South Carolina Officer Is Charged With Murder in Black Man's Death

[Raymone]

Here we go again. (http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/08/us/south-carolina-officer-is-charged-with-murder-in-black-mans-death.html?_r=0)


A white police officer in North Charleston, S.C., was charged with murder on Tuesday after a video surfaced showing him shooting and killing an apparently unarmed black man in the back while he ran away.

The officer, Michael T. Slager, 33, had said he feared for his life because the man took his stun gun in a scuffle after a traffic stop on Saturday.

Video (graphic) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqrCXIshjzA)

[Joyner82reload]

good riddance

[Jameerthefear]

dude77 will defend this

[Raymone]

Note: we once again only see what happens after this alleged scuffle ensues.

[9erempiree]

I'm usually on the side of authority but that was not necessary.

[oarabbus]

Well shit. Get ready for another shitstorm if he is found not guilty.

[Jameerthefear]

Note: we once again only see what happens after this alleged scuffle ensues.
He shot a guy that was running AWAY from him. Take your happy ass back to /pol/ clown

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

What a fukking idiot. Hope this "officer" dies a slow death.

[oarabbus]

Note: we once again only see what happens after this alleged scuffle ensues.


You DID watch the video YOU posted right? It captures the "alleged scuffle" in proper detail

[9erempiree]

Cops are only half a tier above a security guard. You know how anyone can become a security guard? This is how cops are looked upon now.

[Raymone]

He shot a guy that was running AWAY from him. Take your happy ass back to /pol/ clown

My pointing that out doesn't mean I'm saying this killing was justified.

But there is a difference between talking, running, then getting shot and talking, fighting, running, then getting shot.

[dazzer87]

Al and Jesse on the plane as we speak..........

[zoom17]

If you can't tackle an unarmed man to the ground and arrest him, you don't deserve to be a cop.

[Raymone]

You DID watch the video YOU posted right? It captures the "alleged scuffle" in proper detail

No, it doesn't. The first 18 seconds of the video aren't filming the two individuals.

When the cameraman finally points it at them at 0:18, the black guy is already running.

[Jameerthefear]

My pointing that out doesn't mean I'm saying this killing was justified.

But there is a difference between talking, running, then getting shot and talking, fighting, running, then getting shot.
It doesn't matter what the **** he did. His back was turned. He was absolutely no threat to the officer and was unarmed. You're a f*ggot. Go back to /pol/

[zoom17]

Shoots him in the back and then plants evidence. Wow.

[9erempiree]

The only thing I have to say is the black man shouldn't have ran.

Why are you running?

[Jameerthefear]

guy knocked the taser out of cops hand

and then cop goes and plants it on the body

but cop said in his report that the guy took his taser.
thank god for the video

wow

:facepalm
dude77 and Godzuki will be here soon to defend this. This shit is going to be comical.

[Raymone]

It doesn't matter what the **** he did. His back was turned. He was absolutely no threat to the officer and was unarmed. You're a f*ggot. Go back to /pol/

Let's say the scuffle allegations are true. Would he have been shot if hadn't scuffled with the officer and then ran?

Things to think about.

[Jameerthefear]

Let's say the scuffle allegations are true. Would he have been shot if hadn't scuffled with the officer and then ran?

Things to think about.
Funny how you immediately attach to the word of the guy who blatantly lied in the police report and tried to plant evidence.

[9erempiree]

I see where people are coming from when they say this is a blessing in disguise. It's sad that someone was killed but let this be a lesson to everyone.....

DO NOT RUN FROM THE COPS!

They will kill you. Hopefully this blessing in disguise will make it a safer place for cops and civilian. Cooperate and nothing is going to happen.

Lets be honest here, we haven't seen videos where cops are point blank shooting people in their cars yet without provocations.

[Raymone]

I see where people are coming from when they say this is a blessing in disguise. It's sad that someone was killed but let this be a lesson to everyone.....

DO NOT RUN FROM THE COPS!

They will kill you. Hopefully this blessing in disguise will make it a safer place for cops and civilian. Cooperate and nothing is going to happen.

Lets be honest here, we haven't seen videos where cops are point blank shooting people in their cars yet.

Don't run from cops, and also don't try to grab their stun gun.

[johndeeregreen]

That was severely f*cked up. He didn't even try to pursue, he just immediately decided to pump 8 shots at this guy at short range, and then plants the taser near his body.

They're gonna burn this son of a bitch to the ground, and rightly so.

[Im so nba'd out]

I see where people are coming from when they say this is a blessing in disguise. It's sad that someone was killed but let this be a lesson to everyone.....

DO NOT RUN FROM THE COPS!

They will kill you. Hopefully this blessing in disguise will make it a safer place for cops and civilian. Cooperate and nothing is going to happen.

Lets be honest here, we haven't seen videos where cops are point blank shooting people in their cars yet without provocations.
nice bait m8 :oldlol:

[johndeeregreen]

Let's say the scuffle allegations are true. Would he have been shot if hadn't scuffled with the officer and then ran?
Probably not, but that doesn't mean he deserved to get shot and killed.

[Jameerthefear]

I see where people are coming from when they say this is a blessing in disguise. It's sad that someone was killed but let this be a lesson to everyone.....

DO NOT RUN FROM THE COPS!

They will kill you. Hopefully this blessing in disguise will make it a safer place for cops and civilian. Cooperate and nothing is going to happen.

Lets be honest here, we haven't seen videos where cops are point blank shooting people in their cars yet without provocations.
2/10 bait

[Joyner82reload]

Serious question, when is it ok for a cop to shoot? Let's say he shot this guy in the legs, would that be appropriate? Otherwise you're essentially saying that someone faster than a cop should run away every time that they're going to be arrested, they will get away with no repercussions

[9erempiree]

Lets be real here....if cops kill people for no reason like running....and you already know this....

Why the F are you still running from them?

I know a shark will eat me for no reason, only because he is hungry, should I still be swimming with them?

I'm not defending the cop or the police, I am tired of these idiots that still run from a cop when we have seen them shoot people while fleeing.

Seriously, these police officers don't surprise me anymore. It's the people still running from them that are.

[Jameerthefear]

Serious question, when is it ok for a cop to shoot? Let's say he shot this guy in the legs, would that be appropriate? Otherwise you're essentially saying that someone faster than a cop should run away every time that they're going to be arrested, they will get away with no repercussions
http://www.criminaldefenselawyer.com/crime-penalties/federal/Evading-Arrest-on-Foot.htm

[Riley Martin]

Serious question, when is it ok for a cop to shoot? Let's say he shot this guy in the legs, would that be appropriate? Otherwise you're essentially saying that someone faster than a cop should run away every time that they're going to be arrested, they will get away with no repercussions

If a cop can't subdue someone without jumping right to firing 8 rounds, they probably shouldn't be a cop. This cop didn't even try to pursue. He stood there calmly and let out shots.

[Godzuki]

dumbass shouldn't have scuffled

the other dumbass shouldn't have shot him like that

they're both fukked anyway :sleeping

[9erempiree]

dumbass shouldn't have scuffled

the other dumbass shouldn't have shot him like that

they're both fukked anyway :sleeping

This.

I already know cops have the ability to use judgement, right or wrong, to shoot someone. I learned this at a very young age. They have a gun and you don't want to try something like running.

I have also been pulled over many times and never did I once thought I should run from them.

People know that some cops are racist. Black people know this too and it is mind boggling that these idiots would still run.

[Joyner82reload]

http://www.criminaldefenselawyer.com/crime-penalties/federal/Evading-Arrest-on-Foot.htm

You do realize that a cop has to be able to ID the person for them to be charged with anything, right? Unless the cop is aware of the persons identity, there is nothing that can be done.

[Jameerthefear]

You do realize that a cop has to be able to ID the person for them to be charged with anything, right? Unless the cop is aware of the persons identity, there is nothing that can be done.
Do you have autism? You do know things called cars exist and they go a lot faster than people do. He could have called backup or help or anything to catch this guy.

[9erempiree]

This is not the first time we heard of officers shooting people in the back. If this was the first time then I can understand the outrage.

We already know they will shoot, so why are you so upset about it?

I think people should be sadden by the victims action of running. Suicide.

[Joyner82reload]

White cops have no chance @ catching any other race outside of their own in a footrace.We need to do away with white cops they are not athletic enough to keep up with criminals

You're such an ignorant *****

If cops were subject to yearly testing over sprinting ability, nobody would be a cop. Because whether you like it or not, your speed is going to diminish with age and cops would be forced into retirement by age 35-40 in most cases. So either you would have to drastically increase the payrate of cops, to something like 150k per year, or you deal with it.

