Why is racism towards whites ignored by blacks?

[Joyner82reload]

I'll give you an example, a random upper class white male dressed in a suit walks through Compton around midnight. What do you think will happen to said individual?

[L.Kizzle]

The same thing would happen to a black guy in a suit walking around "Compton."

Lol, I don't go to certain places at night too.

[sweggeh]

Racism by Whites against Blacks is a million times more dangerous than racism towards whites from blacks, especially in America. This is for a couple of reasons.

1) Whites have the power, they run the country, the institutions, basically everything. At this moment, black people do not have the power to make their racism dangerous in any way, unless we are talking about isolated incidents of violence or anything like that. White racism towards blacks can hold back millions of people, while the most black racism against whites is beat a couple of white guys in the wrong place at the wrong time.

2) White racism towards blacks is historically a very sensitive situation. Its like saying why can Jews make fun of Germany but Germans can't make fun of Jews. Context makes something much more sinister.

[SugarHill]

The same thing would happen to a black guy in a suit walking around "Compton."

Lol, I don't go to certain places at night too.

Nah, they'll see that you're black and your wealth will a non-factor because all black people are one and never fvck each other up. :applause:

[L.Kizzle]

Hey, how about this scenerio?

White guy accidently walks in a Black Panther meeting.

Black guy accidently walks into a KKK meeting.

Who makes it out alive ...

[IcanzIIravor]

The same thing would happen to a black guy in a suit walking around "Compton."

Lol, I don't go to certain places at night too.

Exactly. Pretty naive scenario from OP.

If anything, chances are nothing happens to the white guy because the people in the neighborhood would suspect a setup, while the black guy in that scenario would get wrecked and robbed.

[Joyner82reload]

Hey, how about this scenerio?

White guy accidently walks in a Black Panther meeting.

Black guy accidently walks into a KKK meeting.

Who makes it out alive ...

In today's society? The KKK is long gone, they're nothing but a figurehead at this point. When is the last time a black man was lynched?

[L.Kizzle]

In today's society? The KKK is long gone, they're nothing but a figurehead at this point. When is the last time a black man was lynched?
Last week.

[Joyner82reload]

Racism by Whites against Blacks is a million times more dangerous than racism towards whites from blacks, especially in America. This is for a couple of reasons.

1) Whites have the power, they run the country, the institutions, basically everything. At this moment, black people do not have the power to make their racism dangerous in any way, unless we are talking about isolated incidents of violence or anything like that. White racism towards blacks can hold back millions of people, while the most black racism against whites is beat a couple of white guys in the wrong place at the wrong time.

2) White racism towards blacks is historically a very sensitive situation. Its like saying why can Jews make fun of Germany but Germans can't make fun of Jews. Context makes something much more sinister.

LOL @ comparing slavery from 200 years ago to mass genocide that our grandparents were alive for.

As for the dangers of each, you're wrong. Black racism towards white people is inherently violent crime, which is far more dangerous.

[Im Still Ballin]

I don't believe in races

I believe in individuals.

[Joyner82reload]

Last week.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Donald

Try 34 years ago

[Godzuki]

Racism by Whites against Blacks is a million times more dangerous than racism towards whites from blacks, especially in America. This is for a couple of reasons.

1) Whites have the power, they run the country, the institutions, basically everything. At this moment, black people do not have the power to make their racism dangerous in any way, unless we are talking about isolated incidents of violence or anything like that. White racism towards blacks can hold back millions of people, while the most black racism against whites is beat a couple of white guys in the wrong place at the wrong time.

2) White racism towards blacks is historically a very sensitive situation. Its like saying why can Jews make fun of Germany but Germans can't make fun of Jews. Context makes something much more sinister.

do you even live in America? :facepalm

its way more dangerous for whites to be walking around in a black neighborhood than blacks in a white by and large. i've been to some very white, racist areas and they don't really even fukk with you unless you're doing something like hitting on their women or some shit like that.

but in black neighborhoods, you'll get sucker punched or fukked with just for being white.

and to answer the thread title, its because black people by and large feel white people owe them for much more egregious sins so they're allowed to be racist vs whites. other part of the problem is politically correct whities think the same way, and allow themselves to be victimized by double standards of today.

[L.Kizzle]

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Donald

Try 34 years ago
Guy got lynched like last week in Alabama I believe. Unless it was a fake story.

[Knoe Itawl]

I'll give you an example, a random upper class white male dressed in a suit walks through Compton around midnight. What do you think will happen to said individual?

Why do whites ignore the overall history of racism against blacks in this country? Blacks would have to brutalize white people and enslave them, and then have Jim Crow laws and all the rest of it before they could even SNIFF being close to the racism they've experienced by whites in this country. There's just no comparison if you have any ability to think critically as opposed to race bait.

Why do they ignore the PROVEN cases of racist white cops (San Francisco, florida where there were KKK cops, Ferguson where it was proven that the police dept was systematically racist, etc.). Do you know what that means to have a police dept, where officers can take your life, frame you, etc. be PROVEN to be corrupted by racism? Why ignore that?

Why ignore all of these frat college incidents with nooses, and talking about lynching black people and all of that? When these kids grow up to be the hiring managers that refuse to give blacks jobs, or racist cops, or politicians who support discriminatory policies, etc. etc.

Why do so many whites ignore the fact that a white person is 84% more likely to be killed by a white person than a black person? That whites lead in family annihilators, murder suicides, spree killers, pedophiles, and on and on? Instead, a white bigot will focus on black crime rates while ignoring the skeletons in their closets.

Why ignore the fact that whole towns in the midwest are being consumed by meth, while tows in the Northeast (Vermont especially) are being devastated by heroin addiction?

Why do so many whites ignore this type of thing?

By the way, I consider myself a humanist in that I believe in treating all people with respect and trying to reach accord by communication and education and listening.

I just get tired of ignorant whites pushing aside their sins and issues to whine about black people when in reality we ALL should consider our flaws and admit them and try to figure out what we can do about them instead of playing this race game.

[Bandito]

Slavery was not racist you dumbass. To them slaves were a product to be used. Slavery has existed forever its that in this case it was black people predominately. In Old Rome the slaves were mostly white not black because the slaves came from conquered cities and villages not Africa.

Plus most of the slave traders were African black. Black people were selling black people. Think about that.

[Godzuki]

Guy got lynched like last week in Alabama I believe. Unless it was a fake story.


and how often does that happen vs white dudes getting jumped, suckered, mugged, etc. for being white around black areas?>

i swear its ridiculous how people on this site never account for regularity of things to make their points :facepalm its like when y'all bring up white or azn school shooters to pretend like they're shooting at each other just as much as black people are :facepalm

[L.Kizzle]

and how often does that happen vs white dudes getting jumped, suckered, mugged, etc. for being white around black areas?>

i swear its ridiculous how people on this site never account for regularity of things to make their points :facepalm its like when y'all bring up white or azn school shooters to pretend like they're shooting at each other just as much as black people are :facepalm
Calm down, I never said blacks don't do their fair share.

[SugarHill]

Slavery was not racist you dumbass. To them slaves were a product to be used. Slavery has existed forever its that in this case it was black people predominately. In Old Rome the slaves were mostly white not black because the slaves came from conquered cities and villages not Africa.

Plus most of the slave traders were African black. Black people were selling black people. Think about that.
jesus christ

[red1]

jesus christ
:roll:

[Knoe Itawl]

Why do whites ignore the overall history of racism against blacks in this country? Blacks would have to brutalize white people and enslave them, and then have Jim Crow laws and all the rest of it before they could even SNIFF being close to the racism they've experienced by whites in this country. There's just no comparison if you have any ability to think critically as opposed to race bait.

Why do they ignore the PROVEN cases of racist white cops (San Francisco, florida where there were KKK cops, Ferguson where it was proven that the police dept was systematically racist, etc.). Do you know what that means to have a police dept, where officers can take your life, frame you, etc. be PROVEN to be corrupted by racism? Why ignore that?

Why ignore all of these frat college incidents with nooses, and talking about lynching black people and all of that? When these kids grow up to be the hiring managers that refuse to give blacks jobs, or racist cops, or politicians who support discriminatory policies, etc. etc.

Why do so many whites ignore the fact that a white person is 84% more likely to be killed by a white person than a black person? That whites lead in family annihilators, murder suicides, spree killers, pedophiles, and on and on? Instead, a white bigot will focus on black crime rates while ignoring the skeletons in their closets.

