The Steph Curry MVP discussion Thread

[Fudge]

Will it surpass Rose's? Nash's?

[KyrieTheFuture]

AHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAH no.

[game3524]

:oldlol:

Curry has one of the strongest cases in recent memory(Only Shaq in 2000 and Lebron in 2009 have had a stronger case in their respective years).

Curry winning MVP isn't anything like Malone winning it in 1997 or Nash winning it in 2006.

[RepMe]

Certainly not. Not even the least deserving of the past 10 years.

[FreezingTsmoove]

Yup deff. His numbers suck for an MVP. The only way the MVP will be deserving is if he wins the finals and that aint happening at all

[dubeta]

Might surpass Durants

[Cold soul]

Curry as great as he is isn't same tier or close to as say Shaq, Kobe, Dirk, Garnnett, Duncan, Lebron, etc. In that case yeah he will be one of weakest MVP winners in recent memory. Heck, I'm not so sure he as good as Steve Nash was during his prime.

[game3524]

Yup deff. His numbers suck for an MVP. The only way the MVP will be deserving is if he wins the finals and that aint happening at all

Dude averages 24/4/8 while shooting over 40% from three. In what world do those numbers suck? Only Lebron and KD's numbers in their MVP years have been better then what Curry has put up this year.

[Dizzle-2k7]

doesnt play defense? check
stacked team? check
chucker? check
takes bad shots? check

harden 100% deserves MVP.. if curry wins, it will be 10x worse than Nash and Rose

[Dr Hawk]

15' Curry > 01' Iverson and 11' Rose

[LoneyROY7]

Disrespectul.

[theaussieguy]

he definitely deserves it, people don't quite understand the impact a player like Curry has on team defenses. As soon as he crosses that half way line he is already in the defenses heads. It goes beyond stats. Its another reason why Korver is worth far more than his 12 ppg, the simple act of him being on the floor puts defenses into a flurry and allows shots for other guys.

Trust me I know basketball, ive played nba 2k10 like all night once.

[Stringer Bell]

No he would not be. Not even close.

[Cold soul]

15' Curry > 01' Iverson and 11' Rose

Lol sounds like someone that never saw Iverson play during his prime. :roll:

https://33.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mcdhliVKFt1rir8eco1_400.gif

[scm5]

Dude averages 24/4/8 while shooting over 40% from three. In what world do those numbers suck? Only Lebron and KD's numbers in their MVP years have been better then what Curry has put up this year.

And he does this in only 32.8mpg.

His defense has been up there with the best PG defenders in the league. If you haven't, you should check it out. He's been playing some amazing defense, especially for a guy who has been knocked for his defense.

[oarabbus]

Might surpass Durants


:applause:

[Dr Hawk]

Lol sounds like someone that never saw Iverson play during his prime. :roll:

https://33.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mcdhliVKFt1rir8eco1_400.gif

http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/pcm_finder.cgi?request=1&sum=0&y1=2001&p1=iversal01&y2=2015&p2=curryst01&p3=&p4=&p5=&p6=

Watch Iverson as much as you want, the difference between the two is huge

[Fudge]

I'd say so.

King James for MVP!

[Joyner82reload]

Noone has the numbers to measure up to LeBron & Durant of the past few years. He's certainly been better than 2011 Rose, however.

[oarabbus]

http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/pcm_finder.cgi?request=1&sum=0&y1=2001&p1=iversal01&y2=2015&p2=curryst01&p3=&p4=&p5=&p6=

Watch Iverson as much as you want, the difference between the two is huge

Damn, Curry is significantly better using regular stats as it is, but then look at the advanced stats and he just CRUSHES AI :applause:

[G0ATbe]

I love Curry but Kyrie is far more deserving at this point. Kobe also has a case.

[midatlantic09]

People who state that Curry's numbers don't warrant him winning MVP are incredibly dumb. Why? Because he obtains those numbers in 32 min per game and not the nearly 40 min per game that most MVP candidates play.

If Curry played 38-40 min per game, he'd probably average like 27/5/9.

[Fudge]

Worst MVP in the past 15 years if this goes down. It's going to happen. And if it does, i'm going to trash on this pale little boy for years to come.

This is worse than Rose's, come to think of it. It's really not close either.

[24-Inch_Chrome]

Derrick Rose has that distinction.

Steve Nash's MVPs were discussed to death a month or so ago, you might not agree with the selection but he had a deserving case as far as value.

I think that Harden deserves it more than Curry but that Curry winning wouldn't be a travesty.

[Chadwin]

If Harden didn't do what he did, I'd say Curry.

but the Warriors have:

two DPOY candidates
two all stars
three guys in the top 11 in 3 pt %
Lee and Iggy on the bench

[navy]

What's wrong with Curry's MVP?

[Prime_Shaq]

Lol no.

[scm5]

If Harden didn't do what he did, I'd say Curry.

but the Warriors have:

two DPOY candidates
two all stars
three guys in the top 11 in 3 pt %
Lee and Iggy on the bench

When you put it that way, the Rockets have:

four elite defenders, one former DPOY
two perennial all-stars
8 players scoring double digits (5 for GSW)
Smoov and Brewer off the bench

[Chadwin]

When you put it that way, the Rockets have:

four elite defenders, one former DPOY
two perennial all-stars
8 players scoring double digits (5 for GSW)
Smoov and Brewer off the bench

he's missed 40 games:roll:
and Smoov was paid to leave :roll:

[k0kakw0rld]

doesnt play defense? check
stacked team? check
chucker? check
takes bad shots? check

harden 100% deserves MVP.. if curry wins, it will be 10x worse than Nash and Rose
What is so stacked again with the Warriors? :confusedshrug:

[AkronAngel]

http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/pcm_finder.cgi?request=1&sum=0&y1=2001&p1=iversal01&y2=2015&p2=curryst01&p3=&p4=&p5=&p6=

Watch Iverson as much as you want, the difference between the two is huge

Shaq should have won that year.

[StrongLurk]

Will it surpass Rose's? Nash's?

Fudge obviously didn't watch any basketball before the 90's. Maybe the 2000's. What a b*tch.

[guy]

Seems like people are confusing weakest with least deserving. 2011 Rose deserved his MVP. No one that season really deserved it over him. 1997 Malone didn't deserve it over Jordan, 2001 AI probably didn't deserve it over both Shaq and Duncan, and 2006 Nash probably didn't deserve it over Kobe. That doesn't necessarily mean those 3 MVPs were "weaker" then Rose's.