[Joyner82reload]

Do you have autism? You do know things called cars exist and they go a lot faster than people do. He could have called backup or help or anything to catch this guy.

Because cars can hop fences and go through a forest. And backup is useless when it takes 5 minutes to arrive.

[TylerOO]

How many times is 9er gonna post until someone replies to him :roll: :roll:

[oarabbus]

Let's say the scuffle allegations are true. Would he have been shot if hadn't scuffled with the officer and then ran?

Things to think about.



Criminal proceedings (this cop has been charged with murder) are based on evidence and facts, not daydreaming and hypotheticals.

Facts:

-The man was not armed when he was shot

-The cop placed the stun gun by the man's body and tried to claim the man had taken the stun gun

[Patrick Chewing]

Almost looks fake. Looks like the cop was buying some crack and then the cameraman spooked the both of them.

[wakencdukest]

That was uncalled for. They need to make an example and give the cop life without parole at the very minimum.

[oarabbus]

That was uncalled for. They need to make an example and give the cop life without parole at the very minimum.

He will probably get 2 weeks without parole (and with pay)

[bballnoob1192]

how the **** that cop shot that many times at a dude that was barely 10-20 feet away from him. That's the most ridiculous thing about this whole incident. we need some gddamn better shots in the police force.

[HitandRun Reggie]

how the **** that cop shot that many times at a dude that was barely 10-20 feet away from him. That's the most ridiculous thing about this whole incident. we need some gddamn better shots in the police force.


I'm guessing you've never shot a handgun before. They aren't precise devices like on some video games. At 20 ft handguns can pattern wildly, especially if someone is shooting under duress.


The cop should have forgot about the taser defense and just sprinkled some crack on him. :biggums:

[gts]

let me say this is the first i've heard of this today and will have to wait until have some time and i'm in front of a computer to read any news article

Question I have are how did they get from the street to there.. The guy got pulled over for a taillight malfunction from what i heard on the radio right?

What are you running from if you're just going to get a fixit ticket?

Why are you shooting somebody over a fixit ticket?

and props to the guy with the huevos big enough to video a cop shooting a guy in that setting... i'd be scared the cop would drop me too if he's going to be brazen enough to shoot a man and plant evidence with a witness right there...

[HitandRun Reggie]

and props to the guy with the huevos big enough to video a cop shooting a guy in that setting... i'd be scared the cop would drop me too if he's going to be brazen enough to shoot a man and plant evidence with a witness right there...


I was thinking the same thing. The guy is clearly witnessing a dirty cop who is highly aggressive, yet he keeps filming. Donkey balls. I'd be afraid of getting framed for something or possibly even shot.

[bballnoob1192]

I'm guessing you've never shot a handgun before. They aren't precise devices like on some video games. At 20 ft handguns can pattern wildly, especially if someone is shooting under duress.


The cop should have forgot about the taser defense and just sprinkled some crack on him. :biggums:
come on i've shot a pistol at a shooting range before. that might not be the same, but that video didn't seem to show that cop under very much duress.

[KingBeasley08]

Dude should be heavily punished for this. Cops lacking accountability is the biggest problem with all these shootings.

[Dictator]

lol at the posters still trying to the defend the officer. Running from an officer does not warrant being shot.

[JohnFreeman]

Imagine if the camera wasn't there.

[9erempiree]

lol at the posters still trying to the defend the officer. Running from an officer does not warrant being shot.

Nobody is defending the officer.

Black people like to say cops are out to get them, possibly true, after knowing this, why would they still run?

Both idiots are going away. One dead and the other will be in prison for life.

[oh the horror]

Any of you gentlemen care to explain why he picks up his taser and then walks it over and drops it near the body?


If it wasn't his taser then what was that?

[Jameerthefear]

Any of you gentlemen care to explain why he picks up his taser and then walks it over and drops it near the body?


If it wasn't his taser then what was that?
He was planting evidence.

[KevinNYC]

Serious question, when is it ok for a cop to shoot?
Serious question, do you recognize that this is an instance when it was not OK to shoot? That this is first degree murder?

[oh the horror]

He was planting evidence.


Seems clear to me. I just wanted to see what people would have to say about that because it seems like business as usual for an officer.

[juju151111]

Seems clear to me. I just wanted to see what people would have to say about that because it seems like business as usual for an officer.
A lot of cops do that. A lot are getting caught recently because technology. Maybe in 40 years every car will have surrounded cameras from all directions to screw these pieces of shits cops even more.

[9erempiree]

Any of you gentlemen care to explain why he picks up his taser and then walks it over and drops it near the body?


If it wasn't his taser then what was that?

Planting evidence like a bad cop.

[PistonsFan#21]

I see where people are coming from when they say this is a blessing in disguise. It's sad that someone was killed but let this be a lesson to everyone.....

DO NOT RUN FROM THE COPS!

They will kill you. Hopefully this blessing in disguise will make it a safer place for cops and civilian. Cooperate and nothing is going to happen.

Lets be honest here, we haven't seen videos where cops are point blank shooting people in their cars yet without provocations.

Are you sure about that?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XFYTtgZAlE

and thats just one video. Imagine all the time it happened with no witnesses or cameras around :facepalm

I dont blame the black guy for running he was gonna get shot anyway might aswell try to escape instead of being shot point blank

[Dictator]

Nobody is defending the officer.

Black people like to say cops are out to get them, possibly true, after knowing this, why would they still run?

Both idiots are going away. One dead and the other will be in prison for life.

Please tell me what makes him an idiot for running?

[Fudge]

White people take the L once again

****ing *******.

[KingBeasley08]

We're lucky as hell someone was recording too. If he wasn't, cop would have said "My life was in danger" and this psychopath would still be working

[BasedTom]

-how tf didn't they see the guy with the camera?

-After hearing the first shots, this dude really thought he could outrun more in a straight line? Barely even ran for his life and tried to find cover, looked like a morning jog.

-Surprisingly good camera work and quality, especially from a cell phone camera.

-the officer is really saying "put your hands behind your back" after he just fired 8 shots at a guy...what.

very weird shit

[DCL]

the south carolina jury finds white cop not guilty due to insufficient evidence

[Smook A.]

Why didn't the officer just run after him and taser him? What a stupid ****. Killing the guy over that was totally unnecessary.

[ThePhantomCreep]

-how tf didn't they see the guy with the camera?

-After hearing the first shots, this dude really thought he could outrun more in a straight line? Barely even ran for his life and tried to find cover, looked like a morning jog.

-Surprisingly good camera work and quality, especially from a cell phone camera.

-the officer is really saying "put your hands behind your back" after he just fired 8 shots at a guy...what.

very weird shit

https://kvasiramongstthegods.files.wordpress.com/2014/04/conspiracy-theories-everywhere.jpg

[RoseCity07]

Still think black people are overreacting? I hope the cop gets murdered. Just shoot him in the head and throw his body in the garbage.

[BasedTom]

https://kvasiramongstthegods.files.wordpress.com/2014/04/conspiracy-theories-everywhere.jpg
not necessarily conspiracy theories, just a lot of terribly unusual things happening at the same time leading me to think "what the actual fck is going on down there?"

[KingBeasley08]

Still think black people are overreacting? I hope the cop gets murdered. Just shoot him in the head and throw his body in the garbage.
This shit's been going on for a long time. Now, with social media white people are starting to find out about it and shit has hit the fan

People think NWA were just trolling when they made "Fck the Police". This shit is an institutional problem with the police

[RoseCity07]

This shit's been going on for a long time. Now, with social media white people are starting to find out about it and shit has hit the fan

People think NWA were just trolling when they made "Fck the Police". This shit is an institutional problem with the police

I know it. I was actually thinking about NWA earlier after seeing this. I remember a scene from Boyz in the Hood where that black cops ****s with Cuba Gooding Jr. Putting the gun in his face. That probably happens 20 times a day with the cop being white and no one around to see it.

[oh the horror]

It's son blatant that he's planting evidence it's almost comical.

[9erempiree]

Please tell me what makes him an idiot for running?

You have autism bro.

Are you seriously trying to tell me it's ok to run from law enforcement?:lol

I thought I have heard it all.

[JohnFreeman]

White people take the L once again

****ing *******.
Reported.

[9erempiree]

Please tell me what makes him an idiot for running?

You have autism bro.

Are you seriously trying to tell me it's ok to run from law enforcement?:lol

I thought I have heard it all.

