NBA Ref bows down to Jordan

[CJ Mustard]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fApM9NhTR2c#t=54s

:oldlol: Did anyone else have the refs in their pocket like Mike? God damn that was pathetic.

[andgar923]

GOAT gonna GOAT :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

[Cleverness]

Ron Harper with the free throw lane violation while arguing:oldlol:

[Young X]

The ref was just acting like that because it was the last game of Jordan's career. :lol

[DonDadda59]

:oldlol: Did anyone else have the refs in their pocket like Mike? God damn that was pathetic.

Jordan FTr (Free throws/FG attempts): .358 career

Kobe FTr: .388 career

Durant FTr: .435 career

LeBron FTr: .429 career

Harden FTr: .547 career

So the answer is every big time scorer who came after him, especially those who played their whole career in the soft as butter modern NBA.

[G0ATbe]

I knew Jordan was ref reliant for his rings but wow:facepalm

Reminds me of when the refs were highfiving heat players during 2012 finals.

[DonDadda59]

I knew Jordan was ref reliant for his rings but wow:facepalm .

If Jordan had gotten the same preferential treatment that James Harden gets now, he would've averaged 34.33 PPG for his career and had a couple of 40 PPG seasons. :lol

[DonDadda59]

So Jordan had the refs pimping for him? :lebronamazed:

Wonder how that factors into FTr. :confusedshrug:

[Beastmode88]

Even the refs were afraid of Mike. :biggums: GOAT gonna GOAT.

[Rose'sACL]

Jordan FTr (Free throws/FG attempts): .358 career

Kobe FTr: .388 career

Durant FTr: .435 career

LeBron FTr: .429 career

Harden FTr: .547 career

So the answer is every big time scorer who came after him, especially those who played their whole career in the soft as butter modern NBA.
what do fg attempts have to do with free throws. are you an idiot? those shots don't count.
harden gets a lot of his points from free throws. those shots don't count so i have no idea how field goals attempts count here.
are you trying to tell me that kobe should have always got more free throws than lebron because he attempted more shots per game than lebron. are you that retarded?

[DonDadda59]

what do fg attempts have to do with free throws. are you an idiot? those shots don't count.

:facepalm

How far did you get in math at school? You know what a ratio is?

[Rose'sACL]

:facepalm

How far did you get in math at school? You know what a ratio is?
ratio is easy. this isn't about maths. this is about how field goals attempt relate to free throw attempts.
tell me that a player who plays like prime kobe should average more FTs than a player like prime lebron just because prime kobe attempted more shots.
answer this to prove that you are not retarded.
the way you play is the only way to determine this type of thing and not number of shots attempted.

[DonDadda59]

ratio is easy. this isn't about maths. this is about how field goals attempt relate to free throw attempts.
tell me that a player who plays like prime kobe should average more FTs than a player like prime lebron just because prime kobe attempted more shots.
answer this to prove that you are not retarded.

I beg to differ sir, this is clearly about maths. Plural.

Thank you for confirming my suspicions about you. :cheers:

[CJ Mustard]

:oldlol: @ this thread turning into a serious discussion.

[Rose'sACL]

I beg to differ sir, this is clearly about maths. Plural.

Thank you for confirming my suspicions about you. :cheers:
clearly hiding from giving any clear relation between number of field goals attempted and FTs.
i though lebron fans were the box watchers and jordan fans were the purists who watch the games.

[DonDadda59]

clearly hiding from giving any clear relation between number of field goals attempted and FTs.
i though lebron fans were the box watchers and jordan fans were the purists who watch the games.

Just so we're clear... you're saying that James Harden in 2015 (7 3s/gm, 18.2 FGA) earns a considerably higher frequency of free throws than Michael Jordan in say... 1987 (0.8 3s/gm, 27.8 FGA) because Jordan was getting preferential treatment from refs? Because Harden (39% of shot attempts from 3) is attacking the basket more than Jordan (0.2% of shot attempts from 3) did?

What exactly are you trying to convey to me besides your limited grasp of the maths? :confusedshrug:

[PejaTheSerbSnip]

Jordan FTr (Free throws/FG attempts): .358 career

Kobe FTr: .388 career

Durant FTr: .435 career

LeBron FTr: .429 career

Harden FTr: .547 career

So the answer is every big time scorer who came after him, especially those who played their whole career in the soft as butter modern NBA.
This is always swept under the rug.

For a player that was supposedly coddled by the officials, his FTR was surprisingly low.

[DonDadda59]

:oldlol: @ this thread turning into a serious discussion.

When life gives you lemons... Maths.

[Rose'sACL]

Just so we're clear... you're saying that James Harden in 2015 (7 3s/gm, 18.2 FGA) earns a considerably higher frequency of free throws than Michael Jordan in say... 1987 (0.8 3s/gm, 27.8 FGA) because Jordan was getting preferential treatment from refs? Because Harden (39% of shot attempts from 3) is attacking the basket more than Jordan (0.2% of shot attempts from 3) did?

What exactly are you trying to convey to me besides your limited grasp of the maths? :confusedshrug:
nicely done. directly comparing to harden who everyone agrees gets too much ref help.
i am not OP. i called you out on your FTr BS which you still have not answered. lebron's way of scoring is a lot different from kobe's but by your logic refs should treat them equally and give them free throws based on field goals attempted.
learn to answer a question like a regular human being and not a politician.

[Kblaze8855]

Thats one of those things you look for signs it was fake. Thats too awful to be real....but it is.

[DonDadda59]

nicely done. directly comparing to harden who everyone agrees gets too much ref help.

Which was my point. :confusedshrug:

All the major scorers who have come after Jordan have gotten a much higher frequency of free throws (AKA 'ref help') than Jordan did in his playing days. A guy like Harden takes almost 40% of his shots from 3 but lives at the FT line.


i am not OP. i called you out on your FTr BS which you still have not answered. lebron's way of scoring is a lot different from kobe's but by your logic refs should treat them equally and give them free throws based on field goals attempted.
learn to answer a question like a regular human being and not a politician.

I have no idea why you're so fixated on Kobe vs LeBron, I could give less than 2 shits about that. You'd expect Bron to get more FTs than Kobe given that he attacks the basket more, so what exactly are you arguing sir? That had nothing to do with my post. If you're looking for a Kobe vs Bron thread, take a DeLorean to 2009.

[Micku]

That was awesome. His last game, no? Some players just have a bad rep with the refs tho. He ain't no A.I:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noakqqng3OQ

I've seen some with Tim Duncan got a little scrap with the refs. I would love to see more of Rasheed tho.