Steph Curry might be one of the weakest MVPs in history, but he's not undeserving. The only argument for another player to get it is Harden, and he still probably deserves it more.

[Prime_Shaq]

Shaq should have won that year.
Yep

[mehyaM24]

curry & harden are basically equal in net impact (#1 in all of the league).

curry's team has the BEST record in basketball, so the idea he would be the "least deserving MVP all-time" is a silly question all together.

[scm5]

Seems like people are confusing weakest with least deserving. 2011 Rose deserved his MVP. No one that season really deserved it over him. 1997 Malone didn't deserve it over Jordan, 2001 AI probably didn't deserve it over both Shaq and Duncan, and 2006 Nash probably didn't deserve it over Kobe. That doesn't necessarily mean those 3 MVPs were "weaker" then Rose's.

Steph Curry might be one of the weakest MVPs in history, but he's not undeserving. The only argument for another player to get it is Harden, and he still probably deserves it more.

I think you're underrating Curry, a lot.

He's not the weakest MVP by any measure. Any form of his stats, advanced or not puts him amongst the strongest MVP's. His consistency, team record, and defense solidify it.

His defense is worlds ahead of Nash, not to mention his overall efficiency.

Curry is worlds ahead of MVP Rose as a player, in just about every imaginable category. Scoring, playmaking, rebounding, defense....

AI? AI might've had more heart, but Curry has just about everything else on him as well. Keep in mind, AI is a ****ing legend and he doesn't compare to Curry.

I suggest haters/doubters look up Currys advanced statistics on his defense this year. He's been flat out amazing and getting almost no love for it. There are articles out on just how good his defense has been this season and I rarely see any mention of his defense on this board.

[SwayDizzle]

06 nash is the least deserving. Kobe showed us the greatest display of scoring of all time that year. Curry deserves it this year.

[24-Inch_Chrome]

06 nash is the least deserving. Kobe showed us the greatest display of scoring of all time that year. Curry deserves it this year.

Do you seriously believe this shit? Not only was it not the greatest scoring display of all time, but if we're gauging player value by team record (as is often done) then Kobe's case becomes even weaker. The only player who should have had a shot over Nash that year was Dirk.

[dreamwarrior]

His numbers are the same as last year

13-14:
24/4.3/8.5/1.6 on .471/.424

This year:
-.4/0/-.7/.4 and .11/.14

Only his steals are up, the rest are down and he's shooting at just a slightly better percentage.

Meanwhile Harden has improved in almost every category including a 102 DTRG making him a true in/out 2-way player this year and leads the league in win shares as well.

[Lensanity]

IIRC, the Bulls were only like +1.1 better in point differential per 100 possessions with Rose on the court than off the court during his MVP season. That automatically makes it the worst MVP ever.

[scm5]

His numbers are the same as last year

13-14:
24/4.3/8.5/1.6 on .471/.424

This year:
-.4/0/-.7/.4 and .11/.14

Only his steals are up, the rest are down and he's shooting at just a slightly better percentage.

Meanwhile Harden has improved in almost every category including a 102 DTRG making him a true in/out 2-way player this year and leads the league in win shares as well.

You realize that Curry's doing this in 4 mpg less, roughly the same Usage, and playing much better defense?

[kennethgriffin]

most deserving to least ( since 2000 )

#1 shaq ( 2000 ) legit mvp
#2 kobe ( 2008 ) legit mvp
#3 garnett ( 2004 ) legit mvp
#4 duncan ( 2002 ) deserved it but shaq was the better player
#5 lebron ( 2013 ) deserved it but had wade/bosh/allen
#6 lebron ( 2010 ) deserved it but kobe was the better player
#7 duncan ( 2003 ) deserved it but kobe was the better player
#8 lebron ( 2012 ) best player but colluded with 2 other guys/lockout year
#9 lebron ( 2009 ) kobe should have won this. better and a 1 less win out west
#10 durant ( 2014 ) not even the most valuable guy on OKC
#11 Dirk ( 2007 ) kobe should have won this. 5 times better a player
#12 Nash ( 2005 ) shaq should have won this. 5 times better a player
#13 nash ( 2006 ) kobe should have won this. 10 times better a player
#14 iverson ( 2001 ) shaq should have won this. 20 times better a player
#15 rose ( 2011 ) LOL

[sp6r=underrated]

Will it surpass Rose's? Nash's?

Steph Curry is a fine choice for MVP. All of the advanced metrics support his case for MVP. The way he has been able to integrate his game into a team that is playing at an ATG level is highly impressive.

Nash's two MVP were both debatable but strong arguments can be made in his favor. Rose didn't deserve MVP but he was still an elite player.

The worse MVP in NBA history was Wes Unseld.

[Fudge]

Who is Wes Unseld?

[sp6r=underrated]

Who is Wes Unseld?

He was a center for the Bullets in the 70s. He won the MVP as a rookie in 69. He was a great rebounder, strong defender and had some unique skills on offense (brilliant outlet passer, set monster screens). He was regarded universally in his era as a player better than his numbers.

Nonetheless it is highly difficult to make a credible argument for him winning MVP that year.

[kennethgriffin]

Who is Wes Unseld?

this

that was purely a team award..

[24-Inch_Chrome]

Do you seriously believe this shit? Not only was it not the greatest scoring display of all time, but if we're gauging player value by team record (as is often done) then Kobe's case becomes even weaker. The only player who should have had a shot over Nash that year was Dirk.

Nothing, Kobe stans? No counter? Just a 6 point neg? :oldlol:

Looks like there isn't a legitimate counter-argument if that's the only response. :confusedshrug:

[game3524]

Shaq should have won that year.

No, he shouldn't have.

The Lakers declined by 11 wins in 2001 and clearly wasn't the same team in the regular season they were in the previous year.

Duncan was the only one who had a legit case over AI.

[BlazerRed]

:oldlol:

Curry has one of the strongest cases in recent memory(Only Shaq in 2000 and Lebron in 2009 have had a stronger case in their respective years).

Curry winning MVP isn't anything like Malone winning it in 1997 or Nash winning it in 2006.
:biggums: :biggums: :biggums: :biggums: :biggums: :biggums:

[Euroleague]

I notice that all Curry has done for most of the year has made basic plays and then he just plays up the crowd a lot.

