Is Goran Dragic top 10?

[dannysc305]

He's underrated to me. He's been spectacular when I've watched him play since traded to Miami. Drop 28 last night. I think he's in the top 8-12 range. Do you guys think he's top 10? I wouldn't disagree either way. There's a bevy of talented 1 guards in this league.

EDIT: Top 10 PG not OVR

[navy]

Easily top 10

He was top 5 last year

We are talking about point guards right?

[imdaman99]

Yeah he's top 10 and that's saying a lot since PG is the most stacked position in the current league.

[TylerOO]

He is a top 10 player on the Heat.

[RightToCensor]

No order.

James Harden
LeBron James
Stephen Curry
Russell Westbrook
Anthony Davis
Demarcus Cousins
Chris Paul
Kyrie Irving
Klay Thompson
Kawhi Leonard
Marc Gasol

[plowking]

Easily top 10? No navy.

I'm a Heat fan, and I don't think so. He is a good point guard in a league full of good point guards.

Curry, Paul, Westbrook, Wall, Kyrie, Conely, and Teague are players that are all undoubtedly better than him.
Then you have guys like Lowry, Rose, Lillard, etc that are all probably better if you were forced to choose a guy.
Then you have the next tier of Reggie Jackson, Bledsoe, Rondo, Parker, Lawson, etc where it is questionable.

He is in the 10-15 range, and that is fine. They can win a championship with him at point playing at that level if they fix the rest around him.

[FKAri]

top 10 ALL TIME

[Spurs5Rings2014]

Easily top 10? No navy.

I'm a Heat fan, and I don't think so. He is a good point guard in a league full of good point guards.

Curry, Paul, Westbrook, Wall, Kyrie, Conely, and Teague are players that are all undoubtedly better than him.
Then you have guys like Lowry, Rose, Lillard, etc that are all probably better if you were forced to choose a guy.
Then you have the next tier of Reggie Jackson, Bledsoe, Rondo, Parker, Lawson, etc where it is questionable.

He is in the 10-15 range, and that is fine. They can win a championship with him at point playing at that level if they fix the rest around him.

:biggums:

[305Baller]

When he plays well yes. When he is not aggressive, no.

[Lensanity]

When Goran Dragic is aggressive, healthy, and shooting really well he is the best point guard in the league outside of the God tier of PGs (CP3, Curry, Westbrook)

When Bledsoe went down last year there was a stretch of games where he was legitimately that good. He still has it in him, he just had a horrible start to this year and it's been all about him trying to get back in that groove again.

[masonanddixon]

Yes.

He has great efficiency, and is a very good defensive player.

[Fudge]

Curry
Westbrook
Paul
Irving
Wall
Lillard
Lowry
Teague
Conley
Dragic?

Last spot is up for grabs really, with Rose always injured and Parker on the decline.

[masonanddixon]

Curry
Westbrook
Paul
Irving
Wall
Lillard
Lowry
Teague
Conley
Dragic?

Last spot is up for grabs really, with Rose always injured and Parker on the decline.
He's better than all of the ones in bold.

[Fudge]

He's better than all of the ones in bold.
Nope. Sorry.

[dannysc305]

A lot of yall are losing me with Lowry, Conley and Teague. I think Goran is better. I can understand Wall Paul Lillard Curry Westbrook Parker Rose and Irving. That's the untouchable 8. First tier. So 9-12 is Dragic Lowry Conley Teague in whatever order as tier 2. Jackson and Bledsoe are close and approaching but still behind Goran. They're in that 3rd tier with Kemba Lawson I.Thomas Rondo and maybe George hill on a good night.

[dannysc305]

He's better than all of the ones in bold.

Nah bro Lillard Wall Irving are bonafide stars. The other 3, yes.

[masonanddixon]

Nope. Sorry.

So if he outplays them head to head, has a far better FG% and is a better defender he isnt better somehow?

Maybe if he were darker skinned and American with some rap videos he'd be better, eh?

[masonanddixon]

Nah bro Lillard Wall Irving are bonafide stars. The other 3, yes.

Lillard and Wall have been in a serious slump for months. Irving is a name more than a player. Put Goran on teams with that talent and he would easily replicate their production.

[Fudge]

Dragic is a terrible defender.

[dannysc305]

Dragic is a terrible defender.

Lies.

Based on what? I'd say average at worst.

[dunksby]

Your standards are pretty low what part of his game shouts Top ten PG? He definitely was last season, but he has been under performing this season, he had a fire lit up under him last year.

[dannysc305]

Your standards are pretty low what part of his game shouts Top ten PG? He definitely was last season, but he has been under performing this season, he had a fire lit up under him last year.

He's been solid as hell with Miami and I see a complete game. He's ambidextrous with the dribble and finishing at the rim, Highest FG% at the rim for his position and doesn't even dunk. High overall FG% good jumpshot, he's quick, unselfish, passing skills, IQ, and can play off ball when Wade handles. I like his game. Idk if you been watching but just lemme know if you want some links to some game highlights with Miami. He's already had some amazing games down here.

[plowking]

Conley is so underrated. Does anyone actually watch the dude? Never gets talked about.

He is far better than Dragic. Dude is one of the best game managers in the NBA. Teague another who falls into that category, but even he isn't as good as Conley.

[dunksby]

He's been solid as hell with Miami and I see a complete game. He's ambidextrous with the dribble and finishing at the rim, Highest FG% at the rim for his position and doesn't even dunk. High overall FG% good jumpshot, he's quick, unselfish, passing skills, IQ, and can play off ball when Wade handles. I like his game. Idk if you been watching but just lemme know if you want some links to some game highlights with Miami. He's already had some amazing games down here.
I know he has had some great games with Miami, maybe last season was his peak, and this is what he will be for the rest of his prime. I wouldn't call him a top ten PG this season.

[HiphopRelated]

Easily top 10? No navy.

I'm a Heat fan, and I don't think so. He is a good point guard in a league full of good point guards.

Curry, Paul, Westbrook, Wall, Kyrie, Conely, and Teague are players that are all undoubtedly better than him.
Then you have guys like Lowry, Rose, Lillard, etc that are all probably better if you were forced to choose a guy.
Then you have the next tier of Reggie Jackson, Bledsoe, Rondo, Parker, Lawson, etc where it is questionable.

He is in the 10-15 range, and that is fine. They can win a championship with him at point playing at that level if they fix the rest around him.
By your list he's 2nd tier, because he's clearly better than your whole 3rd tier to me

[SpanishACB]

If Dragic played for a proper coach he'd easily be a top 5-7 pg in this league

[ArbitraryWater]

Easily top 10? No navy.

I'm a Heat fan, and I don't think so. He is a good point guard in a league full of good point guards.

Curry, Paul, Westbrook, Wall, Kyrie, Conely, and Teague are players that are all undoubtedly better than him.
Then you have guys like Lowry, Rose, Lillard, etc that are all probably better if you were forced to choose a guy.
Then you have the next tier of Reggie Jackson, Bledsoe, Rondo, Parker, Lawson, etc where it is questionable.

He is in the 10-15 range, and that is fine. They can win a championship with him at point playing at that level if they fix the rest around him.

How are guys like Conley and Teague undoubtedly better? :biggums:

Not just undoubtedly better than Dragic, but also than guys like Lowry and Lillard :wtf:

And I like Conley.. but Dragic could fill his role as well.

[24-Inch_Chrome]

Westbrook
Curry
Paul
Lillard
Irving
Wall
Lowry
Teague
Conley

are all better than Dragic. He might sneak in at the 10 spot but I might be forgetting someone.

[plowking]

How are guys like Conley and Teague undoubtedly better? :biggums:

Not just undoubtedly better than Dragic, but also than guys like Lowry and Lillard :wtf:

And I like Conley.. but Dragic could fill his role as well.

I watch plenty of Dragic, he is on my team.

How are Conley and Teague better? Are you serious? Apart from better raw stats and actually leading their team to the playoffs?
Serious question, how much more talented are the Hawks than the Heat? Since Dragic came here, we went from being in the playoffs to being out of them. I'm not saying he is to blame, but a better point guard would have kept us in there.

He is top 15... He isn't top 10.

[plowking]

By your list he's 2nd tier, because he's clearly better than your whole 3rd tier to me

I would take him over everyone but Reggie in the 3rd tier. So I guess I have him around 11th or 12th.

[masonanddixon]

lol at system player Conley being the better player. He'd be horrible at the focal point of a team.

[oarabbus]

lol at system player Conley being the better player. He'd be horrible at the focal point of a team.


I dunno, it's not like one is clear cut above the other. Dragic's offense vs Conley's defense.

[masonanddixon]

I dunno, it's not like one is clear cut above the other. Dragic's offense vs Conley's defense.

Are you assuming Dragic isn't as good defensively because hes white or some shit? Because he's an absolute bull on defense and can guard 3 positions.

[oarabbus]

Are you assuming Dragic isn't as good defensively because hes white or some shit? Because he's an absolute bull on defense and can guard 3 positions.


Yes, but Conley is probably THE best defensive PG after CP3.

Are you assuming Conley isn't good offensively because... I don't really know why you'd assume that.

[masonanddixon]

Yes, but Conley is probably THE best defensive PG after CP3.

Are you assuming Conley isn't good offensively because... I don't really know why you'd assume that.

Conley is a system guy...he can't get you something from nothing and he doesn't get easy buckets. I like him and he's a nice fit in Memphis but put him on that shitty Heat squad and he'd be exposed.

[bdreason]

PG's I would definitely take over Dragic;


CP3
Curry
Westbrook
Irving
Lillard
Wall
Lowry
Conley
Teague





So top 10... at best.

[masonanddixon]

PG's I would definitely take over Dragic;


CP3
Curry
Westbrook
Irving
Lillard
Wall
Lowry
Conley
Teague





So top 10... at best.


Well you're out of your head if you think that.

[TAZORAC]

He's better than all of the ones in bold.

Not hardly, he's equal the player that Conley is. He can't carry a team, but can be a GREAT contributor to any already good team, just like Conley.

[masonanddixon]

Not hardly, he's equal the player that Conley is. He can't carry a team, but can be a GREAT contributor to any already good team, just like Conley.

He carried his mediocre supporting cast to 49 wins last season...what more do you need?

And he's had playoffs success. He's proven.