Is it possible to create a unstoppable robot player with current technology?

[Derivative]

With our current technology, is it possible to create a humanoid type of robot to basketball and be unstoppable on the court? Assuming that the robot has to comply with all basketball rules and normal human size.

I think the technology needed would include:
1) Fully functional, flexible, mechanical body that can run, jump, dribble, and shoot
2) Software which allows the robot to understand its surrounding environment, and react base on it
3) Software that allows the robot to play basketball while complying to rules.

I am guessing, if companies like Google + Apple + Northrop Grumman collaborated all together, it might be possible to pull it off.


Imagine if they made a robot with MJ's playbook uploaded to it software:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

[tgan3]

No not possible right now.

[tgan3]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KfNRXTS55nY

Above are the best robot soccer players, looks like my 3 year old nephew can beat them.

In a game of basketball where the actions are more complicated to program (Like dribbling the basketball and jumping), it won't be anything soon.

[kennethgriffin]

duh.. obviously

all youd have to do is create a robot thats 9 feet tall... or with a computerized aim/shot that never misses from half court

forget any athletic dunking shit. no need for it

[tgan3]

duh.. obviously

all youd have to do is create a robot thats 9 feet tall... or with a computerized aim/shot that never misses from half court

forget any athletic dunking shit. no need for it

The point is, are you going to create a "humanoid" robot or just any random type of robot?

And how the hell is your 9 feet tall robot able to bounce a basketball?

[buddha]

yes.

http://media.giphy.com/media/EizPK3InQbrNK/giphy.gif

we have the technology.

[inclinerator]

nope we dont even have an efficient robot maid yet

[J Shuttlesworth]

He'd be discredited for being a "system player" anyway

[oarabbus]

He'd be discredited for being a "system player" anyway


:oldlol: :applause:






Seriously though, it can't be done with any reasonable amount of money. The most advanced current robots are Asimo or the Boston Dynamics BigDog. Walking up and down an incline are the most advanced activities they can do. The amount of work that would need to be done on machine vision and navigation algorithms, and implementing the robotic controls with all the sensors, motors, and actuators to move dribble and shoot is not trivial. It would be a huge undertaking that would require collaboration between some of the brightest minds alive today.

Now if MIT collaborated with Google and received a $10 million dollar grant specifically to create a robotic basketball player, yes it could probably be done within a few years. We can create particle accelerators, spaceships, thousand mile long underwater cables... but it would be a huge collaborative effort and require millions of dollars.

[Random_Guy]

nope, currently simply to catch a baseball needs the most advanced robot, let alone basketball, unless like kennethsaid, you build a huge robot where he just keeps shooting threes from half court

[Walker]

:oldlol: :applause:






Seriously though, it can't be done with any reasonable amount of money. The most advanced current robots are Asimo or the Boston Dynamics BigDog. Walking up and down an incline are the most advanced activities they can do. The amount of work that would need to be done on machine vision and navigation algorithms, and implementing the robotic controls with all the sensors, motors, and actuators to move dribble and shoot is not trivial.

Now if MIT collaborated with Google and received a $10 million dollar grant specifically to create a robotic basketball player, yes it could probably be done within a few years. We can create particle accelerators, spaceships, thousand mile long underwater cables... but it would be a huge collaborative effort and require millions of dollars.
10mil? Lol who are you, Dr. Evil?
Times that by 100 and it still couldn't be done.. For a start it would require hydraulic technology far, far superior to anything even close to possible now or in the near future, and that's just one component..

[Chizdog]

The point is, are you going to create a "humanoid" robot or just any random type of robot?

And how the hell is your 9 feet tall robot able to bounce a basketball?

Who needs to dribble when you can program a 20 feet robot that can receive ball and shoot from a spot and never miss it. You could just leave it on one spot and pass the ball to it. 3 points every possession. No way the opponent could beat that.

[knicksman]

:roll:
2/5 stans are so shook that theyre now thinking crap

[oarabbus]

10mil? Lol who are you, Dr. Evil?
Times that by 100 and it still couldn't be done.. For a start it would require hydraulic technology far, far superior to anything even close to possible now or in the near future, and that's just one component..