He's the biggest egomaniac I've ever seen on a basketball court. He will make a totally basic 3 point shot and then he will gloat about it for about a whole minute.

This guy is the biggest showboating clown ever to play the game of basketball.

All he is really doing is playing up to all of the ESPN highlight reels and all of the media hype.

If you actually watch the substance of what he is doing, I would say he's not even as deserving of being the MVP of his own team as much as Thompson is.

Curry is the biggest showboating POS ever. He can spend an entire possession gloating over a random basic basketball play..........

[warriorfan]

alpha male curry making yall feel some type of way :oldlol:

[Euroleague]

doesnt play defense? check
stacked team? check
chucker? check
takes bad shots? check


harden 100% deserves MVP.. if curry wins, it will be 10x worse than Nash and Rose

Wait what? That was your argument for saying Harden should be MVP?

:biggums:

[game3524]

:biggums: :biggums: :biggums: :biggums: :biggums: :biggums:

It is the truth.

Curry isn't anywhere near the level of those guys, but in terms of how they determine MVP, he pretty much checks out in every single category.

[Euroleague]

Seems like people are confusing weakest with least deserving. 2011 Rose deserved his MVP. No one that season really deserved it over him. 1997 Malone didn't deserve it over Jordan, 2001 AI probably didn't deserve it over both Shaq and Duncan, and 2006 Nash probably didn't deserve it over Kobe. That doesn't necessarily mean those 3 MVPs were "weaker" then Rose's.

Steph Curry might be one of the weakest MVPs in history, but he's not undeserving. The only argument for another player to get it is Harden, and he still probably deserves it more.

:biggums: :biggums: :biggums:

:wtf:

:facepalm

[Euroleague]

I think you're underrating Curry, a lot.

He's not the weakest MVP by any measure. Any form of his stats, advanced or not puts him amongst the strongest MVP's. His consistency, team record, and defense solidify it.

His defense is worlds ahead of Nash, not to mention his overall efficiency.

Curry is worlds ahead of MVP Rose as a player, in just about every imaginable category. Scoring, playmaking, rebounding, defense....

AI? AI might've had more heart, but Curry has just about everything else on him as well. Keep in mind, AI is a ****ing legend and he doesn't compare to Curry.

I suggest haters/doubters look up Currys advanced statistics on his defense this year. He's been flat out amazing and getting almost no love for it. There are articles out on just how good his defense has been this season and I rarely see any mention of his defense on this board.

PUT DOWN THE CRACK PIPE

[guy]

I think you're underrating Curry, a lot.

He's not the weakest MVP by any measure. Any form of his stats, advanced or not puts him amongst the strongest MVP's. His consistency, team record, and defense solidify it.

His defense is worlds ahead of Nash, not to mention his overall efficiency.

Curry is worlds ahead of MVP Rose as a player, in just about every imaginable category. Scoring, playmaking, rebounding, defense....

AI? AI might've had more heart, but Curry has just about everything else on him as well. Keep in mind, AI is a ****ing legend and he doesn't compare to Curry.

I suggest haters/doubters look up Currys advanced statistics on his defense this year. He's been flat out amazing and getting almost no love for it. There are articles out on just how good his defense has been this season and I rarely see any mention of his defense on this board.

I wasn't really comparing him with those 3 guys. I agree he's better then them. With that said, he's still arguably one of the weakest. Put it it like this. Let's put his current season i.e. stats, team record, quality of teammates, etc. in every season 1990 forward (since before that might be too hard to compare due to pace). I can see him still winning MVP in 5 of those seasons but probably not anymore.

[scm5]

I notice that all Curry has done for most of the year has made basic plays and then he just plays up the crowd a lot.

He's the biggest egomaniac I've ever seen on a basketball court. He ill make a totally basic 3 point shot and then he will gloat about for about a whole minute.

This guy is the biggest showboating clown ever to play the game of basketball.

All he is really doing is playing up to all of the ESPN highlight reels and all of the media hype.

If you actually watch the substance of what he is doing, I would say he's not even as deserving of being the MVP of his own team as much as Thompson is.

Curry is the biggest showboating POS ever. He can spend an entire possession gloating over a a random basic basketball play..........

Made me laugh, but really, his plays are so simple yet so fun to watch. It hypes up the crowd and his own teammates and can change the momentum of the game with such a "simple" play.

[warriorfan]

:roll: :roll: :roll:


holyshit curry making cats meltdown left and right :oldlol:





yeah curry is a chucker...he only has a TS of .630

:yaohappy: :yaohappy: :yaohappy:

[Euroleague]

Made me laugh, but really, his plays are so simple yet so fun to watch. It hypes up the crowd and his own teammates and can change the momentum of the game with such a "simple" play.

I'm not denying it is entertaining. I admit he's definitely one of the most fun players I've ever seen play.

My point is just that, I think he has cornered the market on how to sell himself to the media and the voters. What he is basically doing is like in game self promotion.

He's taking tons of basically normal plays and turning them into ESPN highlight reels and the clowns that vote on things like MVP don't seem to be able to to discern it.

That he is taking entertainment value and somehow pushing that into something it really is not, which is substance on the court.

I'm not saying i don't think it's entertaining, because it is. Just that's what he is doing.

All I am saying is, if it comes down to something like an MVP vote, he should not be getting extra points for all of his playing up to the crowd and the TV viewers for what essentially is hitting basic 3 pointers off a screen, or making a fairly normal pass - something he's doing countless times.

I mean just look at ESPN, it's like a bigger Curry hype machine now than a LeBron machine, because yeah, it's fun to watch, but still, it is still just pretty much basic plays when you get down to it.

It's like he's hitting 10 game winners every game.......

[warriorfan]

I'm not denying it is entertaining. I admit he's definitely one of the most fun players I've ever seen play.

My point is just that, I think he has cornered the market on how to sell himself to the media and the voters. What he is basically doing is like in game self promotion.

He's taking tons of basically normal plays and turning them into ESPN highlight reels and the clowns that vote on things like MVP don't seem to be able to to discern it.

That he is taking entertainment value and somehow pushing that into something it really is not, which is substance on the court.

I'm not saying i don't think it's entertaining, because it is. Just that's what he is doing.

All I am saying is, if it comes down to something like an MVP vote, he should not be getting extra points for all of his playing up to the crowd and the TV viewers for what essentially is hitting basic 3 pointers of a screen and roll, or making a fairly normal pass - something he's doing countless times.

