White cops going too far again ( Video evidence of them breaking thabo's leg)

[Im so nba'd out]

http://www.tmz.com/2015/04/10/thabo-sefolosha-arrest-video-nypd-officer-swing-baton/

We put our hands in the air and say please dont shoot us.They shoot us

We say please i cant breath.They choke us until we die

We stand there doing nothing they beat us.

We run away unarmed they shoot us.

We pull out our wallet when they ask for identification they shoot us.

yet people think we make up how cops harass us + plant evidence

[Im Still Ballin]

When will the chaos end?

[Lensanity]

Typical ****ing pigs. And only pigs have power of the pigs so there won't be any punishment I'm sure. That profession only attracts the biggest piece of shit abusive power whores of humanity. I hope every single pig in the United States of America dies a slow and torturous death.

[04mzwach]

Damn, that's his livelihood they're taking away. The cop should get fired!

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

This phagg0t has now brought his cancer into the main forums. :facepalm

[Im so nba'd out]

This phagg0t has now brought his cancer into the main forums. :facepalm
grow up

[FKAri]

Open and shut case Johnson. Just sprinkle some crack on 'em.

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

grow up
It's the same threads with you. Bait and repeat.

Hop off your alt and quote me on your main, pvssy b*tch.

[inclinerator]

how much did lelbron pay him

[Im so nba'd out]

It's the same threads with you. Bait and repeat.

Hop off your alt and quote me on your main, pvssy b*tch.
how is this baiting?Did they not break his leg for no reason http://i.imgur.com/CJLsXKo.png

[sdot_thadon]

Damn. Hawks vs. City of new York case incoming

[ArbitraryWater]

#SwissLivesMatter

[Im so nba'd out]

lol i got negged for making this thread :roll:

[Xoush]

He should thank whoever was filming the incident. Only god knows what those mofos would have done to him if there wasnt a camera rolling.

[Lensanity]

Don't worry guys. The police department will run a thorough investigation analyzing all the facts and evidence and then clear the officer of absolutely everything and give him a raise.

[DirkLegend41]

Hawks fans are pissed. They wanna find that NY cop.

[Lensanity]

I hope Thabo sues the NYPD for millions

****ing pigs.

[COnDEMnED]

Was the cop dribbling an NBA basketball or a WNBA ball?

[atljonesbro]

Some Hawks fans were actually victim blaming Thabo for this too :oldlol: Thug cop decides he wants to break his leg for no reason then lie about the story yet it's Thabo's fault.

[KingBeasley08]

**** the police

[DavisWarriorsFan]

"You cost us the NBA Championship! :mad:" - The Hawks and Hawks fans.

[KingBeasley08]

Thabo was "resisting arrest" doe and he "assaulted an officer". srsly fck nypd. they're the biggest gangsters in nyc

[JerrySeinfeld]

lol at that cop hitting sefolosha when he was already down and the other officers were dealing with him.

bron curse strikes again :facepalm

[UK2K]

I heard get on the ground several times before they dog piled him.

Had he just laid down like they asked, he may still be playing right now.

They finally got him down, and he was still struggling, so, he got a baton to the leg, per police procedure (I was an MP).

That's what you get. I've never seen cops beating someone for complying with their instructions.

Generally, its someone who thinks they don't have to listen, and then they complain when they get beat.

[JerrySeinfeld]

I heard get on the ground several times before they dog piled him.

Had he just laid down like they asked, he may still be playing right now.

They finally got him down, and he was still struggling, so, he got a baton to the leg, per police procedure (I was an MP).

That's what you get. I've never seen cops beating someone for complying with their instructions.

Generally, its someone who thinks they don't have to listen, and then they complain when they get beat.

they were telling him to get on the ground but at the same time were jerking him around like a child, and once he actually was on the ground they then hit him

[mehyaM24]

do what the cops say? you'll have no problems.

it's really that simple.

[ralph_i_el]

Lots of cop stories out their right now that are really ****ed up. None of them seem to feature a victim that actually complied with legal directions from the officers. It's possible that both sides are wrong in the majority of these cases.

Won't end until a prison sentence isn't also a sentence to lifetime poverty. Lots of people go to jail for crimes stemming from their poverty, and having a felony record only continues the cycle, creating generational poverty.

Reform social security and entitlements so my millionaire grandparents aren't getting a social security check they don't need (and the thousands of other issues with the system)

Reform the justice system to incentivize bringing people out of poverty instead of grinding them (and their children , and their children's children) into the dirt.

Reform our economic system so that anyone willing to work hard can make a living. Our economy rewards having capital so much, that you hit a point where your money makes so much money that it creates a cycle of wealth (not unlike the cycle of poverty propograted by the justice system). Having money is the best way to make money and that's a fact. It should be easier to get rich than to stay rich. That isn't the case. We need big ol' capital gains tax rates on folks making $250,000 or more a year.

Ralph for president 2016

[dreamwarrior]

Cops have a zero tolerance policy. They were trying to question the guy on the ground but Thabo kept getting in the way. He made himself a threat. The cops had no idea if he was armed or not.

[UK2K]

they were telling him to get on the ground but at the same time were jerking him around like a child, and once he actually was on the ground they then hit him
They said it at least twice before they drug him in front of the car.

I promise you, you and your three friends could all pull me in different directions and I could still drop to the ground. But he didn't. He stood there, acting like he wasn't resisting, even though he was obviously attempting to stand up.

So, I have no sympathy for him. Had he laid down from the get go like they told him to, he's playing right now.

[upside24]

Open and shut case Johnson. Just sprinkle some crack on 'em.
:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

[ImKobe]

do what the cops say? you'll have no problems.

it's really that simple.

implying this is true :oldlol:

[TheMan]

What gets me is all these idiots willingly being cops apologists. :facepalm

Most cops are uneducated power hungry assholes, (this line of work attracts these types) there are tons of YouTube videos of cops harrassing the citizenry. I personally knew a couple of guys who became pigs and they were shitty human beings.

You dumbasses who always make excuses for cops when they're shown using excessive force will be happy when the US becomes a police state :facepalm

You're worse than these dirty cops, fvck you all :mad:

[Lensanity]

Lots of cop stories out their right now that are really ****ed up. None of them seem to feature a victim that actually complied with legal directions from the officers. It's possible that both sides are wrong in the majority of these cases.

Won't end until a prison sentence isn't also a sentence to lifetime poverty. Lots of people go to jail for crimes stemming from their poverty, and having a felony record only continues the cycle, creating generational poverty.

Reform social security and entitlements so my millionaire grandparents aren't getting a social security check they don't need (and the thousands of other issues with the system)

Reform the justice system to incentivize bringing people out of poverty instead of grinding them (and their children , and their children's children) into the dirt.

Reform our economic system so that anyone willing to work hard can make a living. Our economy rewards having capital so much, that you hit a point where your money makes so much money that it creates a cycle of wealth (not unlike the cycle of poverty propograted by the justice system). Having money is the best way to make money and that's a fact. It should be easier to get rich than to stay rich. That isn't the case. We need big ol' capital gains tax rates on folks making $250,000 or more a year.

Ralph for president 2016

:applause:

[UK2K]

What gets me is all these idiots willingly being cops apologists. :facepalm

Most cops are uneducated power hungry assholes, (this line of work attracts these types) there are tons of YouTube videos of cops harrassing the citizenry. I personally knew to guys who became pigs and they were shit humans.

You dumbasses who always make excuses for cops when they're shown using excessive force will be happy when the US becomes a police state :facepalm

You're worse than these dirty cops, fvck you all :mad:
No, we just understand that for every YouTube video, there are 1,000,000 arrests that went according to plan.

Kinda like, for every Muslim terrorist there are millions of Muslims who are peaceful.

You only hear about the ones who blow shit up though.

[magictricked]

Course the video starts when the take down happens instead of starting where it shows Thabo refusing to leave the crime scene after being asked to leave or when Thabo starts giving the cop trouble for ordering Pero to get on the ground. It's a crime scene are you involved no? then GTFO

Can't believe how some fools make their lives so hard for themselves

[Thunderfan86]

I heard get on the ground several times before they dog piled him.

Had he just laid down like they asked, he may still be playing right now.

They finally got him down, and he was still struggling, so, he got a baton to the leg, per police procedure (I was an MP).

That's what you get. I've never seen cops beating someone for complying with their instructions.

Generally, its someone who thinks they don't have to listen, and then they complain when they get beat.
Just for the record, the police officer never hit him with the baton. He just whipped it out/extended it and that's what made that noise. Calm down guys

[Xiengqichess]

Cops are racist. Even Asian or black cops are racist toward their own people. It seems like they are brain-washed when they join the forces.

[stanlove1111]

Typical ****ing pigs. And only pigs have power of the pigs so there won't be any punishment I'm sure. That profession only attracts the biggest piece of shit abusive power whores of humanity. I hope every single pig in the United States of America dies a slow and torturous death.

You know less then 1 percent of cops and are talking this crap.

[Im so nba'd out]

Lots of cop stories out their right now that are really ****ed up. None of them seem to feature a victim that actually complied with legal directions from the officers. It's possible that both sides are wrong in the majority of these cases.

Won't end until a prison sentence isn't also a sentence to lifetime poverty. Lots of people go to jail for crimes stemming from their poverty, and having a felony record only continues the cycle, creating generational poverty.

Reform social security and entitlements so my millionaire grandparents aren't getting a social security check they don't need (and the thousands of other issues with the system)

Reform the justice system to incentivize bringing people out of poverty instead of grinding them (and their children , and their children's children) into the dirt.

Reform our economic system so that anyone willing to work hard can make a living. Our economy rewards having capital so much, that you hit a point where your money makes so much money that it creates a cycle of wealth (not unlike the cycle of poverty propograted by the justice system). Having money is the best way to make money and that's a fact. It should be easier to get rich than to stay rich. That isn't the case. We need big ol' capital gains tax rates on folks making $250,000 or more a year.

Ralph for president 2016
:applause:

[stanlove1111]

I heard get on the ground several times before they dog piled him.

Had he just laid down like they asked, he may still be playing right now.

They finally got him down, and he was still struggling, so, he got a baton to the leg, per police procedure (I was an MP).

That's what you get. I've never seen cops beating someone for complying with their instructions.

Generally, its someone who thinks they don't have to listen, and then they complain when they get beat.

Bingo.

I love this freaking idiots who think cops owe people a fair fight. You see these morons come out everytime something happens. And they always use hindsite, like the cops should known that the guy is unarmed and not a threat because the poster knows that days later.

Cops are out there trying to do their job and stay alive but if someone gives them trouble, then they better take it easy on them ( putting themselves more at risk ) because anti cops are worried that the moron who gave the cop a hard time didn't have a fair fight.

