View Full Version : question to lebron fans
kennethgriffin
04-10-2015, 06:24 PM
Do you all feel that stephen curry is a better basketball player than lebron james as of right now
And do you feel lebron hasnt been the best player since 2013
And that lebron was only the best player 4 times in 12 years
And that maybe the game is about more than espn votes for kia sponsored fake trophies nobody actually can set out to win
Dont yall think theres more to the game?
Makes sense right...
Because even i a kobe fan think that lebron was the most valuable player/best player in
2011
2012
2013
2014
2015
Just as i thought kobe was the one guy every team would want most from
2006
2007
2008
2009
2010
Stats arent everything. Win% isnt everything. Hell even some titles can lie (duncan 2014)
Its about the eye test, respect, word of mouth among players/coaches and the majority of actual unbiased fans
Now do yall see how worthless each and every one of lebrons 4 trophies are considering he should have more of them?
Thats how us kobe fans feel. Somewhat more since we're missing 4 and youre only missing 1
Edit* bonus question*
Do yall think rose was a better player or performer than lebron at any point in his career let alone an entire year? Lol
24-Inch_Chrome
04-10-2015, 06:28 PM
TL;DR. LeBron > Kobe.
http://media.tumblr.com/e16dd16f4de841b391f118f72714a54e/tumblr_inline_nbat9kBEXc1satqni.gif
Trolls aside, I dont think many Lebron fans really think he should win MVP over Curry and Harden this year.
Also revisionist history aside Derrick Rose wasnt looked at as a bad MVP in the regular season that he won it.
24-Inch_Chrome
04-10-2015, 06:30 PM
Trolls aside, I dont think many Lebron fans really think he should win MVP over Curry and Harden this year.
Also revisionist history aside Derrick Rose wasnt looked at as a bad MVP in the regular season that he won it.
Discounting trolls, no one with a brain thinks LeBron should win over Curry and Harden.
LEFT4DEAD
04-10-2015, 06:30 PM
Do you all feel that stephen curry is a better basketball player than lebron james as of right now
And do you feel lebron hasnt been the best player since 2013
And that lebron was only the best player 4 times in 12 years
And that maybe the game is about more than espn votes for kia sponsored fake trophies nobody actually can set out to win
Dont yall think theres more to the game?
Makes sense right...
Because even i a kobe fan think that lebron was the most valuable player/best player in
2011
2012
2013
2014
2015
Just as i thought kobe was the one guy every team would want most from
2006
2007
2008
2009
2010
Stats arent everything. Win% isnt everything. Hell even some titles can lie (duncan 2014)
Its about the eye test, respect, word of mouth among players/coaches and the majority of actual unbiased fans
Now do yall see how worthless each and every one of lebrons 4 trophies are considering he should have more of them?
Thats how us kobe fans feel. Somewhat more since we're missing 4 and youre only missing 1
I like Kobe and Lebron equaly, but the truth is that Kobe has been the clear cut best player only in 2006, opposed to Lebron who has been the best player every year after 2006.
Lebron should have won 6-7 MVPs already. He is just too good individualy.
And yeah, I was using just the eye test on this one.
MJistheGOAT
04-10-2015, 06:31 PM
MVP is not the best player.
kennethgriffin
04-10-2015, 06:31 PM
Trolls aside, I dont think many Lebron fans really think he should win MVP over Curry and Harden this year.
Also revisionist history aside Derrick Rose wasnt looked at as a bad MVP in the regular season that he won it.
You just proved my point though
For the longest time lebron fans said season mvps mean youre better
But if a lebron fan says "yeah curry or harden deserve mbp because they fot the criteria for the mvp.. like "its just a team award or about overcoming a team mates injuries blah blah" ... then arent they admitting to themselves and everyone that its a trivial bogus award that anyone can win
kennethgriffin
04-10-2015, 06:34 PM
I like Kobe and Lebron equaly, but the truth is that Kobe has been the clear cut best player only in 2006, opposed to Lebron who has been the best player every year after 2006.
Lebron should have won 6-7 MVPs already. He is just too good individualy.
And yeah, I was using just the eye test on this one.
That sounds pretty dumb
Just sayin.
Not really worth my time to even respond with more than that. If you woulda said "since 2010... or even a long shot like 2009... " then maybe i'd take your trolling seriously.. but thats just a bad attempt
You need more work at the game my son
kennethgriffin
04-10-2015, 06:34 PM
MVP is not the best player.
Someone gets it ^
You just proved my point though
For the longest time lebron fans said season mvps mean youre better
But if a lebron fan says "yeah curry or harden deserve mbp because they fot the criteria for the mvp.. like "its just a team award or about overcoming a team mates injuries blah blah" ... then arent they admitting to themselves and everyone that its a trivial bogus award that anyone can win
MVP has many factors in it. It can be the best player, best player on the best team, best stats, best record, who did the most with the least.
All I'll say is that there is no scrub winning an mvp.
SugarHill
04-10-2015, 06:36 PM
That sounds pretty dumb
Just sayin.
Not really worth my time to even respond with more than that. If you woulda said "since 2010... or even a long shot like 2009... " then maybe i'd take your trolling seriously.. but thats just a bad attempt
You need more work at the game my son
:roll: :roll: :roll:
MJistheGOAT
04-10-2015, 06:40 PM
You just proved my point though
For the longest time lebron fans said season mvps mean youre better
But if a lebron fan says "yeah curry or harden deserve mbp because they fot the criteria for the mvp.. like "its just a team award or about overcoming a team mates injuries blah blah" ... then arent they admitting to themselves and everyone that its a trivial bogus award that anyone can win
Nice logic, I understand the sense in your post. In fact, I agree. We should give more value to the years where MVP = best player when comparing player resumes.
For example MJ MVP-best player 1991 vs 2011 MVP not best player D Rose.
The modern list of best players will be MJ to Hakeem to MJ to Shaq to Kobe to Lebron.
MVP is another topic because of team and story factors (injuries, overachieving, voter fatigue, etc)
LEFT4DEAD
04-10-2015, 06:48 PM
That sounds pretty dumb
Just sayin.
Not really worth my time to even respond with more than that. If you woulda said "since 2010... or even a long shot like 2009... " then maybe i'd take your trolling seriously.. but thats just a bad attempt
You need more work at the game my son
Dumb?
Leading bunch of D-League players to the finals and getting 27/7/6 on 47% on nightly basis in his 4th season is dumb???
GTFO fool.
ShawkFactory
04-10-2015, 08:22 PM
If I was drafting a team to play and no context was thrown in Lebron would be the first pick in 2010. He was the best individual player in basketball.
He was a more dominant player than Kobe that year.
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