Who is the better scorer (short list of players)

[Im so nba'd out]

Monta Ellis or Russell Westbrook?

Steph Curry or Kevin Durant

LeBron James or Carmelo Anthony

James Harden or Klay Thompson

Anthony Davis or Blake Griffin

[keep-itreal]

Kobe

[aj1987]

Monta Ellis or Russell Westbrook?

Steph Curry or Kevin Durant

LeBron James or Carmelo Anthony

James Harden or Klay Thompson

Anthony Davis or Blake Griffin
#1. WB. Both of them are low IQ scorers and take a ton of dumb shots.
#2. Durant and it's not even close.
#3. LeBron and it's not even close.
#4. Close, but I'll take Haren.
#5. Close, but I'll take BG.

[chazzy]

#1. Wash.
#4. Close
:coleman:

[KirbyPls]

Monta Ellis or Russell Westbrook?

Steph Curry or Kevin Durant

LeBron James or Carmelo Anthony

James Harden or Klay Thompson

Anthony Davis or Blake Griffin

Westbrook;
LBJ;
Harden;
Davis

[navy]

#1. Wash. Both of them are low IQ scorers and take a ton of dumb shots.
#2. Durant and it's not even close.
#3. LeBron and it's not even close.
#4. Close, but I'll take Haren.
#5. Close, but I'll take BG.
Klay Thompson is close to Harden?

[navy]

Monta Ellis or Russell Westbrook?

Steph Curry or Kevin Durant

LeBron James or Carmelo Anthony

James Harden or Klay Thompson

Anthony Davis or Blake Griffin
Bolded.

[aj1987]

:coleman:
WB is an extremely overrated scorer, IMO. Given the green light, Monta would put up those kind of numbers as well. He actually came close a while ago. IIRC, he averaged 26 PPG in '09. But, yeah, you're probably right. WB get's the nod there. I'll edit my post.

Harden vs Klay? If Klay had Harden's handles, then it wouldn't even be close. He's not, so Harden gets the edge.


Klay Thompson is close to Harden?
Klay is putting up 22 on very good efficiency without all the BS fouls that Harden gets. 6 fewer points while taking 2 shots and 7 FT's less than Harden.

[Maverick Sniper]

Monta Ellis or Russell Westbrook?

Steph Curry or Kevin Durant

LeBron James or Carmelo Anthony

James Harden or Klay Thompson

Anthony Davis or Blake Griffin

Westbrook
Lebron
Harden
AD

[greatest-ever]

Monta Ellis or Russell Westbrook?

Steph Curry or Kevin Durant

LeBron James or Carmelo Anthony

James Harden or Klay Thompson

Anthony Davis or Blake Griffin
None of these are even close except BG vs Davis, its Davis though going just by this season.

[greatest-ever]

WB is an extremely overrated scorer, IMO. Given the green light, Monta would put up those kind of numbers as well. He actually came close a while ago. IIRC, he averaged 26 PPG in '09. But, yeah, you're probably right. WB get's the nod there. I'll edit my post.

Harden vs Klay? If Klay had Harden's handles, then it wouldn't even be close. He's not, so Harden gets the edge.


Klay is putting up 22 on very good efficiency without all the BS fouls that Harden gets. 6 fewer points while taking 2 shots and 7 FT's less than Harden.
Klay cannot create his shot to the level of Harden, and you may bring up free throws but that is also a skill and Klay cannot draw free throws like Harden even if he tried.

Harden is by far the superior scorer.

[navy]

WB is an extremely overrated scorer, IMO. Given the green light, Monta would put up those kind of numbers as well. He actually came close a while ago. IIRC, he averaged 26 PPG in '09. But, yeah, you're probably right. WB get's the nod there. I'll edit my post.

Harden vs Klay? If Klay had Harden's handles, then it wouldn't even be close. He's not, so Harden gets the edge.


Klay is putting up 22 on very good efficiency without all the BS fouls that Harden gets. 6 fewer points while taking 2 shots and 7 FT's less than Harden.
6 points is a lot.

[aj1987]

Klay cannot create his shot to the level of Harden, and you may bring up free throws but that is also a skill and Klay cannot draw free throws like Harden even if he tried.

Harden is by far the superior scorer.
That's the only reason why Klay gets the edge. As I said, if he had Harden's handles, he'd be a far superior scorer. Right now though Harden > Klay.