[niko]

I've seen bad cops do things, and i've been thrown against a wall by a cop for no reason. Cops telling a drunk 6 foot 5 man several times to move and finally taking him down, rather quickly, with no beating after is not police brutality, it's police work.

If you think this is excessive then essentially you don't want police because how do you take down a large human without a level of force?

Note Antic doesn't fight and there's no pile on. He sits down, stays down, and talks. Sefalosha is struggling from the moment the cops move in and struggling hard.

Considering all the real shit going on with the police i find it kind of insulting Thabo is getting that kind of feedback considering he did what he's charged with doing it looks like.

[robert de niro]

now the hawks got a proper excuse for a bad performance in the playoffs

[mehyaM24]

Cops are out there trying to do their job and stay alive but if someone gives them trouble, then they better take it easy on them ( putting themselves more at risk ) because anti cops are worried that the moron who gave the cop a hard time didn't have a fair fight.
exactly.

sefolosha could have backed away the FIRST time he was asked. out at 4 in the morning, drinking & still does not have the common sense to heed a cops demand. not saying he deserved what he got, but he is not blameless either. FAR from.

[Im so nba'd out]

updated original post we really need to stop blaming the victim when stuff happens to them.The cop was wrong he hit him for no reason when he was on the ground and broke his fibula for no reason.It's 6 cops and his hands are cuffed.He wasn't going to get away everyone knows who he is.

[mehyaM24]

I've seen bad cops do things, and i've been thrown against a wall by a cop for no reason. Cops telling a drunk 6 foot 5 man several times to move and finally taking him down, rather quickly, with no beating after is not police brutality, it's police work.

If you think this is excessive then essentially you don't want police because how do you take down a large human without a level of force?

Note Antic doesn't fight and there's no pile on. He sits down, stays down, and talks. Sefalosha is struggling from the moment the cops move in and struggling hard.

Considering all the real shit going on with the police i find it kind of insulting Thabo is getting that kind of feedback considering he did what he's charged with doing it looks like.
before i watch the heat game (dragic is going to BEAST on wall!!) - i would also like to echo these sentiments.

like, if a cop tells you to back off, you back off. there really NO reason you should get arrested without committing a crime. just like mouthing off in court and getting time for being in contempt, there's just no reason to do it. NOTHING good can come from resisting police & not following instructions. so unless they are killing you or your family, just submit and if they're in the wrong you can sue them and get paid - hell, this is america right? :oldlol:

[stanlove1111]

http://www.tmz.com/2015/04/10/thabo-sefolosha-arrest-video-nypd-officer-swing-baton/

We put our hands in the air and say please dont shoot us.They shoot us

We say please i cant breath.They choke us until we die

We stand there doing nothing they beat us.

We run away unarmed they shoot us.

We pull out our wallet when they ask for identification they shoot us.

yet people think we make up how cops harass us + plant evidence


Round and round we go. Blacks blame cops everytime something happens,( even blame the white cop who shoots a 300 pound black guy who is attacking him ) so blacks have a bigger distrust of cops, which of course leads to black being disrespectful to cops and challenging them, which leads to blacks getting their teeth caved in by cops when blacks resist which leads to blacks blaming cops, which leads to blacks having distrust of cops, which of course leads to blacks disrespectful of cops which leads to blacks challenging cops, which leads to blacks getting hurt and killed by cops, which leads to blacks blaming cops everytime, and so on and so on..

Gee I wonder where this is headed.

This will end when blacks do something about the huge problem with black culture, and that the ridiculously high percentage of blacks causing trouble, that is causes most of the problems for all blacks. Until this happens people including cops will be very distrustful of black people they come in contact with..Just the way it is and any black on here would be the same way in the cops shoes.

Good black people maybe should start blaming the black thugs for the ways things are but they have decided to blame everyone else instead.


I have yet to see a black person blame the Travon Martin tragedy on the black thugs who were breaking into houses in that neighborhood, which is what put the neighborhood including Zimmerman on the defensive to begin with. And I am sure I never will.

[Im so nba'd out]

Round and round we go. Blacks blame cops everytime something happens,( even blame the white cop who shoots a 300 pound black guy who is attacking him ) so blacks have a bigger distrust of cops, which of course leads to black being disrespectful to cops and challenging them, which leads to blacks getting their teeth caved in by cops when blacks resist which leads to blacks blaming cops, which leads to blacks having distrust of cops, which of course leads to blacks disrespectful of cops which leads to blacks challenging cops, which leads to blacks getting hurt and killed by cops, which leads to blacks blaming cops everytime, and so on and so on..

Gee I wonder where this is headed.

This will end when blacks do something about the huge problem with black culture, and that the ridiculously high percentage of blacks causing trouble, that is causes most of the problems for all blacks. Until this happens people including cops will be very distrustful of black people they come in contact with..Just the way it is and any black on here would be the same way in the cops shoes.

Good black people maybe should start blaming the black thugs for the ways things are but they have decided to blame everyone else instead.


I have yet to see a black person blame the Travon Martin tragedy on the black thugs who were breaking into houses in that neighborhood, which is what put the neighborhood including Zimmerman on the defensive to begin with. And I am sure I never will.
why are you making this a race issue.its a dirty cop issue bro

[magictricked]

This will end when blacks do something about the huge problem with black culture, and that the ridiculously high percentage of blacks causing trouble, that is causes most of the problems for all blacks. Until this happens people including cops will be very distrustful of black people they come in contact with..Just the way it is and any black on here would be the same way in the cops shoes.

Good black people maybe should start blaming the black thugs for the ways things are but they have decided to blame everyone else instead.




Whenever a Black man speaks out against the culture and says they have to take responsibility for themselves he gets shouted down and labled an Uncle Tom

[magictricked]

why are you making this a race issue.its a dirty cop issue bro
Why are you making it a moron issue? Grow up

[Lensanity]

There are definitely a lot of pigs that are racist but most of them are just abusive pieces of shit to everyone no matter what their skin color is.

[PistonsFan#21]

Whenever a Black man speaks out against the culture and says they have to take responsibility for themselves he gets shouted down and labled an Uncle Tom

Whenever a Black man speaks out about racial profiling and police brutality he gets shut down and they tell him to stop making excuses and that slavery days are over.

[ImKobe]

exactly.

sefolosha could have backed away the FIRST time he was asked. out at 4 in the morning, drinking & still does not have the common sense to heed a cops demand. not saying he deserved what he got, but he is not blameless either. FAR from.

:rolleyes:

he was clearly not a threat to the police, it's not like he was trying to attack them. They had him down, there was no need to use force. Just take him away and that's it.

[stanlove1111]

why are you making this a race issue.its a dirty cop issue bro

That why the thread title starts off with White Cops.

I thought it was about why people don't follow cops instructions.

[westsideozzie]

I would love for all the white folks who are law and order hounds to be black for a few days and see how their white counterparts would treat them in sticky situations. If you black you are going to get shot, choked, or beaten and then they will lie about it in the police report.

[stanlove1111]

Whenever a Black man speaks out against the culture and says they have to take responsibility for themselves he gets shouted down and labled an Uncle Tom


Good point and they are the biggest victims of black culture.

[stanlove1111]

There are definitely a lot of pigs that are racist but most of them are just abusive pieces of shit to everyone no matter what their skin color is.
I would bet you don't know 10 cops, so you are just pulling that out of your stink hole.

[niko]

before i watch the heat game (dragic is going to BEAST on wall!!) - i would also like to echo these sentiments.

like, if a cop tells you to back off, you back off. there really NO reason you should get arrested without committing a crime. just like mouthing off in court and getting time for being in contempt, there's just no reason to do it. NOTHING good can come from resisting police & not following instructions. so unless they are killing you or your family, just submit and if they're in the wrong you can sue them and get paid - hell, this is america right? :oldlol:

he was drunk and fried and it was 4am, that's why this happened. Funny thing is you know they'll reduce the charge to disorderly and time served, but they are embarrassed so they are fighting it.

There's a lot of problems with the police as you can see practically daily now. This wasn't one of them.

[Lensanity]

I would bet you don't know 10 cops, so you are just pulling that out of your stink hole.

If you don't believe me then go online to literally any pig forum. Easily over 95% of pigs in the USA are in support of the murderer in South Carolina even despite that video footage.

I hope all ****ing pigs get tortured to the point of death with all of their family members watching them slowly die.

[PistonsFan#21]

Round and round we go. Blacks blame cops everytime something happens,( even blame the white cop who shoots a 300 pound black guy who is attacking him ) so blacks have a bigger distrust of cops, which of course leads to black being disrespectful to cops and challenging them, which leads to blacks getting their teeth caved in by cops when blacks resist which leads to blacks blaming cops, which leads to blacks having distrust of cops, which of course leads to blacks disrespectful of cops which leads to blacks challenging cops, which leads to blacks getting hurt and killed by cops, which leads to blacks blaming cops everytime, and so on and so on..

Gee I wonder where this is headed.

This will end when blacks do something about the huge problem with black culture, and that the ridiculously high percentage of blacks causing trouble, that is causes most of the problems for all blacks. Until this happens people including cops will be very distrustful of black people they come in contact with..Just the way it is and any black on here would be the same way in the cops shoes.

Good black people maybe should start blaming the black thugs for the ways things are but they have decided to blame everyone else instead.


I have yet to see a black person blame the Travon Martin tragedy on the black thugs who were breaking into houses in that neighborhood, which is what put the neighborhood including Zimmerman on the defensive to begin with. And I am sure I never will.

Why is all the burden of solving this problem on the black community? Why do law abiding black folks have to pay the consequences and get the blame for what their criminal counterparts have done? This logic doesnt make any sense.

Yet police unnecessary use of force in most cases against any black person is somehow justified even though the cops are the one that should be held to a higher standard of expectations.

[Hotlantadude81]

http://www.tmz.com/2015/04/10/thabo-sefolosha-arrest-video-nypd-officer-swing-baton/

We put our hands in the air and say please dont shoot us.They shoot us

We say please i cant breath.They choke us until we die

We stand there doing nothing they beat us.

We run away unarmed they shoot us.

We pull out our wallet when they ask for identification they shoot us.

yet people think we make up how cops harass us + plant evidence

One black person dies at the hands of cops per day.

While that number is still higher than it should be, it's not the epidemic that people make it out to be.

[PistonsFan#21]

he was drunk and fried and it was 4am, that's why this happened. Funny thing is you know they'll reduce the charge to disorderly and time served, but they are embarrassed so they are fighting it.

There's a lot of problems with the police as you can see practically daily now. This wasn't one of them.

