If Hernandez walks... does he play in the NFL again?

[bdreason]

Listening to the facts of this case, and I have a feeling he's going to walk. No gun, no witnesses, and nothing but suspicious behavior and circumstantial evidence.



Anyways, if he's found not-guilty, is there a chance he makes it back to the NFL? Maybe end up in the CFL or something like that?

[Joyner82reload]

If he's found not guilty, the guy is probably going to end up dead within 6 months.

[navy]

Didnt he just snitch on his presumably "killer" friend?

[Akrazotile]

I read that his lawyer basically admitted in the closing statements that Hernandez was there when one of the men killed the dude, but it wasnt him that did it. Which is obviously bogus but hard to disprove legally.

Still, at the very least, if his lawyer literally conceded that Hernandez was "part" of the murdering party, and he was seen chilling back at his crib with them minutes later, does it really matter who pulled the trigger? The evidence is overwhelming that it was ONE of them, and the lawyer just admitted to it. None of them came forth with any info until they were caught, so it wasnt something that took the other two off guard when the guy was killed. I thought you could be convicted by association if youre an accomplice to committing murder.

He wont be back in the NFL tho ever, regardless. Season ticket cancellations would pour in if this guy signed anywhere. This is different than the Ray Lewis thing which involved an altercation and much less clear evidence. This is obvious guilt of cold blooded murder. Dude will prob rot in the pen but if not hes way too toxic for thr NFL. Sadly if he gets off, innocent lives are in serious danger all over again. He needs to be locked up permanently. The dude is an ape.

[bdreason]

I'm not a lawyer, but I believe the jurors can only provide a verdict on the charge of 1st degree murder. I think it's different from state to state, so I'm not entirely sure.

[Lebron23]

No.. The guy is a criminal, and he's mentally unstable.

[BigNBAfan]

if hes not guilty i dont think the nfl can legally not hire him on that basis alone

[navy]

if hes not guilty i dont think the nfl can legally not hire him on that basis alone
All they would have to do is claim that it was for football reasons.

[oarabbus]

No.. The guy is a criminal, and he's mentally unstable.


The question was will he play in the NFL, not will he get hired at the local daycare.

[warriorfan]

fucc it i got 2 good fantasy seasons out of him

[JohnFreeman]

I think he will get the rest of his contract if it was guaranteed

[Derka]

Yes, it matters who pulled the trigger if you're going for murder-1 in Massachusetts. The DA has to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that Hernandez himself premeditated the murder and then pulled the trigger on the weapon that killed the kid, and sadly they didn't do that. No justice for Lloyd's family but they're gonna get paid pretty hard in the civil trial because Hernandez is at the very least culpable in his death.

The trial is happening right on South Main St. in my home town, so its a shit-show outside the courthouse every day. There's still a few dippy hoodrat hoochy-mamas hanging around outside yelling "FREE AARON!" simply because they think he's hot. Fall River sucks and I'm glad I left.

[NumberSix]

Yes, it matters who pulled the trigger if you're going for murder-1 in Massachusetts. The DA has to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that Hernandez himself premeditated the murder and then pulled the trigger on the weapon that killed the kid, and sadly they didn't do that. No justice for Lloyd's family but they're gonna get paid pretty hard in the civil trial because Hernandez is at the very least culpable in his death.

The trial is happening right on South Main St. in my home town, so its a shit-show outside the courthouse every day. There's still a few dippy hoodrat hoochy-mamas hanging around outside yelling "FREE AARON!" simply because they think he's hot. Fall River sucks and I'm glad I left.
I can't imagine that's how the law woks in Massachusetts.
. You don't have to be the actual trigger man to be convicted of first degree murder. All they need to do is prove he was part of a premeditated plan to murder the victim.

[Patrick Chewing]

Dude's a gangster. He deserves to be locked up.

[christian1923]

When do they announce the verdict ?

[Draz]

If he's found not guilty, the guy is probably going to end up dead within 6 months.
Just like George Zimmerman right

[NoGunzJustSkillz]

He still has that double homicide case in Boston. I thought I read there are eyewitnesses and a video of Hernandez behind the wheel in that case.

[Joyner82reload]

Just like George Zimmerman right

Uh..George Zimmerman was innocent and lived a standard life up until Trayvon Martin incident. Hernandez has been ****ed up for a long period of time and this type of behavior seems to be the norm for him.

[DonD13]

Uh..George Zimmerman was innocent and lived a standard life up until Trayvon Martin incident. Hernandez has been ****ed up for a long period of time and this type of behavior seems to be the norm for him.

:oldlol:


"Apart from the 2012 Martin shooting, Zimmerman has had other encounters with the law, including two incidents in 2005, five incidents in 2013 and other incidents in following years"

[Draz]

Uh..George Zimmerman was innocent and lived a standard life up until Trayvon Martin incident. Hernandez has been ****ed up for a long period of time and this type of behavior seems to be the norm for him.
Innocent by law or guilty in any way, how many people wanted him dead?

[Joyner82reload]

:oldlol:


"Apart from the 2012 Martin shooting, Zimmerman has had other encounters with the law, including two incidents in 2005, five incidents in 2013 and other incidents in following years"

In 2005, 7 years prior to the shooting, he was arrested for shoving an undercover police officer while he was drunk. Post trial is an absolute joke, he's a marked man that has been framed several times and found innocent in each case.