[Smook A.]

Monta Ellis or Russell Westbrook?

Steph Curry or Kevin Durant

LeBron James or Carmelo Anthony

James Harden or Klay Thompson

Anthony Davis or Blake Griffin
Westbrook
Durant
LeBron
Harden
Davis

[greatest-ever]

That's the only reason why Klay gets the edge. As I said, if he had Harden's handles, he'd be a far superior scorer. Right now though Harden > Klay.
You can't do what ifs here. And even so, still no. He still wouldn't have the scoring arsenal of a Harden.

[aj1987]

You can't do what ifs here. And even so, still no. He still wouldn't have the scoring arsenal of a Harden.
Harden's scoring "arsenal" is basically his 3pt shooting and driving for fouls. That's it.

Again, I didn't say that Klay is better than Harden. Never did. In fact, I've already said thrice that Harden > Klay.

[Smook A.]

Harden's scoring "arsenal" is basically his 3pt shooting and driving for fouls. That's it.

Again, I didn't say that Klay is better than Harden. Never did. In fact, I've already said thrice that Harden > Klay.
Harden also has that step-back mid range shot and he can also drive in the lane for the lay in. Sure it seems like he only goes to the rim to try and get free throws, but other times its just a simple layup over the defender.

[bizil]

Monta Ellis or Russell Westbrook?

Steph Curry or Kevin Durant

LeBron James or Carmelo Anthony

James Harden or Klay Thompson

Anthony Davis or Blake Griffin

Westbrook
KD
Melo
Harden
Davis

When it comes to Melo vs. Bron, I prefer Melo's scoring skillset and willingness to take over. I understand Bron's shoots a better FG%. But I think a lot of that is because Bron is a point forward. He has a great gauge of what to do when. I think Durant and Melo with their size and scoring skillsets present the most difficult matchups.

[aj1987]

Westbrook
KD
Melo
Harden
Davis

When it comes to Melo vs. Bron, I prefer Melo's scoring skillset and willingness to take over. I understand Bron's shoots a better FG%. But I think a lot of that is because Bron is a point forward. He has a great gauge of what to do when. I think Durant and Melo with their size and scoring skillsets present the most difficult matchups.
LeBron scores 2 PPG more than Melo over their careers. Outside their rookie years, LeBron NEVER scored under 25 PPG. Melo did it thrice. LeBron scored 30+ a game twice. Melo NEVER did it. Yeah, LeBron is the better scorer and it's definitely not even close.

[bizil]

LeBron scores 2 PPG more than Melo over their careers. Outside their rookie years, LeBron NEVER scored under 25 PPG. Melo did it thrice. LeBron scored 30+ a game twice. Melo NEVER did it. Yeah, LeBron is the better scorer and it's definitely not even close.

I put them on the same tier of scoring prowess honestly. But THE TIEBREAKER for me is Melo's scoring skillset and willingness to takeover scoring. For you to say ITS NOT CLOSE is an ignorant statement to make.

As I pointed out before, Lebron is a point forward. He has the ball in his hands more than Melo to begin with. If u think Bron is the better scorer THEN FINE! I wouldn't argue too hard at all. But in terms of a SCORING ASSASSIN, give me Melo over Bron.

And u can't go by PPG all the time either. If u know the game, U SHOULD KNOW who the true alpha dogs are. Just to be considered one, it means u are in elite company. From that group, it can be a matter of taste in terms of who is the best scorer.

[sd3035]

Monta Ellis or Russell Westbrook?

Steph Curry or Kevin Durant **

LeBron James or Carmelo Anthony

James Harden or Klay Thompson

Anthony Davis or Blake Griffin


** tied for best in the world

[aj1987]

I put them on the same tier of scoring prowess honestly. But THE TIEBREAKER for me is Melo's scoring skillset and willingness to takeover scoring. For you to say ITS NOT CLOSE is an ignorant statement to make.

As I pointed out before, Lebron is a point forward. He has the ball in his hands more than Melo to begin with. If u think Bron is the better scorer THEN FINE! I wouldn't argue too hard at all. But in terms of a SCORING ASSASSIN, give me Melo over Bron.

And u can't go by PPG all the time either. If u know the game, U SHOULD KNOW who the true alpha dogs are. Just to be considered one, it means u are in elite company. From that group, it can be a matter of taste in terms of who is the best scorer.
You want to compare clutch stats?

