View Full Version : If LeBron played his entire career in the Western Conference..
Joyner82reload
04-05-2015, 06:04 PM
How does it change his career?
2007: Cleveland loses in the 1st round against San Antonio
2011: Miami loses to Dallas in the 2nd round
2012: Miami loses to OKC or SA, they wouldn't have Bosh(he was injured) which they had for the Finals
2013: Miami might win the title, but they would have had to go through Memphis & SA in the 2nd/3rd round. Most people believe the Spurs were the best team in 2013 and not Miami, who knows how that plays out if it's not in the Finals.
2014: They lose to the Spurs in the 2nd round
So he would have at most 1 Finals appearance. Just goes to show how much the weak Eastern Conference has helped LeBron James.
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J Shuttlesworth
04-05-2015, 06:07 PM
It's pretty simple.
2/2 instead of 2/5
rlsmooth775
04-05-2015, 06:08 PM
Durant lost his only finals appearance to a weak east team
Durant lost his only finals appearance to a weak east team
As the favorite as well. :biggums:
FLDFSU
04-05-2015, 06:10 PM
That would also mean he is playing on a Western Conference team you dolt!
TylerOO
04-05-2015, 06:11 PM
Easter Sunday and OP is still thinking of LeBron :roll:
Smook A.
04-05-2015, 06:11 PM
If he was in the Western Conference, he definitely wouldn't have 2 championships right now. In LeBron's career, he's never lost in the 1st round. That would've been different had he been in the West. He also wouldn't have as many finals appearances. Obviously, the West has a lot more depth than the East, so LeBron's whole path would've been extremely tough.
Joyner82reload
04-05-2015, 06:11 PM
Easter Sunday and OP is still thinking of LeBron :roll:
I'm not religious, Easter means nothing to me.
Hamtaro CP3KDKG
04-05-2015, 06:12 PM
Might make the finals one year if teams get injured or something and he plays a shtty East team like most of his playoff career. The West postMJ has just been alot better than the Least. Offensively by a massive margin but defensively theyve been statistically better too
Cocaine80s
04-05-2015, 06:13 PM
He wouldve joined the Spurs and won 7 straight fmvps
dubeta
04-05-2015, 06:14 PM
3-4 rings by now and MUCH better stats since the Western Conference has worse defensive teams.
Therefore would be a top 3 GOAT by now.
T_L_P
04-05-2015, 06:17 PM
3-4 rings by now and MUCH better stats since the Western Conference has worse defensive teams.
Therefore would be a top 3 GOAT by now.
LeBron in the Playoff vs Western teams:
24/9/6 on .546 TS%
Playoff stats overall:
28/8/6 on .578 TS%
Yes, so much better. :facepalm
Hamtaro CP3KDKG
04-05-2015, 06:18 PM
LeBron in the Playoff vs Western teams:
24/9/6 on .546 TS%
Playoff stats overall:
28/8/6 on .578 TS%
Yes, so much better. :facepalm
That scoring difference.....:biggums: :biggums: he prolly turned it over more too
West was better defensively than Least during Brans time which most these kids dont get
Joyner82reload
04-05-2015, 06:18 PM
LeBron in the Playoff vs Western teams:
24/9/6 on .546 TS%
Playoff stats overall:
28/8/6 on .578 TS%
Yes, so much better. :facepalm
Don't bring stats to this discussion. How dare you, reality is meaningless for LeBron tots.
dubeta
04-05-2015, 06:19 PM
LeBron in the Playoff vs Western teams:
24/9/6 on .546 TS%
Playoff stats overall:
28/8/6 on .578 TS%
Yes, so much better. :facepalm
Now look up the East vs West in terms of defensive impact the last decade or so, and show lebrons career stats vs eastern and western teams.
A 5 series sample, in which 3 of those series LeBron was surrounded by garbage players, doesnt tell us anything.
Trollsmasher
04-05-2015, 06:19 PM
He would be playing on a Western team, dummy
Joyner82reload
04-05-2015, 06:22 PM
Now look up the East vs West in terms of defensive impact the last decade or so, and show lebrons career stats vs eastern and western teams.
A 5 series sample, in which 3 of those series LeBron was surrounded by garbage players, doesnt tell us anything.
You mean like the 2011 NBA Finals? With near peak Wade and prime Bosh?
ImKobe
04-05-2015, 06:23 PM
0 titles, loses to Kobe from 08-11 and in 2012.
T_L_P
04-05-2015, 06:23 PM
Now look up the East vs West in terms of defensive impact the last decade or so, and show lebrons career stats vs eastern and western teams.
A 5 series sample, in which 3 of those series LeBron was surrounded by garbage players, doesnt tell us anything.
You're the one who said he has much better stats vs the West, and the stats prove you wrong.
Idiot. :facepalm
dubeta
04-05-2015, 06:24 PM
You mean like the 2011 NBA Finals? With near peak Wade and prime Bosh?