I mean just look at ESPN, it's like a bigger Curry hype machine now than a LeBron machine, because yeah, it's fun to watch, but still, it is still just pretty much basic plays when you get down to it.

It's like he's hitting 10 game winners every game.......



look at his stats and on/off numbers you piece of shit

[scm5]

PUT DOWN THE CRACK PIPE

http://blogs.mercurynews.com/thompson/2015/03/24/stephen-currys-defense-making-hard-opposing-point-guards/

http://www.mercurynews.com/warriors/ci_26992474/warriors-stephen-curry-steps-up-defense

http://ftw.usatoday.com/2014/11/steph-curry-golden-state-warriors-defense

http://www.nba.com/2015/news/features/scott_howard_cooper/02/08/stephen-curry-all-star-defense/

http://espn.go.com/blog/golden-state-warriors/post/_/id/24/curry-may-be-a-great-defender-after-all

Please find one article praising Steve Nash's "great" defense. Just, anything.

So, all I did to find these articles was type "stephen curry defense" into google and these articles were the first ones that popped up. I did the same for nash, "steve nash defense" and:

http://hardwoodparoxysm.com/2014/10/24/steve-nash-defense-a-compilation-of-thoughts/

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/926035-steve-nash-the-man-the-myth-the-defensive-liability

http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post/_/id/53880/when-steve-nash-ds-up

http://blogs.mercurynews.com/kawakami/2008/05/12/my-first-annual-nba-no-defense-team-starring-nash-carmelo-and-al-jefferson/

..... if I didn't use the term "worlds better" in the correct context, i have no idea how to use that phrase.

[scm5]

look at his stats and on/off numbers you piece of shit

Don't worry, I'm fairly certain he hasn't watched a Warriors game this season. He thinks Nash's defense is on par or around Curry's level.

[Euroleague]

look at his stats and on/off numbers you piece of shit

What the hell does that have to do with anything? First off, I never said anywhere in this thread that he should not be MVP. I just said substance wise, probably Thompson was more the MVP of the Warriors.

But people go more by stats, so that is how it is.

But I would not have an issue if he won the MVP. I really would not care, because I hate players like Harden anyway.

And I would see no reason to give it to someone like Westbrook where their team sucks.

But all this stats bullshit with these metrics stats and all of that is a freaking joke. Anyone that can't simply watch the damn game and see what is happening is a complete dumb ass.

[tpols]

I'm not denying it is entertaining. I admit he's definitely one of the most fun players I've ever seen play.

My point is just that, I think he has cornered the market on how to sell himself to the media and the voters. What he is basically doing is like in game self promotion.

He's taking tons of basically normal plays and turning them into ESPN highlight reels and the clowns that vote on things like MVP don't seem to be able to to discern it.

That he is taking entertainment value and somehow pushing that into something it really is not, which is substance on the court.

I'm not saying i don't think it's entertaining, because it is. Just that's what he is doing.

All I am saying is, if it comes down to something like an MVP vote, he should not be getting extra points for all of his playing up to the crowd and the TV viewers for what essentially is hitting basic 3 pointers of a screen and roll, or making a fairly normal pass - something he's doing countless times.

I mean just look at ESPN, it's like a bigger Curry hype machine now than a LeBron machine, because yeah, it's fun to watch, but still, it is still just pretty much basic plays when you get down to it.

It's like he's hitting 10 game winners every game.......

The basic plays that curry does work.. if he splashes two simple 3 pointers in your face to cap a long run.. that will spark the crowd.


You act like he hits a layup to start the game and starts waving his arms and everyone goes nuts.. it's more like he hit a few timely shots in a row and caps runs with streak scoring that often turns the tide of the game..

That happens when any player does that though. If lou Williams hits back to back 3s to cap a 15 point comeback and tie the game crowd will go nuts. Other coach will call timeout and so on. It happens all the time but curry is better at that takeover scoring than everybody else in the league..Kyrie would be next for me.

[Euroleague]

http://blogs.mercurynews.com/thompson/2015/03/24/stephen-currys-defense-making-hard-opposing-point-guards/

http://www.mercurynews.com/warriors/ci_26992474/warriors-stephen-curry-steps-up-defense

http://ftw.usatoday.com/2014/11/steph-curry-golden-state-warriors-defense

http://www.nba.com/2015/news/features/scott_howard_cooper/02/08/stephen-curry-all-star-defense/

http://espn.go.com/blog/golden-state-warriors/post/_/id/24/curry-may-be-a-great-defender-after-all

Please find one article praising Steve Nash's "great" defense. Just, anything.

Where did I say Nash played good defense? Curry is a horrible defender. Don't bring me some ridiculous bullshit metric stat saying otherwise. He can't play defense at all.

You also said he was more efficient than Nash..............what the hell? That is really going into serious trolling.

I'm not even arguing against him being the MVP. I was kind of just saying for me personally, I think Thompson is the actual most valuable player Golden State has.

But the voters always have strange criteria for that award. They clearly have anointed Curry and hyped him instead of Thompson so that is how it goes. He's the guy that showboats and all of that.

But I can't stand players like Harden, so yeah, I would pick Curry over someone like Harden, and also over Westbrook, because I think team record is important and 1 seed over something like 8 seed - it would be just stupid to give it to someone like Westbrook.

But some of the crap being said here is complete trolling.

"Curry is a good defender" and shit like that......

:facepalm I mean come the hell on.

[Euroleague]

The basic plays that curry does work.. if he splashes two simple 3 pointers in your face to cap a long run.. that will spark the crowd.


You act like he hits a layup to start the game and starts waving his arms and everyone goes nuts.. it's more like he hit a few timely shots in a row and caps runs with streak scoring that often turns the tide of the game..

That happens when any player does that though. If lou Williams hits back to back 3s to cap a 15 point comeback and tie the game crowd will go nuts. Other coach will call timeout and so on. It happens all the time but curry is better at that takeover scoring than everybody else in the league..Kyrie would be next for me.

Curry is an absolute egomaniac and a total showboating POS.

[scm5]

What the hell does that have to do with anything? First off, I never said anywhere in this thread that he should not be MVP. I just said substance wise, probably Thompson was more the MVP of the Warriors.

But people go more by stats, so that is how it is.

But I would not have an issue if he won the MVP. I really would not care, because I hate players like Harden anyway.

And I would see no reason to give it to someone like Westbrook where their team sucks.