If you are 6 cops on 1 man who's not even fighting back and barely resisting and you still cant subdue him without having to use your stick then maybe becoming a police officer is not the right job for you.

[Im so nba'd out]

This has nothing to do with race yet hotlantadude and stanlove keep going...If the cop was green he would still be a dirty piece of shit and the title of the thread would of been green cop.If the cops were black the title would of been black cops go too far.


If the white cops broke kyle korver's leg guess what....this would still be a story

[navy]

What race is Thabo anyways?

[Ray22]

This will end when cops do something about the huge problem with cops culture, and that the ridiculously high percentage of cops abusing power, that is causes most of the problems for all cops. Until this happens people including blacks will be very distrustful of cops they come in contact with..Just the way it is and any cop on here would be the same way in the blacks shoes.


fixed :cheers:

[KevinNYC]

he was drunk and fried and it was 4am, that's why this happened. Funny thing is you know they'll reduce the charge to disorderly and time served, but they are embarrassed so they are fighting it.

There's a lot of problems with the police as you can see practically daily now. This wasn't one of them.

I was wondering about this earlier: were the Hawks involved because of the arrogance of celebrity culture? Were they ignoring the cops just because they were NBA players?

Because I don't know the Hawks were involved at all? Why were they inserting themselves into the incident? Were they friends of Copeland's? Were they even at the club together? Because none of the reports mention that.

Decided to look in this before posting, and see if anyone has an accurate timeline of what happened. Found this (https://sports.vice.com/article/everything-about-the-chris-copeland-stabbing-is-wrong)

What happened here? A plausible alternative to the police claim that two prominent NBA players would disobey police orders to the point of physical combat on the eve of a top seeded playoff run is, as journalist Jared Zwerling was informed by a source close to Copeland, that the "Hawks players were shielding [Copeland] from those crowding/taking photos." The likelihood of this professional courtesy seems overwhelming, as does the possibility that Antić and Sefolosha would persist longer than the police wanted. As does the prospect of the police doing much more than they needed to do about it.

So I would say this has very much to do with celebrity culture but the way I thought. It might have to do with being a celebrity in incessantly voyeuristic society that doesn't give celebrities any privacy. If the Hawks were trying to block camera access, they were trying to prevent this from showing up on a show like TMZ, ironically.

[Hotlantadude81]

This has nothing to do with race yet hotlantadude and stanlove keep going...If the cop was green he would still be a dirty piece of shit and the title of the thread would of been green cop.If the cop was black the title would of been black cops goes too far.


If the white cops broke kyle korver's leg guess what....this would still be a story

People make it about race all the time on facebook.

[KevinNYC]

If you are 6 cops on 1 man who's not even fighting back and barely resisting and you still cant subdue him without having to use your stick then maybe becoming a police officer is not the right job for you.

That's the whole point about why it's illegal to resist arrest. If you are resisting which Thabo absolutely was, the police can move to increasing levels of force. Resisting arrest is a crime because you are putting the police, possibly the public and possibly yourself in danger.

You're not supposed the settle the whole issue on the street at 4am when you are possibly not sober.

[RightTwoCensor]

Why are idiots in this thread trying to make it a race issue? It's an issue of misuse of force. It's 20-freaking-15 and people still don't understand that. The fact that you retards are debating about this on the NBA Forum makes you look 10x as stupid.

Mods, lock this shit.

[warriorfan]

Fighting with cops and not expecting to get hurt, sounds legit.

[PistonsFan#21]

That's the whole point about why it's illegal to resist arrest. If you are resisting which Thabo absolutely was, the police can move to increasing levels of force. Resisting arrest is a crime because you are putting the police, possibly the public and possibly yourself in danger.

You're not supposed the settle the whole issue on the street at 4am when you are possibly not sober.

using unecessary force is also illegal for the cops. Thabo was already on the ground and there was like 5 cops restraining him. The baton hit that fractured his leg was definitely uncalled for

[PistonsFan#21]

Fighting with cops and not expecting to get hurt, sounds legit.

i didnt see any fight in the link posted. Maybe you were watching a different video?

[stanlove1111]

If you are 6 cops on 1 man who's not even fighting back and barely resisting and you still cant subdue him without having to use your stick then maybe becoming a police officer is not the right job for you.

I noticed you said barely resisting, In other words he was still resisting.

So the cops should be stronger, that's your argument? LOL..

[stanlove1111]

This has nothing to do with race yet hotlantadude and stanlove keep going...If the cop was green he would still be a dirty piece of shit and the title of the thread would of been green cop.If the cops were black the title would of been black cops go too far.


If the white cops broke kyle korver's leg guess what....this would still be a story


The 2nd time he had tried to claim its not about race after starting a thread with the headline White Cops.

[stanlove1111]

That's the whole point about why it's illegal to resist arrest. If you are resisting which Thabo absolutely was, the police can move to increasing levels of force. Resisting arrest is a crime because you are putting the police, possibly the public and possibly yourself in danger.

You're not supposed the settle the whole issue on the street at 4am when you are possibly not sober.

Bingo..

They don't owe you a fair fight. Their job is to end it as quickly as they can. IF people don't like that they don't start trouble with a cop who is already worried about the risks he faces.

[Lensanity]

Holy ****ing shit.

I just got arrested for weed. The same day as my pig rant. **** PIGS! ****ING KILL ALL OF THEM!!!

Why the **** is weed illegal go choke on my ****ing **** America.

****.

[stanlove1111]

Why are idiots in this thread trying to make it a race issue? It's an issue of misuse of force. It's 20-freaking-15 and people still don't understand that. The fact that you retards are debating about this on the NBA Forum makes you look 10x as stupid.

Mods, lock this shit.

Its not misuse of force, its about some dummy who started trouble with the cops.

[AkronAngel]

:facepalm

[stanlove1111]

Holy ****ing shit.

I just got arrested for weed. The same day as my pig rant. **** PIGS! ****ING KILL ALL OF THEM!!!

Why the **** is weed illegal go choke on my ****ing **** America.

****.

Yeah because cops make the laws.

[ImKobe]

Its not misuse of force, its about some dummy who started trouble with the cops.

Blaming the victim :facepalm

Anyone that blames Thabo here NEEDS to realize how this damn thing even started. Some idiot decided it was a good idea to stab Copeland and his wife. Thabo was just a witness, and a drunk one at that. He wasn't just randomly at some club, trying to fight anyone... He was hurt for no reason.

[tomtucker]

Blaming the victim :facepalm

Anyone that blames Thabo here NEEDS to realize how this damn thing even started. Some idiot decided it was a good idea to stab Copeland and his wife. Thabo was just a witness, and a drunk one at that. He wasn't just randomly at some club, trying to fight anyone... He was hurt for no reason.

was he not asked to leave several times ? :confusedshrug:

[Joyner82reload]

They literally did nothing wrong :lol
The cop didn't hit Thabo with his baton, he withdrew it and that was it. Thabo was never struck, he was pushed around to get him out of the crime scene which he had NO BUSINESS being in once the police arrived. Misuse of force my dick, go stand in a crime scene(which is freaking attempted murder, not some joke crime) and refuse to move. See what happens.

[keep-itreal]

#NBAlivesmatter
#stopslavery

[PistonsFan#21]

I noticed you said barely resisting, In other words he was still resisting.

So the cops should be stronger, that's your argument? LOL..

yes my argument is that cops aren't allowed to hit people with their baton if the guy isnt a threat or trying to fight back...Especially when you are 6 police officers against 1 single guy. Have you ever heard of the term police brutality or unecessary force?

Of course cops should be stronger we dont want some weak b*tches to serve and protect us. Dont they have physical tests to pass?

[stanlove1111]

yes my argument is that cops aren't allowed to hit people with their baton if the guy isnt a threat or trying to fight back...Especially when you are 6 police officers against 1 single guy. Have you ever heard of the term police brutality or unecessary force?

Of course cops should be stronger we dont want some weak b*tches to serve and protect us. Dont they have physical tests to pass?

The cops didn't hit him with their baton. This has been explained to you more then once but you are obviously the type who just wants to bitch about police.

If you are resisting arrest then you are a threat period. They heave to turn their back on the others around to deal with the dummy resisting. Its in the cops interest to get it over with as quickly as possible.


OF course cops should be stronger? LOL..Yes I guess they should only hired the strongest guys out there and then get rid of them when they get older.

[PistonsFan#21]

The cops didn't hit him with their baton. This has been explained to you more then once but you are obviously the type who just wants to bitch about police.

If you are resisting arrest then you are a threat period. They heave to turn their back on the others around to deal with the dummy resisting. Its in the cops interest to get it over with as quickly as possible.


OF course cops should be stronger? LOL..Yes I guess they should only hired the strongest guys out there and then get rid of them when they get older.

So you are saying cops shouldnt have a certain strength level? you wouldnt have a problem with all the cops being 65+ years old when they are supposedly serving and protecting the community? If you get older and weaker then you should be doing paper work and working behind a desk instead of being on the field where you are expected to sometimes resolve dangerous and physical altercations.

Same goes for marine, military, etc. LOL at you acting like certain levels of strength arent necessary and theres no problem with old guys defending our communities.

I wouldnt want 6 military guys that couldnt handle a single guy without some tools either. This aint only about cops.

[ATL_Bball_King]

The cops didn't hit him with their baton. This has been explained to you more then once but you are obviously the type who just wants to bitch about police.

If you are resisting arrest then you are a threat period. They heave to turn their back on the others around to deal with the dummy resisting. Its in the cops interest to get it over with as quickly as possible.


OF course cops should be stronger? LOL..Yes I guess they should only hired the strongest guys out there and then get rid of them when they get older.


What you don't understand is, this is the type of stuff cops do...they expect you to do anything they say no matter the situation, even if u are in your own home...we have our rights and cops don't abibe by them...and if you don't listen to them even for a second they think they can do anything to you and call it resisting...had this happen to me a few months ago...they came into my home and stayed ordering me around...just because my door was unlocked...

if he was not in the NBA, this would have just been another day at work for them...but since he is in the NBA its being investigated because its not right...cops job is to protect and serve...are they protecting our serving in this situation???

[Im so nba'd out]

mods please lock this thread its gone far enough nothing good can come out of this

[Le Shaqtus]

They literally did nothing wrong :lol
The cop didn't hit Thabo with his baton, he withdrew it and that was it. Thabo was never struck, he was pushed around to get him out of the crime scene which he had NO BUSINESS being in once the police arrived. Misuse of force my dick, go stand in a crime scene(which is freaking attempted murder, not some joke crime) and refuse to move. See what happens.

So his leg magically broke?

[Joyner82reload]

So his leg magically broke?