[Kblaze8855]

If he's found not guilty they are just going to transport him to where he's on trial for that other double murder. He won't be free for one second.

[Real Men Wear Green]

If he walks free he'll get another shot. I'm not sure he'll still be any good as it'll be 2 seasons out of football but if there's no conviction there's no basis for barring him from the NFL. After that he just needs one coach that's desperate for a TE to give him a chance. Now if he lost his conditioning he may be unable to get back to NFL standard but someone is at least going to work him out as he was one of the better tight ends when he last played.
If he's found not guilty they are just going to transport him to where he's on trial for that other double murder. He won't be free for one second.Addendum: If he's also able to evade these charges.

[DonD13]

In 2005, 7 years prior to the shooting, he was arrested for shoving an undercover police officer while he was drunk. Post trial is an absolute joke, he's a marked man that has been framed several times and found innocent in each case.

yes, after he took anger management classes for that, then had those domestic violence cases. that's not a "standard life".

and after that he's still going hard. he clearly cannot control himself.

to your point; Hernandez record is cleaner (technically). Not that i give a **** about him

[gts]

If he's found not guilty they are just going to transport him to where he's on trial for that other double murder. He won't be free for one second.
This. He's got another trial waiting for him in Florida

[~primetime~]

There is no way he will ever play in the NFL again...ever

[Joyner82reload]

yes, after he took anger management classes for that, then had those domestic violence cases. that's not a "standard life".

and after that he's still going hard. he clearly cannot control himself.

to your point; Hernandez record is cleaner (technically). Not that i give a **** about him

You should look into those "domestic violence cases". His wife was found to have exaggerated everything including his gun threat.

[DeuceWallaces]

No chance he plays again even if he walks on this and the next murder trial.

[Budadiiii]

I personally hope the guy rots in prison for the rest of his miserable life.

Sociopathic murderer. If he gets off I hope someone kills him.

No team would be stupid enough so sign this guy. 0% chance he ever plays in the NFL again

[Akrazotile]

If he walks free he'll get another shot. I'm not sure he'll still be any good as it'll be 2 seasons out of football but if there's no conviction there's no basis for barring him from the NFL. After that he just needs one coach that's desperate for a TE to give him a chance. Now if he lost his conditioning he may be unable to get back to NFL standard but someone is at least going to work him out as he was one of the better tight ends when he last played.Addendum: If he's also able to evade these charges.


:facepalm

That belongs in the "dumbest things Ive read on ISH" thread.

Not being formally barred doesnt mean a team will actually sign him. Multiple people under oath testifying he gets dusted on the regular. Hes on trial for NUMEROUS murders. A joint with his DNA and the victims was found in the field near the victims body. He walked into his house on camera with a gun minutes after the murder then gave his homie a bunch of cash, the list goes on...

Are you seriously ****ing retarded?

Nobody would go near him.

[DeuceWallaces]

Yes, he seriously is retarded.

Just imagine his teammates reaction. Coaching staff, administrators, no one wants to be around a known triple homicide suspect with mountains of circumstantial evidence.

[aj1987]

Well, Ray Lewis got away with murder and still finished his HOF (future) career in the NFL, right?

[Real Men Wear Green]

Ugh. Replying to two posters I had promised myself to ignore. I do get tired of talking to jackasses so you may consider this to be a rarity.

Ray Lewis is thought of by many people as a murderer. He still got to play. Roethlisberger has multiple rape accusations. Still playing. Greg Hardy after having a conviction overturned in suspect as hell fashion for terrorizing his pregnant gf will be playing for Dallas next year. And I really could go on. Bottom line, free men with NFL talent tend to get second chances. If he doesn't get convicted in this or the next trial Hernandez will just need one team to think he can help them and he'll be back in the NFL. This isn't a vote by the GMs, this is just one guy that's willing to take him. That has always been the case. And will always be the case.

[Akrazotile]

Ugh. Replying to two posters I had promised myself to ignore. I do get tired of talking to jackasses so you may consider this to be a rarity.

Ray Lewis is thought of by many people as a murderer. He still got to play. Roethlisberger has multiple rape accusations. Still playing. Greg Hardy after having a conviction overturned in suspect as hell fashion for terrorizing his pregnant gf will be playing for Dallas next year. And I really could go on. Bottom line, free men with NFL talent tend to get second chances. If he doesn't get convicted in this or the next trial Hernandez will just need one team to think he can help them and he'll be back in the NFL. This isn't a vote by the GMs, this is just one guy that's willing to take him. That has always been the case. And will always be the case.


Hes a paranoid dust smoker on trial for two separate murders and facing accusations that he shot someone in the eye in a third incident. No team is bringing that guy in. This is completely different than Ray Lewis being present when a spontaneous fight broke out and someone died from a stabbing.

Hernandez is a deeply disturbed and volatile psycho. He is completely untouchable. The league would quietly collude against him without QUESTION. Teams themselves could even conceivably be the target of lawsuits if they signed him and he did this again. Fans would protest by the boatload.

There is zero chance he plays in the NFL again, ever.

[aj1987]

Ugh. Replying to two posters I had promised myself to ignore. I do get tired of talking to jackasses so you may consider this to be a rarity.