But all this stats bullshit with these metrics stats and all of that is a freaking joke. Anyone that can't simply watch the damn game and see what is happening is a complete dumb ass.

:applause: completely agree with you on this one.

Anyone that can't see how easy everything seems to be for the W's when Curry's on the floor, how much attention he gets defensively, how much he can energize not only the crowd, but his own teammates with a simple possession is a complete dumbass.

[scm5]

Where did I say Nash played good defense? Curry is a horrible defender. Don't bring me some ridiculous bullshit metric stat saying otherwise. He can't play defense at all.

You also said he was more efficient than Nash..............what the hell? That is really going into serious trolling.

I'm not even arguing against him being the MVP. I was kind of just saying for me personally, I think Thompson is the actual most valuable player Golden State has.

But the voters always have strange criteria for that award. They clearly have anointed Curry and hyped him instead of Thompson so that is how it goes. He's the guy that showboats and all of that.

But I can't stand players like Harden, so yeah, I would pick Curry over someone like Harden, and also over Westbrook, because I think team record is important and 1 seed over something like 8 seed - it would be just stupid to give it to someone like Westbrook.

But some of the crap being said here is complete trolling.

"Curry is a good defender" and shit like that......

:facepalm I mean come the hell on.

Okay.

So coaches, players, media praising Curry isn't enough to anoint him a good defender.

Basic, statistical evidence (box scores) clearly showing Curry gives opposing PG's problems isn't enough.

More advanced metrics aren't enough to convince you either.

Your "euro-league", worldly basketball knowledge of all things basketball must see something that we don't.

I obviously can't speak for the rest of the board or the media, or players/coaches, but if you insist, you must see right through all of his bullshit. I concede.

Stephen Curry is a horrible defender.

[Euroleague]

:applause: completely agree with you on this one.

Anyone that can't see how easy everything seems to be for the W's when Curry's on the floor, how much attention he gets defensively, how much he can energize not only the crowd, but his own teammates with a simple possession is a complete dumbass.

He was talking about defense.

[Milbuck]

Lmfao Curry is so much better than Nash at defense. Curry is average at worst this year defensively, above average when he's engaged. Nash was terrible, period.


Also Giannis is better than Spanoulis ever was.

[Euroleague]

Okay.

So coaches, players, media praising Curry isn't enough to anoint him a good defender.

Basic, statistical evidence (box scores) clearly showing Curry gives opposing PG's problems isn't enough.

More advanced metrics aren't enough to convince you either.

Your "euro-league", worldly basketball knowledge of all things basketball must see something that we don't.

The fact that he can't actually play any defense is what makes him a bad defender. It is simple logic. You should try using it some time.

Looks like we can now add Curry stans as an official plague to the forum now.

[Euroleague]

Lmfao Curry is so much better than Nash at defense. Curry is average at worst this year defensively, above average when he's engaged. Nash was terrible, period.

Curry would be the worst defender in the Euroleague at the point guard position except for Huertas...........So 2nd worst in the whole Euroleague on defense at PG position.

Thanasis Antetokounmpo > Giannis Antetokounmpo always and forever

[warriorfan]

The fact that he can't actually play any defense is what makes him a bad defender. It is simple logic. You should try using it some time.

Looks like we can now add Curry stans as an official plague to the forum now.


you think klay thompson has more of an impact than curry...


stop posting

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

The fact that he can't actually play any defense is what makes him a bad defender. It is simple logic. You should try using it some time.

Actually, objective evidence would tell you Curry is having a good season defensively.

That would be "simple logic".

[Cali Syndicate]

Euro league continues to show he talks bs out his mouth. Doubt he's even watched a handful of warriors games, because it's easy to see curry is not a horrible defender, nor even bad one. He doesn't gamble, does a great job at staying in front of defenders, and doubles down extremely well and has great hands. Curry isn't an all nba defender but his defense is no longer his weakness.

And while its a small sample size, Warriors without klay are 3-2. Without curry 0-2. I'd be the last to argue that warriors don't have the most rounded roster top to bottom, but it's curry that has been the main catalyst for this teams success. I hope both curry and klay play thier entire careers as warriors but the list for facets klay is better than curry at is very short.

And currys plays only look basic because he sets them up so well. Dude has an incredible skill set. Only a person who chooses to be blind about it would think otherwise. But curry does celebrate excessively, that's the only thing I'd agree with. I don't see it as a problem though.

[Deuce Bigalow]

Only 32.8 mpg but you can't really hold that against him, he ain't no Wilt Chamberlain.

[TheMarkMadsen]

Damn, Curry is significantly better using regular stats as it is, but then look at the advanced stats and he just CRUSHES AI :applause:

good thing 'stats' don't override what actually happened on the court

AI carried much more responsibility for his team, being accountable for almost 10 more points per game for his team than Steph while also being the go to play maker, better leader, better defensively and oh yeah

led the only team to blemish the GOAT playoff teams record in 01, something Duncan, Webber's Kings, and the Blazers couldn't do

his teammates weren't setting scoring records either..

[Euroleague]

Euro league continues to show he talks bs out his mouth. Doubt he's even watched a handful of warriors games, because it's easy to see curry is not a horrible defender, nor even bad one. He doesn't gamble, does a great job at staying in front of defenders, and doubles down extremely well and has great hands. Curry isn't an all nba defender but his defense is no longer his weakness.

And while its a small sample size, Warriors without klay are 3-2. Without curry 0-2. I'd be the last to argue that warriors don't have the most rounded roster top to bottom, but it's curry that has been the main catalyst for this teams success. I hope both curry and klay play thier entire careers as warriors but the list for facets klay is better than curry at is very short.

And currys plays only look basic because he sets them up so well. Dude has an incredible skill set. Only a person who chooses to be blind about it would think otherwise. But curry does celebrate excessively, that's the only thing I'd agree with. I don't see it as a problem though.

Don't twist my words around. I said for me, Thompson is a more valuable player than Curry. Read it again if you don't believe. I did not say Thompson was the MVP.

That is the problem with this forum, no matter how many times you say something, people keep twisting it around.

As for Curry's defense............he can't guard anyone. Stop trying to manipulate that basic fact with a bunch of bullshit.

[Mr.Kite]

Lol sounds like someone that never saw Iverson play during his prime. :roll:

https://33.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mcdhliVKFt1rir8eco1_400.gif

Its 14 years ago.

half of these posters were still fetuses or sperms

[Euroleague]

I mean damn.........Curry stans are even more sensitive ******s than LeBron or Kobe stans.