Yup near peak Wade who did nothing in Game 2, threw away Game 4 with the missed clutch FT and inbound pass turnover, left the game early in game 5, and came up small in Game 6 :facepalm
Btw you still didnt specify which team exactly we are adding LeBron to in the West.
dubeta
04-05-2015, 06:25 PM
You're the one who said he has much better stats vs the West, and the stats prove you wrong.
Idiot. :facepalm
For his career, not hand picked games where the entire defensive pressure was on LeBron :oldlol:
Joyner82reload
04-05-2015, 06:27 PM
Yup near peak Wade who did nothing in Game 2, threw away Game 4 with the missed clutch FT and inbound pass turnover, left the game early in game 5, and came up small in Game 6 :facepalm
Btw you still didnt specify which team exactly we are adding LeBron to in the West.
I stated that Cleveland and Miami would be transplanted into the Western Conference, learn to read idiot. And ya, Wade was so much garbage in those finals. How dare he only average 27/7/6 on 55% shooting. LeBron's career stats are 27/7/7 on 50% shooting, I guess his entire career is trash.
T_L_P
04-05-2015, 06:27 PM
For his career, not hand picked games where the entire defensive pressure was on LeBron :oldlol:
30 odd games are handpicked?
You're the one who uses Kobe's Finals games to show how ineffective he is against the East.
You thought Bran's Finals stats were much better than that and now you're backtracking.
:oldlol:
dubeta
04-05-2015, 06:29 PM
30 odd games are handpicked?
You're the one who uses Kobe's Finals games to show how ineffective he is against the East.
You thought Bran's Finals stats were much better than that and now you're backtracking.
:oldlol:
They are still better than Kobes, whats your point?
But Lebron has been better against the West against his career than the East
dubeta
04-05-2015, 06:30 PM
Joyner meltdown :oldlol:
Joyner82reload
04-05-2015, 06:30 PM
They are still better than Kobes, whats your point?
But Lebron has been better against the West against his career than the East
No he hasn't, his stats are equal against both conferences. While his stats are far worse vs the top 4 teams in the West each season. When LeBron faces elite teams, which are generally only found in the West outside of the team he has been on in the East, his performance falls off markedly.
T_L_P
04-05-2015, 06:32 PM
They are still better than Kobes, whats your point?
But Lebron has been better against the West against his career than the East
See: Playoff stats vs the West / Playoff stats vs the East
See: Finals record
See: Top 2 Finals meltdown in NBA history
See: Losing Finals MVP to positional opponent
Trollsmasher
04-05-2015, 06:33 PM
No he hasn't, his stats are equal against both conferences. While his stats are far worse vs the top 4 teams in the West each season. When LeBron faces elite teams, which are generally only found in the West outside of the team he has been on in the East, his performance falls off markedly.
post away with dem stats
dubeta
04-05-2015, 06:34 PM
See: Playoff stats vs the West / Playoff stats vs the East
See: Finals record
See: Top 2 Finals meltdown in NBA history
See: Losing Finals MVP to positional opponent
Only time LeBron ever lost a Finals as a 1st option was to a vastly superior team that no other great would have won instead.
Problem?
qrich
04-05-2015, 06:55 PM
What team are we moving to the East from the West? Has to be a playoff side, maybe the Spurs?
But really, transplanting the Cavs/Heat to the West, and LeBron ends up with 1 final appearance, and 1 ring. Which, hey, is just one less ring than he has now.
Mr.Kite
04-05-2015, 07:03 PM
Semi finals virgin
poido123
04-05-2015, 07:06 PM
No titles and 1 or 2 MVPs
SaltyMeatballs
04-05-2015, 07:09 PM
No titles and 1 MVP
Derrick Rose.
Lebron23
04-05-2015, 07:10 PM
He's going to have better supporting casts.
Mr.Kite
04-05-2015, 07:15 PM
He's going to have better supporting casts.
More than he has in the last 5 years!?!?
TripleA
04-05-2015, 07:16 PM
Same amount of titles because his teams beat the best western conference team to win the title. So how does being in the west make a difference again.
No_Look604
04-05-2015, 07:16 PM
Can I be brutally honest? Lebron would be playing in the NFL right now :oldlol:
Lebron23
04-05-2015, 07:17 PM
More than he has in the last 5 years!?!?
Lebron wasted 7 years of his prime playing on an average team. He rightfully deserved a good supporting casts in 2010. He's always been a great player.
Bandito
04-05-2015, 07:18 PM
Lebron got owned by a role player in old Shawn Marion.How them tears taste :lol
Hamtaro CP3KDKG
04-05-2015, 07:22 PM
Can I be brutally honest? Lebron would be playing in the NFL right now :oldlol:
This is a good point. Hed be switchin divisions right and left would be on NFC south right now
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