Ray Lewis is thought of by many people as a murderer. He still got to play. Roethlisberger has multiple rape accusations. Still playing. Greg Hardy after having a conviction overturned in suspect as hell fashion for terrorizing his pregnant gf will be playing for Dallas next year. And I really could go on. Bottom line, free men with NFL talent tend to get second chances. If he doesn't get convicted in this or the next trial Hernandez will just need one team to think he can help them and he'll be back in the NFL. This isn't a vote by the GMs, this is just one guy that's willing to take him. That has always been the case. And will always be the case.
The heck did I to you? :wtf:

Anyways, I agree with you. The guys a pretty decent player. If acquitted, some team will definitely sign him.

[MJ(Mean John)]

I read that his lawyer basically admitted in the closing statements that Hernandez was there when one of the men killed the dude, but it wasnt him that did it. Which is obviously bogus but hard to disprove legally.

Still, at the very least, if his lawyer literally conceded that Hernandez was "part" of the murdering party, and he was seen chilling back at his crib with them minutes later, does it really matter who pulled the trigger? The evidence is overwhelming that it was ONE of them, and the lawyer just admitted to it. None of them came forth with any info until they were caught, so it wasnt something that took the other two off guard when the guy was killed. I thought you could be convicted by association if youre an accomplice to committing murder.

He wont be back in the NFL tho ever, regardless. Season ticket cancellations would pour in if this guy signed anywhere. This is different than the Ray Lewis thing which involved an altercation and much less clear evidence. This is obvious guilt of cold blooded murder. Dude will prob rot in the pen but if not hes way too toxic for thr NFL. Sadly if he gets off, innocent lives are in serious danger all over again. He needs to be locked up permanently. The dude is an ape.


A lot of that depends on each state and the specific statute that the jurisdiction has.

So, only IF** they are able to have enough evidence to deem it a "conspiracy" will the co-conspirators (A. Hernandez) be found guilty of all crimes that are in furtherance of the conspiracy (conspiracy to commit 1st degree murder)

[Real Men Wear Green]

Fans protested Vick. He still was allowed to come back. Drug abuse? Players have publicly said over half the league is on weed and there's plenty of doping. Lawsuits? How is someone going to sue a team for signing Hernandez? That doesn't even make sense.

His career is probably over because he isn't going to skate in both trials. But let's not act like known bad guys aren't on NFL rosters.

[MJ(Mean John)]

I'm not a lawyer, but I believe the jurors can only provide a verdict on the charge of 1st degree murder. I think it's different from state to state, so I'm not entirely sure.


It depends on the cause of action that is being brought against him.

In a criminal suit, the burden of proof is on the prosecution and the level of proof is BEYOND a reasonable doubt. IF it isn't, he isn't guilty. They should have threw the kitchen sink at him with regard to causes of action.

[Real Men Wear Green]

The heck did I to you? :wtf:
I wasn't talking about you, sorry about the confusion.

[Nanners]

Maybe if this was the 90s he would play again... but in the modern NFL, in the age of the internet and social media, there is no way in hell that hernandez is picked up.

After seeing what happened with ray rice and adrian peterson last year, you gotta be crazy if you think Goodell is going to let hernandez come back. It doesnt matter how many GMs want to sign him, there is just no way that Goodell and the owners would allow it.

[24-Inch_Chrome]

I think he's done. A team would have to be really desperate to bring him in considering the media flak that would come with it.

That said, if I was a GM and he was better than what I had, I'd sign him in a heartbeat.

[Real Men Wear Green]

Maybe if this was the 90s he would play again... but in the modern NFL, in the age of the internet and social media, there is no way in hell that hernandez is picked up.

After seeing what happened with ray rice and adrian peterson last year, you gotta be crazy if you think Goodell is going to let hernandez come back. It doesnt matter how many GMs want to sign him, there is just no way that Goodell and the owners would allow it.
It would all depend on how well Hernandez has kept up his conditioning.

Rice and Peterson would actually be a great example. Rice, I'm betting his career is over because he's average at best. So he's not worth the backlash. Peterson, on the other hand, the Vikings won't release and are publicly saying they don't want to trade while Jerry Jones comes as close as humanly possible to tampering and you have to believe would ignite a bidding war if he was on the trade market. Peterson's people are so secure in their position that they feel not only will he be coming back but they can try and force the Vikings to send him to Dallas.

Getting back to Hernandez, if he gets through the legal troubles the first thing he's going to do is find some way to show teams he still has his athletic ability, be it with an open pro day, maybe the arena league, CFL, or if a team bring him in for a private (probably secret) workout. And if he shows that he can still run a 4.64? Someone will be tempted.

[Nanners]

It would all depend on how well Hernandez has kept up his conditioning.

Rice and Peterson would actually be a great example. Rice, I'm betting his career is over because he's average at best. So he's not worth the backlash. Peterson, on the other hand, the Vikings won't release and are publicly saying they don't want to trade while Jerry Jones comes as close as humanly possible to tampering and you have to believe would ignite a bidding war if he was on the trade market. Peterson's people are so secure in their position that they feel not only will he be coming back but they can try and force the Vikings to send him to Dallas.

Getting back to Hernandez, if he gets through the legal troubles the first thing he's going to do is find some way to show teams he still has his athletic ability, be it with an open pro day, maybe the arena league, CFL, or if a team bring him in for a private (probably secret) workout. And if he shows that he can still run a 4.64? Someone will be tempted.

no, it wouldnt depend on conditioning at all. goodell and the owners would never let hernandez come back, period. the negative PR would just be too much.

