCuaL
04-05-2015, 12:46 PM
http://lobshots.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/dirkjesus.jpg

SCdac
04-05-2015, 01:03 PM
the part of me where the Spurs-Mavs rivalry exists, that recognized Dirk's softness thinks it's this picture from his MVP season

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y147/adrumaddict/dirkguardedbycaptainjack.jpg

the part of me that likes Dirk and respects him for overcoming his weaknesses and sticking with his team through thick and thin thinks it's this one

http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--iD_GN45X--/c_fit,fl_progressive,q_80,w_636/18j4yob3vlubvjpg.jpg

DMAVS41
04-05-2015, 01:43 PM
http://a2.espncdn.com/photo/2013/0411/dal_mavericks_06.jpg


This is where Dirk really established his legacy as an all time great/dominant player. Beating the Duncan led Spurs at the peak of their powers (only player/team to do so in their 3 year run when they were at their best)...on the road in a game 7 at that.

Made even more special by winning with a clown coach Avery Johnson.

Not many guys in NBA history could have walked into that series with Avery Johnson coaching and somehow beaten the Pop/Duncan Spurs with homecourt in 06.

27/13/3 65% TS for the series...

Greatness...

Akrazotile
04-05-2015, 01:49 PM
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http://a2.espncdn.com/photo/2013/0411/dal_mavericks_06.jpg


This is where Dirk really established his legacy as an all time great/dominant player. Beating the Duncan led Spurs at the peak of their powers (only player/team to do so in their 3 year run when they were at their best)...on the road in a game 7 at that.

Made even more special by winning with a clown coach Avery Johnson.

Not many guys in NBA history could have walked into that series with Avery Johnson coaching and somehow beaten the Pop/Duncan Spurs with homecourt in 06.

Greatness...

Wasnt Duncan hobbled by planter fasciitis in the playoffs that year?

SCdac
04-05-2015, 01:51 PM
to be fair to the Little General, he did win COTY and got them playing defense! Nellie ball was whack, however imperfect Avery was

Dr Hawk
04-05-2015, 01:51 PM
http://espngrantland.files.wordpress.com/2014/03/dirk_1152.jpg

DMAVS41
04-05-2015, 01:52 PM
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Wasnt Duncan hobbled by planter fasciitis in the playoffs that year?

He dealt with some issues, but it didn't impact his play at all.

He had a monster series and played fantastic. Manu was a monster as well in that series.

Dirk and the Mavs just came through when it mattered most and took down the champs in one of the best series ever...with an all time great game 7 that saw Dirk and Duncan play truly fantastic.

DMAVS41
04-05-2015, 01:55 PM
to be fair to the Little General, he did win COTY and got them playing defense! Nellie ball was whack, however imperfect Avery was

He was a terrible overall coach and maybe 10% as good as Pop.

Totally agree Nellie also was a bit of a nut.

Just more reason why it was so special to do what the Mavs did. Hard to win with truly horrid coaching.

And lets not ignore it...Avery was a shit coach.

SCdac
04-05-2015, 02:03 PM
Eh, it's all a matter of opinion. Avery isn't a HOF coach obviously, but he has a respectable .577 W/L% over 400+ games. Agree to disagree. There's been waaaaay worse coach's, so some perspective is key. I don't think Avery is much of a "people person" and that hurt him imo.

DMAVS41
04-05-2015, 02:08 PM
Eh, it's all a matter of opinion. Avery isn't a HOF coach obviously, but he has a respectable .577 W/L% over 400+ games. Agree to disagree. There's been waaaaay worse coach's, so some perspective is key. I don't think Avery is much of a "people person" and that hurt him imo.

It's not a matter of opinion. He was a poor head coach.

Of course there are worse coaches in NBA history. I never said he was the worst coach ever. I said he was a shit coach.

Don't think you are really qualified here as I doubt you were paying much attention to the game to game strategy of Avery during his time on the Mavs.

All I'll say is that there is a reason he's only getting attention from down and out college programs. Seems obvious why that is the case. Poor coach and poor people person like you said (part of coaching by the way).

Give those Mavs teams a pop, or riley, or brown, or jackson...shit...even a Doc Rivers and I'd bet my life the results are very different. He was really bad dude...

SCdac
04-05-2015, 02:10 PM
It's not a matter of opinion. He was a poor head coach.

Of course there are worse coaches in NBA history. I never said he was the worst coach ever. I said he was a shit coach.

Don't think you are really qualified here as I doubt you were paying much attention to the game to game strategy of Avery during his time on the Mavs.

All I'll say is that there is a reason he's only getting attention from down and out college programs. Seems obvious why that is the case. Poor coach and poor people person like you said (part of coaching by the way).

Huh? I was watching the Mavs more closely at the time than I was even now

I don't think you're qualified to talk about other people's qualifications.

get off your high horse homie and just talk the game instead of getting personal yo

DMAVS41
04-05-2015, 02:13 PM
Huh? I was watching the Mavs more closely at the time than I was even now

I don't think you're qualified to talk about other people's qualifications.

get off your high horse homie and just talk the game instead of getting personal yo

LOL...

Okay...what makes Avery Johnson a good and championship caliber coach. Please don't reference his wins/losses like it matters.

I think it's pretty obvious anyone arguing for Avery as a good coach has an agenda. In this case it's clear...there are Spurs roots and it makes that 06 loss even worse for you as a Spurs fan knowing you guys lost to an inferior team/coach without home court.

How many Mavs games a year during Avery's run did you watch? You were really loading up on league pass watching all the games for the Mavs? I just doubt it...but if so...great.

If so...I'd then question your basketball knowledge calling Avery a good/championship caliber coach. He just wasn't and it should be obvious at this point.

Again, I didn't say he's the worst coach ever. I said he was a shit coach and not championship caliber. You seem to differ there...and no mystery as to why.

SCdac
04-05-2015, 02:28 PM
Please don't reference his wins/losses like it matters.

lol what...You say some of the funniest shit, man. debating with you is hilarious given your love for Dirk. A team's success and failures is correlated with the coach, I think that's fair to say for every team in the league. Avery deserves some credit and some blame for the successes and failures of his teams. That's not outlandish of a statement... at all... But we get it, Dirk had to deal with a shitty coach, shitty roster, shitty matchup, yadda yadda yadda...

DMAVS41
04-05-2015, 02:36 PM
lol what...You say some of the funniest shit, man. debating with you is hilarious given your love for Dirk. A team's success and failures is correlated with the coach, I think that's fair to say for every team in the league. Avery deserves some credit and some blame for the successes and failures of his teams. That's not outlandish of a statement... at all... But we get it, Dirk had to deal with a shitty coach, shitty roster, shitty matchup, yadda yadda yadda...

Because you just got done talking about Nellie and how his style was "whack"...I agree. Well shit...he's won the most games ever.

Avery adopted a top 20 player in his peak/prime with solid supporting casts. (Never said Dirk always had a shitty roster...as usual you straw man)...

And clearly that had a lot to do with winning regular season games. I mean...you run prime Dirk out on the court healthy with some decent help and you are getting around 55 wins plus. So I'm not enamored by that.

When he actually had to do real coaching he failed miserably. He was awful in the 06 final, he was historically awful in the 07 Warriors series, he turned off the players in 08....then when he went to the Nets...he was awful.

Since then he's been out of the game in the studio essentially and only getting attention from down and out college teams.

I'm asking you to defend your position of why Avery was a good coach...or a coach that had it in him to win titles without having ultra all time loaded teams in which coaching doesn't matter.

So while Dirk didn't have "shitty" rosters by any means...he never had the loaded up enough rosters that could have won without having a quality head coach...and Avery just wasn't that.

You talking about his record on the Mavs when literally a guy off the street could have won 50 in 06, 07, and 08 just isn't impressive...

Avery was a good motivator. He got the Mavs to play hard in the regular season. He got them to not go through the motions as a team against bad/average teams. While this coaching quality really matters for wins in the regular season (we don't win 67 without a motivator like Avery in 07) it doesn't do much in the playoffs. In the playoffs against quality teams...you have to be able to make adjustments, know how to get your players off despite certain defenses, you have to know what makes your team tick and do everything you can to keep that part alive (you don't adapt to the other teams style like Avery did so often)...

It's not enough to just get guys to play hard. Avery is the definition of a ceiling coach. He can only take a team so far. Coaching isn't just motivation. As a motivator Avery is great...at least for a stretch (maybe 3 to 5 years)....but as a coach he isn't....

SCdac
04-05-2015, 02:40 PM
He was awful in the 06 final, he was historically awful in the 07 Warriors series, he turned off the players in 08....then when he went to the Nets...he was awful.

Yeah, he wasn't the only one... *cough* Dirk *cough*

DMAVS41
04-05-2015, 02:47 PM
Yeah, he wasn't the only one... *cough* Dirk *cough*

And?

How is that relevant to Avery's coaching? Notice how you always either straw man or throw out red herrings?

It's a sign you can't defend your actual position. Now you are trying to turn this into a debate about Dirk's play. The usual method of debate you employ on here.

Sometimes you just have to call a spade a spade. Dirk was absolutely terrible in the 07 Warriors series. Just a fact.

Just like it's a fact that Avery Johnson was not and is not a championship caliber coach.

Also, don't you think it might hurt your position a little that Dirk's worst series as a pro, in the heart of his prime, came with Avery Johnson coaching? Dirk is the proven all time great here...he did it before, during, and after Avery. What has Avery done without Dirk or really quality teams?

Again you kind of shoot your own argument in the foot here.

On the watch of Avery...the Mavs gave up their lead in the 06 finals and lost to the Warriors in 07. Notice how you don't include Avery in your criticism of the Mavs on that normally? It's always toward Dirk?

Hamtaro CP3KDKG
04-05-2015, 04:06 PM
Dirk was clutch AF in 06. Thru 3 series not many players had better runs Multiple gamewinners in the playoffs Memphis and Phoenix
he out offensed Nash at his peak, Ripped Paus anus apart and they had the best defense IIRC, outplayed Timmy specially down the stretch when Timmy choked and IIRC Dirk blocked a potential gamewinner from Timmy in that series. Clutch defense too

and Avery is one of the worst head coaches ever lol @ anyone callin him decent even.

DMAVS41
04-05-2015, 04:55 PM
Dirk was clutch AF in 06. Thru 3 series not many players had better runs Multiple gamewinners in the playoffs Memphis and Phoenix
he out offensed Nash at his peak, Ripped Paus anus apart and they had the best defense IIRC, outplayed Timmy specially down the stretch when Timmy choked and IIRC Dirk blocked a potential gamewinner from Timmy in that series. Clutch defense too

and Avery is one of the worst head coaches ever lol @ anyone callin him decent even.

I wouldn't say one of the worst ever overall.

Perhaps is one of the worst ever when it comes to adjustments, x's and o's, and managing a game with substitutions and rotations...I've seen very few worse in that regard in my life watching the NBA.

However, he's a master motivator, at least early on...and while that won't get you a title...it will win you like 5 to 10 more games in the regular season vs a coach that doesn't motivate well.

And that is a big enough part of coaching to really note.

masonanddixon
04-05-2015, 09:27 PM
lol SCDac is so mentally ill.

kenny817
04-05-2015, 10:05 PM
He was only watching the Mavs when they played the Spurs

Internet dudes be lying to prove their points smh