It was broken in the scuffle while he was pushed, in all likely hood he got pushed into a car/while going up steps or something. He was never hit with the baton, period. As for the guy arguing that cops should be stronger, ya one cop should clearly be able to overpower a 6'5 professional athlete in the prime of their career :rolleyes:

[Phenith]

Bingo.

I love this freaking idiots who think cops owe people a fair fight. You see these morons come out everytime something happens. And they always use hindsite, like the cops should known that the guy is unarmed and not a threat because the poster knows that days later.

Cops are out there trying to do their job and stay alive but if someone gives them trouble, then they better take it easy on them ( putting themselves more at risk ) because anti cops are worried that the moron who gave the cop a hard time didn't have a fair fight.

So basically, there as a whole army of guys everywhere who can take you down and assault you because they don't know if you are dangerous or not?

Watch the video man, he is getting pushed and pulled all over the place by cops telling him to get down, what is he supposed to do, just drop to the ground, he's not even in control of his movements at any point in the video, the cops are.

The big part I question, is what happened before that video started... why where they all over him already? The take down was definitely aggressive, and I'm highly doubting that Thabo did something to start this that warranted that kind of attack on him.

This isn't about what happened so much as why it happened. People shouldn't just give up their rights as citizens just because a cop speaks. To all those that say just do as the cops say an you'll be fine, that's a servants mentality. We don't serve the police, they serve us and with the exploding number of stories where police are blatantly abusing their powers, the more you need to question them on it. When you just do as you are told even when it goes against your rights, you are empowering them and basically telling them that it's OK they are abusing their power. I don't know about you, but I really don't want to live in a place where the police can do whatever they want regardless of our rights.

[sfballa13]

That police department is ****ed for sure

The Hawks and NBA Players Association along with Thabo are going to sue...BIG TIME!

No way some billionaire is gonna be ok losing out on a player worth millions in the playoffs due to some reckless cop.

[ImKobe]

That's the whole point about why it's illegal to resist arrest. If you are resisting which Thabo absolutely was, the police can move to increasing levels of force. Resisting arrest is a crime because you are putting the police, possibly the public and possibly yourself in danger.

You're not supposed the settle the whole issue on the street at 4am when you are possibly not sober.

He wasn't putting anyone in danger...he was simply intoxicated....6 cops and 1 guy...he's an NBA player...

[UK2K]

If you are 6 cops on 1 man who's not even fighting back and barely resisting and you still cant subdue him without having to use your stick then maybe becoming a police officer is not the right job for you.
It wouldn't take 6 if you could simply hit him in the back of the leg with a baton.

Then it'd only take 1.

But then people would complain that's excessive.

As a former Marine Corps MP, I have had to deal with a lot of intoxicated people, many of them a lot bigger than me. Am I gonna risk my safety to take someone down on their own? No. Could I? Yeah sure, but it'd be excessive in your eyes. But if it means I go home at the end of the night, so be it

You have to understand, just because you see a guy who is unarmed doesn't make him any less dangerous. A lot of my friends from the Marine Corps were black belt Marine Corps Martial Arts instructors. You wouldn't know it by looking at them, but they could kill you before you could react.

That's the thing. Cops don't know who is armed and who isnt. So to avoid getting your ass beat, you simply be polite and comply until the cops are done doing what they're doing. That's it. No back talk. No 'not resisting but still obviously resisting' actions.

Just sit there, shut the fvck up, and then go on your way later. That's it. If everyone did that, nobody would ever have a bad run in with the cops.

[ATL_Bball_King]

It wouldn't take 6 if you could simply hit him in the back of the leg with a baton.

Then it'd only take 1.

But then people would complain that's excessive.

As a former Marine Corps MP, I have had to deal with a lot of intoxicated people, many of them a lot bigger than me. Am I gonna risk my safety to take someone down on their own? No. Could I? Yeah sure, but it'd be excessive in your eyes. But if it means I go home at the end of the night, so be it

You have to understand, just because you see a guy who is unarmed doesn't make him any less dangerous. A lot of my friends from the Marine Corps were black belt Marine Corps Martial Arts instructors. You wouldn't know it by looking at them, but they could kill you before you could react.

That's the thing. Cops don't know who is armed and who isnt. So to avoid getting your ass beat, you simply be polite and comply until the cops are done doing what they're doing. That's it. No back talk. No 'not resisting but still obviously resisting' actions.

Just sit there, shut the fvck up, and then go on your way later. That's it. If everyone did that, nobody would ever have a bad run in with the cops.


This is not true, There are plenty of cops who like to abuse there authority, and simply because they can doesnt make it right...They will excessivly treat you like they are above you and you better listen to them or they can beat your ass without any repercussions... So even if the cop is in the wrong we should just sit back and listen while they show no respect...We all are human and answer to the same God, just cause they have a gun doesnt mean they can treat you how they see fit...

[Joyner82reload]

That police department is ****ed for sure

The Hawks and NBA Players Association along with Thabo are going to sue...BIG TIME!

No way some billionaire is gonna be ok losing out on a player worth millions in the playoffs due to some reckless cop.

And they will lose. There was nothing excessive about what they did. And the NYPD has an annual budget of 5 billion dollars, good luck thinking an NBA team worth a fraction of that is going to sue them and do damage.

[stanlove1111]

What you don't understand is, this is the type of stuff cops do...they expect you to do anything they say no matter the situation, even if u are in your own home...this situation???


Your darn right its the stuff cops do. They have a very dangerous job and their first goal is to stay safe and it should be. They don't have the hindsite you clowns always use to try and decide who is armed and who is not.

Blming the individual cops is ridiculous anyway. here is how it works and here is how it has to work. Police practices and training come from things that have happened in the past to police. They look at things that have happened in situations like this and come up with the best practices to avoid cops getting hurt and killed in the future. Obviously the best way to avoid cops getting hurt and killed if for them to assume anyone they deal with is a danger( because they can't tell if their are or not ) and to take total control of the situation.

IF you don't see that it how it has to work then you are not very bright and are not very fair to the cops who deal with this tuff all the time.

[gts]

So if these two Mensa candidates get convicted I wonder how many games they get suspended for next season

[stanlove1111]

He wasn't putting anyone in danger...he was simply intoxicated....6 cops and 1 guy...he's an NBA player...

That just shows how irrational you are and desperate to throw anything out there to try and win argument.

he is an NBA player? What the hell does that have to do with it. You mean hes pretty big?

[UK2K]

This is not true, There are plenty of cops who like to abuse there authority, and simply because they can doesnt make it right...They will excessivly treat you like they are above you and you better listen to them or they can beat your ass without any repercussions... So even if the cop is in the wrong we should just sit back and listen while they show no respect...We all are human and answer to the same God, just cause they have a gun doesnt mean they can treat you how they see fit...

Ok, I agree.

But if you sit there and shut the fvck up and not back talk, you'll be on your way in a few minutes.

I have never seen a video where a cop walked up the side of someones car with his baton out and just started beating someone for no reason.

I have been pulled over, probably a dozen times, for driving a drug dealers car (black camry, black rims, white HID headlights, limo tinted windows) but have never had someone beat me.

I have even brake checked a cop, who pulled me over for literally nothing, and walked up to my window screaming at me. I simply sat there, answered his real questions, listened to his rhetorical ones, and after a 10 minute rage he went on down the road.

Its simple courtesy, and in your best interest, to just sit there and listen and not talk back. Thats the problem, people think they can argue their way out of a ticket or dont have to listen because #BlackLivesMatter tells us that you dont have to respect the cops. I assure you, that you do.

My father is a retired cop. Worked 26 years on the job. Despite that, I dont know anyone who hates cops more than me. Even got a job as a cop, and turned it down when I decided I didnt want to work with cops.

Its just a simple thing. Sit there, be quiet, go home. The end.

What happens between the time you are pulled over and the end of the night is entirely dependent on you. Accept some responsibility. I know its tough in the world we live in today, but for once, please, accept the consequences of your actions.

[stanlove1111]

mods please lock this thread its gone far enough nothing good can come out of this

Gotta love this cloen. Starts a thread obviously as a racial thread, then complains when people make it racial, then when it doesn't go the way he wants begs and pleads the mods to close the thread..

By the way why the heck would it matter to you if the thread is closed or not? never understand the people who ask for threads to be closed. Why would you care if others are talking about something you brought up to begin with..If someone is forcing you are gunpoint to read the thread give us a signal here, we will call the police for you.

[ATL_Bball_King]

Ok, I agree.

But if you sit there and shut the fvck up and not back talk, you'll be on your way in a few minutes.

I have never seen a video where a cop walked up the side of someones car with his baton out and just started beating someone for no reason.

I have been pulled over, probably a dozen times, for driving a drug dealers car (black camry, black rims, white HID headlights, limo tinted windows) but have never had someone beat me.

I have even brake checked a cop, who pulled me over for literally nothing, and walked up to my window screaming at me. I simply sat there, answered his real questions, listened to his rhetorical ones, and after a 10 minute rage he went on down the road.

Its simple courtesy, and in your best interest, to just sit there and listen and not talk back. Thats the problem, people think they can argue their way out of a ticket or dont have to listen because #BlackLivesMatter tells us that you dont have to respect the cops. I assure you, that you do.

My father is a retired cop. Worked 26 years on the job. Despite that, I dont know anyone who hates cops more than me. Even got a job as a cop, and turned it down when I decided I didnt want to work with cops.

Its just a simple thing. Sit there, be quiet, go home. The end.

What happens between the time you are pulled over and the end of the night is entirely dependent on you. Accept some responsibility. I know its tough in the world we live in today, but for once, please, accept the consequences of your actions.


I agree sometimes if you just sit there and not say anything you will be left alone...But this is not always the situation...And how can you just sit there why someone is disrepecting you for no reason at all...I was about to go to jail for a Uhaul i purchased but they thought i had stole it just because i didnt have the papers in the uhaul...It took me snapping at them about how they are racial profiling inorder for them to let me go...If i just sat there and let them think i stole the Uhaul cause i couldnt prove it at the moment i would of been in jail that night simply for no reason...Its hard sitting there shutting up when someone treats you like a thug but in actuality im an electrical engineer who graduated from Ga Tech, but because of my skin color they will always treat me like a thug with a gun in my pocket...

[ATL_Bball_King]

Your darn right its the stuff cops do. They have a very dangerous job and their first goal is to stay safe and it should be. They don't have the hindsite you clowns always use to try and decide who is armed and who is not.

Blming the individual cops is ridiculous anyway. here is how it works and here is how it has to work. Police practices and training come from things that have happened in the past to police. They look at things that have happened in situations like this and come up with the best practices to avoid cops getting hurt and killed in the future. Obviously the best way to avoid cops getting hurt and killed if for them to assume anyone they deal with is a danger( because they can't tell if their are or not ) and to take total control of the situation.