'14:

James - 42.8 PPG @ 48.4/31/84 9.5 RPG 5.8 APG
Melo - 36.4 PPG @ 35.5/33.2/92 10.1 RPG 3.9 APG

'13:

James - 38.7 PPG @ 44.2/28/76 15.2 RPG 14.9 APG
Melo - 38.2 PPG @ 37.7/29.4/86 12.9 RPG 0.0 APG

'12:

James - 33.2 PPG @ 38.6/27.3/68 15.1 RPG 9.3 APG
Melo - 43.6 PPG @ 34.4/33.0/73 12. RPG 3.4 APG

'11:

James - 45.1 PPG @ 43.6/23.8/84 11.2 RPG 4.9 APG
Melo - 34.2 PPG @ 41.7/50.0/81 12.5 RPG 1.3 APG

'10:

James - 66.1 PPG @ 48.8/34/80 15.9 RPG 8.3 APG
Melo - 47 PPG @ 42.7/14.3/87 9.5 RPG 1.6 APG

'09:

James - 55.9 PPG @ 55.6/42.1/85 14.3 RPG 12.6 APG
Melo - 54.4 PPG @ 56.5/58.3/82 7.6 RPG 2.9 APG

Looking at the clutch scoring, RS scoring, Playoff scoring, and their efficiencies, it's pretty safe to conclude that LeBron is a MUCH better scorer than Melo. Heck, LeBron's scoring yields results as well.

Scoring assassin?

60+ Point Games:

James - 1
Melo - 1

50+ Point Games:

James - 10
Melo - 4

40+ Point Games:

James - 67
Melo - 39

30+ Point Games:

James - 425
Melo - 270

20+ Point Games:

James - 889
Melo - 685

Seasons with 25+ PPG:

James - 11
Melo - 7

Seasons with 30+ PPG:

James - 2
Melo - 0

RS Scoring and Efficiency:

James - 27.4 PPG on 58.1% TS
Melo - 25.2 PPG on 54.6% TS

Postseason Scoring and Efficiency:

James - 28 PPG on 57.8% TS
Melo - 25.7 PPG on 51.3% TS

Facts:
1. LeBron averages more points than Melo in the RS and PO's.
2. LeBron is more efficient than Melo in the RS and significantly more in the PO's.
3. LeBron is a better clutch player than Melo.

The playmaking that LeBron provides on top of his scoring is just the icing on the proverbial cake.

So, how is Anthony a better scorer than LeBron?

[LiLharvard]

#1. WB. Both of them are low IQ scorers and take a ton of dumb shots.
#2. Durant and it's not even close.
#3. LeBron and it's not even close.
#4. Close, but I'll take Haren.
#5. Close, but I'll take BG.

Dan Haren :biggums:

[aj1987]

Dan Haren :biggums:
I think I've made it pretty obvious that I hate that bearded ******.

[bizil]

You want to compare clutch stats?

'14:

James - 42.8 PPG @ 48.4/31/84 9.5 RPG 5.8 APG
Melo - 36.4 PPG @ 35.5/33.2/92 10.1 RPG 3.9 APG

'13:

James - 38.7 PPG @ 44.2/28/76 15.2 RPG 14.9 APG
Melo - 38.2 PPG @ 37.7/29.4/86 12.9 RPG 0.0 APG

'12:

James - 33.2 PPG @ 38.6/27.3/68 15.1 RPG 9.3 APG
Melo - 43.6 PPG @ 34.4/33.0/73 12. RPG 3.4 APG

'11:

James - 45.1 PPG @ 43.6/23.8/84 11.2 RPG 4.9 APG
Melo - 34.2 PPG @ 41.7/50.0/81 12.5 RPG 1.3 APG

'10:

James - 66.1 PPG @ 48.8/34/80 15.9 RPG 8.3 APG
Melo - 47 PPG @ 42.7/14.3/87 9.5 RPG 1.6 APG

'09:

James - 55.9 PPG @ 55.6/42.1/85 14.3 RPG 12.6 APG
Melo - 54.4 PPG @ 56.5/58.3/82 7.6 RPG 2.9 APG

Looking at the clutch scoring, RS scoring, Playoff scoring, and their efficiencies, it's pretty safe to conclude that LeBron is a MUCH better scorer than Melo. Heck, LeBron's scoring yields results as well.