Why ignore the fact that whole towns in the midwest are being consumed by meth, while tows in the Northeast (Vermont especially) are being devastated by heroin addiction?

Why do so many whites ignore this type of thing?

By the way, I consider myself a humanist in that I believe in treating all people with respect and trying to reach accord by communication and education and listening.

I just get tired of ignorant whites pushing aside their sins and issues to whine about black people when in reality we ALL should consider our flaws and admit them and try to figure out what we can do about them instead of playing this race game.

Gee guess some of you ignorant fukks must've missed this

[Godzuki]

Calm down, I never said blacks don't do their fair share.


it just drives me nuts how often i see people making arguments here but never accounting for regularity, and constantly using rare instances to justify to much more common.

there is just so much flawed logic people use in their justifications regarding so many points they make here, and not just with this topic...its as ridiculous as the anti israel arguers never owning up to Hama's usually starting provocations but just guilt trippinig the israel retaliation parts :facepalm

a lot of mf'ers here just have a poor sense of reasoning/logic in their arguments. it drives me nuts since the flaws are very obvious in the points they constantly make.

[sweggeh]

Bandito is a legitimate retard.

[Joyner82reload]

Gee guess some of you ignorant fukks must've missed this

No, I'm in class right now and don't have the time to write out a lengthy reply which will cripple your stance. I will do it after class.

[Im Still Ballin]

I was rolling with my homies and we discussed this and we as blacks definitely get the sharp end of the knife... I don't know why these white boys keep frontin' like it ain't so..

[Bandito]

Shhhh don't try and say slavery wasn't a racial issue and didn't affect race relations in this country because that might be a new all time record for stupid on ish
Slavery was not a product of no racial issue. They were using indians to do their work and when they needed more help they bought the next thing. Africans were the best next thing.

If you dum dum read history books you would see slavery in other countries, the people weren't even black.

In US it became an issue but if you go to other places like the Hispanic America that racial issue is non existent even though slaves were predominately black there too.


Heck where I live black people were the slaves and we dont see the racial issue that you see in the states. The racial issue you see in the states go deeper than that mostly because you f*cktards of olde decided that dividing people based on color was such a good thing.

If instead of seeing the differences and just seeing the similarities it wouldnt be so bad. But what can you expect of an American :lol

[Joyner82reload]

Wait, do black people believe that African slaves were forced into slavery due to their race? :roll:

Holy shit, am I being trolled? Additionally, how do you think said slaves arrived here in the 1st place? Do you think they were captured by white slavers running around with nets in the African bush?

[SugarHill]

No, I'm in class right now and don't have the time to write out a lengthy reply which will cripple your stance. I will do it after class.
cripple his stance that everyone should be held accountable? :roll:

[red1]

Slavery was not a product of no racial issue. They were using indians to do their work and when they needed more help they bought the next thing. Africans were the best next thing.

If you dum dum read history books you would see slavery in other countries, the people weren't even black.

In US it became an issue but if you go to other places like the Hispanic America that racial issue is non existent even though slaves were predominately black there too.


Heck where I live black people were the slaves and we dont see the racial issue that you see in the states. The racial issue you see in the states go deeper than that mostly because you f*cktards of olde decided that dividing people based on color was such a good thing.
In the states the reasoning that drove the entire machine of slavery was the concept whites held at the time that blacks were inferior. That is the textbook definition of racism.

[SugarHill]

Wait, do black people believe that African slaves were forced into slavery due to their race? :roll:

Holy shit, am I being trolled? Additionally, how do you think said slaves arrived here in the 1st place? Do you think they were captured by white slavers running around with nets in the African bush?

Are you saying that there was no aspect of racism during slavery? Really. This is your stance?

[Im Still Ballin]

In the states the reasoning that drove the entire machine of slavery was the concept whites held at the time that blacks were inferior. That is the textbook definition of racism.
:cheers:

Crackers trying to twist the narrative

We're the victims not the whites

[Joyner82reload]

In the states the reasoning that drove the entire machine of slavery was the concept whites held at the time that blacks were inferior. That is the textbook definition of racism.

No, no it was not. That was the excuse for it being tolerable, the reasoning behind it was free labor. Plain and simple. And Africans were most readily available at the time due to their primitive lifestyle.

[mehyaM24]

Why do whites ignore the overall history of racism against blacks in this country? Blacks would have to brutalize white people and enslave them, and then have Jim Crow laws and all the rest of it before they could even SNIFF being close to the racism they've experienced by whites in this country. There's just no comparison if you have any ability to think critically as opposed to race bait.

Why do they ignore the PROVEN cases of racist white cops (San Francisco, florida where there were KKK cops, Ferguson where it was proven that the police dept was systematically racist, etc.). Do you know what that means to have a police dept, where officers can take your life, frame you, etc. be PROVEN to be corrupted by racism? Why ignore that?

Why ignore all of these frat college incidents with nooses, and talking about lynching black people and all of that? When these kids grow up to be the hiring managers that refuse to give blacks jobs, or racist cops, or politicians who support discriminatory policies, etc. etc.

Why do so many whites ignore the fact that a white person is 84% more likely to be killed by a white person than a black person? That whites lead in family annihilators, murder suicides, spree killers, pedophiles, and on and on? Instead, a white bigot will focus on black crime rates while ignoring the skeletons in their closets.

Why ignore the fact that whole towns in the midwest are being consumed by meth, while tows in the Northeast (Vermont especially) are being devastated by heroin addiction?

Why do so many whites ignore this type of thing?

By the way, I consider myself a humanist in that I believe in treating all people with respect and trying to reach accord by communication and education and listening.

I just get tired of ignorant whites pushing aside their sins and issues to whine about black people when in reality we ALL should consider our flaws and admit them and try to figure out what we can do about them instead of playing this race game.

you talk about "skeletons in the closet" that so-called white people have, yet these same things you attribute them to can also be attributed to so-called black people. south african wars, slavery, genocide(rwhanda), rape, pillaging, etc.

many afro-centrists love to claim they're the original egyptians - if that's the case, they sure as hell better own up to snatching hebrew isralites and enslaving them. then again, some so called black people think they were the original hebrews, so they really just enslaved their own kind.

i agree with your last few sentences, but i don't think you truly do for typing the bullshit above.

[Godzuki]

In the states the reasoning that drove the entire machine of slavery was the concept whites held at the time that blacks were inferior. That is the textbook definition of racism.


what about azn's and indians? :confusedshrug:

[mehyaM24]

cripple his stance that everyone should be held accountable? :roll:
add something to the convo insteead of leaching off others posts. textbook powerglove. bitch ass racist.

[Im Still Ballin]

SugarHill is a white boy FYI

[Joyner82reload]

SugarHill is a white boy FYI

the term white boy implies implicit racism, congratulations. colored boy.

[SugarHill]

you talk about "skeletons in the closet" that so-called white people have, yet these same things you attribute them to can also be attributed to so-called black people. south african wars, slavery, genocide(rwhanda), rape, pillaging, etc.

many afro-centrists love to claim they're the original egyptians - if that's the case, they sure as hell better own up to snatching hebrew isralites and enslaving them. then again, some so called black people think they were the original hebrews, so they really just enslaved their own kind.

i agree with your last few sentences, but i don't think you truly do for typing the bullshit above.

They're mostly extremists that do not represent most people. How is that relevant? They're mocked.

[Im Still Ballin]

the term white boy implies implicit racism, congratulations. colored boy.
stfu cracker jack

[mehyaM24]

They're mostly extremists that do not represent most people. How is that relevant? They're mocked.
you don't agree that the original egyptians and hebrews were so-called black??? on your other accounts, you don't seem to think so. :oldlol:

not like that takes away from my original point (above the bold). so-called blacks, throughout history, have done the same shit so-called whites did, yet so-called whites are the race being called "devils". hilarious.

[SugarHill]

you don't agree that the original egyptians and hebrews were so-called black??? on your other accounts, you don't seem to think so.

Quit being silly with that shit, man:whatever:

[Joyner82reload]

Are you saying that there was no aspect of racism during slavery? Really. This is your stance?

Racism was a bi-product of slavery and mostly used as a coping mechanism for the heinous acts being performed. The same sh!t goes on today in wars, just look at Iraq/Afghanistan. The entire culture is perceived to be savage/archaic committing terrible acts of violence without just cause. This makes us feel better when we accidentally blow up a building that had 50 civilians inside of it. Same thing with Vietnam. Same thing will occur with North Korea if it ever comes to it. So on and so on.