[Akrazotile]

It would all depend on how well Hernandez has kept up his conditioning.

Rice and Peterson would actually be a great example. Rice, I'm betting his career is over because he's average at best. So he's not worth the backlash. Peterson, on the other hand, the Vikings won't release and are publicly saying they don't want to trade while Jerry Jones comes as close as humanly possible to tampering and you have to believe would ignite a bidding war if he was on the trade market. Peterson's people are so secure in their position that they feel not only will he be coming back but they can try and force the Vikings to send him to Dallas.

Getting back to Hernandez, if he gets through the legal troubles the first thing he's going to do is find some way to show teams he still has his athletic ability, be it with an open pro day, maybe the arena league, CFL, or if a team bring him in for a private (probably secret) workout. And if he shows that he can still run a 4.64? Someone will be tempted.


Dude. He is an unpredictable, paranoid, angel dust smoking MULTIPLE MURDERER psychopath.


He could literally be a DANGER TO THE LIVES OF THE PEOPLE ON HIS OWN TEAM. You know this Odin Lloyd was supposedly his friend right? And the guy who got shot in the eye?

Youre a fukking dummy. Youre bringing up single cases far less significant than three separate murders/attempted murders. Other guys may have made mistakes or just arent good citizens, Hernandez is an ACTUAL PSYCHOPATH.


You have no fukking clue what youre talking about. Youre trying way too hard to be mr sensitive tolerant justice-man. Just shut up. Youre an embarrassment.

[CelticBaller]

The dude has the talent to be an all pro TE

I seriously doubt a team won't pick him up

[DeuceWallaces]

Lol, this dip-shit thinks it will come down to his conditioning.

Can't even believe I just read that.

"Aaron, I know you've been accused of numerous homicides, but let's look past that. Have you had time to hit the gym lately?"

[Real Men Wear Green]

Dude. He is an unpredictable, paranoid, angel dust smoking MULTIPLE MURDERER psychopath.


He could literally be a DANGER TO THE LIVES OF THE PEOPLE ON HIS OWN TEAM. You know this Odin Lloyd was supposedly his friend right? And the guy who got shot in the eye?

Youre a fukking dummy. Youre bringing up single cases far less significant than three separate murders/attempted murders. Other guys may have made mistakes or just arent good citizens, Hernandez is an ACTUAL PSYCHOPATH.


You have no fukking clue what youre talking about. Youre trying way too hard to be mr sensitive tolerant justice-man. Just shut up. Youre an embarrassment.
I didn't say anything about "justice." I pointed out real examples of players that have done bad things and have been guilty in the court of public opinion but still got to play. You think what Greg Hardy got convicted of isn't crazy? You're taking your stupid vendetta against me and allowing it to form your opinion on everything. You're wrong.

[ThePhantomCreep]

Even if he beats the rap all three murder chargers, it will an OJ-esque feel to it because the dude is clearly guilty.

Speaking of which, how much work did OJ (an NFL legend, pitchman, commentator, and actor) get in the years following his acquittal? Dude was a complete pariah. That's the treatment Hernandez will get.

[Akrazotile]

I didn't say anything about "justice." I pointed out real examples of players that have done bad things and have been guilty in the court of public opinion but still got to play. You think what Greg Hardy got convicted of isn't crazy? You're taking your stupid vendetta against me and allowing it to form your opinion on everything. You're wrong.


"If theres no conviction theres no basis for barring him from the NFL."

You spoke as tho the NFL has some moral obligation to take him back if hes acquitted. Youre obviously doing your worn out ACLU extremist bit, acting like an individual should never face any social consequences for their behavior, ever.

The dude is a danger to the LIVES of people around him and youre saying there is no basis to bar him bc a lot of players smoke weed :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm

[AkronAngel]

All teams should be very hesitant to grab him. His talent isn't worth the PR hit.

[oarabbus]

"If theres no conviction theres no basis for barring him from the NFL."

You spoke as tho the NFL has some moral obligation to take him back if hes acquitted. Youre obviously doing your worn out ACLU extremist bit, acting like an individual should never face any social consequences for their behavior, ever.

The dude is a danger to the LIVES of people around him and youre saying there is no basis to bar him bc a lot of players smoke weed :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm


That's not what he's saying. He's saying the NFL probably won't give a **** if he is found not guilty and if he is capable of being a productive player in the league. It's probably true.

[Real Men Wear Green]

Even if he beats the rap all three murder chargers, it will an OJ-esque feel to it because the dude is clearly guilty.

Speaking of which, how much work did OJ (an NFL legend, pitchman, commentator, and actor) get in the years following his acquittal? Dude was a complete pariah. That's the treatment Hernandez will get.
That's different. I would never say that Hernandez gets any kind of commercials or anything like that off the field. That's a circumstance where a company could lose customers by getting OJ Simpson's endorsement. If playing in the NFL was just about being popular I wouldn't argue. But if Hernandez looks like a great player to some team, if they think he can help them win some games then he could be brought in. One thing I hadn't considered is that if there is a huge backlash from advertisers that Hernandez could lose his second chance pretty quickly. But with 2-3 years having passed since Hernandez dominated the airwaves and the overpowering popularity of football as a whole if Hernandez looks like a great player I still believe someone gives him a shot.

[Real Men Wear Green]

"If theres no conviction theres no basis for barring him from the NFL."

You spoke as tho the NFL has some moral obligation to take him back if hes acquitted.No I didn't you're just an idiot. Saying they don't have a legal basis for barring him--and with no conviction, they don't--is not the same thing as saying he has to be given a roster spot.
Youre obviously doing your worn out ACLU extremist bit, acting like an individual should never face any social consequences for their behavior, ever.[Do you ever get tired of repeating the same worn out crap? Do you have any idea how boring you've gotten? When did we first argue, like 8 years ago? And you're saying the exact same things, wanting me to still talk to you? Get a life.


The dude is a danger to the LIVES of people around him and youre saying there is no basis to bar him bc a lot of players smoke weed :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm :facepalmI'm sure that a lot of, if not most teams won't touch him. I'm also sure that there are people that thought Michael Vick's career was over.

[Jailblazers7]

Zero chance he plays again. It will have been multiple years before he is even eligible to play. Years that he's been sitting in prison instead of playing or training. Add on the fact that he will probably get a minimum suspension of an additional year after he is eligible to play.

By the time he can get picked up he will be 27 or 28 with years away from the game. Not even remotely close to an attractive risk/reward for any team.

[Akrazotile]

That's not what he's saying. He's saying the NFL probably won't give a **** if he is found not guilty and if he is capable of being a productive player in the league. It's probably true.


It's completely untrue. Thats the point 90% of the people in this thread are making.

This is not the same as fighting dogs or being falsely accused of assault by a depressed woman.


No player would be brought back after this. What does it tell you that the Patriots let him go quickly once the facts started coming out here? This is not Ray Lewis and it's not anyone else. This is a serially homicidal nutjob in an era where the NFL is taking huge PR hits for much lesser offences.

This thread is filled with many obvious and accurate reasons why he will not be back. The chance is zero. Its not happening.

[AkronAngel]

This is not the same as fighting dogs or being falsely accused of assault by a depressed woman.



:coleman:

[Akrazotile]

:coleman:


First Roethlisberger incident.

[AkronAngel]

First Roethlisberger incident.

Oh, ok. I was thinking of the elevator one.

[magictricked]

There is ZERO chance the NFL would ever entertain the idea of allowing Hernandez to play no matter :lol

Anyone thinking the league would let him near one of it's franchises is delusional

[~primetime~]

I think even NFL fans have a line that players can't cross...that line is premeditated murder

This isn't like Peterson using a switch
This isn't like Ray Rice bashing his wife's head into a wall
This isn't even like Josh Brent killing a man via DUI

This is premeditated murder...pointing a handgun at someone, and pulling the trigger



Even as a hardcore Cowboys fan, I could not cheer for that if it was on my team...it's too much

[Real Men Wear Green]

I think even NFL fans have a line that players can't cross...that line is premeditated murder

This isn't like Peterson using a switch
This isn't like Ray Rice bashing his wife's head into a wall
This isn't even like Josh Brent killing a man via DUI

This is premeditated murder...pointing a handgun at someone, and pulling the trigger



Even as a hardcore Cowboys fan, I could not cheer for that if it was on my team...it's too much
And are you going to abandon the Cowboys over Greg Hardy?

[Real Men Wear Green]

How many dudes hardy kill?
No one that I know of. But he did get convicted of throwing his girl onto a bed of firearms and threatening to kill her, choking and beating. I'm pretty sure he's not a particularly nice guy.

[DeuceWallaces]

Such a ridiculous argument and such terrible analogies with Lewis, Vick, and Hardy that have little to no relation with circumstances surrounding Hernandez.

You must have a bag of ***** for brains to make these arguments.

[Real Men Wear Green]

Such a ridiculous argument and such terrible analogies with Lewis, Vick, and Hardy that have little to no relation with circumstances surrounding Hernandez. You just say that but don't make an argument. That's how I know you really have nothing to say.


You must have a bag of ***** for brains to make these arguments.
And you can suck on all of them.
So Romo isn't particularly concerned with being executed by him?And how many of his teammates has Hernandez killed? Were Ray Lewis's teammates worried about him killing them?

[Jailblazers7]

Hernandez just makes no sense on a team after all the dust settles even from a pure football standpoint. Who wants a TE who has been out of football for 3 years and hasn't even had the opportunity to train. Not like he was some generational talent anyway.

[Real Men Wear Green]

Hernandez just makes no sense on a team after all the dust settles even from a pure football standpoint. Who wants a TE who has been out of football for 3 years and hasn't even had the opportunity to train. Not like he was some generational talent anyway.
I don't necessarily disagree. It's likely he loses his conditioning in which case he wouldn't be worth it.

[bdreason]

I don't think he'll play in the NFL again. I really made the thread to discuss the case since the verdict should arrive soon.

[ThePhantomCreep]

Aaron Hernandez pretty much qualifies as a serial killer. A serial killer is a person who murders three or more people for psychological gratification, spanning more than a month, with down time (a "cooling off period") between each of the murders.

2012 - commits double murder
2013 - shoot man in face (almost murder :oldlol:)
2013 - murders Odin Lloyd

The NFL isn't known for its squeaky clean image, but even they wouldn't touch this guy.

[Akrazotile]

Aaron Hernandez pretty much qualifies as a serial killer. A serial killer is a person who murders three or more people for psychological gratification, spanning more than a month, with down time (a "cooling off period") between each of the murders.

2012 - commits double murder
2013 - shoot man in face (almost murder :oldlol:)
2013 - murders Odin Lloyd

The NFL isn't known for its squeaky clean image, but even they wouldn't touch this guy.


Oh come on, I think a few teams would gladly invite the hitchhiker with the ax into their car. But ONLY if he gets his conditioning back of course.

[Derka]

Jury has already flown right past the murder charges in deliberations and are asking for clarification on the weapons charges now.

He's still got a trial coming up in Boston where the evidence is considerably more solid. He's got a long way to go before all his legal shit is cleared up, and there's no way a team touches him after all of this.

[Draz]

I'm sure the Jets would sign him

[DeuceWallaces]

I don't necessarily disagree. It's likely he loses his conditioning in which case he wouldn't be worth it.

Dat conditioning doe.

Dumb-ass. :facepalm

[BasedTom]

I'm sure the Jets would sign him
They are a truly classless and horrible organization, fit for their new jersey guido fanbase, so yeah I can see this happening.

[BRabbiT]

no way he plays in the NFL again.

[mlh1981]

I say there is a zero percent chance. This guy is a complete menace to society, and who the hell would want to play with him? It would possibly destroy a team to have him around.

[dude77]

ah became a cancer to the nfl the minute he was charged .. he's been done .. I'd be shocked if he ever plays in the nfl again

[BurningHammer]

This just in, Aaron Hernandez found guilty of first-degree murder.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/aaron-hernandez-found-guilty-of-first-degree-murder-173924220.html

[Budadiiii]

This just in, Aaron Hernandez found guilty of first-degree murder.
Stop trolling this forum man

Link or gtfo

[Patrick Chewing]

Remember kids, that gangsta life don't pay.


How do you become an NFL player and still can't get rid of that lifestyle?? :facepalm

[NumberSix]

Found quilty

[BurningHammer]

Stop trolling this forum man

Link or gtfo
There you go. It is a breaking news so there was nothing on the link yet.

[Budadiiii]

There you go. It is a breaking news so there was nothing on the link yet.
I know I saw it on twitter, I was just messin with you, Kaifeng

[Akrazotile]

:djparty

[Velocirap31]

Guilty of murder in the first degree. His life is over.

[dazzer87]

ESPN 30 for 30 in a year.....

[Akrazotile]

For the last week dude was probably sitting in his cell thinkin bout how cool and gangster hes gonna look if he gets acquitted.

But no such luck for you, Aaron Catz Hernandez!

[Derka]

Thought for sure he was going to skate on Murder-1 with no weapon and no clear motive. Glad I was wrong. Enjoy the rest of your life in Cedar Junction, punk.

[Akrazotile]

I don't know, if his conditioning is there I'm sure a couple teams will give em a shot


The man deserves a second chance.

If the NFL does not see fit to give it to him, I'm sure the ACLU will have a little somethin to say about how this "NFL" is running its own private business.

[Patrick Chewing]

He can still look forward to playing Tight End other than just in his cell.


http://anjalimmpatel.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/longest_yard_the_1974_685x385.jpg

[longhornfan1234]

He got 1st degree with no murder weapon, no cooperating witness, and no motive...:biggums:

[Patrick Chewing]

He got 1st degree with no murder weapon, no cooperating witness, and no motive...:biggums:


Hernandez is an idiot. Even if he didn't pull the trigger, he should have cut a deal with the D.A. to snitch out whoever did. Bottom line, he is a thug and was there at the time and had a part to play. Just as guilty as pulling the trigger himself.

[DeuceWallaces]

I don't know, if his conditioning is there I'm sure a couple teams will give em a shot

Dat conditioning doe.

[dude77]

I like how they're sentencing his ass immediately ... took 2 yrs to sentence that arias lady .. ridiculous


life without parole .. talk about throwing it all away

[BasedTom]

You see this Patriots fans? You better get used to it- for you'll be seeing Kraft, Bill, and Tom all meet the same fate once the NFL gets exposed for its corruption.

[~primetime~]

He should just be put to death IMO. Perhaps that will be a possibility after the his next murder trial.

He has killed multiple people in cold blood, he has absolutely no regard for human life, why should we care to keep him alive? What is the point of keeping him alive in prison for the rest of his life? Just kill him, save a ton of tax payer money.

[BasedTom]

It all started when he put on the Patriots jersey, and the UF one before it. It's fitting that such a disgraceful man aligned himself with two disgraceful organizations...are we sure he wasn't considering the Jets too?

[L.A.Showtime]

This just in, Aaron Hernandez found guilty of first-degree murder.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/aaron-hernandez-found-guilty-of-first-degree-murder-173924220.html

:applause:

[oarabbus]

He got 1st degree with no murder weapon, no cooperating witness, and no motive...:biggums:


he killed 2 other people anyway

[dude77]

they say the case against him for the 2 other murders is strong .. witness saw him do it .. this guy was playing in the nfl after he killed those 2 .. crazy

[Akrazotile]

He is awaiting trial on murder charges in the drive-by shooting, in which he is accused of gunning down two men over a spilled drink at a nightclub.

