View Full Version : The perception that the other Dubs are that good....
sundizz
04-10-2015, 01:14 PM
That is merely a myth. It all comes from Curry. Let's not act like these players are really that great. It's one MVP level player and a bunch of okay to good players. Klay is still inconsistent, and we don't know what everyone else will give you night in and night out in the playoffs.
Literally, not a single one of those players has legitimately done anything noteworthy in their career (except for Livingston's injury).
Have any of you watched those other players dribble the ball? Whenever the game gets close they still rely on Curry to create that hockey assist, assist, or score. Their second best one on one creator is Barbosa.
His on/off numbers (2531 on minutes, 1271 off minutes):
Overall: +16.2
Offense
116.1 (with him on the court)
102.5 (with him off the court)
Defense
99.9 (the opponent's rating with him on)
102.5 (the opponent's rating with him off)
(includes both offense, and defense...otherwise it's Curry by a country mile)
1. Stephen Curry: +16.2
2. Lebron James: +15.1
3. Anthony Davis: +10.7
4. James Harden: +9.4
5. Russell Westbrook: +5.9
T_L_P
04-10-2015, 01:21 PM
Yep.
Harden no doubt has a lesser cast. But he doesn't impact the game while on the court like Curry does (these numbers help show that).
Curry is a deserving MVP and a very strong one.
Skinny boy is still gonna get locked up in the WCF though.
AkronAngel
04-10-2015, 01:23 PM
Curry is easily over Harden in my eyes.
They are definitely overrated offensively. WIthout Curry they would be nothing, but let's be real
Bogut, Green, Iggy, Klay is stacked defensively.
Plus they have so many bodies to throw at people off the bench a luxury other teams dont.
Sounds like a recipe for disaster in the playoffs
Akrazotile
04-10-2015, 01:47 PM
OP is mesmerized by star power.
The Warriors have a good team, with good roles, and a good coach. Curry has had a wonddrful year and been a huge part of their success. That doesnt mean without him they disintegrate. There a good team.
Speaking of that, arent the Rockets known for having scrappy, over-achieving role players. Didnt they pull off the second or third longest winning streak ever (at the time) a few years ago when McGrady was out and then Yao went down 11 games into the streak or something?
Acting like Harden is just carrying D-leaguers on his back bc hes the only guy with a shoe commercial.
I swear, the simplicity of the average fans mind just stuns me. It stuns me.
Achilleas
04-10-2015, 02:01 PM
Since the All-Star Break, Stephen Curry is shooting .497/.520/.950 :bowdown:
TemporaMutantur
04-10-2015, 02:09 PM
Since the All-Star Break, Stephen Curry is shooting .497/.520/.950 :bowdown:
:applause: Damn, I've barely missed a game, but I didn't think it was that nasty.
Now the only question remains is whether GSW are playing the pelicans or Goatbrook and squad.
oarabbus
04-10-2015, 03:11 PM
I don't give a shit why y'all think we're good... the important thing is that we're good :rockon:
bdreason
04-10-2015, 03:18 PM
Just look up some posts from last season. People were calling Barnes a complete bust. Iggy was an overpaid shell of his former self. Bogut was an unreliable injury-prone player. Draymond Green was just a 2nd round hustle player.
Now that the team is winning lots of games, all of a sudden these guys are looked at like All-Stars.
sundizz
04-10-2015, 05:07 PM
Yeah, as a Dubs fan I just want people to give credit to Curry. It's hella unfair to call this team "stacked", when you compare them to what a true stacked team was (Bosh, Wade, Bron, with proven role players like Allen, Haslem, etc) or the Thunder who had ridiculous talent in Russ, Durant, Ibaka and Jackson. Even Memphis with Conley, Marc and Zbo has more proven talent.
Curry is clear MVP because he has taken average/good/unproven players and made them household names.
It is why they sucked against the Spurs. They have two players (Green, Kawhi) that defend Steph hella well, and try to let others beat them (which almost never happens).
sundizz
04-12-2015, 12:32 PM
Interestingly enough, if the MVP race were to shake out like this it would make sense too (now that Harden's team is no longer close to the top of the West).
Eric Cartman
04-12-2015, 01:16 PM
Remember the last game they played against my Lakers.
The whole team played like hot garbage, no one could create their own shot for shit. Curry willed that team to victory, same thing that will happen come playoff time, team goes as far as Curry takes them.
FKAri
04-12-2015, 02:10 PM
Yeah, as a Dubs fan I just want people to give credit to Curry. It's hella unfair to call this team "stacked", when you compare them to what a true stacked team was (Bosh, Wade, Bron, with proven role players like Allen, Haslem, etc) or the Thunder who had ridiculous talent in Russ, Durant, Ibaka and Jackson. Even Memphis with Conley, Marc and Zbo has more proven talent.
Curry is clear MVP because he has taken average/good/unproven players and made them household names.
It is why they sucked against the Spurs. They have two players (Green, Kawhi) that defend Steph hella well, and try to let others beat them (which almost never happens).
Dunno how ppl get away with this saying this kinda shit. Memphis is a 3 man team. GSW is one of the most stacked teams in the league. Maybe not as much as the haters claim but they have some great pieces.
GimmeThat
04-12-2015, 02:15 PM
Mark Jackson
sammichoffate
04-12-2015, 02:20 PM
Dunno how ppl get away with this saying this kinda shit. Memphis is a 3 man team. GSW is one of the most stacked teams in the league. Maybe not as much as the haters claim but they have some great pieces.Someone hasn't heard of the Grindfather or Jeff Green
ncrizzle
04-12-2015, 02:32 PM
Dunno how ppl get away with this saying this kinda shit. Memphis is a 3 man team. GSW is one of the most stacked teams in the league. Maybe not as much as the haters claim but they have some great pieces.
That threesome has won 3 playoff series, and lost 3 others going to 7 games. They have proven they can compete when the postseason comes. They are more proven than gs. But that is just talking about the past which might not mean shit in 2 weekx
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