I said like 3 times here I would give Curry the MVP over Harden and all these freaking clowns are doing is freaking out because I won't agree with them claiming Curry is a good defender (really? seriously?), or them saying Curry is more efficient than MVP era Nash was.........

These Curry stans are freaking unbelievable.............

:facepalm

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

I mean damn.........Curry stans are even more sensitive ******s than LeBron or Kobe stans.

I said like 3 times here I would give Curry the MVP over Harden and all these freaking clowns are doing is freaking out because I won't agree with them claiming Curry is a good defender (really? seriously?), or them saying Curry is more efficient than MVP era Nash was.........

These Curry stans are freaking unbelievable.............

:facepalm

But Curry is a good defender, as his net impact indicates. If you're going to claim something, provide evidence to support it.

Saying "watch the games" doesn't work. We all "watch the games".

[Fudge]

Curry stans are scum.

Harden > Curry. Deal wif it. Beetch.

[Budadiiii]

Curry stans are scum.

Harden > Curry. Deal wif it. Beetch.
H-town my second home like I'm James Harden. :banana:

[Lensanity]

Don't twist my words around. I said for me, Thompson is a more valuable player than Curry. Read it again if you don't believe. I did not say Thompson was the MVP.

That is the problem with this forum, no matter how many times you say something, people keep twisting it around.

As for Curry's defense............he can't guard anyone. Stop trying to manipulate that basic fact with a bunch of bullshit.
Curry would literally average 50+ in the shitty Euroleague with the shorter 3 point line.

[Heavincent]

Curry is a good defender. The only people who say otherwise don't watch the Warriors and are spewing BS cliches.

[warriorfan]

Curry would literally average 50+ in the shitty Euroleague with the shorter 3 point line.


:roll: :roll: :roll:

[Milbuck]

Curry would be the worst defender in the Euroleague at the point guard position except for Huertas...........So 2nd worst in the whole Euroleague on defense at PG position.

Thanasis Antetokounmpo > Giannis Antetokounmpo always and foreverIt doesn't matter how good he is in the NBA. The fact that he's in the NBA means he'd be prime Rodman defensively against those unathletic amateur shitstains in Euroleague.


And why bring up Thanasis? Is it because you know there's literally zero argument for Spanoulis over Giannis?

[nathanjizzle]

point guard discrimination is real.

[PsychoBe]

no durant so asterisk season

[LAZERUSS]

Russell's 61-62 MVP and Unseld's 68-69 MVP were the two worst.

[Fudge]

no durant so asterisk season
:applause:

[Pointguard]

Curry is a good defender. The only people who say otherwise don't watch the Warriors and are spewing BS cliches.
He is. But people here dog Rose about the same thing and he flat out kills the elite at his position.

[Collie]

Was Dirk the least deserving MVP of the last 10 years? Because Stephen Curry is basically putting up the equivalent of Dirk's MVP year numbers on a team that's poised to win similar amount of games.

[Bigsmoke]

Magic shouldn't have won that MVP in 1990.

Barkley, MJ, Ewing, and David Robinson were more deserving

[Dresta]

most deserving to least ( since 2000 )

#1 shaq ( 2000 ) legit mvp
#2 kobe ( 2008 ) legit mvp
#3 garnett ( 2004 ) legit mvp
#4 duncan ( 2002 ) deserved it but shaq was the better player
#5 lebron ( 2013 ) deserved it but had wade/bosh/allen
#6 lebron ( 2010 ) deserved it but kobe was the better player
#7 duncan ( 2003 ) deserved it but kobe was the better player
#8 lebron ( 2012 ) best player but colluded with 2 other guys/lockout year
#9 lebron ( 2009 ) kobe should have won this. better and a 1 less win out west
#10 durant ( 2014 ) not even the most valuable guy on OKC
#11 Dirk ( 2007 ) kobe should have won this. 5 times better a player
#12 Nash ( 2005 ) shaq should have won this. 5 times better a player
#13 nash ( 2006 ) kobe should have won this. 10 times better a player
#14 iverson ( 2001 ) shaq should have won this. 20 times better a player
#15 rose ( 2011 ) LOL
:facepalm

This post. It's like a massacring of common sense.

[tontoz]

Curry is 2nd leaguewide in WAR and RPM, 3rd in WS/48.

His TS of 63% while scoring 24 ppg is ridiculous, especially for a pg.

Lame thread.

[nathanjizzle]

most deserving to least ( since 2000 )

#1 shaq ( 2000 ) legit mvp
#2 kobe ( 2008 ) legit mvp
#3 garnett ( 2004 ) legit mvp
#4 duncan ( 2002 ) deserved it but shaq was the better player
#5 lebron ( 2013 ) deserved it but had wade/bosh/allen
#6 lebron ( 2010 ) deserved it but kobe was the better player
#7 duncan ( 2003 ) deserved it but kobe was the better player
#8 lebron ( 2012 ) best player but colluded with 2 other guys/lockout year
#9 lebron ( 2009 ) kobe should have won this. better and a 1 less win out west
#10 durant ( 2014 ) not even the most valuable guy on OKC
#11 Dirk ( 2007 ) kobe should have won this. 5 times better a player
#12 Nash ( 2005 ) shaq should have won this. 5 times better a player
#13 nash ( 2006 ) kobe should have won this. 10 times better a player
#14 iverson ( 2001 ) shaq should have won this. 20 times better a player
#15 rose ( 2011 ) LOL

Point gaurd discrimination

[Dr Hawk]

Point gaurd racism


Fixed

[Spurs5Rings2014]

No, he shouldn't have.

The Lakers declined by 11 wins in 2001 and clearly wasn't the same team in the regular season they were in the previous year.

Duncan was the only one who had a legit case over AI.

:applause:

Duncan 3peating MVP's would of his top 5 GOAT stature unarguable.

:coleman:

[Jailblazers7]

Question: If Houston gets passed up by LAC and SA before the end of the season and gets the 6th seed...will that kill him in the MVP voting?

[scm5]

He is. But people here dog Rose about the same thing and he flat out kills the elite at his position.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/h2h_finder.cgi?request=1&p1=curryst01&p2=rosede01

[Euroleague]

But Curry is a good defender, as his net impact indicates. If you're going to claim something, provide evidence to support it.

Saying "watch the games" doesn't work. We all "watch the games".