IF you don't see that it how it has to work then you are not very bright and are not very fair to the cops who deal with this tuff all the time.


So they should treat every situation like a life threatening situation and disrespect people no matter what??

Who the hell is killing cops but real ****ing criminals...And if they see every single person in the world as a potential criminal then i feel sorry for their lives

[UK2K]

I agree sometimes if you just sit there and not say anything you will be left alone...But this is not always the situation...And how can you just sit there why someone is disrepecting you for no reason at all...I was about to go to jail for a Uhaul i purchased but they thought i had stole it just because i didnt have the papers in the uhaul...It took me snapping at them about how they are racial profiling inorder for them to let me go...If i just sat there and let them think i stole the Uhaul cause i couldnt prove it at the moment i would of been in jail that night simply for no reason...Its hard sitting there shutting up when someone treats you like a thug but in actuality im an electrical engineer who graduated from Ga Tech, but because of my skin color they will always treat me like a thug with a gun in my pocket...

I did five years in the Marine Corps.

But in your situation, I wouldn't have snapped. Simply say 'I rented it, I don't have the paper work, but if you hang on for just a second I'll call the location and have them verify to you'.

That's it.

Don't need to be a dick, just calmy explain the situation. Cops are people too, 9 times out of 10 they'll hear your side of the story IF you talk to them like a person.

What ends up fvcking people is when they yell at the cops and DEMAND they hear their side. All you're doing is making it harder on yourself.

My car smelled like marijuana one time, cause, well I smoke weed. I didn't have any weed in the car but the cop asked to search my car.

Now I could have told him no, in which case, hed make me sit there while they call the K9 unit who will take an hour to get there, only to have the dog hit on my car, and then they'd rip it apart.

But instead, I told them sure, search it, I had weed in the center console earlier, there's none there now, I wasn't high at the time, so knock yourself out.

They searched my car on the side of the road, literally took everything out, and found nothing. They put it all back, I said thanks, they said thanks for being honest but they were just doing their job. I said I understood, and I'm glad they did do their job. We shook hands, I left.

Never got a baton to the leg once.

[daily]

How many other people outside the club got arrested that night for getting in the cops way? None is the answer A night club with dozens and dozens of people milling around after a stabbing and the only guys that get popped are the two that refused to get the **** out of the way and let the cops do their job

[Lensanity]

Ok, I agree.

But if you sit there and shut the fvck up and not back talk, you'll be on your way in a few minutes.

I have never seen a video where a cop walked up the side of someones car with his baton out and just started beating someone for no reason.

I have been pulled over, probably a dozen times, for driving a drug dealers car (black camry, black rims, white HID headlights, limo tinted windows) but have never had someone beat me.

I have even brake checked a cop, who pulled me over for literally nothing, and walked up to my window screaming at me. I simply sat there, answered his real questions, listened to his rhetorical ones, and after a 10 minute rage he went on down the road.

Its simple courtesy, and in your best interest, to just sit there and listen and not talk back. Thats the problem, people think they can argue their way out of a ticket or dont have to listen because #BlackLivesMatter tells us that you dont have to respect the cops. I assure you, that you do.

My father is a retired cop. Worked 26 years on the job. Despite that, I dont know anyone who hates cops more than me. Even got a job as a cop, and turned it down when I decided I didnt want to work with cops.

Its just a simple thing. Sit there, be quiet, go home. The end.

What happens between the time you are pulled over and the end of the night is entirely dependent on you. Accept some responsibility. I know its tough in the world we live in today, but for once, please, accept the consequences of your actions.

Why the **** should we all have to bow down to the pigs and suck their ***** during encounters? That's bullshit.

[Lensanity]

I'm praying that the NBA sues the **** out of the PIG Department. Only the worst of the worst pieces of shit in humanity become pigs. Just ****ing kill all of those power whores.

[warriorfan]

i've gotten pulled over in my suv and have them just ask where the drugs at, wrestle me out of the car and place me under arrest for "resisting arrest". I asked the cop what I was first arrested for and he said resisting arrest :confusedshrug: puts me in the car and then searches my shit for 30+ minutes taking out side panels and shit....gave me endless sobriety tests and I passed. I was letting my girl drive and she was climbing in the driver seat and the cop was staring at her ass and said some shit...I knew he was baiting me to try to get me to do shit but I knew if I did anything I would go to jail and it isn't worth it. that is how he wins. the cops will antagonize you on purpose to try to get you to slip up and then you go to jail and they win. anyways the whole stop lasted over an hour and half and ended up not charging me with anything

[UK2K]

So they should treat every situation like a life threatening situation and disrespect people no matter what??

Who the hell is killing cops but real ****ing criminals...And if they see every single person in the world as a potential criminal then i feel sorry for their lives
The one time they don't see a criminal for a criminal, they're dead.

Man With AK 47 Shot To Death By Police. POLICE DASH CAM. SHOOT TO KILL ...: https://youtu.be/LuOEJKiKELA

As an MP, I've seen hundreds of videos of seemingly normal, calm, reasonable people that can flip a switch and put a gun in your face in the blink of an eye...as you can see the video above, a seemingly normal traffic stop, and it changes into a fight for his life THAT QUICK.

Complacency kills. When you get comfortable and in a routine, you end up dead.

That's what people like you don't understand.

Oregon State Police Shoot Out - Man Speeding Shoots at Police: https://youtu.be/60a2xIz600A

How long does it take that guy to pull out his gun? A second? Less than a second. The cop goes from asking politely for him to get back into the car, and less than a second later, he's got bullets flying at him.

People like you don't see these videos. They don't get passed around Facebook. All you see is 'white cop shoots black man'.

Its sad.

[UK2K]

i've gotten pulled over in my suv and have them just ask where the drugs at, wrestle me out of the car and place me under arrest for "resisting arrest". I asked the cop what I was first arrested for and he said resisting arrest :confusedshrug: puts me in the car and then searches my shit for 30+ minutes taking out side panels and shit....gave me endless sobriety tests and I passed. I was letting my girl drive and she was climbing in the driver seat and the cop was staring at her ass and said some shit...I knew he was baiting me to try to get me to do shit but I knew if I did anything I would go to jail and it isn't worth it. that is how he wins. the cops will antagonize you on purpose to try to get you to slip up and then you go to jail and they win. anyways the whole stop lasted over an hour and half and ended up not charging me with anything
I call bullshit.

Because you're a shitty poster.

And I really, really doubt they just ran up to your door, accused you of being s drug smuggler, and threw you on the ground for no reason.

Sounds like shit to me.

[warriorfan]

I call bullshit.

Because you're a shitty poster.

And I really, really doubt they just ran up to your door, accused you of being s drug smuggler, and threw you on the ground for no reason.

Sounds like shit to me.

haha you sound just like a cop...you should of never quit you would of fit right in


it was in LA and I pulled out of a motel and they started following me...I had 49er shit on my car so they thought I was out of the area

[UK2K]

haha you sound just like a cop...you should of never quit you would of fit right in


it was in LA and I pulled out of a motel and they started following me...I had 49er shit on my car so they thought I was out of the area

No, I just have common sense.

Never in my life have I ever heard of an officer just running up to a car and dragging the operator out and accusing them of smuggling drugs with no evidence and no explanation.

You sound like those 'witnesses' in Ferguson who flat out, blatantly lied about what they saw. Unfortunately for them, forensics tells the truth.

[ILLsmak]

Firemen don't, or shouldn't, put their safety first, so why should cops? Cops do need to get tougher, whether it's their psychpathic need to dominate everyone who opposes them or legit fear that leads them to end up injuring people, they need to stop. Let someone do something first. It sucks if a cop gets hurt or killed... but its better than the alternative. That should be their job. It should be hard.

They aren't altruistic at all, best case, and worst is that they are just assholes. That's why America is ****ed, dudes too selfish to look at the big picture and be like I might get hurt here, but it's my job to protect and serve, and hold out until force is absolutely necessary. Opposed to be like ogod hes gonna hurt us... the dog is gonna bite me!!

Cuz most people aren't gonna attack a cop, and if they do then they deserve it. This imo wasn't an attack but a flub while trying to gain control, someone lost their cool and they should be disciplined.

-Smak

[warriorfan]

No, I just have common sense.

Never in my life have I ever heard of an officer just running up to a car and dragging the operator out and accusing them of smuggling drugs with no evidence and no explanation.

You sound like those 'witnesses' in Ferguson who flat out, blatantly lied about what they saw. Unfortunately for them, forensics tells the truth.

first you are greatly exaggerating, who said anything about a the cop running up, he came up and asked if I had any drugs in the car and I said no and he asked me to get out and I said I would rather stay in my car. My door was locked and my window was half way cracked and then he stuck his arm in quickly and opened the door and then tried to grab me and I did resist because he surprised me but he never said what I did in the first place.

this is what goes down... you are just burying your head in the sand :facepalm

[stanlove1111]

first you are greatly exaggerating, who said anything about a the cop running up, he came up and asked if I had any drugs in the car and I said no and he asked me to get out and I said I would rather stay in my car. My door was locked and my window was half way cracked and then he stuck his arm in quickly and opened the door and then tried to grab me and I did resist because he surprised me but he never said what I did in the first place.

this is what goes down... you are just burying your head in the sand :facepalm

Now you are saying they asked you if you had drugs, that not what you said in the other post.

Reading this post I hope you got your ass kicked bad for resisting and refusing to get out with your window cracked. You know how dangerous that is for the cop? If you can't see that you are nothing but a moron.

You are the problem and you sit here playing victim.

[PejaTheSerbSnip]

Only the worst of the worst pieces of shit in humanity become pigs. Just ****ing kill all of those power whores.
Well, now that's a little excessive:biggums:

[warriorfan]

Now you are saying they asked you if you had drugs, that not what you said in the other post.

Reading this post I hope you got your ass kicked bad for resisting and refusing to get out with your window cracked. You know how dangerous that is for the cop? If you can't see that you are nothing but a moron.

You are the problem and you sit here playing victim.


im pretty sure they have to tell you why you need to get out of the car

[UK2K]

Firemen don't, or shouldn't, put their safety first, so why should cops? Cops do need to get tougher, whether it's their psychpathic need to dominate everyone who opposes them or legit fear that leads them to end up injuring people, they need to stop. Let someone do something first. It sucks if a cop gets hurt or killed... but its better than the alternative. That should be their job. It should be hard.

They aren't altruistic at all, best case, and worst is that they are just assholes. That's why America is ****ed, dudes too selfish to look at the big picture and be like I might get hurt here, but it's my job to protect and serve, and hold out until force is absolutely necessary. Opposed to be like ogod hes gonna hurt us... the dog is gonna bite me!!

