Where does Jordan rank all time as a perimeter defender?

[SouBeachTalents]

How would rank him compared to the likes of Payton, Pippen, Frazier, Michael Cooper, Dennis Johnson, Moncrief, etc?

[Hamtaro CP3KDKG]

AK
Tony Allen
Pistons Rodman
Cooper
MJ
Pippen
DJ
Artest
Iggy
Battier
Kobe
Glove or Kidd
Moncrief
Pressey
Manu


something like dat

[1987_Lakers]

AK
Tony Allen
Pistons Rodman
Cooper
MJ
Pippen
DJ
Artest
Iggy
Battier
Kobe
Glove or Kidd
Moncrief
Pressey
Manu


something like dat

:roll:

replace him with Bowen.

[dubeta]

behind lebron

[Hamtaro CP3KDKG]

:roll:

replace him with Bowen.
Nah Manu was the better allaround defender

[Jacks3]

Jordan was so good defensively that his team got better on that end after he retired for the first time. :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

[pauk]

Are you talking about:

1. Strictly perimeter defense, as in how good only his perimeter defense was, meaning literally guarding only the perimeter, PGs and/or SGs.... this is about lateral quickness, locking somebody down like a magnet, great hands, fullcourt pressure, reading passing lanes, ball denial, always contesting, anticipation, not gambling for steals/blocks hence leaving your man (smart defense) etc....

2. Versatility/Allround defense as a perimeter player, meaning ability to help defense allover the field due to the combination of the above + size/strength that allows you of guarding PG-SG-SF very well and PF perhaps... hell, why not C occasionally aswell, if you are capable.... This is about everything above but also strength/size....

Having both of those above at an elite level like say Pippen makes you a more impactful defender overall i think... so i would say Pippen > Jordan.... but if you talk about strictly perimeter defense Jordan was just as good as Pippen there i think, arguably better... so i mean it depends on what your criteria is here...

As far as those others go (Cooper, Frazier, Payton, Dennis & Moncrief) he was just as good / arguably better at perimeter defense.... i think only Payton had better perimeter defense really, he was a bit more intense.... but Jordan was somewhat more versatile than all of those, he could guard the bigger guys a bit better.... so i would say overall he was a better overall defender than all of them, except maybe Payton impact wise, because that guy had the most ridicilous perimeter defense i ever seen in my life....

TL;DR:

Just my opinion....

Strictly perimeter defense:

1. Payton
2. Pippen/Jordan
3. Cooper
4. Moncrief
5. Dennis

Overall/Allround defense:

1. Pippen
2. Jordan
3. Payton/Cooper
4. Moncrief
5. Dennis

(only those guys you mentioned)

[SHAQisGOAT]

Got him as probably the #2 GOAT defensive SG...

PG:
Payton
Frazier
DJ (more of a SG at his peak though, combo-guard)

SG:
Moncrief
Jordan
Cooper

SF:
Pippen
Rodman
Bowen/Gus Johnson


Top5 overall perimeter defenders in no particular order, I'd probably say: Moncrief, Pippen, Payton, Jordan and Rodman.

[Smoke117]

Nah Manu was the better allaround defender

He absolutely was.