Maybe $10 million was a lowball. But with $1 billion and collaboration across all the leading robotics people, it can be done within maybe 5 years.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkBnFPBV3f0 - ATLAS, the current most advanced robot

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXWOiEzQ89A - robot that can play beer pong


Now imagine if Boston Dynamics, leading researchers at DARPA, Google, MIT, Stanford, and the Beer Pong Robot dudes were given $ 1 billion to create a robotic basketball player. I think we'd have one by 2020.

[tgan3]

Who needs to dribble when you can program a 20 feet robot that can receive ball and shoot from a spot and never miss it. You could just leave it on one spot and pass the ball to it. 3 points every possession. No way the opponent could beat that.

Why not say create a 100 feet robotic arm that can just dunk the ball in from half court?

[FKAri]

It doesn't need useless human abilities like running and jumping. Just park it at center court. It will be rated as being able to make 3pt shots at 99.999% accuracy. It must receive passes though and opposing players will obviously attempt to block all passes. Therefore, it needs to receive passes that cannot be easily blocked. Perhaps install a receiving cavity approx 10 ft off the ground? The machine will be the new hoop.

However once that first machine is allowed to play, machine integration will have begun and the modern era will begin. It will mark the beginning of the end for the weak slow footed humans. In a 100 years basketball will be indistinguishable from a DBZ combat sequence but Lazerrus will still be talking about how Wilt couldve kept up.

[tgan3]

if basketball rules apply, all these non humanoid robots should not be allowed to compete.

If not we can just program a tank to kill all the basketball players and victory is ensued. Robots win 100% of the time.

[Marchesk]

A time traveled terminator Wilt from the 2060s would destroy this weak ass era of non-cybernetic humanoids.

[navy]

A time traveled terminator Wilt from the 2060s would destroy this weak ass era of non-cybernetic humanoids.
Are you randomly posting about Wilt so that you can be recognized as a Wilt stan after being ignored in that one post or have you always been this annoying?

[Spurs m8]

Maybe the Military, behind closed doors...they're about 20 years ahead on tech shit

[Living Being]

With nanotechnology this should be possible. No need to think about large scale mechanisms when you have machines that are microscopic. It would basically be like the liquid robot from Terminator 2. No limitations.

[305Baller]

yes.

http://media.giphy.com/media/EizPK3InQbrNK/giphy.gif

we have the technology.

:roll:

[f0und]

the best we can do right now is making a robot that awkwardly walks like he *hit his pants. running and jumping is quite a ways off. then there's lateral movement, dribbling, etc. but the hardest part would be the AI. when to stutter step and change speeds. when to crossover. reading the defense. when to pass. when to shoot. just making basic basketball decisions.

[SpanishACB]

you guys are thinking too much into recreating a human body, that's obviously too hard due to how complex our motor is.

However, a 4 wheel small little car like thing with a robotic arm that can bounce and shoot with extreme accuracy is very possible of course.
if you were allowed to put sensors on the ball and/or rim then it would be even more feasible, since you would do without the super advanced video recognizing technology you would need for it to know where the ball and basket are at all times.


why not? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gaILpaBa7M8

people are building these things with minimal investement. If we're talking about infinite funds and manpower, they would make a robot that can beat any NBA player in less than a few years.

[NoGunzJustSkillz]

i bet they can create a robot that plants himself behind the three point line and have him make a three every single time the ball touches his hand. he'd basically have immobile legs.

[ILLsmak]

i bet they can create a robot that plants himself behind the three point line and have him make a three every single time the ball touches his hand. he'd basically have immobile legs.

haha and wouldn't play any D at all. They'd be throwing outlets to it if they could keep the other team from scoring.

Edit: if it could be done, it would have been done... trust me.

-Smak

[SpanishACB]

Edit: if it could be done, it would have been done... trust me.



this is one of those quotes that aesthetically make sense but are basically food for ignorants

[Derivative]

It doesn't need useless human abilities like running and jumping. Just park it at center court. It will be rated as being able to make 3pt shots at 99.999% accuracy. It must receive passes though and opposing players will obviously attempt to block all passes. Therefore, it needs to receive passes that cannot be easily blocked. Perhaps install a receiving cavity approx 10 ft off the ground? The machine will be the new hoop.

However once that first machine is allowed to play, machine integration will have begun and the modern era will begin. It will mark the beginning of the end for the weak slow footed humans. In a 100 years basketball will be indistinguishable from a DBZ combat sequence but Lazerrus will still be talking about how Wilt couldve kept up.