Cuz most people aren't gonna attack a cop, and if they do then they deserve it. This imo wasn't an attack but a flub while trying to gain control, someone lost their cool and they should be disciplined.

-Smak
Good luck having anyone sign up to put their life on the line on a daily basis knowing they have to have the criminal make the first move.

That's partly why I got out of the marine corps. Our ROEs changed to where I literally had to wait for someone to fire a burst of 7.62 at me before I could respond.

So, well make it known, for every officer and criminal, that you can meticulously plan your murder of the cops because they have their hands tied when trying to defend themselves

Great plan. That's why we lost the war in Afghanistan and Iraq. You think the insurgents don't know our ROEs just like we do? They're not stupid.

"I know you're a father and a husband, but your life isn't as important as the crack smoking rapist you have to arrest that is on his second strike and won't go to jail without a fight".

Solid plan.

[PistonsFan#21]

No, I just have common sense.

Never in my life have I ever heard of an officer just running up to a car and dragging the operator out and accusing them of smuggling drugs with no evidence and no explanation.

You sound like those 'witnesses' in Ferguson who flat out, blatantly lied about what they saw. Unfortunately for them, forensics tells the truth.


I saw a cop asking for someones license and then shoot them 5+ times point blank when he tried to get it for him:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XFYTtgZAlE

and that was on video. Imagine all the shooting they do off video when theres no witnesses. Hell there's this cop 3-4 days ago that shot a guy in the back 8 f*cking times and then tried to place evidence right next to him:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kXO3Ix_GIyI&bpctr=1428873488


Why should we trust cops again? If you feel they should treat every encounter like a life or death situation then im also allowed to act like every cop is a potential murderer with a badge and killing license.

[ATL_Bball_King]

Uk2 and Stan, i understand where yall are coming from and cops do need to protect them selves...but at the same time...there are good cops out there...but the majority of cops ive come incounter with are power hungry...they act like they are more powerful than u as a person and treat u like that...they fell like they are always in command and no one can stop then or judge them...they are human and have the same anger issues and sin just like the rest of us...

[UK2K]

I saw a cop asking for someones license and then shoot them 5+ times point blank when he tried to get it for him:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XFYTtgZAlE

and that was on video. Imagine all the shooting they do off video when theres no witnesses. Hell there's this cop 3-4 days ago that shot a guy in the back 8 f*cking times and then tried to place evidence right next to him:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kXO3Ix_GIyI&bpctr=1428873488


Why should we trust cops again? If you feel they should treat every encounter like a life or death situation then im also allowed to act like every cop is a potential murderer with a badge and killing license.

And in both instances, the officers were disciplined and charged with aggravated assault (in the first case) or murder (in the second), just like you or I would have, so Im not sure what youre complaining about.

Feel free to act like every cop is a murderer, even though the chances of being murdered by a police officer during a contact is about .000028%.

By all means, knock yourself out.

[UK2K]

Uk2 and Stan, i understand where yall are coming from and cops do need to protect them selves...but at the same time...there are good cops out there...but the majority of cops ive come incounter with are power hungry...they act like they are more powerful than u as a person and treat u like that...they fell like they are always in command and no one can stop then or judge them...they are human and have the same anger issues and sin just like the rest of us...

I agree with everything you said. Thats why I didn't want to be a cop. Like I said, my father is a retired cop of 26 years, and I dislike them more than anyone I know.

But I also have common sense, and I understand that if it were me and the situation was reversed, I'd do the same thing in most instances.

That's why I dont complain about getting pulled over so often. I drive a car that looks like a drug deal would drive, and I (did) work nights, so I was going to work at 11pm, when a drug dealer would be out. So, using my common sense, I accepted the fact that I would be pulled over.

There's no love lost there. I'm not mad about it. In fact, I'm glad they're doing their jobs.

[NumberSix]

Round and round we go. Blacks blame cops everytime something happens,( even blame the white cop who shoots a 300 pound black guy who is attacking him ) so blacks have a bigger distrust of cops, which of course leads to black being disrespectful to cops and challenging them, which leads to blacks getting their teeth caved in by cops when blacks resist which leads to blacks blaming cops, which leads to blacks having distrust of cops, which of course leads to blacks disrespectful of cops which leads to blacks challenging cops, which leads to blacks getting hurt and killed by cops, which leads to blacks blaming cops everytime, and so on and so on..

Gee I wonder where this is headed.

This will end when blacks do something about the huge problem with black culture, and that the ridiculously high percentage of blacks causing trouble, that is causes most of the problems for all blacks. Until this happens people including cops will be very distrustful of black people they come in contact with..Just the way it is and any black on here would be the same way in the cops shoes.

Good black people maybe should start blaming the black thugs for the ways things are but they have decided to blame everyone else instead.


I have yet to see a black person blame the Travon Martin tragedy on the black thugs who were breaking into houses in that neighborhood, which is what put the neighborhood including Zimmerman on the defensive to begin with. And I am sure I never will.
Blacks aren't responsible for "black culture". Each person is only responsible for themselves.

[PistonsFan#21]

Uk2 and Stan, i understand where yall are coming from and cops do need to protect them selves...but at the same time...there are good cops out there...but the majority of cops ive come incounter with are power hungry...they act like they are more powerful than u as a person and treat u like that...they fell like they are always in command and no one can stop then or judge them...they are human and have the same anger issues and sin just like the rest of us...

exactly. UK2K is talking as if cops dont do dumb and foul shit like lie, plant evidence, and straight up break the law.

Here's a group of about 8-10 cops breaking the law by beating up a guy who's on the ground and not even resisting arrest: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TyLfHuPZQQY

Here's a cop with anger issues that would have probably beat up a guy to a pulp if there wasnt witnesses all around: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGSrGmHsT8s (and people like this are allowed to carry guns and control us?) :facepalm

[UK2K]

exactly. UK2K is talking as if cops dont do dumb and foul shit like lie, plant evidence, and straight up break the law.

Here's a group of about 8-10 cops breaking the law by beating up a guy who's on the ground and not even resisting arrest: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TyLfHuPZQQY

Here's a cop with anger issues that would have probably beat up a guy to a pulp if there wasnt witnesses all around: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGSrGmHsT8s (and people like this are allowed to carry guns and control us?) :facepalm
First instance, all 10 cops were suspended and charges are pending. By the way, this wasn't the first time he had been arrested, and had previously shot a puppy at a family outing.

So again, they fvcked up by beating a convicted felon, and are being charged, like you or I would have, so again, not sure what youre bitching about.

You're 0-3 on the 'cops get away with murder' tally.

Keep going.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7EpqS1rZ8c

How about this one?

Oh all the officers were charged there too. You're never going to change your opinion, so not even sure why I am responding to such a close minded individual, but, you're just too easy.

[ATL_Bball_King]

exactly. UK2K is talking as if cops dont do dumb and foul shit like lie, plant evidence, and straight up break the law.

Here's a group of about 8-10 cops breaking the law by beating up a guy who's on the ground and not even resisting arrest: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TyLfHuPZQQY

Here's a cop with anger issues that would have probably beat up a guy to a pulp if there wasnt witnesses all around: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGSrGmHsT8s (and people like this are allowed to carry guns and control us?) :facepalm

i know right, what's the qualifications for being a cop, graduating high school and passing a physical exam...anyone on this board can become a damn cop and treat the position as we see fit, while carrying a gun and have coworkers that will always be on our side no matter if they know its not exactly the right thing...

[UK2K]

i know right, what's the qualifications for being a cop, graduating high school and passing a physical exam...anyone on this board can become a damn cop and treat the position as we see fit, while carrying a gun and have coworkers that will always be on our side no matter if they know its not exactly the right thing...
No, they cant.

After an initial test, then there is a physical fitness test, then there is a polygraph test, then there is a background and credit check, then a psychological evaluation, then you have to pass the training course, usually several months, then a year with a FTO. After that, yeah, you made it.

Out of the 400 people that applied for a position at the Conroe, TX police department, I was one of about 80 who passed the written test. I was one of about 30 who passed the physical test. I was one of maybe 12 who passed the polygraph test, then I decided I didnt want to do it. Wouldn't have passed the background check anyway I dont think (drug charges).

So no, that is a lie. Stop lying to make a point. Speak in facts, it makes it at least appear like you know what you're talking about.

[PistonsFan#21]

And in both instances, the officers were disciplined and charged with aggravated assault (in the first case) or murder (in the second), just like you or I would have, so Im not sure what youre complaining about.

Feel free to act like every cop is a murderer, even though the chances of being murdered by a police officer during a contact is about .000028%.

By all means, knock yourself out.

My complaint was with you claiming that all you have to do is comply with the cops (even when they are in the wrong and breaking the law themselves) and everything would be alright. I just proved to you with the 1st link that it doesnt always work this way. And thats just 1 instance off a quick search on internet. This happens plenty of times with no witnesses and cops are always found not guilty because of lack of evidence.

Whats so hard to understand? :facepalm

Here's another example of how cops f*ck with minorities not knowing they were being recorded: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZrRlqrOHLts

''I arrest you just because i feel like it''. And then when he comes back to the station he can make up a bullshit excuse about smelling weed or wreckless driving.

But no go ahead and keep on claiming that nothing ever goes wrong when you just comply with the police. I can tell right away that you are white. Not everyone is lucky to get the ''white privilege'' treatment though

[UK2K]

My complaint was with you claiming that all you have to do is comply with the cops (even when they are in the wrong and breaking the law themselves) and everything would be alright. I just proved to you with the 1st link that it doesnt always work this way. And thats just 1 instance off a quick search on internet. This happens plenty of times with no witnesses and cops are always found not guilty because of lack of evidence.

Whats so hard to understand? :facepalm

Here's another example of how cops f*ck with minorities not knowing they were being recorded: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZrRlqrOHLts

''I arrest you just because i feel like it''. And then when he comes back to the station he can make up a bullshit excuse about smelling weed or wreckless driving.

But no go ahead and keep on claiming that nothing ever goes wrong when you just comply with the police. I can tell right away that you are white. Not everyone is lucky to get the ''white privilege'' treatment though
I'm Filipino. My mother was an immigrant from Manila.

As for the rest, its not worth responding to.

I will point out that out of 10,000,000 arrests last year, less than 1/100th of 1/1000th percent ended up on YouTube.

Keep acting like its a problem though.

[PistonsFan#21]

First instance, all 10 cops were suspended and charges are pending. By the way, this wasn't the first time he had been arrested, and had previously shot a puppy at a family outing.

So again, they fvcked up by beating a convicted felon, and are being charged, like you or I would have, so again, not sure what youre bitching about.