Blacks were never enslaved due to their race. It could have just as easily been any other race or culture of people and the same things would have occurred, just under a different premise. The fact of the matter is that slave trade was rampant in Africa from villages capturing and enslaving other slaves, then selling them for profit.

[mehyaM24]

Quit being silly with that shit, man:whatever:
answer the question, scrub.

[Joyner82reload]

stfu cracker jack

oh man, that really hurts my feelings. taking me back to owning land and people :oldlol:

[SugarHill]

answer the question, scrub.
What question? I already told that shit was stupid.


oh man, that really hurts my feelings. taking me back to owning land and people :oldlol:
louie :lol

[mehyaM24]

What question? I already told that shit was stupid.

pc bastard.

anyway, i brought that up mostly because knoeitawl believes it - at least the egyptian part. for all that bs he typed, guy better own up to his forefathers sins & blood shed as well. :confusedshrug:

[ace23]

In today's society? The KKK is long gone, they're nothing but a figurehead at this point. When is the last time a black man was lynched?
KKK is still active in several US towns.

[Im Still Ballin]

KKK is still active in several US towns.
true cuz

me and my boys fo shonot ought to pop up in dose towns

holler

[Knoe Itawl]

you talk about "skeletons in the closet" that so-called white people have, yet these same things you attribute them to can also be attributed to so-called black people. south african wars, slavery, genocide(rwhanda), rape, pillaging, etc.

many afro-centrists love to claim they're the original egyptians - if that's the case, they sure as hell better own up to snatching hebrew isralites and enslaving them. then again, some so called black people think they were the original hebrews, so they really just enslaved their own kind.

i agree with your last few sentences, but i don't think you truly do for typing the bullshit above.

The point is that white bigots (which I think you just may be based on your getting offended by what I pointed out) loooooooove to disparage black people while ignoring the skeletons in their own closets. I can admit that human beings have skeletons in their closets. I pointed out what I did because someone like the OP will never acknoledge (or even know about) what I typed because they're too busy feeling smugly superior in their whiteness.

White people's shyt stinks too. A LOT. So top pretending it doesn't, and stop trying to deflect attention way from it by trying to degrade and dehumanize black people.

[mehyaM24]

The point is that white bigots (which I think you just may be based on your getting offended by what I pointed out) loooooooove to disparage black people while ignoring the skeletons in their own closets. I can admit that human beings have skeletons in their closets. I pointed out what I did because someone like the OP will never acknoledge (or even know about) what I typed because they're too busy feeling smugly superior in their whiteness.

White people's shyt stinks too. A LOT. So top pretending it doesn't, and stop trying to deflect attention way from it by trying to degrade and dehumanize black people.
if by defecting you mean illuminating the harsh realities that are rarely brought up in these discussions, then yes, i am guilty as charged.

everybody knows what the so-called whites did pre civil rights/slavery era. its almost guaranteed to be mentioned in these kind of topics. all of this is common knowledge.

the fact is, its rarely if ever countered with the flipside of that coin because people in general are freaking oblivious to history.

i'm neither white nor a bigot. i'm merely calling a spade a spade - and for whatever reason, its making you upset.

[ace23]

you talk about "skeletons in the closet" that so-called white people have, yet these same things you attribute them to can also be attributed to so-called black people. south african wars, slavery, genocide(rwhanda), rape, pillaging, etc.
And these instances of violence have little to no effect on racial inequality in the States today, so what's your point? What the hell do these have to do with America fam?

[The Iron Sheik]

Plus most of the slave traders were African black. Black people were selling black people. Think about that.

what relevance does that hold to slavery in america? people always say this as if it means anything. was that supposed to be some sort of consolidation?

[Joyner82reload]

And these instances of violence have little to no effect on racial inequality in the States today, so what's your point?

Care to discuss the LA, Michael Brown, or Black power movement riots?

[mehyaM24]

And these instances of violence have little to no effect on racial inequality in the States today, so what's your point?
you do realize so-called black africans sold off their people during the atlantic slave trade, right?

[Dr Seuss]

what relevance does that hold to slavery in america? people always say this as if it means anything. was that supposed to be some sort of consolidation?

i think he just meant slavery isnt inherently racist. it was us shitty americans that cultivated that path.

[ace23]

Care to discuss the LA, Michael Brown, or Black power movement riots?
You're not comparing these riots to 400+ years of slavery, degradation, and legalized discrimination.

You're not.

[mehyaM24]

what relevance does that hold to slavery in america? people always say this as if it means anything. was that supposed to be some sort of consolidation?that everyone, in the history of humanity, had slaves.

yes, including so-called black people who in-turn, whine about it today.

[Joyner82reload]

You're not comparing these riots to 400+ years of slavery, degradation, and legalized discrimination.

You're not.

Newsflash, you're not african. You didn't experience the pain and hardships of slavery. Just about every class of people at some point in time have experienced oppression whether due to race, religion, gender, etc. Slavery was never about race, once again it was about free labor. And the African slave trade(BY AFRICAN's) made slaves readily available for purchase by other countries. Maybe you need a history lesson, but the african slave trade did not start or end with america and the atlantic. You think the Atlantic slave trade was bad? You should look up the Arab slave trade, which has twice the numbers and the men were castrated to prevent them from breeding. Alas despite the atrocities that were committed for attaining free labor, you should be thankful slavery occurred. If it had not, you would not be having this discussion with me and would be living in Africa.

[RightToCensor]

This dude just doesn't get it. It's like he never studied (let alone learned) anything about Slavery.

Our grandparent's grandparents experienced slavery.

Our grandparents experienced segregation.

We are currently living in a world of home-grown racists.

It's ****ing sick, you are ****ing stupid, this thread is ****ing retarded, and people arguing that slavery was nothing need to be ****ing hung.

[Joyner82reload]

This dude just doesn't get it. It's like he never studied (let alone learned) anything about Slavery.

Our grandparent's grandparents experienced slavery.

Our grandparents experienced segregation.

We are currently living in a world of home-grown racists.

It's ****ing sick, you are ****ing stupid, this thread is ****ing retarded, and people arguing that slavery was nothing need to be ****ing hung.

The ignorance....so cringeworthy

Every problem black america experiences today is due to other blacks. Period. We just elected a half black president...jesus christ

[Knoe Itawl]

Care to discuss the LA, Michael Brown, or Black power movement riots?

Care to address any of the things that I mentioned in my first page response to you coward?

White bigot logic - when white people commit heinous acts, that's an example of INDIVIDUAL behavior. Also, white people should be judged as individuals

When black people commit heinous acts, that is indicative of black people as a WHOLE. Also, black people should be judged as a whole by the actions of one, or a few.

[RightToCensor]

The ignorance....so cringeworthy

Every problem black america experiences today is due to other blacks. Period. We just elected a half black president...jesus christ
If you're arguing that every problem is due to other blacks, then every solution much must be a result of a white man. What the ****? If that isn't the dumbest shit I've ever seen.

You are so ****ing stupid, I can't fathom how stupid you look. If you have a problem then you have a ****ing problem, it doesn't matter on race, gender, or sexuality. I can have a black man rob me for my phone then a white man rob me for my wallet, but I can't blame a specific race for everything, if I get robbed then I get robbed. Every black man doesn't eat chicken, eat watermelon, or has food stamps. Stop being so stupid and simple-minded. You are literally the dumbest person I have ever seen on this website, you argue the dumbest shit and support your opinions with the dumbest explanations. Just ****ing stop it, you were a nobody before you started this dumbass gimmick and you'll be a nobody when the mods ban your ass.

I'm not gonna bother to respond to whatever dumb shit you post after this because I know you will say something stupid. Just let this marinate in your brain, you need to rethink your life and thinking habits because you look like the biggest retard on this website (and there are a lot of them).

[Knoe Itawl]

if by defecting you mean illuminating the harsh realities that are rarely brought up in these discussions, then yes, i am guilty as charged.

everybody knows what the so-called whites did pre civil rights/slavery era. its almost guaranteed to be mentioned in these kind of topics. all of this is common knowledge.

the fact is, its rarely if ever countered with the flipside of that coin because people in general are freaking oblivious to history.

i'm neither white nor a bigot. i'm merely calling a spade a spade - and for whatever reason, its making you upset.

You ignored everything I wrote in my initial post, and until you address the points I made, I'm done with your deflecting ass.