:lol :lol :lol :lol

[ILLsmak]

this is one of those quotes that aesthetically make sense but are basically food for ignorants

what is 'food for ignorants'?

The amount of money it would make would be worth. We are sending shit into deep space. There's no reason why, if we could make a bball robot that was better than any bball player on the planet, that we wouldn't do that.

But while it's not impossible... it's so far beyond what we are doing right now. We can't even make an unstoppable bball simulator, let alone having it move.

First, we need robots that can move their body fluidly. Then we need to program AI that can exploit human intelligence... not on a chess board, but in motion. Which, once you bring in the extra dimensions, makes 'programming it' near impossible.

-Smak

[I<3NBA]

It doesn't need useless human abilities like running and jumping. Just park it at center court. It will be rated as being able to make 3pt shots at 99.999% accuracy. It must receive passes though and opposing players will obviously attempt to block all passes. Therefore, it needs to receive passes that cannot be easily blocked. Perhaps install a receiving cavity approx 10 ft off the ground? The machine will be the new hoop.

However once that first machine is allowed to play, machine integration will have begun and the modern era will begin. It will mark the beginning of the end for the weak slow footed humans. In a 100 years basketball will be indistinguishable from a DBZ combat sequence but Lazerrus will still be talking about how Wilt couldve kept up.
:roll: :roll: :roll:

[SpanishACB]

what is 'food for ignorants'?

The amount of money it would make would be worth. We are sending shit into deep space. There's no reason why, if we could make a bball robot that was better than any bball player on the planet, that we wouldn't do that.

But while it's not impossible... it's so far beyond what we are doing right now. We can't even make an unstoppable bball simulator, let alone having it move.

First, we need robots that can move their body fluidly. Then we need to program AI that can exploit human intelligence... not on a chess board, but in motion. Which, once you bring in the extra dimensions, makes 'programming it' near impossible.

-Smak

Sorry, no offense, but you're naive.


There's no reason why, if we could make a bball robot that was better than any bball player on the planet, that we wouldn't do that.

There's millions of reasons. Main one being funds.

No one close to you a high engineer? Consider a chat with him. Approach him telling him "is it true that we humans would build anything just because we can?" and have him laugh at you and perhaps spoon feed you into the process of coherent thinking.

Or go over to ted.com and watch some technology chats it doesn't matter... fact remains, a small car like vehicle with an arm similar to the one posted in my previous link that can navigate itself in relation to the ball in the court, bounce said ball and shoot said ball with extreme accuracy is something we can do with current technology, never mind if someone had unlimited funds, time, and man power to focus on such an irrelevant project for humanity, it would be more amazing than anything your naive mind can conceive.

even defense is easy, if the car is fast enough to stay infront of the ball at all times it can even calculate in real time when the ball is just about to touch the ground (opposite player is bouncing it) and attempt a steal in said moment. If it can stay in front of you at all times it can also have its arm extend to a reasonable 7 footer reach and attempt blocks, faking wouldn't do a thing to him since it's a robot and therefore inhumanly fast.

[swagga]

yes.

http://media.giphy.com/media/EizPK3InQbrNK/giphy.gif

we have the technology.

I say they are already teaching them james harden skills :applause:

[buddha]

that robot could probably be a role player in the 60's though.

[Taller than CP3]

how awesome would it be if they made robot clones out of your favorite player.....same height, same weight, and played exactly like they did. I'd buy an MJ clone and play him one on one every night.

[ILLsmak]

Sorry, no offense, but you're naive.



There's millions of reasons. Main one being funds.

No one close to you a high engineer? Consider a chat with him. Approach him telling him "is it true that we humans would build anything just because we can?" and have him laugh at you and perhaps spoon feed you into the process of coherent thinking.

Or go over to ted.com and watch some technology chats it doesn't matter... fact remains, a small car like vehicle with an arm similar to the one posted in my previous link that can navigate itself in relation to the ball in the court, bounce said ball and shoot said ball with extreme accuracy is something we can do with current technology, never mind if someone had unlimited funds, time, and man power to focus on such an irrelevant project for humanity, it would be more amazing than anything your naive mind can conceive.

even defense is easy, if the car is fast enough to stay infront of the ball at all times it can even calculate in real time when the ball is just about to touch the ground (opposite player is bouncing it) and attempt a steal in said moment. If it can stay in front of you at all times it can also have its arm extend to a reasonable 7 footer reach and attempt blocks, faking wouldn't do a thing to him since it's a robot and therefore inhumanly fast.