I'm not defending the cop. Just saying how much of an idiot someone is for running away from the cops, when in fact we know some of the cops shoot for no reason. Why even take that chance?

You can't possibly justify this guy for running. If he didn't run, he would probably still be alive unless the cop is crazy.

[9erempiree]

Still think black people are overreacting? I hope the cop gets murdered. Just shoot him in the head and throw his body in the garbage.

That's the point here, black folks do overreact.

He overreacted by running. What can you possibly be guilty of for running. If he didn't overreact he would still be alive.

Too bad his life was taken to expose to piece of crap cops.

[Dictator]

You have autism bro.

Are you seriously trying to tell me it's ok to run from law enforcement?:lol

I thought I have heard it all.

I'm not defending the cop. Just saying how much of an idiot someone is for running away from the cops, when in fact we know some of the cops shoot for no reason. Why even take that chance?

You can't possibly justify this guy for running. If he didn't run, he would probably still be alive unless the cop is crazy.

Does running away from a cop justify murder? Yes or No

He did the right thing, if he would have stayed in the cops vicinity then that would've been an easy lie the officer could have used for the shooting.

You just said cops shoot for no reason. Should we use the misconduct of a law officer to justify what an individual can or cannot do?

So in your mind, you judge others from the wrong doings of others? How are we suppose to tame these "criminals" when as you've stated police shoot for no reason? You gotta practice what you preach.

Stop It.

[9erempiree]

Does running away from a cop justify murder? Yes or No

He did the right thing, if he would have stayed in the cops vicinity then that would've been an easy lie the officer could have used for the shooting.

You just said cops shoot for no reason. Should we use the misconduct of a law officer to justify what an individual can or cannot do?

So in your mind, you judge others from the wrong doings of others? How are we suppose to tame these "criminals" when as you've stated police shoot for no reason? You gotta practice what you preach.

Stop It.

I will repeat for one last time....if we know that cops shoot people for running than why run in the first place. It's like pulling a gun on a cop and saying "my bad, it was a joke."

Like I said, the cop is a piece of crap and the shooting wasn't justified but you have to be out of your mind to run from a cop, especially for a routine traffic stop.

The victim committed a suicidal act.

Reading comprehension people.

[Dictator]

I will repeat for one last time....if we know that cops shoot people for running than why run in the first place. It's like pulling a gun on a cop and saying "my bad, it was a joke."

Like I said, the cop is a piece of crap and the shooting wasn't justified but you have to be out of your mind to run from a cop, especially for a routine traffic stop.

The victim committed a suicidal act.

Reading comprehension people.

I think you're out of touch with reality. Many people have and will continue to run from cops.

The problem is that for some reason your mind cannot comprehend that shooting an unarmed person for running isn't reasonable nor should it be suicidal on the victims part.

Not matter what, you can't prove he wouldn't have been shot if he didn't run so what are you arguing?

And as stated before, if he wouldn't have ran then surely he would've been playing into a possible exploit by the cops.

What is your argument? We all know you shouldn't flee law enforcement, you stated it multiple times already, but you can't argue wrong with wrong.

Why do you posters believe anything none compliant with a officer is a death wish? This isn't game of thrones, come back to reality. You guys want to live in a shitty world.

[Demon Lizard]

THat cop needs to rot.

[AkronAngel]

What a scumbag piece of shit.

[AkronAngel]

That's the point here, black folks do overreact.

He overreacted by running. What can you possibly be guilty of for running. If he didn't overreact he would still be alive.

Too bad his life was taken to expose to piece of crap cops.

THat wasn't Rose's point though. I'm pretty sure he was talking about black people believing that cops abuse their power and are quick to kill black males.

[NumberSix]

So, here is what appears to have happened...

Cop pulls the man over for a routine traffic violation. At this point the man leaves his car and runs away. Why? Who knows.

At this point the cop obviously must think think man was in the middle of something very illegal for him to just take off like that.

He pursues him and catches up with him. A "scuffles" ensues. The officer tries to use non lethal force and uses his taser and the man makes a move to take the taser. It appears that the taser falls to the ground and the man starts running away. We don't know if the cop knows at this point that the taser is on the ground or if he thinks the man has it.

The cop pulls out his gun and starts shooting. The cop handcuffs the man and then either realizes that the man doesn't have the taser and goes to find it or retrieves where he already knows it to be. It's unclear whether he knew if the man had it when he fired.

When the cop does find/retrieve the taser, he obviously plants it next to the body. I'm sure we can all agree on that.

I think we would all have to agree that the man was acting very suspiciously. He also engaged in a "scuffle" where he did try to take the officers taser. Giving the cop the benefit of the doubt and he actually did believe that the man had his taser and was attempting to run away with it, the question is does that warrant the use of his firearm to stop him. That, I don't know.

[KevinNYC]

So, here is what appears to have happened...

Cop pulls the man over for a routine traffic violation. At this point the man leaves his car and runs away. Why? Who knows.

At this point the cop obviously must think think man was in the middle of something very illegal for him to just take off like that.

He pursues him and catches up with him. A "scuffles" ensues. The officer uses his taser and the man makes a move to take the taser. It appears that the taser falls to the ground and the man starts running away. We don't know if the cop knows at this point that the taser is on the ground or if he thinks the man has it.

The cop pulls out his gun and starts shooting. The cop handcuffs the man and then either realizes that the man doesn't have the taser and goes to find it or retrieves where he already knows it to be. It's unclear whether he knew if the man had it when he fired.

When the cop does find/retrieve the taser, he obviously plants it next to the body. I'm sure we can all agree on that.

I think we would all have to agree that the man was acting very suspiciously. He also engaged in a "scuffle" where he did try to take the officers taser. Giving the cop the benefit of the doubt and he actually did believe that the man had his taser and was attempting to run away with it, the question is does that warrant the use of his firearm to stop him. That, I don't know.
In Missouri they actually gave the grand jury incorrect instructions on this very question. I think they fixed it later, but it was still egregious.

You cannot shoot someone simply to prevent them from escaping.

[9erempiree]

You cannot shoot someone simply to prevent them from escaping.

Only if he is "a harm" to the public.

If a guy with a gun ran away from a cop and was headed towards a huge crowd. Would you let him do it?

[ThePhantomCreep]

So, here is what appears to have happened...

Cop pulls the man over for a routine traffic violation. At this point the man leaves his car and runs away. Why? Who knows.

At this point the cop obviously must think think man was in the middle of something very illegal for him to just take off like that.

He pursues him and catches up with him. A "scuffles" ensues. The officer tries to use non lethal force and uses his taser and the man makes a move to take the taser. It appears that the taser falls to the ground and the man starts running away. We don't know if the cop knows at this point that the taser is on the ground or if he thinks the man has it.

The cop pulls out his gun and starts shooting. The cop handcuffs the man and then either realizes that the man doesn't have the taser and goes to find it or retrieves where he already knows it to be. It's unclear whether he knew if the man had it when he fired.

When the cop does find/retrieve the taser, he obviously plants it next to the body. I'm sure we can all agree on that.

I think we would all have to agree that the man was acting very suspiciously. He also engaged in a "scuffle" where he did try to take the officers taser. Giving the cop the benefit of the doubt and he actually did believe that the man had his taser and was attempting to run away with it, the question is does that warrant the use of his firearm to stop him. That, I don't know.

Careful, you're going to overwork your two remaining brain cells with all the mental gymnastics you're doing.

[ThePhantomCreep]

Only if he is "a harm" to the public.

If a guy with a gun ran away from a cop and was headed towards a huge crowd. Would you let him do it?
Shooting in the direction of a huge crowd is extremely dangerous.

[NumberSix]

Careful, you're going to overwork your two remaining brain cells with all the mental gymnastics you're doing.
Mental gymnastics? :wtf:

I'm literally recounting the scenario without taking any side or drawing any conclusion.

[Fudge]

Mental gymnastics? :wtf:

I'm literally recounting the scenario without taking any side or drawing any conclusion.
Black power!

[9erempiree]

Mental gymnastics? :wtf:

I'm literally recounting the scenario without taking any side or drawing any conclusion.

Why do you think I have to repeat myself here. A bunch of autistics who can't comprehend a message board post.

[KevinNYC]

Only if he is "a harm" to the public.

If a guy with a gun ran away from a cop and was headed towards a huge crowd. Would you let him do it?

It's more involved than that, the guy has to be a danger to the officer or to someone else and you have probable cause the guy has committed a felony.
he also has to be, I believe, an immediate danger to the public. You can say, this guy was going to hurt somebody someday.