Also, I love how you say "pre civil rights/slavery" era as if there isn't a mountain of evidence that institutionalized racism STILL exists in this country today. Apparently, you're so stupid that you think that 400+ years of a mentality in a country can possibly be entirely eradicated in only 50 something years.

You're an ignorant bigot who apparently has some sort of chip on your shoulder about black people, but not white behavior. It's always interesting to see how many bigots like the NBA/NBA players. It makes no sense.

Like Joyner sucking off Durant. If I truly disliked and was bigoted towards a race I wouldn't make exceptions for athletes/entertainers. Truly sick warped people that think this way.

[mehyaM24]

You ignored everything I wrote in my initial post, and until you address the points I made, I'm done with your deflecting ass.

Also, I love how you say "pre civil rights/slavery" era as if there isn't a mountain of evidence that institutionalized racism STILL exists in this country today. Apparently, you're so stupid that you think that 400+ years of a mentality in a country can possibly be entirely eradicated in only 50 something years.

actually, i agree that everyone has skeletons in their closet. i merely pointed out so-called blacks demons to counter your affinity for so-called white people & their evil history. its convenient you bring up "institutionalized racism" yet want to brush off africans selling their people to americans. hell, africa still partakes in slavery.

its just me trying to berate so-called blacks, though. :oldlol:

i'm a realist who isn't mentally enslaved with being inferior to ANY race or creed. i'm my own boss. i make my own decisions. if that makes me a bigot, **** it. :confusedshrug:

[Knoe Itawl]

i didn't. i agree that everyone has skeletons in their closet. i merely pointed out so-called black people's demons to counter your affinity for so-called white people & their evil history.



how convenient you bring up institutionalized racism yet want to brush off africans selling their people to americans.

its just me trying to berate so-called blacks, though. :oldlol:



i'm a realist who isn't mentally enslaved with being inferior to any race or creed. i'm my own boss. i make my own decisions. if that makes me a bigot, **** it.

1. No one brushed off anything. I think it's very telling that you had no issue with the OP WHICH IS WHAT I WAS RESPONDING TO, but instead chose to focus on my reply to his bigotry. Tells me all I need to know about you.

Blacks selling other blacks into slavery has nothing to do with my initial point. Obviously you just have a desire to talk about that or something. But it's irrelevant to my initial post in this thread which was responding to joyner asking about why blacks ignore blah blah blah. I responded with why do whites ignore certain race based issues and you had a problem with THAT and not Joyner's OP. I wonder why? Oh wait I know why, because you have a chip on your shoulder about black people. yet you like the NBA. Which makes you a sick fukk.

3. Actually, yes it is. Because you're a bigot. At least stand proud and admit what you are. I hate cowards who pretend that they aren't and that they're just "telling it how it is" instead of owning it.

[mehyaM24]

blah blah blah

everything i've said is correlated with the op, and where this discussion has delved to.

you're upset - and that's ok. that means what i said hit a nerve and marinated within you. the truth tends to hurt.

[Knoe Itawl]

I have nothing to add because I'm a simple minded bigot.

True. True.

[mehyaM24]

me: i agree, everyone has skeletons in their closet
mentally weak person: racism, racism, racism. i'm a foot soldier!!!

tl;dr version

[The Iron Sheik]

that everyone, in the history of humanity, had slaves.

yes, including so-called black people who in-turn, whine about it today.

that's like me saying that no murder can be racially motivated because millions of people are murdered for reasons that have nothing to do with race

[The Iron Sheik]

i think he just meant slavery isnt inherently racist. it was us shitty americans that cultivated that path.

that's fine, but it's an irrelevant point because i'm not concerned with slavery as it relates to being a crime against humanity. i'm talking about slavery in the united states of america specifically

[mehyaM24]

that's like me saying that no murder can be racially motivated because millions of people are murdered for reasons that have nothing to do with race
not really, but you're welcome to think that. :confusedshrug:

[The Iron Sheik]

not really, but you're welcome to think that.

so does that mean that AMERICAN (key word) slavery and the jim crow that followed was not racially motivated?

[daily]

everything i've said is correlated with the op, and where this discussion has delved to.

you're upset - and that's ok. that means what i said hit a nerve and marinated within you. the truth tends to hurt.

Typical Knoe taking Ls left and right

To the OP's question the reason blacks ignore racism towards whites is because whites ignore it. Blacks racism is towards whites is mostly dismissed by white people because blacks by and large find more ways to set themselves back socially than any other race.

Blacks suffered horrible atrocities as have other groups but it's time to move on and stop using it as a crutch. You want somebody to take you serious then start acting like it

[Knoe Itawl]

me: i agree, everyone has skeletons in their closet
mentally weak person: racism, racism, racism. i'm a foot soldier!!!

tl;dr version

op: some race baiting thread which indicates their inner bigotry
Knoe: responds to race baiting OP
MehyaM24: does not condemn OP for his race baiting, instead attacks Knoe's response to said race baiting.

Conclusion - MehyaM24 is a bigot with a chip on his shoulder against black people since he failed to attack Joyner's idiocy and instead focused on the response to it.

[mehyaM24]

so does that mean that AMERICAN (key word) slavery and the jim crow that followed was not racially motivated?
my original point just means there were various parts of the world, at the time, who also partook in slavery. including a race of people whose race of people whine about it today.

there's really no point in asking "what about america's slavery???" when many parts of the world participated in slavery att. it was actually common, which basically makes this a false equivalency.

[Dictator]

OP can you explain why the scenario in the original post is a form of racism?

[mehyaM24]

op: some race baiting thread which indicates their inner bigotry
Knoe: responds to race baiting OP
MehyaM24: does not condemn OP for his race baiting, instead attacks Knoe's response to said race baiting.

Conclusion - MehyaM24 is a bigot with a chip on his shoulder against black people since he failed to attack Joyner's idiocy and instead focused on the response to it.
who is the OP and what is his track record? i have seen you in threads like this before, and here i am, once again, cutting you up.

inb4 more tears about slavery in which you never endured.

[The Iron Sheik]

my original point just means there were countries and continents, at the time, who also partook in slavery. including a race of people whose race of people whine about it today

and my original point is that slavery in other parts of the world is irrelevant and has nothing to do with slavery in america. you brought it up as if it's some sort of counterargument. just because it happened in other parts of the world, doesn't mean american slavery wasn't racially motivated (which was the post you were responding to)


there's not point in asking "what about america's slavery???" when many parts of the world participated in slavery. its basically a false equivalency.

i used to get angry at the dismissive attitude that white entitlement allows white people to have, especially towards black people, but now it's actually hilarious, though i understand and accept it now.

[Knoe Itawl]

who is the OP and what is his track record? i have seen you in threads like this before, and here i am, once again, cutting you up.

:cheers:

Excuse, and deflection. My response to the OP was not to condemn white people, but to show that they have their own share of issues which Joyner might want to consider before posting race baiting garbage. But you never called him out on his OP. WHY NOT? Because you're a BIGOT. Joyner's OP didn't make you mad, but my reply to him did. Hmmmm...........

And I've never had a race debate with you before so I don't know what you're talking about.

[mehyaM24]

and my original point is that slavery in other parts of the world is irrelevant and has nothing to do with slavery in america. you brought it up as if it's some sort of counterargument. just because it happened in other parts of the world, doesn't mean american slavery wasn't racially motivated (which was the post you were responding to)

its relevant when they participated with said countries and continents. my race were slaves. unless you're an alien, i'm sure yours were too. probably even slave owners as well.

what now?


i used to get angry at the dismissive attitude that white entitlement allows white people to have, especially towards black people, but now it's actually hilarious, though i understand and accept it now.

i'm not white, so there's that.

i used to pity losers that feel sorry for themselves and blame others, particularly those with a different skin color than yours, for their problems.

now? hell, i still do :yaohappy:

[mehyaM24]

Excuse, and deflection. My response to the OP was not to condemn white people, but to show that they have their own share of issues which Joyner might want to consider before posting race baiting garbage. But you never called him out on his OP. WHY NOT? Because you're a BIGOT. Joyner's OP didn't make you mad, but my reply to him did. Hmmmm...........