You're 0-3 on the 'cops get away with murder' tally.

Keep going.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7EpqS1rZ8c

How about this one?

Oh all the officers were charged there too. You're never going to change your opinion, so not even sure why I am responding to such a close minded individual, but, you're just too easy.

:biggums: How are you refuting anything im saying?? My point was to show you that not all cops are good cops who are just out there to serve and protect and that simply complying with them wont always work. If they get charged or not isnt the question. There isnt always a camera around when you encounter them.

[PistonsFan#21]

I'm Filipino. My mother was an immigrant from Manila.

As for the rest, its not worth responding to.

I will point out that out of 10,000,000 arrests last year, less than 1/100th of 1/1000th percent ended up on YouTube.

Keep acting like its a problem though.

Its not worth responding to because you clearly dont know what you are talking about. Its better that you just stay quiet.



That's the thing. Cops don't know who is armed and who isnt. So to avoid getting your ass beat, you simply be polite and comply until the cops are done doing what they're doing. That's it. No back talk. No 'not resisting but still obviously resisting' actions.

Just sit there, shut the fvck up, and then go on your way later. That's it. If everyone did that, nobody would ever have a bad run in with the cops.

Im just quoting what you said and proved that you were wrong. Bad run with the cops happen all the time (sometime they get charged for it, other times theres no cameras and you get f*cked over). Now learn to accept it and move on.

[ATL_Bball_King]

PROTECT AND SERVE... being a black male, growing up in Atlanta, graduating from a good college with a EE degree, i have come in contact with countless of policemen and have not felt one time they were trying to protect and serve me...because i was always the criminal...point blank...this is why i have replied so much about this topic that is not even about basketball anymore on a basketball forum...

[FireDavidKahn]

PROTECT AND SERVE... being a black male, growing up in Atlanta, graduating from a good college with a EE degree, i have come in contact with countless of policemen and have not felt one time they were trying to protect and serve me...because i was always the criminal...point blank...this is why i have replied so much about this topic that is not even about basketball anymore on a basketball forum...
:lol: no bias there:oldlol: :rolleyes:

[UK2K]

Its not worth responding to because you clearly dont know what you are talking about. Its better that you just stay quiet.



Im just quoting what you said and proved that you were wrong. Bad run with the cops happen all the time (sometime they get charged for it, other times theres no cameras and you get f*cked over). Now learn to accept it and move on.
Ok, you win, .000028% of the time there are bad run ins with the cops.

Almost on par with hitting a small lottery.

So yeah, you win.

[PistonsFan#21]

Ok, you win, .000028% of the time there are bad run ins with the cops.

Almost on par with hitting a small lottery.

So yeah, you win.

thank you. admitting your wrong is the 1st step in the right direction. Now you need to work on not making up stats.

:cheers:

[Dr. Ice]

It's hilarious seeing cop apologists trying to defend them when black people criticize them.

Even though their argument could be right there's just no way the apologists are going to convince us when most of us have experienced multiple bad cops and racial profiling before we even hit 25,so why even bother?

[warriorfan]

it's obvious to see uk2k is very biased towards the police side of things since he admitted his dad is a cop and he became so close to being one. I don't buy his hollow "trust me I hate cops more than anyone" statement.

[ILLsmak]

Good luck having anyone sign up to put their life on the line on a daily basis knowing they have to have the criminal make the first move.



That's the point, they aren't a criminal yet or maybe ever. Someone is a criminal when they have broken the law. If they are running away with something they stole, ok, but in situations like this... which tend to happen a bit too much, some publicly intoxicated person is not a criminal.

It's kind of like reasonable doubt. In the majority of these cases, it's not us vs the world. Nobody is 'dangerous.'

If someone is a criminal, then they can arrest them, but a bystander is not a criminal because they don't listen to the cops. I've been in enough situations with cops to know they are *****.

I remember when I was in grade school, we went to see the president speak, and we were all going in and there were secret service people there. Everyone was in line, we walked one by one thru, and I watched the rhythm of people walking in, waited my turn and began to walk. This guy just shoved me back. And I looked at him, waited, and began to walk again, he shoved me back again. No reason at all just because he probably felt children shouldn't look him in the eye.

Those sort of situations can unfold the same way. They tell Thabo... get back. And he gets back. Then it's like GET FURTHER BACK. Except he's not a kid, he's a grown man. And it's like man I'm far enough back. Next thing you know, dudes are piling on top of you and it's like YA SHOULDA LISTENED.

That's bullshit. There's no reason why cops can't be kind. They seem not only into dominating people but way too paranoid. Again, with the criminal thing, there is a time to be paranoid. But with someone at the door, a child, who is going to see the president with his class? It's the same with this.

Obviously 'the cop is right' because they are a cop. And they would have been more right if they didn't break dude's leg. Now that they did, it might seriously be an issue.

-Smak

[UK2K]

thank you. admitting your wrong is the 1st step in the right direction. Now you need to work on not making up stats.

:cheers:
Cop shootings/number of cop interactions per year gives you that .0000028% number or whatever.

Something like 200 out of 10,000,000. So its pretty close.

[L.A.Showtime]

Thabo is on the Hawks, right?

[UK2K]

That's the point, they aren't a criminal yet or maybe ever. Someone is a criminal when they have broken the law. If they are running away with something they stole, ok, but in situations like this... which tend to happen a bit too much, some publicly intoxicated person is not a criminal.

It's kind of like reasonable doubt. In the majority of these cases, it's not us vs the world. Nobody is 'dangerous.'

If someone is a criminal, then they can arrest them, but a bystander is not a criminal because they don't listen to the cops. I've been in enough situations with cops to know they are *****.

I remember when I was in grade school, we went to see the president speak, and we were all going in and there were secret service people there. Everyone was in line, we walked one by one thru, and I watched the rhythm of people walking in, waited my turn and began to walk. This guy just shoved me back. And I looked at him, waited, and began to walk again, he shoved me back again. No reason at all just because he probably felt children shouldn't look him in the eye.

Those sort of situations can unfold the same way. They tell Thabo... get back. And he gets back. Then it's like GET FURTHER BACK. Except he's not a kid, he's a grown man. And it's like man I'm far enough back. Next thing you know, dudes are piling on top of you and it's like YA SHOULDA LISTENED.

That's bullshit. There's no reason why cops can't be kind. They seem not only into dominating people but way too paranoid. Again, with the criminal thing, there is a time to be paranoid. But with someone at the door, a child, who is going to see the president with his class? It's the same with this.

Obviously 'the cop is right' because they are a cop. And they would have been more right if they didn't break dude's leg. Now that they did, it might seriously be an issue.

-Smak
Do you know how easy it is for someone to take a step and unstrap your pistol from your holster?

Takes all of maybe a second.

Like I said, its easy for us to sit back and armchair general everything.. "Oh I would have asked him if he was armed". " Oh I would have pulled out my taser (which sometimes do nothing, I've been tazed dozens of times)". "Oh he should have known he was going for his license".

When I watched that video at the gas station, and the kid turned that fast and reached into his vehicle, the first thing I thought was " he's grabbing a gun" because 99/100, that's how it is. A quick, sudden movement and before you can speak a gun is in your face. You can sprint 6 steps before someone pulls out a gun.

I could post all sorts of videos of cops who thought they were fine and everything was cool, until it wasn't.

Guy beats the shit out of a cop.: https://youtu.be/POn2DcIbUpA

Say he throws one punch and you start to black out. Now he's got your gun, and he's likely going to blow your head off because, he just punched a cop, probably for a reason, so may as well get rid of the pursuit.

These guys deal with these types of people every single day, so for their safety, they stay on high alert to make sure they get home to their families. I would do the same thing. I did it in Afghanistan for 9 months. Man, woman (when they were allowed outside), child, whoever, I was friendly to. I spoke too, I shook hands with, I gave muffins and Gatorade to, but in the back of mind I always knew if someone pulled out an AK, where my sidearm was.

Even in a firefight, you could see people running from building to building. There were explosions, bullets flying so close you could hear the crack as they passed by your head breaking the sound barrier. Men running, some holding rifles for protection, some holding them to shoot at us, and you have to, in a blink of an eye, decide whether you are making the right decision. Some firefights I was in lasted several hours, maybe all afternoon, and you make one wrong decision and kill an innocent person, you're done.

Cops don't deal with that kind of chaos, but they deal with aggressive people every day. People with felony assault charges, battery charges... They don't know who is who. So, if Thabo was a two strike felon on probation and knew he was going to go back to jail for being involved? How hard would it have been to reach and grab a an officers gun while they're dog piled on each other?

Its a simple mistake like that that costs people their lives. I don't like being pulled over, and I like my smoke from time to time, but I understand cops have a job to do, just like any other job. And if they pull me over, I know the next guy they stop may be a violent offender. I don't want to live near that trash. So the more cops the better.

I do think the drug laws and petty laws need to have less stiff punishments. I did shit when I was younger. I broke the law all the time. I did what any teenager and young 20 year old would do, but much worse. That sort of stuff is treated more sternly then it should be.

But I also think serious crimes, like sexual violence and DUI laws, need to be stricter.

The Warriors dude thinks I'm a fan of cops. I'm not. But I get why they do what they do. Just like the IRS enforces our tax laws (everyone hates the IRS), the Game Warden enforces hunting laws (I should be able to fish whenever I want), and the government enforces gun laws (why should I not be allowed to carry a gun in NYC?), cops have a job to do that's a buzz kill to everyone else. But its for a reason.

/Rant

Sorry for the long post

[FireDavidKahn]

It's hilarious seeing cop apologists trying to defend them when black people criticize them.

Even though their argument could be right there's just no way the apologists are going to convince us when most of us have experienced multiple bad cops and racial profiling before we even hit 25,so why even bother?
:facepalm Getting pulled over and the cops taking your weed doesn't make a cop bad and isn't racial profiling.

[FireDavidKahn]

Nobody here even understands that in order for cops to protect and serve the public, they first have to protect themselves. That's why they are so "aggressive" all the time. If people want to stop being treated like criminals, then stop acting like them. Simple as that.

[gts]

/Rant

Sorry for the long post

No need to apologize although your audience is probably too young, too biased or too stupid to comprehend that there are people out there who would love nothing more than to kill a cop or do anything to avoid jail and will do so at the drop of a hat and as such today's police officer is going to be much more assertive in a situation than the nice policeman who came to our 3rd grade classroom

[ILLsmak]

my main point was that you should err on the side of protecting civilians, not yourself. I agree that few would do that, but... that's an issue.

Cops can do what they want, but they need to be punished. They can think however they wanna think and act on their impulses, but the result should not be excused. That's the part where I don't agree with you. They should be held to a very high standard. If they choose to roll the dice and shoot someone because they believe it's a threat on their life, then when it turns out it wasn't, they need to be punished.