Scoring assassin?

60+ Point Games:

James - 1
Melo - 1

50+ Point Games:

James - 10
Melo - 4

40+ Point Games:

James - 67
Melo - 39

30+ Point Games:

James - 425
Melo - 270

20+ Point Games:

James - 889
Melo - 685

Seasons with 25+ PPG:

James - 11
Melo - 7

Seasons with 30+ PPG:

James - 2
Melo - 0

RS Scoring and Efficiency:

James - 27.4 PPG on 58.1% TS
Melo - 25.2 PPG on 54.6% TS

Postseason Scoring and Efficiency:

James - 28 PPG on 57.8% TS
Melo - 25.7 PPG on 51.3% TS

Facts:
1. LeBron averages more points than Melo in the RS and PO's.
2. LeBron is more efficient than Melo in the RS and significantly more in the PO's.
3. LeBron is a better clutch player than Melo.

The playmaking that LeBron provides on top of his scoring is just the icing on the proverbial cake.

So, how is Anthony a better scorer than LeBron?

With all the shit u said, the fact remains that Melo has a better scoring skillset. And Melo is still QUICKER to take a game by the throat scoring. I NEVER said Bron didn't have the same capabilities to do it. I STATED that I prefer Melo's way of taking over a game scoring over LeBron.

I put them on the same tier of scoring dominance. As I stated before, when u are talking guys like Bron, Durant, Melo,and Harden it can come down to a matter of taste. Bron is CLEARLY the best player in the world.

But as far as pure scoring goes, I like the approach and skillset of Melo. I don't have a problem with anybody taking Bron over Melo scoring wise. BUT to say Bron is a better scorer BY FAR is a huge mistake. The analyst on TNT, ESPN, and NBA TV would tell u the same thing.

[plowking]

With all the shit u said, the fact remains that Melo has a better scoring skillset. And Melo is still QUICKER to take a game by the throat scoring. I NEVER said Bron didn't have the same capabilities to do it. I STATED that I prefer Melo's way of taking over a game scoring over LeBron.

I put them on the same tier of scoring dominance. As I stated before, when u are talking guys like Bron, Durant, Melo,and Harden it can come down to a matter of taste. Bron is CLEARLY the best player in the world. But as far as pure scoring goes, I like the approach and skillset of Melo.

Why does his skillset matter if he can't score with it? Clearly it isn't a refined skill.
Melo isn't quicker to take a game by the throat. All the stats he posted prove that. Bron is better in the clutch.

[aj1987]

With all the shit u said, the fact remains that Melo has a better scoring skillset. And Melo is still QUICKER to take a game by the throat scoring. I NEVER said Bron didn't have the same capabilities to do it. I STATED that I prefer Melo's way of taking over a game scoring over LeBron.

I put them on the same tier of scoring dominance. As I stated before, when u are talking guys like Bron, Durant, Melo,and Harden it can come down to a matter of taste. Bron is CLEARLY the best player in the world.

But as far as pure scoring goes, I like the approach and skillset of Melo. I don't have a problem with anybody taking Bron over Melo scoring wise. BUT to say Bron is a better scorer BY FAR is a huge mistake. The analyst on TNT, ESPN, and NBA TV would tell u the same thing.
What plowking said. What good is his scoring skill set, if he's not on LeBron's level as a scorer? LeBron with his "inferior" skill set is clearly a better scorer than Melo. The objective of a scorer is to put up X number of points as efficiently as possibly. LeBron does this better than Carmelo. Hence, LeBron is a better scorer than Melo.

[bizil]

Why does his skillset matter if he can't score with it? Clearly it isn't a refined skill.
Melo isn't quicker to take a game by the throat. All the stats he posted prove that. Bron is better in the clutch.

Clearly Melo puts in MAJOR WORK SCORING! His numbers prove that out. As I stated earlier, it's a matter of taste. The question was who do I think is the better scorer. And for me, Melo's scoring skillset is a deciding factor. Bron is a great passer who is also a great scorer.

Bron is a point forward and really looks to get his teammates involved. Sure Bron can take over a game and dominate scoring. BUT Melo's approach is score first. Once u couple that with his scoring skillset, I prefer Melo to Bron scoring.

Melo's mind is geared to DOMINATE scoring first. Lebron's mentality is much different EVEN THOUGH he's a dominant scorer.

And FOR THE LAST TIME, I have Bron and Melo on the same tier in terms of scoring. BUT Melo's style of scoring is to dominate that way FIRST AND FOREMOST! And he does it from all over the court. And for me, I use that as a tiebreaker.

Bron's style is much more point forward, great defense, and STILL DOMINATE scoring. For all intents and purposes, Bron is like a mix of Pippen and Dr. J at the SF. By that I mean his calling card is the epic versatility of Scottie Pippen. BUT he's also a dominant freak athlete scorer like a Dr. J to go with it.

[bizil]

What plowking said. What good is his scoring skill set, if he's not on LeBron's level as a scorer? LeBron with his "inferior" skill set is clearly a better scorer than Melo. The objective of a scorer is to put up X number of points as efficiently as possibly. LeBron does this better than Carmelo. Hence, LeBron is a better scorer than Melo.

Once again, I have Bron and Melo on the same tier of scoring. They put up similar numbers in their careers. Steve Nash was a more efficient scorer than Allen Iverson. Was he a better scorer? HELL NO!! The reason why is because Iverson scored many more points. And as a one on one player, more unstoppable than Nash.

A lot of it had to do with Iverson's mentality. He was an icon who looked to dominate scoring AT ALL COSTS! Nash was a pure PG who would dominate late if he had to. But he would be more content getting 18-20 PPG and 11-12 dimes.

When the PPG or scoring ability is close like a Melo and Bron, I really think it comes down to a matter of taste. Melo is simply going to keep his foot on the gas more scoring thoughout the game than Bron will. Bron will get just as many points and have clutch moments.

But typically, Bron is playing in a point forward role and picking his spots to dominate. And THAT's why he shoots a higher percentage. It's not because of lack of ability on Melo's part. It's because some great scorers DO catch a case of hero ball and put up bad shots. Bron isn't that kind of scorer BECAUSE he always looking to drop dimes and make others better.

Some of u UNDERESTIMATE the scoring skillset and scoring mentality aspects. Stats don't factor in those two things often times. When the scoring numbers are close like Bron and Melo, it comes down to a matter of taste. I've heard Kobe Bryant HIMSELF say Melo was his toughest cover in the league in the last few years.. That right here carries A LOT OF WEIGHT!! In this clip, Kobe says EXACTLY what I've been saying to u and others on here! These are the type of things I base my arguments on!

https://youtu.be/koVnmV6JN48

[aj1987]

Once again, I have Bron and Melo on the same tier of scoring. They put up similar numbers in their careers. Steve Nash was a more efficient scorer than Allen Iverson. Was he a better scorer? HELL NO!! The reason why is because Iverson scored many more points. And as a one on one player, more unstoppable than Nash.

A lot of it had to do with Iverson's mentality. He was an icon who looked to dominate scoring AT ALL COSTS! Nash was a pure PG who would dominate late if he had to. But he would be more content getting 18-20 PPG and 11-12 dimes.

When the PPG or scoring ability is close like a Melo and Bron, I really think it comes down to a matter of taste. Melo is simply going to keep his foot on the gas more scoring thoughout the game than Bron will. Bron will get just as many points and have clutch moments.

But typically, Bron is playing in a point forward role and picking his spots to dominate. And THAT's why he shoots a higher percentage. It's not because of lack of ability on Melo's part. It's because some great scorers DO catch a case of hero ball and put up bad shots. Bron isn't that kind of scorer BECAUSE he always looking to drop dimes and make others better.

Some of u UNDERESTIMATE the scoring skillset and scoring mentality aspects. Stats don't factor in those two things often times. When the scoring numbers are close like Bron and Melo, it comes down to a matter of taste. I've heard Kobe Bryant HIMSELF say Melo was his toughest cover in the league in the last few years.. That right here carries A LOT OF WEIGHT!! In this clip, Kobe says EXACTLY what I've been saying to u and others on here! These are the type of things I base my arguments on!

https://youtu.be/koVnmV6JN48
:roll: :roll:

What are you even talking about anymore? In this instance, Nash = LeBron and Iverson = Melo? Well, there's a problem with your logic. LeBron scores MORE points than Melo.

ALL NUMBERS CLUTCH, RS, PO's, etc. POINT TO LEBRON BEING A BETTER SCORER.