And I've never had a race debate with you before so I don't know what you're talking about.
joyner? i literally have no clue who OP is. that isn't an excuse, its just a fact. :confusedshrug:

[Knoe Itawl]

joyner? i literally have no clue who OP is. that isn't an excuse, its just a fact. :confusedshrug:

A. Why did you not call the OP out on his race baiting, and instead choose to focus on my reply to it?

B. When have you debated me before regarding race issues (as you asserted). Show me.

C. When did I even mention slavery in this entire thread?

[The Iron Sheik]

its relevant when they participated with said countries and continents. my race were slaves. unless you're an alien, i'm sure yours were too. probably even slave owners as well.

what now?

lol again, what does that have to do with anything? slavery in another continent has nothing to do with slavery in america. that's why i used the murder example. or better yet, like telling jews to get over the holocaust or people to get over 9/11 because that type of shit is happened in other parts of the world as well.


i'm not white, so there's that.

i used to pity losers that feel sorry for themselves and blame others, particularly those with a different skin color than yours, for their problems.

now? hell, i still do :yaohappy:

who said i blame white people (or any people) for all of black people's day to day problems? do i acknowledge the fact that blacks have been the most wronged people in america since it's inception? yes, but the issue is that there was never any closure for black people post jim crow. there was no hitler or osama bin laden for slavery/jim crow. it was just...white people. and white people are still around today, unlike hitler or osama.

in that sense, i feel somewhat bad for modern day white people because they are unfairly grouped in with "bad" white people. but at the same time, that's exactly what black people experience: a white (or any non-black) guy will have a bad experience with a black guy and it becomes "why do all black people do this?" but that's what i mean by the "white sense of entitlement". they've never been at a disadvantage for just being white so it's literally a foreign concept for them to understand how some shit that happened hundreds or even just 60 years ago could have a profound impact on modern society.

sorry for the diabtribe but that was just something i wanted to clear up.

[mehyaM24]

A. Why did you not call the OP out on his race baiting, and instead choose to focus on my reply to it?
i didn't think it was race baiting, but if he had a history of making topics to push an agenda, i probably would have. :confusedshrug:


When have you debated me before regarding race issues (as you asserted). Show me.
never said i debated you. i said i know your post history, and have seen you in similar topics.

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=328456&page=11

i have argued various basketball topics with you, and made you run with your tail tucked between your legs.


When did I even mention slavery in this entire thread?
i didn't say you did.

anything else, weakling?

[Joyner82reload]

Why do whites ignore the overall history of racism against blacks in this country? Blacks would have to brutalize white people and enslave them, and then have Jim Crow laws and all the rest of it before they could even SNIFF being close to the racism they've experienced by whites in this country. There's just no comparison if you have any ability to think critically as opposed to race bait.

Because other immigrants into this country have NEVER experienced racism/oppression. The Irish in the Northeast, Asians(particularly Chinese and Korean) , Hispanics, Indians, Women, Middle Eastern, Catholics. And that's not even bringing up the worst thing that ever occurred in this country that slavery doesn't even hold a candle to which is the discrimination of Native American's. That was practically an mass genocide and it was their native land.


Why do they ignore the PROVEN cases of racist white cops (San Francisco, florida where there were KKK cops, Ferguson where it was proven that the police dept was systematically racist, etc.). Do you know what that means to have a police dept, where officers can take your life, frame you, etc. be PROVEN to be corrupted by racism? Why ignore that?

You do realize the reason police profile, right? Do you think that a white male with a shaved head, covered in tattoo's undergo high rates of discrimination from law enforcement as well? Whether you like it or not, there is a subculture of violence that runs rampant throughout black america that is not consistent within the entire Caucasian demographic. Raw data might lead you to believe that a violent crime committed is just as likely to have been performed by a white person as a black person. The difference is that white outnumber blacks by a ratio of nearly 10:1 in the United States. The rate of violent crime by african american's is undeniably far greater than that of whites.

49% of ALL homicides in this country are committed by black americans. That number is staggering given that they only make up roughly 12% of the country. Armed robbery is even higher at 54%. The rates per capita in black communities are almost 10 times that found in any other community. Obviously when you have a percentage of the population that are FAR more likely to commit a crime, you are going to focus your efforts on that group of individuals. Whether you like it or not, a typical black male is far more likely to commit a violent crime than a non black individual on average. It's no different from assuming an average black male is a better athlete than a standard white male. Statistics state that this is to be true and I'm sure you have no issue with the assumption. The same type of data is applied within the criminal justice system and will continue to be utilized until the stereotype is no longer perpetuated by black america. The dichotomy for better or worse has been leant credence by the actions of those 2 groups.


Why ignore all of these frat college incidents with nooses, and talking about lynching black people and all of that? When these kids grow up to be the hiring managers that refuse to give blacks jobs, or racist cops, or politicians who support discriminatory policies, etc. etc.

You're very ignorant if you believe that racism runs rampant throughout college fraternities. The principles behind fraternity are all based upon religion and not racial segregation. Additionally, an african american college student is infinitely more likely to join a majority white general college fraternity than a white student is to join a black college fraternity. It's near impossible for a white male to join an all black fraternity. I am a member of one of the biggest fraternities in the United States, and have served as president twice. During my stay, I have personally initiated 3 black men and treat them no different from the rest of my fraternal brethren. The fact of the matter, however, is that the majority of blacks interested in joining a fraternity prefer to join a majority black fraternity as the group fits their interests/ideology more appropriately. It is no different from the majority of blacks and whites generally associating themselves with a group of friends that more closely fit their demographic. Alas, please give me an example of a recent violent crime committed by a college fraternity to another that was racially motivated.


Why do so many whites ignore the fact that a white person is 84% more likely to be killed by a white person than a black person? That whites lead in family annihilators, murder suicides, spree killers, pedophiles, and on and on? Instead, a white bigot will focus on black crime rates while ignoring the skeletons in their closets.

Probably because the majority of homicide crime is perpetrated by close acquaintances, whether it be through relationships or a common source of contact. Random homicide is very rare, the vast majority are emotional causes. Obviously a white person is far more likely to be emotionally attached to another white person due to the contact frequency.

Murder-suicides? Why would you bring that up? That is a useless statistic and most believe that anyone committing murder should be subject to life in prison and or death.

Familicide? Probably because it's almost always performed by the male(91%) in the household. There are 107 million white american families living in a 2 parent household. There are 3 million black american families living in a 2 parent household. Whites outnumber blacks by 3500%. That is why you see far more familicide within white communities.

You're absolutely incorrect in whites committing more sex crimes. Roughly 4.5 in every 1,000 african american's are registered sex offenders. That number is 2.7 for every 1,000 in the white demographic. Not to mention that white men are far more likely to be in every day contact with a child as they are far more likely to raise a child, as referenced in the multi-parent households statistics I presented earlier.


Why ignore the fact that whole towns in the midwest are being consumed by meth, while tows in the Northeast (Vermont especially) are being devastated by heroin addiction?

Are you really trying to compare drug epidemics? :lol

http://cdn2.vox-cdn.com/assets/4690865/drug_use_by_race.png

Bear in mind that whites outnumber blacks by 10:1

[Knoe Itawl]

i didn't think it was race baiting, but if he had a history of making topics to push an agenda, i probably would have.

In other words, the OP was race baiting negatively towards blacks so it was a-OK with you (since you're a bigot). Had the title of the thread been "why is racism towards blacks ignored by whites" I'm quite certain you would've focused on it.


i have argued various basketball topics with you, and made you run with your tail tucked between your legs.

Show me one.


i didn't say you did.

anything else, weakling?

You addressed this towards me:


inb4 more tears about slavery in which you never endured.

I never said anything about slavery, yet you found the need to bring up how I would allegedly have tears about it blah blah blah.

And again, you still haven't answered. Why did you not call out Joyner on his blatant race baiting OP, but instead chose to focus on my response to it, bigot?

[zoom17]

Another race thread :rolleyes:

[mehyaM24]

lol again, what does that have to do with anything? slavery in another continent has nothing to do with slavery in america. that's why i used the murder example. or better yet, like telling jews to get over the holocaust or people to get over 9/11 because that type of shit is happened in other parts of the world as well.



who said i blame white people (or any people) for all of black people's day to day problems? do i acknowledge the fact that blacks have been the most wronged people in america since it's inception? yes, but the issue is that there was never any closure for black people post jim crow. there was no hitler or osama bin laden for slavery/jim crow. it was just...white people. and white people are still around today, unlike hitler or osama.

in that sense, i feel somewhat bad for modern day white people because they are unfairly grouped in with "bad" white people. but at the same time, that's exactly what black people experience: a white (or any non-black) guy will have a bad experience with a black guy and it becomes "why do all black people do this?" but that's what i mean by the "white sense of entitlement". they've never been at a disadvantage for just being white so it's literally a foreign concept for them to understand how some shit that happened hundreds or even just 60 years ago could have a profound impact on modern society.

sorry for the diabtribe but that was just something i wanted to clear up.
i would agree with you in an alternate reality where we were posting 30-40 years ago, but there is literally no advantage or disadvantage of being a different skin color. that shit is all in your head for whatever insecure & psychologically induced reason.

like daily said - its time to stop living in the past and cut the excuses. our president is a so-called black man and most of our public service leaders are diverse:

http://www.nuf.org/sites/default/files/Documents/NUF_diversitycounts_V2FINAL.pdf

racism & certain aspects of privilege exists, but not to the extent you claim.