So your scenario does not give enough information to judge if the guy is an immediate danger to the crowd. For example, if the guy is running into the crowd to evade capture -blend in and lose the cop- you can't just shoot the guy.

[9erempiree]

So your scenario does not give enough information to judge if the guy is an immediate danger to the crowd. For example, if the guy is running into the crowd to evade capture -blend in and lose the cop- you can't just shoot the guy.

I know what you are trying to say but it doesn't make sense because if a cop was "doing his job" with good intentions, he would never take that gamble of the suspect just blending in.

I believe they are trained to stop a perpetrator as a preventive measure.

[ihoopallday]

I always considered getting into law enforcement after the military. However, I realized there's no way I can be a part of this. Civilians nowadays are scared of police even when they're not committing any crimes. That's sad. Regarding this video, it's clear officers need more training before they're handed a gun and sent out to patrol the streets. Officer was so quick to shoot. Gotta have way better self control in these situations.

[KevinNYC]

I know what you are trying to say but it doesn't make sense because if a cop was "doing his job" with good intentions, he would never take that gamble of the suspect just blending in.

I believe they are trained to stop a perpetrator as a preventive measure.
Sure he would.

Doing it as preventive measure is clearly against the law according to the Supreme Court case. The standard is higher than that. However, the standard is not at all clear on what constitutes danger to others. You have to be able to articulate why the suspect was a danger who had to be shot.

[bdreason]

Serious question, when is it ok for a cop to shoot? Let's say he shot this guy in the legs, would that be appropriate? Otherwise you're essentially saying that someone faster than a cop should run away every time that they're going to be arrested, they will get away with no repercussions


If the guy was wanted for murder or armed robbery, I think it's a different situation. If a guy gets pulled over for a broken tail light... I don't think lethal force is justified.

[KevinNYC]

If the guy was wanted for murder or armed robbery, I think it's a different situation. If a guy gets pulled over for a broken tail light... I don't think lethal force is justified.

A guy wanted for murder or armed robbery definitely fits the category of felon, but it's still illegal to shoot him just to prevent him from escaping. It's illegal to shoot him if he is unarmed. This has been the case since Tennesse vs Gardner in 1985. If that suspect is armed and poses a danger to the cop or the community, you can shoot him as he flees.

[ThePhantomCreep]

Mental gymnastics? :wtf:

I'm literally recounting the scenario without taking any side or drawing any conclusion.

You're doing everything in your power to excuse the shooting.


Giving the cop the benefit of the doubt and he actually did believe that the man had his taser and was attempting to run away with it, the question is does that warrant the use of his firearm to stop him.

The answer to your dumb question is "no". Either way, giving a man who planted evidence the "benefit of the doubt" is just :coleman:

[NumberSix]

You're doing everything in your power to excuse the shooting.
I've in no way claimed the shooting was excusable. I'm not on any side.

The answer to your dumb question is "no". Either way, giving a man who planted evidence the "benefit of the doubt" is just :coleman:
Planting the evidence is a fact. It's not debatable. Whether or not he knew the taser was on the ground or in the mans possession at the moment of the shooting is not a fact. It's not provable one way or the other and in our legal system, the accused receives the benefit of the doubt in that case. :hammerhead:

[dude77]

I think we should all calm down and wait for further information

[dude77]

damn they're gonna bury this guy .. no bond, eligible for the death penalty .. doj investigating

also, that was some astute camera work .. caught the shooting, then caught the very subtle and discreet evidence planting .. I wonder where he was standing that they never saw him .. talk about 'busted' ..

also the other cop is an accessory .. although I don't see anything about him being charged .. these guys are like a gang .. they're not gonna snitch on each other

[Dresta]

Still think black people are overreacting? I hope the cop gets murdered. Just shoot him in the head and throw his body in the garbage.
I think the latter part of your post is an overreaction, whatever the colour of your skin. You're basically advocating a lynching, and that is the kind of mentality that allowed lynching to prosper in the first place (btw blacks were certainly not the only people to be lynched). Any proliferation of the mob-lynch mentality is stupid and harmful.

[Jameerthefear]

I think we should all calm down and wait for further information
:roll:

[CasterL]

Pretty ****ed up. The guy shouldn't have scrabbled with the cop for his taser although he may have just been shit scared of getting tased.

It's not clear whether the cop went for his taser and the dude just panicked, or whether the guy actually wanted to take it an use it against him. Either way it didn't warrant that.

The cop didn't give chase, aims pretty high and unloads a lot of shots. It looks like he hit him a good few times before he went down.

That and the planting of evidence = scumbag.

[NumberSix]

It is somewhat interesting though that nobody seems to be concerned with the black officer who was right there while the white officer was planting evidence.

[dude77]

it's weird that they didn't see the guy filming .. the camera guy is behind the chain link fence and appears to be in plain sight .. they didn't even try to look around .. or maybe they did but were trying to play it off so they didn't look 'defensive' aka guilty ..

the other cop needs to be looked into .. possible accessory after the fact .. however, he could argue that he didn't see him drop the taser

[KevinNYC]

the other cop needs to be looked into .. possible accessory after the fact .. however, he could argue that he didn't see him drop the taser

It would be interesting to see the other cop's report. If he coordinated his story with the other cop, he should go down.

[Im so nba'd out]

i wonder if there will ever be a day where we stop killing each other or will we fight up until the day the earth ends

[Patrick Chewing]

i wonder if there will ever be a day where we stop killing each other or will we fight up until the day the earth ends


The day when we all repent and give our souls to Jesus Christ.

[Im so nba'd out]

The day when we all repent and give our souls to Jesus Christ.
i mean if god doesnt exist and we die out because of the suns exploding

[Joyner82reload]

So apparently the guy ran away because he was years behind on his child support payments and was going to be arrested. Shitty reason to die, but the guy was a deadbeat. As for the cops, both of them(white & black) deserve life in prison for planting evidence.

[Im so nba'd out]

Planting the evidence afterwards makes it so much worse.He basically would of lived with this secret his whole life.Planting the evidence proves that deep down he didnt think it was justifiable.No matter what happens he should never be allowed to have a legal gun again + life on parole if he is ever caught with a firearm he should have to serve time

[AceManIII]

I really hope that 2nd officer and the whole departmant are investigated.

[NoGunzJustSkillz]

the cop's lawyer immediately stopped representing the officer when he saw the video

heh
is this true?

[iamgine]

I always thought the protocol is to give a warning shot and "stop or I will shoot" command. If the person still runs then by all means shoot him.

[warriorfan]

sad but you dont run from the police...common sense

[Patrick Chewing]

I guess the show COPS is full of shit, cause every time somebody dips on a cop, they immediately engage in a foot pursuit.


This guy was 50 years old and frumpy. He could've been tackled in no time.

[Dresta]

He shot him 8 times? What's wrong with these people? :facepalm

And apparently he ran because he owed child support

:kobe:

[Im so nba'd out]

only in america do we blame the victim :facepalm.

[ThePhantomCreep]

only in america do teabilly dipshits blame the victim, especially if he's black :facepalm.

Fixed

[Dresta]

Feminism got this man killed let's be real
:lol

This could well be more a consequence of misandry than racism. I mean, if this guy was pals with LOLCATS he may well still be alive.

:yaohappy:

[DonDadda59]

If there was no video the narrative would've been 'we scuffled over my gun, he punched me several times, he got my taser and said 'you're dead meat, pig' and because I was in fear for my life I shot him as he was picking up the taser to shoot me with it'.

Blatantly tampered with the crime scene to build a false narrative. :facepalm

[Akrazotile]

If there was no video the narrative would've been 'we scuffled over my gun, he punched me several times, he got my taser and said 'you're dead meat, pig' and because I was in fear for my life I shot him as he was picking up the taser to shoot me with it'.

Blatantly tampered with the crime scene to build a false narrative. :facepalm

Agreed in this instance.

However, I still have some sympathies for the cop in instaces where dudes try to run away. Being a cop is stressful enough, chasing a criminal through unknown territory has to be scary as fukk. You have no idea if one of this guys amigos is gonna pop out and shoot you dead.

But if they dont give chase, criminals can just simply run away every time and whats the point of having cops?


So if youre a cop, you have a guy who just broke the law, youre trying to do your job and detain the guy, and now hes gonna make you chase after him and potentially put your own life at risk?

I mean when cops fukk with people for no reason, I'm very outspoken about it. In situations like these, I think it's probably pretty tempting to just shoot the dude. We all sit and act like we're perfectly restrained angels, but if someone's ****ing with YOUR shit, and you have the chance to just shoot em and call it an accident... I think a lot of people would be pretty tempted by that.