Another clown that only knows metric stats and can't actually use his own eyes to see what happens.

Do you even understand what these metric stats mean? Or is your IQ too low to even comprehend how they work?

:facepalm :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm

[Euroleague]

Curry would literally average 50+ in the shitty Euroleague with the shorter 3 point line.

I guess that explains why he was such a total POS scrub in both the 2010 and 2014 FIBA World Cups then.................

[Euroleague]

It doesn't matter how good he is in the NBA. The fact that he's in the NBA means he'd be prime Rodman defensively against those unathletic amateur shitstains in Euroleague.


And why bring up Thanasis? Is it because you know there's literally zero argument for Spanoulis over Giannis?

You are the only person probably alive on the planet that thinks Giannis is better than Spanoulis.

Thanasis > Giannis

[24-Inch_Chrome]

You are the only person probably alive on the planet that thinks Giannis is better than Spanoulis.

Thanasis > Giannis

http://i.imgur.com/LtIzc9G.png

[Pointguard]

http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/h2h_finder.cgi?request=1&p1=curryst01&p2=rosede01
Sorry dude, Curry wasn't elite until last year. He was good but never top five when he played Rose until this year. And when he played a hobbled Rose this year, his teammates weren't even looking for him in overtime or crunch time because Rose had him totally covered. And he watched Rose win the game, while not guarding Rose. Rose for a whole year didn't get a whisper out of the elite in 2011. And its rarely happened since.

[navy]

:biggums:

[LoneyROY7]

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m0lgziKcPR1qj966mo1_500.gif

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

Another clown that only knows metric stats and can't actually use his own eyes to see what happens.

Do you even understand what these metric stats mean? Or is your IQ too low to even comprehend how they work?

:facepalm :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm
Hold up, is this an actual reply? You're basically repeating yourself. :oldlol:

Once again, everyone "watches games" kid.

[Heavincent]

Dude just had one of the most efficient games ever. Maybe THE most efficient game ever.

[24-Inch_Chrome]

Hold up, is this an actual reply? You're basically repeating yourself. :oldlol:

Once again, everyone "watches games" kid.

Euroleague is in contention for the dumbest poster on this site. If he believes what he says, the title is his, if he's just trolling, I'll hate him anyway. Win-win.

[J Shuttlesworth]

I love Curry but he wouldn't he be the first MVP in a long time to not average 25 ppg, 10 assists, or 10 rebounds?

edit: Just checked. It's only happened 3 times in history: Malone, Erving, Cousy

[navy]

I love Curry but he wouldn't he be the first MVP in a long time to not average 25 ppg, 10 assists, or 10 rebounds?
Arbitrary cutoffs. Probably though. But let's get real his team is stacked so he doesnt need to put that many minutes and he is a huge reason why the games are put away.

I wouldnt be surprised if Harden won the players mvp vote though I guess.

[Hamtaro CP3KDKG]

I love Curry but he wouldn't he be the first MVP in a long time to not average 25 ppg, 10 assists, or 10 rebounds?

edit: Just checked. It's only happened 3 times in history: Malone, Erving, Cousy
Who cares. CP should win it but Steph has the narrative
he doesnt even play alot of 4th quarters

[Hamtaro CP3KDKG]

Dude just had one of the most efficient games ever. Maybe THE most efficient game ever.
not even close

Dirk game 2 OKC 2011-48pts, 12-15 FG, 24-24 FT

[LoneyROY7]

:oldlol: at the title change.

[J Shuttlesworth]

Harden should win, IMO

But I get the logic. Best player on the best team. It's been that way for a long time, and most of the time it's accurate. I think it's close enough between Curry and Harden to where I don't mind Curry getting it. He is part of a historic team, which is hard to ignore.

[navy]

Why you gotta bail out Fudge like that?

Let's be real it was his jinx in that Thunder Warriors game that made this all possible.

[J Shuttlesworth]

Arbitrary cutoffs. Probably though. But let's get real his team is stacked so he doesnt need to put that many minutes and he is a huge reason why the games are put away.

I wouldnt be surprised if Harden won the players mvp vote though I guess.
I wouldn't really call those cutoffs arbitrary considering every other MVP has fit one of those criteria outside of 3 times

[J Shuttlesworth]

Why you gotta bail out Fudge like that?

Let's be real it was his jinx in that Thunder Warriors game that made this all possible.
"Twist that ankle, little boy" will go down in ISH history :bowdown:

[navy]

I wouldn't really call those cutoffs arbitrary considering every other MVP has fit one of those criteria outside of 3 times
That doesnt make it any less arbirtary just because it's the norm.

Like I said, no denying the Warriors are stacked. But it's not like Curry couldnt average better numbers on a worse team.

[navy]

"Twist that ankle, little boy" will go down in ISH history :bowdown:
It's a shame. Maybe we will find out he jinxed TMac as well.

[J Shuttlesworth]

That doesnt make it any less arbirtary just because it's the norm.

Like I said, no denying the Warriors are stacked. But it's not like Curry couldnt average better numbers on a worse team.
It just becomes a classic example that people will use of "best player on the best team" but that's fine since Curry is in the top tier of players anyway. It does fit the criteria that the voter have used in the past so it's good that they are consistent.

It's a shame. Maybe we will find out he jinxed TMac as well.
You know he used to be a "rockets" fan right? Really a T-Mac stan.

Dude is cursed

http://i.imgur.com/xHK3Bs0.png
http://i.imgur.com/Ta9ZrDD.png

[Relinquish]

His numbers are the same as last year

13-14:
24/4.3/8.5/1.6 on .471/.424

This year:
-.4/0/-.7/.4 and .11/.14

Only his steals are up, the rest are down and he's shooting at just a slightly better percentage.

Meanwhile Harden has improved in almost every category including a 102 DTRG making him a true in/out 2-way player this year and leads the league in win shares as well.

He's also doing all that in less minutes.

[AkronAngel]

Tonight certainly helped the push.

[Collie]

I love Curry but he wouldn't he be the first MVP in a long time to not average 25 ppg, 10 assists, or 10 rebounds?

edit: Just checked. It's only happened 3 times in history: Malone, Erving, Cousy

Dirk?

[1987_Lakers]

Here's a fact for you, if Curry wins MVP he will be the first player to do so averaging under 33 MPG. (Currently at 32.8)

Walton averaged 33.3 MPG in '78.

Nash averaged 34.3 MPG in '05.