[ace23]

Newsflash, you're not african. You didn't experience the pain and hardships of slavery. Just about every class of people at some point in time have experienced oppression whether due to race, religion, gender, etc. Slavery was never about race, once again it was about free labor. And the African slave trade(BY AFRICAN's) made slaves readily available for purchase by other countries. Maybe you need a history lesson, but the african slave trade did not start or end with america and the atlantic. You think the Atlantic slave trade was bad? You should look up the Arab slave trade, which has twice the numbers and the men were castrated to prevent them from breeding. Alas despite the atrocities that were committed for attaining free labor, you should be thankful slavery occurred. If it had not, you would not be having this discussion with me and would be living in Africa.
Shut up.

[mehyaM24]

In other words, the OP was race baiting negatively towards blacks so it was a-OK with you (since you're a bigot). Had the title of the thread been "why is racism towards blacks ignored by whites" I'm quite certain you would've focused on it.

that's a hefty conclusion. totally ridiculous, but for someone with a one-track mind, definitely apropos. :oldlol:


Show me one.

google them.

You addressed this towards me:


I never said anything about slavery

everything is about race with you, so why not? its certainly not beneath you.

[Joyner82reload]

Shut up.

Well formed response. What's next? Lucky I don't run into on the streets?

[Knoe Itawl]

Because other immigrants into this country have NEVER experienced racism/oppression. The Irish in the Northeast, Asians(particularly Chinese and Korean) , Hispanics, Indians, Women, Middle Eastern, Catholics. And that's not even bringing up the worst thing that ever occurred in this country that slavery doesn't even hold a candle to which is the discrimination of Native American's. That was practically an mass genocide and it was their native land.

And what's the point other than deflection? The fact is, that blacks have experienced far more racism, violence, brutality and oppression at the hands of whites than vice versa. Only a fool, or a bigot with the need to suppress history would deny this. So I'll ask you again, why ignore that? Because it doesn't fit your bigoted agenda? That's what I thought.


You do realize the reason police profile, right? Do you think that a white male with a shaved head, covered in tattoo's undergo high rates of discrimination from law enforcement as well? Whether you like it or not, there is a subculture of violence that runs rampant throughout black america that is not consistent within the entire Caucasian demographic. Raw data might lead you to believe that a violent crime committed is just as likely to have been performed by a white person as a black person. The difference is that white outnumber blacks by a ratio of nearly 10:1 in the United States. The rate of violent crime by african american's is undeniably far greater than that of whites.

Once again, deflection. I'm not even talking about profiling blacks, because that's a whole other issue. I'm talking about white cops who have been proven to be racist against black people in GENERAL. Not just the "thugs" and criminals you bigots profess to hate, when you really hate all black people. These racist cops hate a suit and tie wearing, job having professional just as much as a "thug". And as such, they have the power and brutal nature to seriously mess up ANY black person's life, not just criminals because they hate the SKIN, not the character of the person. But because you're a deflecting, racist piece of shyt, you will of course ignore that and pretend it's all about just the thugs and criminals. They sent emails showing Obama as a monkey and he's the President who went to Harvard! What the fukk do you think they think about any other blacks? idiot.


49% of ALL homicides in this country are committed by black americans. That number is staggering given that they only make up roughly 12% of the country. Armed robbery is even higher at 54%. The rates per capita in black communities are almost 10 times that found in any other community. Obviously when you have a percentage of the population that are FAR more likely to commit a crime, you are going to focus your efforts on that group of individuals. Whether you like it or not, a typical black male is far more likely to commit a violent crime than a non black individual on average. It's no different from assuming an average black male is a better athlete than a standard white male. Statistics state that this is to be true and I'm sure you have no issue with the assumption. The same type of data is applied within the criminal justice system and will continue to be utilized until the stereotype is no longer perpetuated by black america. The dichotomy for better or worse has been leant credence by the actions of those 2 groups.

And yet, your bigoted ass is more likely to be killed by one of your own by a large margin. But I'll bet you're not scared of your own kind like you should be, are you? Further, it would take much too long and I don't have the time and inclination to school you on why murder rates are so high in black (lower class, because in middle to upper class black areas they aren't any higher than whites.


You're very ignorant if you believe that racism runs rampant throughout college fraternities. The principles behind fraternity are all based upon religion and not racial segregation. Additionally, an african american college student is infinitely more likely to join a majority white general college fraternity than a white student is to join a black college fraternity. It's near impossible for a white male to join an all black fraternity. I am a member of one of the biggest fraternities in the United States, and have served as president twice. During my stay, I have personally initiated 3 black men and treat them no different from the rest of my fraternal brethren. The fact of the matter, however, is that the majority of blacks interested in joining a fraternity prefer to join a majority black fraternity as the group fits their interests/ideology more appropriately. It is no different from the majority of blacks and whites generally associating themselves with a group of friends that more closely fit their demographic. Alas, please give me an example of a recent violent crime committed by a college fraternity to another that was racially motivated.

Oh, I know that there is a lot of racism in white frats, hell you're an example. And the point that you chose to ignore is that incident after incident (like whites having "gangsta" parties, or blackface parties, etc.). Btw, why do whites do shyt like that? We don't go around having Appalachian redneck parties. White bigots just seemed to be so obsessed with degrading blacks, it's pathological. At any rate, what you're leaving out is that in all of these incidents these are the hiring managers, cops, CEOs, etc. of tomorrow. Get it? (probably not, because you're a stupid bigot). As such, they will have the power to stop black folks from getting a job just because they think that there should "never be a n!gger SAE". They will have the power to harass black folks as cops or whatever the case may be. And as I pointed out above, these people hate black PEOPLE, not black criminals. You hate black PEOPLE, not just criminals. Which is weird considering you're in love with Durant. You're like the racist that wants a black guy to cuckold his wife you creepy fukk.


Probably because the majority of homicide crime is perpetrated by close acquaintances, whether it be through relationships or a common source of contact. Random homicide is very rare, the vast majority are emotional causes. Obviously a white person is far more likely to be emotionally attached to another white person due to the contact frequency.

And? It doesn't change the facts bigot. You're more likely to be killed by one of your own race than a black person. Even WITH the high black homicide rates. But again, you'll ignore that because it's so much more interesting to you to harp on black crime.


Murder-suicides? Why would you bring that up? That is a useless statistic and most believe that anyone committing murder should be subject to life in prison and or death.

Familicide? Probably because it's almost always performed by the male(91%) in the household. There are 107 million white american families living in a 2 parent household. There are 3 million black american families living in a 2 parent household. Whites outnumber blacks by 3500%. That is why you see far more familicide within white communities.

I bring it up, bigot, because you seem to be so focused on what black people are doing, their racism, their crime, etc. that you ignore the fact that whites commit more than their fair share of crimes. I look at the news every day and there's plenty of heinous crimes being committed by white people. Hell, the ID channel is 24 hours a day of heinous white crime. If whites are so superior to black folks, why is that? At least we have the excuse of institutionalized racism and years of oppression. What's white peoples? They're so pure and driven as the snow that you should hardly hear about them killing and raping and murdering and all that. But you do, time and time again. They own the vast majority of wealth in this country. They have the privilege. Yet they are killing, raping, robbing, etc. each other every day.


You're absolutely incorrect in whites committing more sex crimes. Roughly 4.5 in every 1,000 african american's are registered sex offenders. That number is 2.7 for every 1,000 in the white demographic. Not to mention that white men are far more likely to be in every day contact with a child as they are far more likely to raise a child, as referenced in the multi-parent households statistics I presented earlier.

So smug. Of course, you won't begin to take a look at how its proven that the criminal justice system is far from fair depending on the color of skin. From drug laws to unequal representation for poorer people to straight out racism. This has been proven time and time again by independent parties, scholars, etc. As a result, more black people are prosecuted for crimes. That's just a fact. However, being that you're a bigot, who pretends that everything is equal in America for blacks and whites you'll ignore all of that because it doesn't suit your bigoted agenda of condemning black folks.