If Hernandez can prove he killed the drink spiller in self defense, AND successfully appeal his current conviction, then its just a matter of getting his conditioning back and this dude will be on the field again in no time.

[ThePhantomCreep]

He should just be put to death IMO. Perhaps that will be a possibility after the his next murder trial.

He has killed multiple people in cold blood, he has absolutely no regard for human life, why should we care to keep him alive? What is the point of keeping him alive in prison for the rest of his life? Just kill him, save a ton of tax payer money.

I dunno man, I kinda like the fact that Hernandez, at 25, has to wake up every day now knowing he's going to die in prison. The mansion, the girls, the parties, all gone forever.

For a smug POS like him, it's a wonderful punishment. :cheers:

[ThePhantomCreep]

He got 1st degree with no murder weapon, no cooperating witness, and no motive...:biggums:

Contrary to myth, circumstantial evidence can be enough to secure a conviction, especially when there's mountains of it, as in this case.

[warriorfan]

you guys are insane no team is going to touch this cat

[DeuceWallaces]

He's just too talented

He'll be back

As long as he keeps up his conditioning in jail.

[warriorfan]

He can do the Hershal Walker 2000 push ups & sit ups a day work out :oldlol:

[gts]

I like how they're sentencing his ass immediately ... took 2 yrs to sentence that arias lady .. ridiculous


life without parole .. talk about throwing it all away

That's because the charges/conviction carries a predetermined sentence... there's no debate, there's no wiggle room for the judge to impose a greater or lessor sentence...

in Arias the death penalty was on the table, there is no death penalty in Massachusetts

[Jameerthefear]

It all started when he put on the Patriots jersey, and the UF one before it. It's fitting that such a disgraceful man aligned himself with two disgraceful organizations...are we sure he wasn't considering the Jets too?
F*ck off son. UF > that disgraceful shit hole you call Miami

[~primetime~]

I dunno man, I kinda like the fact that Hernandez, at 25, has to wake up every day now knowing he's going to die in prison. The mansion, the girls, the parties, all gone forever.

For a smug POS like him, it's a wonderful punishment. :cheers:
I hear you...but that costs a lot of tax payer money

I feel like we don't execute enough criminals in the US. For a situation like this, where the criminal has killed multiple people in cold blood, why spend all the tax money to keep him alive in prison? Just kill the guy.

Some people sit on Death Row for 10-20 years even....WTF is that all about?...just kill them already.

Our jails are over crowded AND they are expensive...and some of the people in their are doing life for shit that is flat out unforgivable...save space and money by executing them.

Last year the US executed 43 people...China executed 1,000+ lol...Hernandez does this shit in China and the judge would just walk up to him and shoot him in the head in the court room, call it a day.

[Akrazotile]

I hear you...but that costs a lot of tax payer money

I feel like we don't execute enough criminals in the US. For a situation like this, where the criminal has killed multiple people in cold blood, why spend all the tax money to keep him alive in prison? Just kill the guy.

Some people sit on Death Row for 10-20 years even....WTF is that all about?...just kill them already.

Our jails are over crowded AND they are expensive...and some of the people in their are doing life for shit that is flat out unforgivable...save space and money by executing them.

Last year the US executed 43 people...China executed 1,000+ lol...Hernandez does this shit in China and the judge would just walk up to him and shoot him in the head in the court room, call it a day.


Part of it is the legal lobby. They get paid with the public's money to do a whole mess of appeals. And they justify it with the public by playing the heartstrings of Captain Sensitive liberals.

[ace23]

I hear you...but that costs a lot of tax payer money

I feel like we don't execute enough criminals in the US. For a situation like this, where the criminal has killed multiple people in cold blood, why spend all the tax money to keep him alive in prison? Just kill the guy.

Some people sit on Death Row for 10-20 years even....WTF is that all about?...just kill them already.

Our jails are over crowded AND they are expensive...and some of the people in their are doing life for shit that is flat out unforgivable...save space and money by executing them.

Last year the US executed 43 people...China executed 1,000+ lol...Hernandez does this shit in China and the judge would just walk up to him and shoot him in the head in the court room, call it a day.

Probably trolling but lol @ people who actually think like you.

[KingBeasley08]

I hear you...but that costs a lot of tax payer money

I feel like we don't execute enough criminals in the US. For a situation like this, where the criminal has killed multiple people in cold blood, why spend all the tax money to keep him alive in prison? Just kill the guy.

Some people sit on Death Row for 10-20 years even....WTF is that all about?...just kill them already.

Our jails are over crowded AND they are expensive...and some of the people in their are doing life for shit that is flat out unforgivable...save space and money by executing them.

Last year the US executed 43 people...China executed 1,000+ lol...Hernandez does this shit in China and the judge would just walk up to him and shoot him in the head in the court room, call it a day.
Eh, executing someone actually costs more than just locking up in prison for life. we aren't china and we shouldn't try to be china

[KNOW1EDGE]

Probably trolling but lol @ people who actually think like you.

Probably trolling but lol @ people who actually think like YOU

[oarabbus]

Eh, executing someone actually costs more than just locking up in prison for life. we aren't china and we shouldn't try to be china

Only because of the millions of dollars the state spends on appeals.

If you look at the actual cost of taxpayer money to keep an individual alive for 40+ years, vs the cost of the lethal injection, it's a tiny tiny tiny fraction of the price to enforce the death penalty.