[LakersForlife]

curry wins. hardens ugly face is bad for the league

[Ronnie]

Will it surpass Rose's? Nash's?


NOPE , even though DRose stays injured , you are over stating Steph Curry's status . Look , one good season or spell doesn't define a player's true character .

[Ancient Legend]

curry wins. hardens ugly face is bad for the league

:applause:

[Fudge]

Harden is still the MVP, IMO.

One little flukey 45 point game doesn't change that.

[pauk]

He will probably win it.

[Hey Yo]

Tonight certainly helped the push.
He was def. stat paddin' last night.

Ten 3pt FGA in the first half.

[LoneyROY7]

Harden is still the MVP, IMO.

One little flukey 45 point game doesn't change that.

:oldlol:

C'mon son. Roll up that tent, it's time to go home.

[Budadiiii]

Actually kinda sad LeBron can't beat out Curry or James Harden.

Some people argue he's a top 5 all-time player but yet he's getting beat out by these guys. :roll:

He's not in my top 20.

[Achilleas]

fourth quarter points per 36 mins:
Curry : 31.18 pts on 47/43/91 (+157 in 411 mins of action)
Harden: 28.51 pts on 43/33/81 (-8 in 505 mins of action)

[Euroleague]

Hold up, is this an actual reply? You're basically repeating yourself. :oldlol:

Once again, everyone "watches games" kid.

Anyone saying Stephen Curry is a "good defender" falls into one or more of the following categories:

1. A moron.

2. A Curry stan.

3. A liar.

4. A stat geek.

5. An employee of the Golden State Warriors.

6. A tween girl from one of those Curry gifs people like to post in threads, probably with a future in a Chris Hansen special.

[warriorfan]

Anyone saying Stephen Curry is a "good defender" falls into one or more of the following categories:

1. A moron.

2. A Curry stan.

3. A liar.

4. A stat geek.

5. An employee of the Golden State Warriors.

6. A tween girl from one of those Curry gifs people like to post in threads, probably with a future in a Chris Hansen special.



:oldlol: at Alpha Male Curry getting in this dudes head





On a more serious note there was never even a discussion, it's been hands down for Curry for the whole season.

[Heavincent]

Just read a great article about his defense: http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/12648764/how-stephen-curry-developed-top-flight-defender


Thanks to some clever new defensive principles, and despite his spindly frame, Curry has blossomed to become one of the NBA's most effective defenders -- ranking fifth among point guards in defensive real plus-minus. According to Synergy Sports, the opponents he guards have shot just 36.8 percent on the season. He's averaging a career high in steals and a career low in fouls.


In three games against Curry, Westbrook shot far below his averages, at 32.9 percent from the field and 26.3 percent from deep.

http://espn.go.com/gif/2015/0327/steph-005.gif


But according to defensive real plus-minus, he has a more positive impact than more celebrated defenders such as Rajon Rondo, Avery Bradley his teammate Shaun Livingston. And RPM suggests his defense is the best in the league among MVP-caliber guards, ahead of James Harden, Chris Paul or Damian Lillard.

http://espn.go.com/gif/2015/0327/steph-012.gif

http://espn.go.com/gif/2015/0327/steph-004.gif

http://espn.go.com/gif/2015/0327/steph-001.gif

http://espn.go.com/gif/2015/0327/steph-010.gif

http://espn.go.com/gif/2015/0327/steph-014.gif

Suck my dick Euroleague.

[sd3035]

Just read a great article about his defense: http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/12648764/how-stephen-curry-developed-top-flight-defender





http://espn.go.com/gif/2015/0327/steph-005.gif



http://espn.go.com/gif/2015/0327/steph-012.gif

http://espn.go.com/gif/2015/0327/steph-004.gif

http://espn.go.com/gif/2015/0327/steph-001.gif

http://espn.go.com/gif/2015/0327/steph-010.gif

http://espn.go.com/gif/2015/0327/steph-014.gif

Suck my dick Euroleague.

:lebronamazed: :lebronamazed: :lebronamazed: absolutely fukking owned

[LoneyROY7]

Just read a great article about his defense on ESPN: http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/12648764/how-stephen-curry-developed-top-flight-defender





http://espn.go.com/gif/2015/0327/steph-005.gif



http://espn.go.com/gif/2015/0327/steph-012.gif

http://espn.go.com/gif/2015/0327/steph-004.gif

http://espn.go.com/gif/2015/0327/steph-001.gif

http://espn.go.com/gif/2015/0327/steph-010.gif

http://espn.go.com/gif/2015/0327/steph-014.gif

Suck my dick Euroleague.

http://gifrific.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/kevin-garnett-reaction.gif

[24-Inch_Chrome]

http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/OohBurn.gif

Euroleague getting bodied.

[LakersForlife]

Anyone saying Stephen Curry is a "good defender" falls into one or more of the following categories:

1. A moron.

2. A Curry stan.

3. A liar.

4. A stat geek.

5. An employee of the Golden State Warriors.

6. A tween girl from one of those Curry gifs people like to post in threads, probably with a future in a Chris Hansen special.

gotta agree.. Smosh ? Parker guy is better than curry

[MJistheGOAT]

Anyone saying Stephen Curry is a "good defender" falls into one or more of the following categories:

1. A moron.

2. A Curry stan.

3. A liar.

4. A stat geek.

5. An employee of the Golden State Warriors.

6. A tween girl from one of those Curry gifs people like to post in threads, probably with a future in a Chris Hansen special.

7. A not Curry rent-free beta Euro guy.

[gts]

Anyone saying Stephen Curry is a "good defender" falls into one or more of the following categories:

1. A moron.

2. A Curry stan.

3. A liar.

4. A stat geek.

5. An employee of the Golden State Warriors.

6. A tween girl from one of those Curry gifs people like to post in threads, probably with a future in a Chris Hansen special.

Curry leads league in steals, 4th in steals per game of all players, 4th in steal percentage of all players, 11th in defensive win shares (& second highest point guard behind Wall) 2nd highest defensive rating of point guards

GTFO of here, you clearly have not watched Curry.. once again all you've proven is you know nothing about basketball other than how to troll a bball message board

[All Net]

Only a person who is a troll looking for attention thinks curry isn't a good defender now. They wouldn't be number 1 ranked D if he was poor.

His stats holding other PG to low % is very good

[warriorfan]

7. A not Curry rent-free beta Euro guy.


:roll: