View Full Version : are poor people greedier then rich people??
NZStreetBaller
04-11-2015, 05:36 AM
Poor people seem to have more of a sense of entitlement and an expectation of the government to look after them just because they pay their taxes. and alot of them dont plan for their retirement. they expect the pension at a certain age.
They complain about the minimum wage quite often and their bosses and seem to hate on their rich because the rich drive around in flash cars and spend their money on lavish things such as cars houses clothes for their dogs.
poor people also seem to think a good idea is to tax the rich more. (and why because they have more money) the rich dont get food stamps or pensions or welfare. the poor are the ones who take more from the government so its seems only fitting that they pay more IMO.
the whole robin hood theory (take from the rich and give to the poor) is a joke and doesnt work. its just a thing that the government utilize to try and win votes because the poor believe this to be an effective way to cure their own poverty.
But it doesnt work. it never works. never has never will work. if you took all the money off the rich people and divided it among all the people in the world equally. it would only be a matter of time before the money returns to the same hands.
what poor people dont seem to understand is they are poor and the rich is rich because of their own mentality.
Poor minded people stay poor
Rich minded people become rich.
how many times have you heard of someone growing up poor with the worst circumstances and becoming a millionaire
how many times have you heard of a poor person winning lotto only to become broke again. or even athletes turning poor.
dubeta
04-11-2015, 06:03 AM
PM me for the answer, boy.
JEFFERSON MONEY
04-11-2015, 06:06 AM
Question ain't whose greedier.
Question is are u gonna find your societys needs and are you gonna develop a talent and serve them?
NZStreetBaller
04-11-2015, 06:15 AM
Question ain't whose greedier.
Question is are u gonna find your societys needs and are you gonna develop a talent and serve them?
nice lol. rich persons mentality thurr
:facepalm
The bulk of the rich's wealth comes from rent seeking and not from an iota of productive contribution to the economy.
Imagine a river on which merchants boat their goods downstream. A man has spanned a chain across the river and demands a toll in exchange for lowering it so that the merchants can carry on their business. Each time a merchant wishes to pass through he gets a chunk of the fruits of productive endeavor but himself hasn't contributed anything to wealth production. What would stop the merchants from using the river had the toll take never existed? The river would still be there.
That's essentially how the rich make the bulk of their money. Not through productive contribution to the economy, but by putting up barriers, being scam artists, having appropriated highly valuable land and natural resources which would exist anyways, etc.
robert de niro
04-11-2015, 10:21 AM
this is widely studied in game theory and the answer is no
MightyWhitey
04-11-2015, 10:39 AM
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What socialist enclave do you inhabit???
Hold on right there.
Me a socialist??? ROTFL.
Take a look at this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geolibertarianism
"it is the value of the improvement only, and not the earth itself, that is individual property" - Thomas Paine
I guess Thomas Paine qualifies as being from a socialist enclave, if you have no ****ing idea what socialism means, that is.
NumberSix
04-11-2015, 10:50 AM
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warriorfan
04-11-2015, 10:52 AM
Poor people seem to have more of a sense of entitlement and an expectation of the government to look after them just because they pay their taxes. and alot of them dont plan for their retirement. they expect the pension at a certain age.
They complain about the minimum wage quite often and their bosses and seem to hate on their rich because the rich drive around in flash cars and spend their money on lavish things such as cars houses clothes for their dogs.
poor people also seem to think a good idea is to tax the rich more. (and why because they have more money) the rich dont get food stamps or pensions or welfare. the poor are the ones who take more from the government so its seems only fitting that they pay more IMO.
the whole robin hood theory (take from the rich and give to the poor) is a joke and doesnt work. its just a thing that the government utilize to try and win votes because the poor believe this to be an effective way to cure their own poverty.
But it doesnt work. it never works. never has never will work. if you took all the money off the rich people and divided it among all the people in the world equally. it would only be a matter of time before the money returns to the same hands.
what poor people dont seem to understand is they are poor and the rich is rich because of their own mentality.
Poor minded people stay poor
Rich minded people become rich.
how many times have you heard of someone growing up poor with the worst circumstances and becoming a millionaire
how many times have you heard of a poor person winning lotto only to become broke again. or even athletes turning poor.
Retarded shit
~primetime~
04-11-2015, 10:56 AM
There are greedy heartless fcks both rich and poor...
In going to say they're is more heartlessness amongst the poor though on average... Many rich people are very giving, not all of them are ruthless CEOs willing to fire anyone to get another $1.
Meanwhile in the poor community you can find prostitution, murder, drugs, etc in a much greater abundance than rich communities.
It's hilarious how in your own analogy, it completely eluded you that.....
Toll demander = government.
Wrong. The landowner, in his capacity as a landowner, is the main toll taker in the economy. Via his privilege of parasitism he charges the producer for the value of all the services and infrastructure government provides, the amenities the community provides, and what nature provides, and that without contributing anything whatsoever: the land would be there even if he or any other landowner had never existed. He gets paid for NOT STOPPING wealth production just as the toll taker at the river gets paid for NOT STOPPING production.
NumberSix
04-11-2015, 11:26 AM
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MightyWhitey
04-11-2015, 11:44 AM
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MightyWhitey
04-11-2015, 11:52 AM
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GimmeThat
04-11-2015, 12:26 PM
We can certainly say that poor people cant afford targets.
As to them being greedier.
Remember. Even while in the macro economy sense where price is determined by supply and demand. It is not so in the micro economy.
Godzuki
04-11-2015, 12:47 PM
its obviously poor people being greedier because they have less. anyone making $300k a year doesn't give a fukk about giving a few $20's to splurge. that family on welfare $20 is a lot of money but that rich dude thinks its nothing to spend on a dinner.
problem is in America everyone is rather spoiled because we have so many social programs that are abused. if we include foreign 3rd world countries in this thread then yeah poor people are way greedier than rich people because they have so much less.
~primetime~
04-11-2015, 12:58 PM
It's almost like they are poor and desperate
And why aren't these broke people being more charitable with their nothing? Fvking cheap fvks
Right the situations they are in make them the way they are... To some degree
Although anyone can donate their time... They're are poor people out their trying to help
robert de niro
04-11-2015, 01:06 PM
its obviously poor people being greedier because they have less. anyone making $300k a year doesn't give a fukk about giving a few $20's to splurge. that family on welfare $20 is a lot of money but that rich dude thinks its nothing to spend on a dinner.
problem is in America everyone is rather spoiled because we have so many social programs that are abused. if we include foreign 3rd world countries in this thread then yeah poor people are way greedier than rich people because they have so much less.
all experiments lead to believe the opposite, you are just spewing your own personal opinion, not reality
NZStreetBaller
04-11-2015, 07:20 PM
Retarded shit
No intellectual elaboration.... typical coming from you.
NZStreetBaller
04-11-2015, 07:41 PM
There are two perspectives when considering land ownership. One comes from the poor the other comes from the rich. The problem is the poor only see things from their point of view and fail to understand What the rich perspective.
the rich generally think win win. Ill help you. You help me.
For example: I (the rich person) own 10 houses. you (the poor person own nothing.) Because you simply cannot afford to buy your own property i can offer you this pne to live in.
Unfortunately this house cost me 290 to hold. So i shall rent it out to you for $300 and $900 dollars bond which will be returned to you when u leave.
That way you get a place to live in without having to save massive amounts of money you do not have for a deposit on a mortgage In an exchange for helping me pay my expenses And making my house an investment of 10 dollars a week Win win. Helping eachother out.
However the poor people see it as.... oh man so he expects me to pay off his mortgage.
fsvr54
04-11-2015, 08:38 PM
Not everyone can become rich, lol, capitalism thrives of economic classes and differential advantage. If everyone was rich the Earth's enviroment would collapse. America has very low social mobility. Opportunities are finite, the vast majority of poor people just won't have them. At least half of rich people are rich because of connections or plain old luck (hard work lol, more like benefiting off the working class), everything is situational. You are what you see every day.
NZStreetBaller
04-11-2015, 09:35 PM
Not everyone can become rich, lol, capitalism thrives of economic classes and differential advantage. If everyone was rich the Earth's enviroment would collapse. America has very low social mobility. Opportunities are finite, the vast majority of poor people just won't have them. At least half of rich people are rich because of connections or plain old luck (hard work lol, more like benefiting off the working class), everything is situational. You are what you see every day.
you are right about the fact that not everyone can become rich and in alot of cases the rich are rich because of consumers.
The second part you are wrong. connections and luck is not what makes the difference. rich people generally are connected because they made the connections. Luck basically comes from being open to and searching for opportunity.
poor people have a belief system that you gotta have money to make money. Or u gotta have connections to be rich. This is what i call a limited belief system which ultimately in my opinion is the reason poor will remain poor.
I know all this because i was raised in a very poor family and a poor enviroment. Ive heard all the stories. But all i did was change my way of thinking and it made me alot better off then all the people i knew when i was young. I now seem to have all these connections and all this so called luck abd i can tell you its got nothing to do with it.
NumberSix
04-11-2015, 10:41 PM
Not everyone can become rich, lol, capitalism thrives of economic classes and differential advantage. If everyone was rich the Earth's enviroment would collapse. America has very low social mobility. Opportunities are finite, the vast majority of poor people just won't have them. At least half of rich people are rich because of connections or plain old luck (hard work lol, more like benefiting off the working class), everything is situational. You are what you see every day.
There no such economic system of "capitalism". Never existed and never will.
What we have is a free market system. That system thrives off trade. "Classes" play no part whatsoever.
kNIOKAS
04-12-2015, 05:34 AM
Poor people seem to have more of a sense of entitlement and an expectation of the government to look after them just because they pay their taxes. and alot of them dont plan for their retirement. they expect the pension at a certain age.
They complain about the minimum wage quite often and their bosses and seem to hate on their rich because the rich drive around in flash cars and spend their money on lavish things such as cars houses clothes for their dogs.
poor people also seem to think a good idea is to tax the rich more. (and why because they have more money) the rich dont get food stamps or pensions or welfare. the poor are the ones who take more from the government so its seems only fitting that they pay more IMO.
the whole robin hood theory (take from the rich and give to the poor) is a joke and doesnt work. its just a thing that the government utilize to try and win votes because the poor believe this to be an effective way to cure their own poverty.
But it doesnt work. it never works. never has never will work. if you took all the money off the rich people and divided it among all the people in the world equally. it would only be a matter of time before the money returns to the same hands.
what poor people dont seem to understand is they are poor and the rich is rich because of their own mentality.
Poor minded people stay poor
Rich minded people become rich.
how many times have you heard of someone growing up poor with the worst circumstances and becoming a millionaire
how many times have you heard of a poor person winning lotto only to become broke again. or even athletes turning poor.
So many things wrong with this post, I'm gonna assume this guy is trollying.
For everybody that agrees - that's why you're scum of the earth. You're uneducated, keep working for the devil.
There no such economic system of "capitalism". Never existed and never will.
What we have is a free market system. That system thrives off trade. "Classes" play no part whatsoever.
Yeah. Whatever you say is how things are. Just say and that's how they are. Thanks for inventing world for us.
MightyWhitey
04-12-2015, 12:27 PM
Not everyone can become rich, lol, capitalism thrives of economic classes and differential advantage. If everyone was rich the Earth's enviroment would collapse. America has very low social mobility. Opportunities are finite, the vast majority of poor people just won't have them. At least half of rich people are rich because of connections or plain old luck (hard work lol, more like benefiting off the working class), everything is situational. You are what you see every day.
America is number one because you do have the freedom to make yourself rich in this country. You're certainly free to try but you are not entitled to be given riches or to be treated with kid gloves trying to get there. And you are misinformed about how an economy works. It's a Free Market and this is why you're able get shiny gold teeth and baggy I pooped myself pants with the $390 air Jordan's. Good luck down there.
You can really tell whose angry at the world and blames society for their ills on ish. Like knioka. Comes from a breadline in some God foresaken 3rd world country and he's going to tell you how it is. Because youtube and Kevinnyc educated him. :rolleyes:
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