LeBron scores more points than Melo on much better efficiency. He does it in the crunch as well.

LeBron's scoring provides RESULTS. Melo just doesn't have the "killer instinct" that you claim he has.

Again,

Facts:
1. LeBron averages more points than Melo in the RS and PO's.
2. LeBron is more efficient than Melo in the RS and significantly more in the PO's.
3. LeBron is a better clutch player than Melo.

The objective of a scorer is to put up X number of points as efficiently as possibly. LeBron does this better than Carmelo. Hence, LeBron is a better scorer than Melo.

For all of Melo's skill set, he can't match LeBron's scoring production.

If you're claiming that Melo is "mentally strong", check his PO production.

[plowking]

Clearly Melo puts in MAJOR WORK SCORING! His numbers prove that out. As I stated earlier, it's a matter of taste. The question was who do I think is the better scorer. And for me, Melo's scoring skillset is a deciding factor. Bron is a great passer who is also a great scorer.

Bron is a point forward and really looks to get his teammates involved. Sure Bron can take over a game and dominate scoring. BUT Melo's approach is score first. Once u couple that with his scoring skillset, I prefer Melo to Bron scoring.

Melo's mind is geared to DOMINATE scoring first. Lebron's mentality is much different EVEN THOUGH he's a dominant scorer.

And FOR THE LAST TIME, I have Bron and Melo on the same tier in terms of scoring. BUT Melo's style of scoring is to dominate that way FIRST AND FOREMOST! And he does it from all over the court. And for me, I use that as a tiebreaker.

Bron's style is much more point forward, great defense, and STILL DOMINATE scoring. For all intents and purposes, Bron is like a mix of Pippen and Dr. J at the SF. By that I mean his calling card is the epic versatility of Scottie Pippen. BUT he's also a dominant freak athlete scorer like a Dr. J to go with it.

Melo's mind can be geared towards doing whatever it wants, he still isn't a better scorer any way you look at it, and no mindset can change that.

The only way to explain it to you is that your opinion is wrong, because it isn't actually an opinion. It is just a wrong statement on your part. Melo doesn't even have a bigger skillset in terms of scoring compared to Bron. Just because he throws a couple jabsteps on the outside and has a nice looking jumper, doesn't mean shit if he can't score as well as someone else with it.

Bron scores more in the regular season, more in the playoffs, has higher averages, is more efficient, has more 60, 50, 40, 30 and 20 point games, etc. He dominates the facet of scoring more than Melo does by a long margin. He is a better scorer. You might think the way Melo scores points is prettier, and good for you, but he isn't better at it. I think Jamal Crawford has a pretty game, yet I still don't think he is a better scorer than James Harden.

[bizil]

:roll: :roll:

What are you even talking about anymore? In this instance, Nash = LeBron and Iverson = Melo? Well, there's a problem with your logic. LeBron scores MORE points than Melo.

ALL NUMBERS CLUTCH, RS, PO's, etc. POINT TO LEBRON BEING A BETTER SCORER.

LeBron scores more points than Melo on much better efficiency. He does it in the crunch as well.

LeBron's scoring provides RESULTS. Melo just doesn't have the "killer instinct" that you claim he has.

Again,

Facts:
1. LeBron averages more points than Melo in the RS and PO's.
2. LeBron is more efficient than Melo in the RS and significantly more in the PO's.
3. LeBron is a better clutch player than Melo.

The objective of a scorer is to put up X number of points as efficiently as possibly. LeBron does this better than Carmelo. Hence, LeBron is a better scorer than Melo.

For all of Melo's skill set, he can't match LeBron's scoring production.

If you're claiming that Melo is "mentally strong", check his PO production.

Do u have a crush on Lebron or something? I said I'm fine with those who think Bron is a better scorer than Melo. But I put both of them on the same tier of scoring brilliance. For me, I prefer Melo's scoring skillset and score first mentality.

One thing to keep in mind is the fact that Bron averages 19.8 shot attempts per game for his career. Melo averages 19.7 shot attempts for his career. Their attempts are basically even. But their mentality and approaches are clearly different. Given the fact that Bron has the ball in his hands so much as a point forward, HE CAN PICK HIS SPOTS to score more than Melo.

As Russell Westbrook proved, when u are an alpha dog scorer AND the primary ball handler, it allows u to put up awesome numbers because u have the ball in your hands a lot. Those guys get to play puppet master more than a pure SF like Melo because they have playmaking duties.

So when u throw all these different numbers out there, u NEED to keep in mind than Bron has the rock in his hands more often. Because he's THE POINT FORWARD!!

[bizil]

Melo's mind can be geared towards doing whatever it wants, he still isn't a better scorer any way you look at it, and no mindset can change that.

The only way to explain it to you is that your opinion is wrong, because it isn't actually an opinion. It is just a wrong statement on your part. Melo doesn't even have a bigger skillset in terms of scoring compared to Bron. Just because he throws a couple jabsteps on the outside and has a nice looking jumper, doesn't mean shit if he can't score as well as someone else with it.

Bron scores more in the regular season, more in the playoffs, has higher averages, is more efficient, has more 60, 50, 40, 30 and 20 point games, etc. He dominates the facet of scoring more than Melo does by a long margin. He is a better scorer. You might think the way Melo scores points is prettier, and good for you, but he isn't better at it. I think Jamal Crawford has a pretty game, yet I still don't think he is a better scorer than James Harden.

In my earlier post, Kobe said himself that Melo is his toughest cover in the league. Moreso than Lebron, HE SAID THAT SPECIFICALLY. When u have a legend like Kobe saying that, it carries a lot of weight. Humble yourself and look at this clip:

https://youtu.be/koVnmV6JN48

Once again, I put Bron and Melo on the same tier scoring. For me, I prefer Melo's scoring skillset and approach to scoring. And NBA GM's voted Melo #2 behind KD in terms of players who get their own shot the best:

http://www.nba.com/news/features/john_schuhmann/nba-com-2014-15-gm-survey/

And what the GM's and Kobe are saying ARE THE SAME THINGS I'm basing my arguments on. Stats are very important when evaluating players. But to be frank, the GM's and Kobe ACTUALLY back up the basis of my argument. Which is Melo and Bron are on the same tier as scoring, but Melo has certain facets that people prefer over Bron. I NEVER SAID Bron wasn't clutch or a beast scoring the rock. DAMN!!

And Stephen A Smith has MY BACK!!! He's saying what I'm saying about Melo! He puts him in the top two scorers in the world:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBsVUQr3Rc8

[plowking]

In my earlier post, Kobe said himself than Melo is his toughest cover in the league. Moreso than Lebron, HE SAID THAT SPECIFICALLY. When u have a legend like Kobe saying that, it carries a lot of weight. Humble yourself and look at this clip:

https://youtu.be/koVnmV6JN48

Once again, I put Bron and Melo on the same tier scoring. For me, I prefer Melo's scoring skillset and approach to scoring. And NBA GM's voted Melo #2 behind KD in terms of players who get their own shot the best:

http://www.nba.com/news/features/john_schuhmann/nba-com-2014-15-gm-survey/

And what the GM's and Kobe are saying ARE THE SAME THINGS I'm basing my arguments on. Stats are very important when evaluating players. But to be frank, the GM's and Kobe ACTUALLY back up the basis of my argument. Which is Melo and Bron are on the same tier as scoring, but Melo has certain facets that people prefer over Bron. I NEVER SAID Bron wasn't clutch or a beast scoring the rock. DAMN!!

They aren't backing up anyone's argument. They're offering their opinion just like anybody else. And they're wrong too.

Players say some dumb shit sometimes. Isiaah Thomas said Chalmers is a 20ppg scorer without Lebron. He was clearly right. Look at Chalmers flourishing this season...

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They aren't backing up anyone's argument. They're offering their opinion just like anybody else. And they're wrong too.

Players say some dumb shit sometimes. Isiaah Thomas said Chalmers is a 20ppg scorer without Lebron. He was clearly right. Look at Chalmers flourishing this season...

Well I KNOW ONE THING FOR DAMN SURE!! Kobe's opinion holds A LOT MORE WEIGHT THAN U when it comes to bball. He's an icon who matched up against Melo and Bron. And the Mamba said Carmelo gives him more trouble THAN ANYBODY!! If anything I have some STRONG BACKUP with Kobe, Stephen A, and the NBA GM's. Melo has the pedigree TO BACK UP what Kobe said!! The Thomas-Chalmers shit u brought up is IRRELEVANT because Chalmers DIDN'T have the pedigree for such a dumb ass opinion.