Again, we cant permit it legally, of course. But I can understand the frustration that leads to incidences like these.

[oarabbus]

I always thought the protocol is to give a warning shot and "stop or I will shoot" command. If the person still runs then by all means shoot him.

the hell.... no that's not true at all. Unless they are a danger to the public and armed


You really thought police can shoot someone if they run as long as they say "stop or I will shoot"? :oldlol:

[ThePhantomCreep]

If there was no video the narrative would've been 'we scuffled over my gun, he punched me several times, he got my taser and said 'you're dead meat, pig' and because I was in fear for my life I shot him as he was picking up the taser to shoot me with it'.

Blatantly tampered with the crime scene to build a false narrative. :facepalm

Exactly. Like this:


The cop said Brown trapped him inside his police cruiser and then clocked him in the face.

“I had reached out my window with my right hand to grab onto his forearm ’cause I was gonna try and move him back and get out of the car to where I’m no longer trapped,” Wilson said, noting that he felt overmatched.

“I just felt the immense power that he had. And then the way I’ve described it is it was like a 5-year-old holding onto Hulk Hogan,” he said. “That’s just how big this man was.”
Brown was the same height as Wilson, 6-foot-4, but his bulky frame was about 80 pounds heavier than the cop, who weighs 210 pounds. Wilson said he drew his gun to save himself. “I didn’t know if I’d be able to withstand another hit like that,” the officer said.

Darren Wilson, shortly after his near-death experience with Hulk Hogan.

http://www.thenation.com/sites/default/files/ferguson_police_officer_darren_wilson.0.0.jpg

:rolleyes:

[oarabbus]

^ the worst part about that is Wilson is 6'4" 210lbs. he's a big ****ing dude himself.

If Wilson was 5'9" 180 there might be some merit to his claim, but he's full of shit.

Brown shouldn't have assaulted the cop though, that's not up for debate.

[24-Inch_Chrome]

Does anyone know South Carolina state law as far as what constitutes a justified shooting? The cop definitely tampered with evidence, which to me implies that he knew the shooting was illegal, but I'm curious.

I remember reading that the Ferguson shooting technically was justified under state law (might have been federal?), something about an officer having the right to shoot a fleeing felon if they believed that the felon would pose a violent risk to the community if they escaped (as well as the standard 'officer can shoot if they feel their safety is being threatened'). I'm wondering if that same justification (whether its fair/accurate or not) works in South Carolina too?

[Fudge]

White ppl stay taking L's.

BLACK POWER.

BLACK LIVES MATTER!

[ace23]

I always thought the protocol is to give a warning shot and "stop or I will shoot" command. If the person still runs then by all means shoot him.
"Do exactly as I say or I will kill you" :roll: :roll:

[KyrieTheFuture]

Feminism got this man killed let's be real
Jameer?

[Joyner82reload]

White ppl stay taking L's.

BLACK POWER.

BLACK LIVES MATTER!

blacks are 25X more likely to commit violent crime against whites than vice versa.

if black people were eliminated from the united states
prison population would decrease by 37%
average IQ would go up by 7 points
Gang violence would be decreased by 53%
Obesity would go down by 12%
AIDS & HIV presence would decrease by 67%
Average income would go up by $20,000
Poverty rate would go down by over 30%
Homelessness would go decrease by 57%
Number of welfare recipients would go down by 40%

Staggering changes by eliminating only 12% of the country

[dude77]

blacks are 25X more likely to commit violent crime against whites than vice versa.

if black people were eliminated from the united states
prison population would decrease by 37%
average IQ would go up by 7 points
Gang violence would be decreased by 53%
Obesity would go down by 12%
AIDS & HIV presence would decrease by 67%
Average income would go up by $20,000
Poverty rate would go down by over 30%
Homelessness would go decrease by 57%
Number of welfare recipients would go down by 40%

Staggering changes by eliminating only 12% of the country

:oldlol: fudge with shit all over her face

[9erempiree]

blacks are 25X more likely to commit violent crime against whites than vice versa.

if black people were eliminated from the united states
prison population would decrease by 37%
average IQ would go up by 7 points
Gang violence would be decreased by 53%
Obesity would go down by 12%
AIDS & HIV presence would decrease by 67%
Average income would go up by $20,000
Poverty rate would go down by over 30%
Homelessness would go decrease by 57%
Number of welfare recipients would go down by 40%

Staggering changes by eliminating only 12% of the country

This is the most interesting thing that is posted in the thread.

[ThePhantomCreep]

blacks are 25X more likely to commit violent crime against whites than vice versa.

if black people were eliminated from the united states
prison population would decrease by 37%
average IQ would go up by 7 points
Gang violence would be decreased by 53%
Obesity would go down by 12%
AIDS & HIV presence would decrease by 67%
Average income would go up by $20,000
Poverty rate would go down by over 30%
Homelessness would go decrease by 57%
Number of welfare recipients would go down by 40%

Staggering changes by eliminating only 12% of the country

How many centuries of a oppression again?

[Fudge]

BLACK LIVES MATTER.

LEAVE BLACK PEOPLE ALONE, you piece of shit Whites!

[Joyner82reload]

How many centuries of a oppression again?

Funny that the chinese didn't have that problem, despite going through extreme prejudice and oppression as well upon immigration into the US. Neither did the jews despite the extreme antisemitism they've been faced with.

[HitandRun Reggie]

blacks are 25X more likely to commit violent crime against whites than vice versa.


AIDS & HIV presence would decrease by 67%




I seriously doubt these parts are true

[ThePhantomCreep]

Funny that the chinese didn't have that problem, despite going through extreme prejudice and oppression as well upon immigration into the US. Neither did the jews despite the extreme antisemitism they've been faced with.

How many centuries of oppression did they face again? And by oppression, I mean literally enslaved by the white man.

[Joyner82reload]

I seriously doubt these parts are true

http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/images/web/statistics_graph_race_615x480.jpg

[KyrieTheFuture]

Funny that the chinese didn't have that problem, despite going through extreme prejudice and oppression as well upon immigration into the US. Neither did the jews despite the extreme antisemitism they've been faced with.
:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

Oh my god.

[Joyner82reload]

How many centuries of oppression did they face again? And by oppression, I mean literally enslaved by the white man.

How many years of slavery have current day african americans been faced with? What about their parents? Or Grandparents?

[AkronAngel]

only in america do we blame the victim :facepalm.

Not true. There was a thread just the other day of a rape victim in the middle east being punished.

[ThePhantomCreep]

How many years of slavery have current day african americans been faced with? What about their parents? Or Grandparents?

The grandparents had to deal with legalized racism, for sure. But yeah, I suppose enslaving and marginalizing an entire race of people for four centuries wouldn't have long-term consequences. Especially with the grinding poverty blacks had to deal with post-Jim Crow. No reparations, no attempts by the government to get them up to speed after centuries of oppression, nothing. Here's your freedom, and off you go. You're a real genius.

Why are you and the other Klansmen trying to high-jack this thread anyway? Pissed off that the dirty cop didn't get away with it this time?

[Joyner82reload]

The grandparents had to deal with legalized racism, for sure. But yeah, I suppose enslaving and marginalizing an entire race of people for four centuries wouldn't have long-term consequences. Especially with the grinding poverty blacks had to deal with post-Jim Crow. No reparations, no attempts by the government to get them up to speed after centuries of oppression, nothing. Here's your freedom, and off you go. You're a real genius.

Why are you and the other Klansmen trying to high-jack this thread anyway? Pissed off that the dirty cop didn't get away with it this time?

The jews seemed fine post WWII despite the fact that their enslavement was much harsher than what blacks were faced with. I don't see Israel being a shit hole and it's only been 70 years. But yes, let's blame the government. Typical black narrative, blaming those in charge for the shortcomings of your race.

[dude77]

there are plenty of blacks who do just fine so stop making excuses about 'slavery' .. that shit is a ****in' joke .. these excuses actually paint blacks in an even worse light because it makes them look as if they're retarded children who 'just can't help themselves' .. 'slavery' doesn't stop successful blacks .. everyone has a choice to follow a good, proper path or the wrong path

[ThePhantomCreep]

The jews seemed fine post WWII despite the fact that their enslavement was much harsher than what blacks were faced with. But yes, let's blame the government. Typical black narrative, blaming those in charge for the shortcomings of your race.

The Jews had the United States and other world powers backing them in the creation of Israel--they probably get more financial aid from the US in one decade than AAs did in 400+ years as citizens of this country.