The point, idiot, is that again there are enough white people in these situations. I've seen documentaries on how meth is ravaging entire towns in the midwest, about how heroin is doing the same in the Northeast. And many other areas. It's not about dick measuring who's doing more of what, IT'S ABOUT WHY DO YOU IGNORE, AND MAKE EXCUSES AND DEFLECT FROM YOUR OWN RACES POOR BEHAVIOR IN ORDER TO SMUGLY CONDEMN BLACKS TO MAKE YOURSELF FEEL SUPERIOR. Why do you do it? It's a kind of pathology. But what you don't get is that to someone like me who sees through your kind, all your statistics, and smugness and deflecting and all of it just makes you look like what you are - a pathetic bigot.

[Knoe Itawl]

Also, Joyner, I dare you to show your black frat members that you "treat the same as anyone else" this thread.

[qrich]

Because black people can not be racist. They just can't :rolleyes:

[mehyaM24]

Because black people can not be racist. They just can't :rolleyes:
don't deflect now! this is about the white devil!!! keyboard warriors crack me up. :oldlol:

[oh the horror]

The ignorance of people here can't be real. I feel like I'm hallucinating.

[longtime lurker]

OP is a grade A level dipsh!t. He makes up a hypothetical situation to prove the racism of blacks towards white people. Meanwhile there are an abundance of examples of racism by whites to black people for literally no reason.

[Joyner82reload]

The ignorance of people here can't be real. I feel like I'm hallucinating.

Can't even attempt to have a discussion without being called a racist or bigot. It's amusing to say the least.

[longtime lurker]

Because black people can not be racist. They just can't :rolleyes:

oh here's Qbitch on here bitching again. Tell us how Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson and Obama are racists.

[longtime lurker]

Can't even attempt to have a discussion without being called a racist or bigot. It's amusing to say the least.

The whole premise of your thread got destroyed the second post in. Whether you're racist or a bigot is up for debate, but one thing for sure is that you're fvcking idiot.

[Joyner82reload]

Why do blacks continue to blame whites for their problems rather than put their efforts towards bettering themselves and advancing their communities? Did the jews mope around and blame the germans for their situation post WWII, despite it being infinitely worse than what african slaves had to overcome? No, and now they're arguably the most powerful entity in this entire country.

[No_Look604]

The white man is the devil. DUHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

[longtime lurker]

Why do blacks continue to blame whites for their problems rather than put their efforts towards bettering themselves and advancing their communities? Did the jews mope around and blame the germans for their situation post WWII, despite it being infinitely worse than what african slaves had to overcome? No, and now they're arguably the most powerful entity in this entire country.

Yeah its not like jews received reparations or their own country because of the holocaust :rolleyes: Besides the situations aren't even comparable you dumbass.

[red1]

No, no it was not. That was the excuse for it being tolerable, the reasoning behind it was free labor. Plain and simple. And Africans were most readily available at the time due to their primitive lifestyle.
You just agreed with me dumbass

[No_Look604]

Why do blacks continue to blame whites for their problems rather than put their efforts towards bettering themselves and advancing their communities? Did the jews mope around and blame the germans for their situation post WWII, despite it being infinitely worse than what african slaves had to overcome? No, and now they're arguably the most powerful entity in this entire country.

The US government is shady as fcuk and has implemented things over the years, on the low, to keep the black community down. It's rather digusting what they have done because they view African-Americans as a threat. It's the only so-called "conspiracy" I really believe.

[qrich]

oh here's Qbitch on here bitching again. Tell us how Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson and Obama are racists.

Another idiot response from an idiotic poster. Continually show us how you lack any iota of knowledge.


Yeah its not like jews received reparations or their own country because of the holocaust :rolleyes: Besides the situations aren't even comparable you dumbass.

Like black people didn't/do receive reparations?

And of course they aren't, one is infinitely worse than the other. But fine, if you want to use the reparation bullshit, did Armenians/Greeks/Assyrians continue to mope after what the Turks? Did the Muslims in Burma mope when the Buddhists attempted to wipe them out?

[Joyner82reload]

Yeah its not like jews received reparations or their own country because of the holocaust :rolleyes: Besides the situations aren't even comparable you dumbass.

Jews don't receive reparations from the United States. :roll:

It was voted on by the UN and agreed upon by the Israel & Germany in accordance because 70% of their race was wiped off the face of the earth. And they were awarded a grand total of $7,000 for surviving. Do you really believe jews didn't, and still don't to this day, undergo extreme antisemitism? But you're right, the situations aren't remotely comparable. The third reich was far, far worse.

[Joyner82reload]

The US government is shady as fcuk and has implemented things over the years, on the low, to keep the black community down. It's rather digusting what they have done because they view African-Americans as a threat. It's the only so-called "conspiracy" I really believe.

Oh, right. I forgot the US invented crack cocaine, AIDS, and hip-hop to keep the black people down.

[longtime lurker]

Another idiot response from an idiotic poster. Continually show us how you lack any iota of knowledge.

Like black people didn't/do receive reparations?

You're just another clueless poster on this site. No black people didn't receive reparations wtf are you talking about?


And of course they aren't, one is infinitely worse than the other. But fine, if you want to use the reparation bullshit, did Armenians/Greeks/Assyrians continue to mope after what the Turks? Did the Muslims in Burma mope when the Buddhists attempted to wipe them out?

This is one of the most horrible tactics of diversion that's constantly brought up in these topics. What happened to the Armenians, Greeks or Muslims in another country are irrelevant when it comes to what happened to black people specifically in America. The circumstances aren't the same and aren't comparable. I'm not even advocating for reparations, but I'm informing the clueless idiot named Joyner on a topic which he's talking about of his ass. It's hilarious when you claim that black people "mope" around when its been a proven fact that there were laws and acts put in place with the purpose of holding them back economically and socially.

But all of this is irrelevant because Al Sharpton is racist

[longtime lurker]

Jews don't receive reparations from the United States. :roll:

It was voted on by the UN and agreed upon by the Israel & Germany in accordance because 70% of their race was wiped off the face of the earth. And they were awarded a grand total of $7,000 for surviving. Do you really believe jews didn't, and still don't to this day, undergo extreme antisemitism? But you're right, the situations aren't remotely comparable. The third reich was far, far worse.

What the fvck are you prattling on about? Of course Jews have been treated like shit and still experience antisemitism. Your point is just a diversion away from the fact that your topic is essentially hollow.

[qrich]

You're just another clueless poster on this site. No black people didn't receive reparations wtf are you talking about?

This is one of the most horrible tactics of diversion that's constantly brought up in these topics. What happened to the Armenians, Greeks or Muslims in another country are irrelevant when it comes to what happened to black people specifically in America. The circumstances aren't the same and aren't comparable. I'm not even advocating for reparations, but I'm informing the clueless idiot named Joyner on a topic which he's talking about of his ass. It's hilarious when you claim that black people "mope" around when its been a proven fact that there were laws and acts put in place with the purpose of holding them back economically and socially.

But all of this is irrelevant because Al Sharpton is racist

I'm clueless, yet, you are one of the many ignorant sheep out there. Kind of hilarious.

And of course, the circumstances aren't the same and aren't comparable. One is infinitely worse than the other, but of course, an ignoramus wouldn't understand the differences.

Also, please show me where I made such a claim. Of course though, you can't, as such a thing was never said by me. It's okay though, one day, you might actually grow your own brain instead of being another ignorant sheep.

At least you can finally admit Sharpton is a racist though. Step one in the right direction.

[Joyner82reload]

What the fvck are you prattling on about? Of course Jews have been treated like shit and still experience antisemitism. Your point is just a diversion away from the fact that your topic is essentially hollow.

The entire premise is that if they can overcome the extreme persecution they faced, so can black people. The question is why don't they take advantage given similar circumstances. The Jim Crow laws are long gone, so what's holding back black people?

[longtime lurker]

I'm clueless, yet, you are one of the many ignorant sheep out there. Kind of hilarious.

And of course, the circumstances aren't the same and aren't comparable. One is infinitely worse than the other, but of course, an ignoramus wouldn't understand the differences.

Also, please show me where I made such a claim. Of course though, you can't, as such a thing was never said by me. It's okay though, one day, you might actually grow your own brain instead of being another ignorant sheep.