Well, I was assuming they meant something similar to a human. As they joked, just make something 11 feet tall.

I think you and I are not on the same page. Sure, they could make a robot with a huge 10 foot fan that blocks shots and a cannon that can shoot the ball into the hoop. Altho... I think such things would be harder to do than you think. However, to me that's not an unstoppable robot 'player.' And wouldn't be impressive beyond the luls.

That video you showed is something than a 7 year old could do. To make a bball humanoid that can dribble and play defense would require more than 'high engineering.' Also, "can do" does not equal infinite effort + funds forever. It's easy to believe that it would happen eventually (even if it wouldn't.) If you took the largest team in history and gave them all of the resources, we could argue over whether they could get it done. Still, that's not a realistic scenario. Think of one that is. If it cost 1 billion or 10 billion to make this humanoid robot that could play in the NBA and be the best player, it would absolutely be made.

The truth is, we are nowhere near that. Showing some arm with a ping pong racquet attached to it that slides along the edge... and tracks the ball... is interesting and 'cool', but it's not even close to what would be required of a fully functional basketball player. It's more like a pitching robot or a batting robot. It's confined to a very small space.

-Smak

[red1]

With our current technology, is it possible to create a humanoid type of robot to basketball and be unstoppable on the court? Assuming that the robot has to comply with all basketball rules and normal human size.

I think the technology needed would include:
1) Fully functional, flexible, mechanical body that can run, jump, dribble, and shoot
2) Software which allows the robot to understand its surrounding environment, and react base on it
3) Software that allows the robot to play basketball while complying to rules.

I am guessing, if companies like Google + Apple + Northrop Grumman collaborated all together, it might be possible to pull it off.


Imagine if they made a robot with MJ's playbook uploaded to it software:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:
not even close

[nathanjizzle]

the most advanced robots have a stable balance gyroscope, you can kick it and it wont fall. this is mostly due to high weight less technical algorithm in the robot. but, the gyro is still not advanced enough to fully play a sport like basketball though. however, with current technology, we could create a robot that hovers around midrange to the 3 point line on offense and shoot a great percentage when it catches and shoots the ball. it may also run back and play a small zone defense aswell.

[Im Still Ballin]

Bunch of robotic experts ITT

Show me your credentials

[SpanishACB]

I think you and I are not on the same page.


That video you showed is something than a 7 year old could do.

:facepalm

[Derivative]

some classic replies in here:lol :lol

[Jailblazers7]

yes.

http://media.giphy.com/media/EizPK3InQbrNK/giphy.gif

we have the technology.

:roll:

[RightTwoCensor]

yes.

http://media.giphy.com/media/EizPK3InQbrNK/giphy.gif

we have the technology.
kek'd

[ILLsmak]

:facepalm

you don't think a 7 year old could hit a ping pong ball back? I could have when I was 7.

Edit: Still baffled @ how you think that proves anything about creating a robot humanoid.

It made me realize that bball is probably the most complex sport because it's the only one that you have to play so many different roles. It's probably the hardest sport to make a robot for, that I can think of. Maybe some obscure thing.

They could make a robot football 'player' that would just crush thru the middle. Or block.

They could make a robot goalie.

They could make a robot batter or pitcher as I said.

But in bball, you have to move too much. I think a robot big man would be the easiest, but it'd still have to be wary of shit like 3 seconds, setting correct screens, and rebounding (which would be mad hard without fouling everyone who was in front of it.)

-Smak

[FKAri]

If a player/robot is flying is that a traveling violation?

[SpanishACB]

you don't think a 7 year old could hit a ping pong ball back? I could have when I was 7.

Edit: Still baffled @ how you think that proves anything about creating a robot humanoid.

It made me realize that bball is probably the most complex sport because it's the only one that you have to play so many different roles. It's probably the hardest sport to make a robot for, that I can think of. Maybe some obscure thing.

They could make a robot football 'player' that would just crush thru the middle. Or block.

They could make a robot goalie.

They could make a robot batter or pitcher as I said.

But in bball, you have to move too much. I think a robot big man would be the easiest, but it'd still have to be wary of shit like 3 seconds, setting correct screens, and rebounding (which would be mad hard without fouling everyone who was in front of it.)

-Smak

i said nothing about humanoids though, did you read my posts at all?