The Jews didn't live dirt poor before the rise of Hitler. In fact, Hitler used their affluence to breed resentment among the German people. Their oppression in Europe lasted 12 years, not four hundred.

Next time, use a comparison that isn't painfully stupid.

[AkronAngel]

there are plenty of blacks who do just fine so stop making excuses about 'slavery' .. that shit is a ****in' joke .. these excuses actually paint blacks in an even worse light because it makes them look as if they're retarded children who 'just can't help themselves' .. 'slavery' doesn't stop successful blacks .. everyone has a choice to follow a good, proper path or the wrong path

I agree that slavery is no longer the issue, but there are disadvantages against them still (like cops shooting them with no good reason). They have a higher hill to climb, but if they stop making excuses, they can make progress.

[9erempiree]

Gay black men make more money than straight black men. I don't think blacks are being held back when the most discriminated people, flaming fakkits, make more money than them.

Black dudes need to stop using slavery as an excuse. It's time to man up or put on that dress.

http://madamenoire.com/522725/study-gay-black-men-get-more-jobs-higher-salaries-than-straight-ones/

[dude77]

I agree that slavery is no longer the issue, but there are disadvantages against them still (like cops shooting them with no good reason). They have a higher hill to climb, but if they stop making excuses, they can make progress.

cops shoot all kinds of people .. cops rough up seniors lol .. blacks aren't some sole target they come after .. rogue cops are a danger to anyone

again .. plenty of blacks do well and live honest lives .. so excusing the ones who decide it's ok to break into houses and rape and kill because of slavery is ****in' ridiculous .. again we all MAKE CHOICES .. you can choose to be a piece of shit or you can choose to go on a better path .. all else is bullshit and excuses

[Draz]

Now this is something you blacks and us human beings need to come together and say that shouldn't of happened. **** that he couldn't restrain the guy?

[Joyner82reload]

The Jews had the United States and other world powers backing them in the creation of Israel--they probably get more financial aid from the US in one decade than AAs did in 400+ years as citizens of this country.

The Jews didn't live dirt poor before the rise of Hitler. In fact, Hitler used their affluence to breed resentment among the German people. Their oppression in Europe lasted 12 years, not four hundred.

Next time, use a comparison that isn't painfully stupid.

No, Israel got financial aid from Germany due to an agreement with the UN. And that was because 70% of their entire ****ing race in Europe was methodically murdered in a 10 year span. And it was $7,000 per surviving jew, oh man. What a fortuitous gesture seeing as they had likely seen the majority of the entire family murdered before them.

Jews had nothing after world war 2. All of their possessions were stolen by the german government and used to finance the war front.

Want to discuss the chinese immigration into the US? The Chinese Exclusion act and all of the bullshit discrimination they were faced with? The construction of the railway was damn near another form of slavery for the chinese and they had no voice in legislature whatsoever. How did they prosper?

[9erempiree]

So how many years does it take a race to get back on its feet?

Go look back to every races' mother country. Africa isn't a booming or an advancing society. Compare it to Asia and China, where the economy is booming and China is building a lot of these monstrous skyscrapers. They are even making cars.

This is how you know if a country or its people are smart. Can they produce an automobile?

Look at Africa and most of the countries there, they are borderline 3rd world.

They never had it in them. While asian-americans are competing with whitey, blacks are complaining.

[HitandRun Reggie]

http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/images/web/statistics_graph_race_615x480.jpg


I'm not seeing how this proves your point. I can't even see what the graph is for.

[Patrick Chewing]

And again, all the media outlets make it a point to say or write, "White police officer shoots unarmed black man."

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

And again, all the media outlets make it a point to say or write, "White police officer shoots unarmed black man."
They make a killing on these headlines; scumbags.

[KevinNYC]

And the thread takes it usual ish turn

[oarabbus]

And again, all the media outlets make it a point to say or write, "White police officer shoots unarmed black man."


Is that factually incorrect?

[Joyner82reload]

And the thread takes it usual ish turn

Blame it on the black supremacist that started the Black>White nonsense.

[Joyner82reload]

Is that factually incorrect?

Seeing as blacks are 25 times more likely to commit acts of criminal violence against whites than vice versa, it's a ridiculous headline.

[Joyner82reload]

I'm not seeing how this proves your point. I can't even see what the graph is for.

Rate of HIV presence per X population
https://www.aids.gov/images/raceethnicity.gif

[Patrick Chewing]

Is that factually incorrect?


Why does the race of both individuals matter??

If we're trying to live together as a society of equals, we will never be equals as long as we hide behind labels.

[oarabbus]

Seeing as blacks are 25 times more likely to commit acts of criminal violence against whites than vice versa, it's a ridiculous headline.


The statistics are great and all, but is the headline, "Unarmed black man shot by white cop" factually incorrect? :confusedshrug:

[KingBeasley08]

Slavery isn't really the reason why Blacks started at a disadvantage. It has more to do with Jim Crow laws where local laws basically screwed them over at all times. Hell, even successful Black neighborhoods got ****ed over.

Yall should read up on the Tulsa Massacre. One of the nicest cities in America that got destroyed and has never been the same. Perpetrators of that were never even punished

[Joyner82reload]

The statistics are great and all, but is the headline, "Unarmed black man shot by white cop" factually incorrect? :confusedshrug:

Probably because the entire purpose of the headline is to race bait for ratings, they care about "change" is nothing but pretense. The headline does nothing but further separate america racially, it's not bringing it together.

[ThePhantomCreep]

No, Israel got financial aid from Germany due to an agreement with the UN. And that was because 70% of their entire ****ing race in Europe was methodically murdered in a 10 year span. And it was $7,000 per surviving jew, oh man. What a fortuitous gesture seeing as they had likely seen the majority of the entire family murdered before them.

Jews had nothing after world war 2. All of their possessions were stolen by the german government and used to finance the war front.

Want to discuss the chinese immigration into the US? The Chinese Exclusion act and all of the bullshit discrimination they were faced with? The construction of the railway was damn near another form of slavery for the chinese and they had no voice in legislature whatsoever. How did they prosper?

WTF are you talking about--Israel gets financial aid to this very day. Yes, they were done wrong, but the world powers helped them get back off their feet. Germany and Japan started the g-damn war and they received enormous sums to help pick up the pieces. Comparatively speaking, blacks in America received jack and shit.

Want to see what white countries look like when they get held down? Look at the nations that comprised the Iron Curtain. Dirt poor and barely productive for decades. That's what oppression causes. It has nothing to do with race, and everything to do with economics. Sorry to burst your bubble, David Duke.

Oh, and do you really want to compare the Chinese, who probably made up less than 0.1% of the population in the 1800s, with AAs? The vast majority of our modern-day Chinese population arrives via immigration, and they usually come with money. Totally different scenarios.

[oarabbus]

Probably because the entire purpose of the headline is to race bait for ratings, they could care less about "change". The headline does nothing but further separate america racially, it's not bringing it together.


Neither is you parading all these statistics about how black people are far more likely to kill white people than vice versa. It's divisive.

Newspapers never have and never will care about "change" if it isn't a consequence of their ratings, it really has nothing to do with race. This is how they operate in every area.

[Joyner82reload]

Neither is you parading all these statistics about how black people are far more likely to kill white people than vice versa. It's divisive.

Newspapers never have and never will care about "change" if it isn't a consequence of their ratings, it really has nothing to do with race. This is how they operate in every area.

One is an individual, another is mass media. There is a major difference and my remarks were in response to "black>whitey, white=obsolete, we president now" bullshit

[KingBeasley08]

One is an individual, another is mass media. There is a major difference and my remarks were in response to "black>whitey, white=obsolete, we president now" bullshit
Those people are just trolling for a reaction

[9erempiree]

I just wish more black people would listen to Tommy Sotomayor.

He is the only black leader that makes any sense.

[KevinNYC]

Does anyone know South Carolina state law as far as what constitutes a justified shooting? The cop definitely tampered with evidence, which to me implies that he knew the shooting was illegal, but I'm curious.

I remember reading that the Ferguson shooting technically was justified under state law (might have been federal?), something about an officer having the right to shoot a fleeing felon if they believed that the felon would pose a violent risk to the community if they escaped (as well as the standard 'officer can shoot if they feel their safety is being threatened'). I'm wondering if that same justification (whether its fair/accurate or not) works in South Carolina too?
State Law doesn't matter. The standard since 1985 has been determined by a Supreme Court case, Tennessee v Garner. So that Missouri Law was unconstitutional, but it seems it was still on the books unchanged.