But appeal after appeal, slowly it becomes more expensive to put someone on death row.

[gts]

Only because of the millions of dollars the state spends on appeals.

If you look at the actual cost of taxpayer money to keep an individual alive for 40+ years, vs the cost of the lethal injection, it's a tiny tiny tiny fraction of the price to enforce the death penalty.

But appeal after appeal, slowly it becomes more expensive to put someone on death row.

My father was a judge.. we talked about the numbers ($$) quoted when it comes to death penalty.. he said it's all BS when the legal fees numbers start getting tossed around... his argument is

A. the State's lawyers are paid a salary, they don't get paid more to fight for a death penalty, they get X amount per year to do their job no matter the case they are arguing

B. The criminals fees are 99% of the time pro bono, there are very few wealthy men on death row, even if they were wealthy once it's all been sucked up fighting the charges in the first place, legal expenses incurred will be written off on taxes...

C. the court costs, everything is already in place, the judges and his staff, the court personnel etc etc etc is there everyday 8-5 rain or shine for every other legal case going on.. they don't hire special staffs add more people or anything

Basically the whole it costs more to kill a person than to give him life argument is nonsense made up by anti death penalty crowd trying to sway folks who might be a bit more likely to make a decision based on a fiscal perspective instead of a moral view...

Does it cost some extra money to enforce a death conviction? yes of course it would but nowhere near as much as it does to house and feed a man in prison for the rest of his life

[Akrazotile]

My father was a judge.. we talked about the numbers ($$) quoted when it comes to death penalty.. he said it's all BS when the legal fees numbers start getting tossed around... his argument is

A. the State's lawyers are paid a salary, they don't get paid more to fight for a death penalty, they get X amount per year to do their job no matter the case they are arguing

B. The criminals fees are 99% of the time pro bono, there are very few wealthy men on death row, even if they were wealthy once it's all been sucked up fighting the charges in the first place, legal expenses incurred will be written off on taxes...

C. the court costs, everything is already in place, the judges and his staff, the court personnel etc etc etc is there everyday 8-5 rain or shine for every other legal case going on.. they don't hire special staffs add more people or anything

Basically the whole it costs more to kill a person than to give him life argument is nonsense made up by anti death penalty crowd trying to sway folks who might be a bit more likely to make a decision based on a fiscal perspective instead of a moral view...

Does it cost some extra money to enforce a death conviction? yes of course it would but nowhere near as much as it does to house and feed a man in prison for the rest of his life


Interesting. Good info.


Fry that sucka!

[ace23]

Probably trolling but lol @ people who actually think like YOU
Yea idk about you but I'm not down with the government executing people.

Do you, fam.

[Akrazotile]

Yea idk about you but I'm not down with the government executing people.

Do you, fam.


Decided by a jury of ya peers homie

[ace23]

Decided by a jury of ya peers homie
Word?

[Akrazotile]

Word?


Say word

[Budadiiii]

Say word
Still online bro?!

[christian1923]

He's gonna do fine in Prison. Probably start a great gang and get on gangland

[Akrazotile]

Still online bro?!

Nah bro. I'm not.

[oarabbus]

My father was a judge.. we talked about the numbers ($$) quoted when it comes to death penalty.. he said it's all BS when the legal fees numbers start getting tossed around... his argument is

A. the State's lawyers are paid a salary, they don't get paid more to fight for a death penalty, they get X amount per year to do their job no matter the case they are arguing

B. The criminals fees are 99% of the time pro bono, there are very few wealthy men on death row, even if they were wealthy once it's all been sucked up fighting the charges in the first place, legal expenses incurred will be written off on taxes...

C. the court costs, everything is already in place, the judges and his staff, the court personnel etc etc etc is there everyday 8-5 rain or shine for every other legal case going on.. they don't hire special staffs add more people or anything

Basically the whole it costs more to kill a person than to give him life argument is nonsense made up by anti death penalty crowd trying to sway folks who might be a bit more likely to make a decision based on a fiscal perspective instead of a moral view...

Does it cost some extra money to enforce a death conviction? yes of course it would but nowhere near as much as it does to house and feed a man in prison for the rest of his life

Good post. I stated the last part of my post wrong - I meant "the price of the lethal injection is a tiny tiny fraction of supporting a persons life for a lifetime".

I'm not against the death penalty EXCEPT for that innocents may be executed.

[ArbitraryWater]

Hernandez' cellmate

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CCqpoB9W0AE644M.jpg

[DonD13]

Good post. I stated the last part of my post wrong - I meant "the price of the lethal injection is a tiny tiny fraction of supporting a persons life for a lifetime".

I'm not against the death penalty EXCEPT for that innocents may be executed.

they have and they will be executed, it's inevitable.
just look at the amount they had to release from death row once DNA analytic came up.
and one is already too much.
death penalty is too final.
a justics system that gets the power from the people can not take away the people's life.
only savage countries got death penalty anyway.

[ThePhantomCreep]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CCpNs-SVIAA14f_.jpg

Hernandez = PWNED

[ballup]

they have and they will be executed, it's inevitable.
just look at the amount they had to release from death row once DNA analytic came up.
and one is already too much.
death penalty is too final.
a justics system that gets the power from the people can not take away the people's life.
only savage countries got death penalty anyway.
You call them savage. I call them decisive