Of course you'll call me an ignorant sheep because I call you out for being a clueless moron. I see you can't even defend your own point.

The internet is a beautiful thing. It allows you to actually call out dumbasses for making strawman arguments and provide proof.


You might.

But we'd most likely see Stephen A Smith, Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson and the rest of that group of racist trash take Ferguson into Madison and start rioting until Dekker was kicked out of school and Wisconsin vacated the season.

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=372534&page=6

[qrich]

Of course you'll call me an ignorant sheep because I call you out for being a clueless moron. I see you can't even defend your own point.

The internet is a beautiful thing. It allows you to actually call out dumbasses for making strawman arguments and provide proof.



http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=372534&page=6

More of nothing from you, why am I not surprised?

And yes, I fully stand by that quote, and always will.

How does that show me stating what you claimed I said though? Can you not even read nor comprehend your own typing? Afterall, I asked you to prove: "It's hilarious when you claim that black people "mope" around".

Instead, you bring up something totally irrelevant?

[longtime lurker]

The entire premise is that if they can overcome the extreme persecution they faced, so can black people. The question is why don't they take advantage given similar circumstances. The Jim Crow laws are long gone, so what's holding back black people?

The circumstances aren't the same stupid. Do you not understand the US government kept black people economically and socially disadvantaged? White people were so fvcked up they didn't even let them go to the same schools when they tried to get an education. They also burned down thriving black communities and flooded black communities with drugs. If you're going to run your mouth then you should at least do some research on the subject.

Isn't this topic on supposed to be on how black people are racist towards whites? Maybe the rest of your low IQ, worthless losers can provide you some back up.

[longtime lurker]

More of nothing from you, why am I not surprised?

And yes, I fully stand by that quote, and always will.

How does that show me stating what you claimed I said though? Can you not even read nor comprehend your own typing? Afterall, I asked you to prove: "It's hilarious when you claim that black people "mope" around".

Instead, you bring up something totally irrelevant?

Hey dipsh!t in your own words you claim black people mope instead of getting over it like the Armenians and Turks. And if you want me to address something stupid that you said you should be more specific in what you're referring to.

[warriorfan]

only losers sit around and toil about racism that doesn't even really effect them day to day...go out and start living your life and deal with racism if it comes to you...don't go out searching and obsessing over racism...

[qrich]

Hey dipsh!t in your own words you claim black people mope instead of getting over it like the Armenians and Turks. And if you want me to address something stupid that you said you should be more specific in what you're referring to.

Poster boy for abortion here folks. Dude makes a claim I said something, yet, brings in something else, showing his total lack of comprehension, of something he himself said. And follows it up by showing his total lack of knowledge of world history.

I guess it must be that heroin the whities forced his mom to take while pregnant with him.

[ArbitraryWater]

White people comparing a white person saying a racial slur to a black person saying one is so dumb..

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

only losers sit around and toil about racism that doesn't even really effect them day to day...go out and start living your life and deal with racism if it comes to you...don't go out searching and obsessing over racism...

This. Posters in here with outlandish opinions would never say this ish outside their computers. Racism exists, of course, but you have people in here talking like its the 50s and 60's; segregation and all. :oldlol: Get a f*cking grip.

[ace23]

This. Posters in here with outlandish opinions would never say this ish outside their computers. Racism exists, of course, but you have people in here talking like its the 50s and 60's; segregation and all. :oldlol: Get a f*cking grip.
Haven't really seen anything outlandish/atypical/controversial enough to not say "outside their computers" in here aside from Joyner telling me that I should be happy slavery took place. Be more specific.

[NumberSix]

I think an issue here is that some of the non blacks get tired of hearing blacks who were born in the 80s and 90s talk like they were personally picking cotton in the 1820s.

Individual vs collective mentality. Whites just don't have the "us" or "we" mentality that other groups do. Whites in general don't view blacks as collective victims and they don't see themselves as collective perpetrators. It strikes people with an individualist mentality as odd to see individuals who were never victims of something to collectively adopt the victimhood of individuals who were.


In short (generalization of course)......

Black mentality: "WE were slaves, and YALL were masters"
White mentality: " YOU were never a slave and I was never a master"

[poido123]

I think an issue here is that some of the non blacks get tired of hearing blacks who were born in the 80s and 90s talk like they were personally picking cotton in the 1820s.

Individual vs collective mentality. Whites just don't have the "us" or "we" mentality that other groups do. Whites in general don't view blacks as collective victims and they don't see themselves as collective perpetrators. It strikes people with an individualist mentality as odd to see individuals who were never victims of something to collectively adopt the victimhood of individuals who were.


In short (generalization of course)......

Black mentality: "WE were slaves, and YALL were masters"
White mentality: " YOU were never a slave and I was never a master"



WTF :roll: :roll: That opening sentence is hilarious!


The rest of the post is spot on.

[BasedTom]

WTF :roll: :roll: That opening sentence is hilarious!


The rest of the post is spot on.
when are you playing plowking though?

[poido123]

when are you playing plowking though?


This Sunday afternoon Australian time.


We will hold our promise, it's only Plowking who could pull out last minute with work.

[Dbrog]

WTF :roll: :roll: That opening sentence is hilarious!


The rest of the post is spot on.

How exactly is that line hilarious? You imply that it is not spot on?

[ace23]

How exactly is that line hilarious? You imply that it is not spot on?
It's not. Dude's an idiot. Lol

[Dbrog]

It's not. Dude's an idiot. Lol

hahaha I just don't get it. I think some black people in this thread need to get a white friend and vice versa. It's crazy how even just a little bit of exposure can completely change your perceptions about groups. I grew up in San Antonio which is a ****ing super melting-pot.

We had all groups and I had many friends who were black, white, chinese, vietnamese, filipino, and hispanic. However, I never had a friend from the Middle East. As I grew older, I realized I had prejudices against this group as a whole because I was not exposed to them. This was especially apparent after 9/11 and I would see people in full burqas. Later in college I made a couple of friends (granted they were more americanized) from the middle east and they were some of the nicest, most hospitable people I've ever met. My perception of this group immediately changed in a drastic way. However, despite this, I sometimes I still find myself judging people from the middle east at first glace (habit I suppose).

I think this perfectly illustrates how prejudices begin and groups separate themselves. This is where many people get stuck and sometimes never get out of. It's just a shame to live your life this way (in general holding onto the past is unhealthy) when there are so many interesting and diverse people out there to learn from and have fun with.

[ace23]

hahaha I just don't get it. I think some black people in this thread need to get a white friend and vice versa. It's crazy how even just a little bit of exposure can completely change your perceptions about groups. I grew up in San Antonio which is a ****ing super melting-pot.

We had all groups and I had many friends who were black, white, chinese, vietnamese, filipino, and hispanic. However, I never had a friend from the Middle East. As I grew older, I realized I had prejudices against this group as a whole because I was not exposed to them. This was especially apparent after 9/11 and I would see people in full burqas. Later in college I made a couple of friends (granted they were more americanized) from the middle east and they were some of the nicest, most hospitable people I've ever met. My perception of this group immediately changed in a drastic way. However, despite this, I sometimes I still find myself judging people from the middle east at first glace (habit I suppose).

I think this perfectly illustrates how prejudices begin and groups separate themselves. This is where many people get stuck and sometimes never get out of. It's just a shame to live your life this way (in general holding onto the past is unhealthy) when there are so many interesting and diverse people out there to learn from and have fun with.
That's a cool post brah but what the fck did it have to do with anything? :biggums:

[Dbrog]

That's a cool post brah but what the fck did it have to do with anything? :biggums:

Thanks :oldlol:
Eh...I guess it's more to give perspective on the vibe of this thread and showing other people that they shouldn't be ashamed of their prejudices that they formed before they even knew what the fck was going on. Many of the posts here, and the internet in general, are filled with hate or an us vs them vibe. Either that or e-peen contests...which can be funny sometimes. I guess the optimist in me hopes that my post could get a person or two here to broaden their perspectives instead of avoiding issues within themselves and hiding them by attacking others.

[Godzuki]

This. Posters in here with outlandish opinions would never say this ish outside their computers. Racism exists, of course, but you have people in here talking like its the 50s and 60's; segregation and all. :oldlol: Get a f*cking grip.


people are afraid to talk republicans and democrat politics outside of their computers also.

people don't talk about their personal life much outside of their computer or close friends either.

its dumb when people try to discredit computer talk when its probably much more honest than outside of their computers.