Prior to the 1985 law, some states had laws that allowed you to shoot a fleeing felon to prevent his escape even if he was unarmed. After 1985, the suspect has to pose an immediate threat.
Where the suspect poses no immediate threat to the officer and no threat to others, the harm resulting from failing to apprehend him does not justify the use of deadly force to do so. …A police officer may not seize an unarmed, non-dangerous suspect by shooting him dead

[Joyner82reload]

Those people are just trolling for a reaction

Then you should blame them for the racial discussions launched on this public forum.

[Joyner82reload]

I just wish more black people would listen to Tommy Sotomayor.

He is the only black leader that makes any sense.

He's considered an uncle tom by the black community.

[24-Inch_Chrome]

State Law doesn't matter. The standard since 1985 has been determined by a Supreme Court case, Tennessee v Garner. So that Missouri Law was unconstitutional, but it seems it was still on the books unchanged.

Prior to the 1985 law, some states had laws that allowed you to shoot a fleeing felon to prevent his escape even if he was unarmed. After 1985, the suspect has to pose an immediate threat.

Thanks, I couldn't remember exactly what I had read/how up to date it was.

[KevinNYC]

Then you should blame them for the racial discussions launched on this public forum.You need to look in the mirror
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=11202220&postcount=2

[KingBeasley08]

You need to look in the mirror
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=11202220&postcount=2
Exactly.


And I'm pretty sure most of those people saying "Black>>White" aren't even Black

[Joyner82reload]

You need to look in the mirror
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=11202220&postcount=2

I believe this entire event was a net positive. We got rid of a criminal who ditched his family and failed to pay his child support. We're getting rid of 2 dirty cops, the white one who murdered the criminal and planted evidence in addition to the black cop who stood by and let everything happen as if it was following standard procedure. 3 pieces of shit gone at 1 time. Progress.

[KyrieTheFuture]

The jews seemed fine post WWII despite the fact that their enslavement was much harsher than what blacks were faced with. I don't see Israel being a shit hole and it's only been 70 years. But yes, let's blame the government. Typical black narrative, blaming those in charge for the shortcomings of your race.
Oh so you're saying Jews in Israel and american black people received the same amount of money and military attention guaranteeing their success?

[ThePhantomCreep]

Missing child support payments warrants death now. :rolleyes:

We have some true scumbags on these forums.

[Joyner82reload]

Serious question for you guys, what is Africa's excuse? Every continent is hundreds of years ahead of Africa in terms of development, why?

[Joyner82reload]

Missing child support payments warrants death now. :rolleyes:

We have some true scumbags on this forums.

The guy had been arrested more than 10 times.

[ace23]

****** be trolling hard af. Derailed the thread and everything :lol

[mehyaM24]

unbelievable. this cop has done so much damage by being a complete idiot it is impossible to articulate.

accusations against cops are already high (many not even warranted), and this moron murders a so-called black man. smh.

if you wanted to damage this country greatly, it would be difficult to find a better way. every good cop out there should be furious with this idiot.

[chazzy]

I think we should all calm down and wait for further information
:oldlol:

[Jameerthefear]

****** be trolling hard af. Derailed the thread and everything :lol
jeff let his site turn to strom front overnight. dude is a ****ing joke.

[KingBeasley08]

jeff let his site turn to strom front overnight. dude is a ****ing joke.
nah not complete storm front yet. that place is also anti-semetic as hell. jeff got no problem with racists but when it comes to dissing jews, shit hits the fan :lol

[tontoz]

That was severely f*cked up. He didn't even try to pursue, he just immediately decided to pump 8 shots at this guy at short range, and then plants the taser near his body.

They're gonna burn this son of a bitch to the ground, and rightly so.


I can certainly see why he wouldnt pursue. That guy was so fast there is no way the cop could have caught him. :rolleyes:

I am surprised the cop didn't notice the guy filming it.

[tontoz]

You do realize that a cop has to be able to ID the person for them to be charged with anything, right? Unless the cop is aware of the persons identity, there is nothing that can be done.

Yeah it isnt like the cop had the guys car to id him with. Oh wait...

[nightprowler10]

Serious question for you guys, what is Africa's excuse? Every continent is hundreds of years ahead of Africa in terms of development, why?
:oldlol: you need to up your game and not be so obvious.

[warriorfan]

Missing child support payments warrants death now. :rolleyes:

We have some true scumbags on these forums.


blacks dont care about deadbeat dads, version of stockholm syndrom

[KevinNYC]

The guy who shot the video is going to be interviewed on MSNBC tonight.

[NumberSix]

The statistics are great and all, but is the headline, "Unarmed black man shot by white cop" factually incorrect? :confusedshrug:
Right, because if the news had headlines like "black attacker rapes and murders white grandmother", you'd have no problem with it as long as it's accurate.

[NumberSix]

State Law doesn't matter. The standard since 1985 has been determined by a Supreme Court case, Tennessee v Garner. So that Missouri Law was unconstitutional, but it seems it was still on the books unchanged.

Prior to the 1985 law, some states had laws that allowed you to shoot a fleeing felon to prevent his escape even if he was unarmed. After 1985, the suspect has to pose an immediate threat.
:wtf:

[ThePhantomCreep]

Right, because if the news had headlines like "black attacker rapes and murders white grandmother", you'd have no problem with it as long as it's accurate.
Meh. Blacks generally come out on the worse end of biased headlines. You probably didn't notice, but your brain did:

http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/5673291

[BasedTom]

Meh. Blacks generally come out on the worse end of biased headlines. You probably didn't notice, but your brain did:

http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/5673291
huffingtonpost lol

it's an opinion piece

[24-Inch_Chrome]

Huffingtonpost is the ****ing worst imo, it's been so long since I saw anything of value come out of that site. It's reached a point where I feel kinda gross when I agree with something they've posted.

[ThePhantomCreep]

Attacking the source = Lame counter

[BasedTom]

Attacking the source = Lame counter
You could have posted some statistical data or something. Huffpost is on a similar level to fox news...

[Dresta]

WTF are you talking about--Israel gets financial aid to this very day. Yes, they were done wrong, but the world powers helped them get back off their feet. Germany and Japan started the g-damn war and they received enormous sums to help pick up the pieces. Comparatively speaking, blacks in America received jack and shit.

Want to see what white countries look like when they get held down? Look at the nations that comprised the Iron Curtain. Dirt poor and barely productive for decades. That's what oppression causes. It has nothing to do with race, and everything to do with economics. Sorry to burst your bubble, David Duke.

Oh, and do you really want to compare the Chinese, who probably made up less than 0.1% of the population in the 1800s, with AAs? The vast majority of our modern-day Chinese population arrives via immigration, and they usually come with money. Totally different scenarios.
Sorry, but this is just nonsense. You can't compare the wealth and trials of a whole country to the wealth and difficulties of a single minority within a country. Not only that, but comparing what the nations of Eastern Europe faced over the past century to what black Americans have faced over the same period is downright offensive: they are complete worlds apart. They have been through one desolation after another. Black people in American aren't 'oppressed': they're privileged in comparison, and have lived far more privileged lives than the still living generations of Eastern Europe. Yes, blacks had to deal with racist discrimination and lynchings, but this is nothing compared to what these countries had to deal with, who were raped and ransacked on a mass-scale, massacred and dumped into mass-graves. You clearly know nothing of this, and are typically weighed down with disproportionate knowledge of American history and injustices over all others (so you have no perspective - thank the insular and idiotic American education system for that).

Nor does your whining over 'centuries of oppression' mean anything. So? Whose ancestors haven't been 'oppressed' at some point? All this oppression and misery and slavery and servitude was necessary for you to even be born (for anyone to be, really). So why is it only black people who have the right to demand restitution? You know Ukraine ethnically cleansed over 200,000 Poles during WW2? Do you know what holding onto and constantly complaining about these kind of historical injustices leads to? More conflict and war - see the Ukraine, see the civil war within Islam, see what will happen here if you keep pursuing these inane, divisive, and ultimately, self-destructive policies.

The Chinese were (unsure whether they still are) legally and openly discriminated against in Malaysia (while significantly out-earning Malaysians). The Jews have been held down everywhere they've been, and yet have thrived economically. Again 'oppression' doesn't explain away gaps in wealth - the real problem is more likely indulgence, and the self-destructive culture that leads to 75% of children being born out of wedlock. Between the end of the Civil War and LBJ blacks had a proportional increase in wealth and living standards unprecedented in the world - since then? Things have come to a grinding halt, and now look to be going backwards. What's your reason for this? The magical increase of racism? So, blaming the agency of the white man for the structural failings of black families?

Do you know how many minorities have faced a long history discrimination and oppression just in the United States? Know how many of them face the current problems black communities are now dealing with? None. Why? Because blacks were the only minority group that were treated like children who couldn't help themselves, indulged and patronised into a cultural vacuum of imbecility. Hatred and fear of the Catholics in the North figured heavily among abolitionists - so many Americans were working for the freedom of blacks while trying to get rid of Catholics (who also faced official discrimination), and the Irish were treated like shit for a long time (both Irish and Italian were poverty-ridden and ghettoised, and yet now they have greater earnings than your average white American man - how could this be possible with such obstacles placed in their path?). Though now every ethnic group is shoved together in racist fashion under the moniker 'white men of privilege.'

If discrimination was a salient factor then none of this would be possible.

I find it incredible how people can pursue and support policies for forty years, and then when they fail, instead of admitting they don't work, cry 'it only didn't work because it wasn't enough;' the solution for a failed policy is only ever more and more of the same policies - could anything be more arrogant, more vain and pointlessly stubborn (either that or completely ahistorical).

Black people are still disproportionately discriminated against (or in favour) in 3 major ways: the drug war, the minimum wage law (have a look at how it originated: racism, complaints about low paid blacks from the South stealing the jobs of whites), and welfare dependency; these are all mutually reenforcing and produce the spiral of hopelessness (and consequent blaming of others) that is so prevalent today. Your kind of propaganda doesn't help and only makes these problems worse, so now you have many black people not even bothering because they've been told so many times how unfairly the world is stacked against them, when this is really a gross exaggeration. Making young black kids think the world will not permit them to succeed is just throwing another obstacle in their path, another impediment to their success.

If you can't recognise that the government sets incentives for people with its policies, and this significantly affects the actions taken by individuals. And if you can't recognise that the incentives the government has created are a direct impediment to prosperity, then honestly, you must be blind or mentally challenged, the evidence is so thorough. If people refuse to acknowledge that efficacious cultural values are a salient predisposition for wealth creation, and that these values need to be built and cultivated amongst families if they are to be successful in life, then no progress will ever be made. Handing things to people simply has never and will never work (see how a child acts if you give him everything he wants - obnoxious and entitled - it is the same principle, adults are simply better at hiding their true motivations).

[JerrySeinfeld]

Huffingtonpost sucks so much dick.

The reason the media treats white killers "differently" is all about appeal. It's much easier to get ratings when you sell the white guy as the mastermind and the black guy as the gangster. I mean yeah, call it racist if you want but the media doesn't seem to give a shit so neither do I.

And watching that video it almost seemed like it was a fake viral video with how ridiculous it was for the cop to shoot that guy running away

[Draz]

That cop is probably shitting bricks his life is OVER

On the other end of the tadpole now

[gts]

Dash cam footage of the traffic stop before the fatal encounter

http://abc7.com/news/south-carolina-police-shooting-dash-cam-video-shows-chase/645388/

[KingBeasley08]

Dash cam footage of the traffic stop before the fatal encounter

http://abc7.com/news/south-carolina-police-shooting-dash-cam-video-shows-chase/645388/
Yep, so there wasn't even a fight. This is it. No excuses for the cop now

[NumberSix]

Yep, so there wasn't even a fight. This is it. No excuses for the cop now
I think you misunderstand. The claim is that there was a scuffle AFTER the cop chases after him and catches him in the park or field or whatever it was. .

[Im so nba'd out]

I think you misunderstand. The claim is that there was a scuffle AFTER this part.
a 50 year old man was "running" away from the cop unarmed.The cop then fired 8 shots into his back and head (he didnt aim at his arm or legs)Then as the man was bleeding to death he made no effort to help him or call for help.He then plants evidence to justify what happens.He then makes up a fake story in which he claims the black man was attacking him @ the time he started shooting.He would of got away with it if video evidence didnt come out.This has nothing to do with if the cop is a racist he is just a dirty piece of shit and you still defend him.I wish the victims family members could spit in dude77,9erempire,joyner, and your face

[oh the horror]

I know some of the general clowns on the board are coming through with their usual boring ass shtick and whatever but this is pretty obvious in terms of what's happened. This cop is done for. He walks and you'll have another nightmare scenario.

[gts]

no excuses for what the cop did. none whatsoever and should be punished as harshly as can be but that being said here we have another example of an idiot doing the very last thing you want to do with a cop.. do not give them a reason to escalate the situation by escalating the situation itself...

if you have something to hide from the cops take it like a man when they do catch up to you, don't argue don't run don't don't scuffle with them you fu*ked up and now you've been caught..

The cop in this case surely crossed the line but the idiot gave the cop an excuse to do it when he bolted out of his car...

[TheMan]

Dude should be heavily punished for this. Cops lacking accountability is the biggest problem with all these shootings.
/thread

[TheMan]

Nobody is defending the officer.

Black people like to say cops are out to get them, possibly true, after knowing this, why would they still run?

Both idiots are going away. One dead and the other will be in prison for life.
:no: This is still 'Murrica, juries never find white cops guilty when it comes to shooting black dudes, no matter the circumstances.

[dude77]

this guy probably would've gotten off if he hadn't planted that taser and lied to dispatch .. he's probably gonna argue that the guy fought him and as he ran he thought he was reaching for his waist or something like that .. but planting the taser and his words to dispatch are gonna do him in

[NumberSix]

a 50 year old man was "running" away from the cop unarmed.The cop then fired 8 shots into his back and head (he didnt aim at his arm or legs)Then as the man was bleeding to death he made no effort to help him or call for help.He then plants evidence to justify what happens.He then makes up a fake story in which he claims the black man was attacking him @ the time he started shooting.He would of got away with it if video evidence didnt come out.This has nothing to do with if the cop is a racist he is just a dirty piece of shit and you still defend him.I wish the victims family members could spit in dude77,9erempire,joyner, and your face
Not a single person disputes that. Nobody is "defending" the cop.

[BRabbiT]

http://i.imgur.com/DTYSXXC.gif

[NumberSix]

Did anybody notice that near the end of the video, it looks like another cop steals a piece of evidence from the crime scene? It looks like this whole police department is shady.

[9erempiree]

**** The Police

[CarlosBoozer]

This is entirely the cops fault, but people need to stop running �� from the cops.. Like unless you're a track and field star, ya aint getting away far and you'll most likely be tasered/beaten/shot

[TheMan]

Funny that the chinese didn't have that problem, despite going through extreme prejudice and oppression as well upon immigration into the US. Neither did the jews despite the extreme antisemitism they've been faced with.
:yaohappy:

Are you an idiot? No other minority group, especially the Jews, (America =/= Nazi Germany) faced the same kind of oppression African Americans faced, Native Americans also had it bad but they weren't enslaved, they were just killed off :facepalm

First off, no other minority except for blacks were slaves, BIG DIFFERENCE, I'm Mexican American and we've also been treated pretty shitty in the past but nowhere near as bad as blacks...

[BRabbiT]

Michael Slager is being kept in isolation for his protection (http://www.cbsnews.com/news/former-south-carolina-officer-michael-slager-charged-with-murder-how-he-spends-life-in-prison/), his lawyer told CBS News.

Slager lives in a room with one small window & guards make regular stops by his cell. Slager has no interaction with other detainees, & when he moves anywhere, all the cell blocks in his path are cleared out, according to his lawyer.

Andy Savage, his lawyer, met with Slager Wednesday for an hour. Savage said it took an hour & 45 minutes to move Slager to the meeting place because they had to clear all of the cell blocks. Savage said his client can only speak to family through a videoconference -- or through thick plexiglass if his attorney is present.

The officer's mother, Karen Sharpe, is expected to visit her son Friday for the first time since the shooting, reports CBS News.

"You never want to see these things happen to your family and I grieve for them. I grieve for us because this is such a life changer," Karen Sharpe said.

Slager's mother said she still hasn't been able to watch the footage.

"He's a loving, caring person & he wants to help people," Sharpe said.

"That's why he became a police officer."

Scarlett Wilson, prosecutor for Charleston County, said she will work with law enforcement agencies to seek an indictment next month from a county grand jury on the murder charge against Slager.

Wilson said that while Slager has had an appearance before a magistrate on the charges, only a circuit judge can set bond on a murder charge in South Carolina. And she said there has not been a request from Slager's defense to have such a bond hearing.



he was just trying to help Walter Scott:rolleyes:

i know you're his momma, but c'mon