Cops are people. I hope they are trying their best, but in the end, they should be held to a higher standard. If they were and weren't excused for their actions in these cases, they would behave less like assholes.

There is a time for aggressive solutions, but not always. You said they go thru such rigorous testing, well they need to get some cops with diplomacy and common sense. Not dudes acting like this is ****ing 'nam or Afghanistan when they pull someone over.

Edit:


Nobody here even understands that in order for cops to protect and serve the public, they first have to protect themselves. That's why they are so "aggressive" all the time. If people want to stop being treated like criminals, then stop acting like them. Simple as that.


Was waiting for this. That's not true at all. The first part is bullshit. It sounds logical, but it's not. That means they are protecting and serving themselves. If they think of their safety first, they are a bad cop period. You can't serve when you are thinking of yourself and it's arguable if you can protect.

Second part, again, people who the cops encounter are not all criminals. Someone who disagrees with a cop is not a criminal. Nobody in their right mind is arguing with the rough handling of a situation that involves a criminal.

If these dudes are on the point of cracking due to their tough job, they need to step aside, because that will lead to bad decisions. It's like PTSD. It might be excused that a guy with PTSD or schizophrenia shoots their neighbor because they thought they were the devil or an enemy paratrooper, but people who can't assess a situation and gain control using the least force possible shouldn't be cops. Again, a higher standard.

-Smak

[BigMacAttack]

:biggums: How are you refuting anything im saying?? My point was to show you that not all cops are good cops who are just out there to serve and protect and that simply complying with them wont always work. If they get charged or not isnt the question. There isnt always a camera around when you encounter them.

Been reading this thread for a while, you are the biggest retard.

[FireDavidKahn]

Black guy speaks the truth
http://www.wistv.com/story/28772115/mans-candid-honest-video-about-race-and-traffic-stops-is-going-viral?clienttype=generic

[FireDavidKahn]

Was waiting for this. That's not true at all. The first part is bullshit. It sounds logical, but it's not. That means they are protecting and serving themselves. If they think of their safety first, they are a bad cop period. You can't serve when you are thinking of yourself and it's arguable if you can protect.

Second part, again, people who the cops encounter are not all criminals. Someone who disagrees with a cop is not a criminal. Nobody in their right mind is arguing with the rough handling of a situation that involves a criminal.

If these dudes are on the point of cracking due to their tough job, they need to step aside, because that will lead to bad decisions. It's like PTSD. It might be excused that a guy with PTSD or schizophrenia shoots their neighbor because they thought they were the devil or an enemy paratrooper, but people who can't assess a situation and gain control using the least force possible shouldn't be cops. Again, a higher standard.

-Smak
If a cop doesn't protect themselves first, then they have nobody to ****ing serve because they are either dead or in a hospital:facepalm

[gts]

my main point was that you should err on the side of protecting civilians, not yourself. I agree that few would do that, but... that's an issue.

Cops can do what they want, but they need to be punished. They can think however they wanna think and act on their impulses, but the result should not be excused. That's the part where I don't agree with you. They should be held to a very high standard. If they choose to roll the dice and shoot someone because they believe it's a threat on their life, then when it turns out it wasn't, they need to be punished.

Cops are people. I hope they are trying their best, but in the end, they should be held to a higher standard. If they were and weren't excused for their actions in these cases, they would behave less like assholes.

There is a time for aggressive solutions, but not always. You said they go thru such rigorous testing, well they need to get some cops with diplomacy and common sense. Not dudes acting like this is ****ing 'nam or Afghanistan when they pull someone over.

Edit:




Was waiting for this. That's not true at all. The first part is bullshit. It sounds logical, but it's not. That means they are protecting and serving themselves. If they think of their safety first, they are a bad cop period. You can't serve when you are thinking of yourself and it's arguable if you can protect.

Second part, again, people who the cops encounter are not all criminals. Someone who disagrees with a cop is not a criminal. Nobody in their right mind is arguing with the rough handling of a situation that involves a criminal.

If these dudes are on the point of cracking due to their tough job, they need to step aside, because that will lead to bad decisions. It's like PTSD. It might be excused that a guy with PTSD or schizophrenia shoots their neighbor because they thought they were the devil or an enemy paratrooper, but people who can't assess a situation and gain control using the least force possible shouldn't be cops. Again, a higher standard.

-Smak

the stupid in this post/thought is sad....

[ILLsmak]

If a cop doesn't protect themselves first, then they have nobody to ****ing serve because they are either dead or in a hospital:facepalm

yea, but cops should be more replaceable than the citizens they protect. If someone goes in on the president, you better believe someone is gonna throw their body in the way. That's protecting.

Or what about if a soldier thought of protecting themselves before anything else?

Now, if it's some dictator state that is supposed to maintain order regardless, then I can understand your POV, but is that what the US is?

But it's w/e, as we see, people either aren't understanding or are just being hard headed.

-Smak

[FireDavidKahn]

yea, but cops should be more replaceable than the citizens they protect. If someone goes in on the president, you better believe someone is gonna throw their body in the way. That's protecting.

Or what about if a soldier thought of protecting themselves before anything else?

Now, if it's some dictator state that is supposed to maintain order regardless, then I can understand your POV, but is that what the US is?

But it's w/e, as we see, people either aren't understanding or are just being hard headed.

-Smak
Soldiers do protect themselves. You don't see them running in and shooting guns a blazing. That's why new technology was developed where 80% of the ground war has been taken away.

And if the people protecting the President are doing their job, by being EXTREMELY PROACTIVE AND SCREENING EVERY POTENTIAL SUSPICIOUS CHARACTER, a bullet will never come close.

Cops are more replaceable?:oldlol: So now you are saying cops lives are worth less than civilians?

[UK2K]

my main point was that you should err on the side of protecting civilians, not yourself. I agree that few would do that, but... that's an issue.

Cops can do what they want, but they need to be punished. They can think however they wanna think and act on their impulses, but the result should not be excused. That's the part where I don't agree with you. They should be held to a very high standard. If they choose to roll the dice and shoot someone because they believe it's a threat on their life, then when it turns out it wasn't, they need to be punished.

Cops are people. I hope they are trying their best, but in the end, they should be held to a higher standard. If they were and weren't excused for their actions in these cases, they would behave less like assholes.

There is a time for aggressive solutions, but not always. You said they go thru such rigorous testing, well they need to get some cops with diplomacy and common sense. Not dudes acting like this is ****ing 'nam or Afghanistan when they pull someone over.

Edit:




Was waiting for this. That's not true at all. The first part is bullshit. It sounds logical, but it's not. That means they are protecting and serving themselves. If they think of their safety first, they are a bad cop period. You can't serve when you are thinking of yourself and it's arguable if you can protect.

Second part, again, people who the cops encounter are not all criminals. Someone who disagrees with a cop is not a criminal. Nobody in their right mind is arguing with the rough handling of a situation that involves a criminal.

If these dudes are on the point of cracking due to their tough job, they need to step aside, because that will lead to bad decisions. It's like PTSD. It might be excused that a guy with PTSD or schizophrenia shoots their neighbor because they thought they were the devil or an enemy paratrooper, but people who can't assess a situation and gain control using the least force possible shouldn't be cops. Again, a higher standard.

-Smak
The first part I agree with

The second part, I don't.

Because if there is a reasonable suspicion to down a suspect, I think its okay. Was the suspect a 2 time felon? Did he have a violent history? These things you have to consider because someone likely charged with a violent crime is more likely to resist going back to jail.

People make mistakes. Victims get settlements out of it if they live. But in all honesty, when you shoot a suspect, an officer has to prove a certain state of mind, and if they can do that, I think its justified.

The video in South Carolina, that was extreme. Technically he was allowed to shoot him if he thought his escape could lead to the harm of others, but the guy wasn't running all that fast. That wasn't a mistake, that was murder, and I'm glad he was charged accordingly.

I agree with your third paragraph. Cops are assholes. Because they deal with assholes every day. As an officer, you want to be stern. You know what people look for when they decide they want to resist? A dirty uniform, an overweight cop, a timid cop, someone that isn't sharp. If you walk up to a vehicle, professional, with a sense of authority, that itself deters hostile action.

As for your fourth paragraph, I disagree. Like I said, complacency kills. They do as their trained, because thats what keeps you alive. It works. Cops on the street, in the corrections facilities, on the border, in the military. When you get soft, you get killed. That's the reality of it.

[Dr. Ice]

:facepalm Getting pulled over and the cops taking your weed doesn't make a cop bad and isn't racial profiling.
You can't seriously think that was what i was talking about, do you?

*Reads other posts*

Oh wow...I guess you are serious. :facepalm

[Lensanity]

People become pigs because they get a strong sense of satisfaction when they ruin a life of a stranger. People that don't feel this way don't become pigs. That's why pigs are the worst cult in the world.

[FireDavidKahn]

People become pigs because they get a strong sense of satisfaction when they ruin a life of a stranger. People that don't feel this way don't become pigs. That's why pigs are the worst cult in the world.
Then go to a 3rd world country, where there are no police. We will welcome you back with your tail tucked between your legs.

[FireDavidKahn]

You can't seriously think that was what i was talking about, do you?

*Reads other posts*

Oh wow...I guess you are serious. :facepalm
No objectivity in this one.:oldlol:

[KevinNYC]

it's obvious to see uk2k is very biased towards the police side of things since he admitted his dad is a cop and he became so close to being one. I don't buy his hollow "trust me I hate cops more than anyone" statement.

I think the kneejerk reaction on ISH is an anti-cop bias regardless of facts or cicumstances.

[Hittin_Shots]

Muricans

[Chrono90]

Thabo was drunk out of his mind and acted disorderly. Police had to put him in cuffs. He resisted. More man power needed. Next level of force used which is baton. Simple as that.

If any of you think some cops were driving and decided to just beat someone up and be investigated by the Internal Affairs for it because they like beating people up for no reason in a place full of cameras, you're a moron and it's useless explaining anything to you.

[Chrono90]

With internet nowadays, bias media that only want views and money could brain wash these newer younger generations.

This will be one factor in the downfall of America.

[Chrono90]

Watch the video guys. Sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo conveniently the clip only starts when cops started arrested him but not what Thabo actually did before that.

Please everyone, specially kids, there's more than one side to every story. Nowadays not everything you see in the internet is true and fair.

[stanlove1111]

Here is what we have on this thread.

A lot of blind cop bashing by people who just like to go around bashing cops. I have no respect for that unless of course you have a solution. In this thread when it finally dawned on some cop bashers that police procedures are in effect because police are trained to do that, and they are trained to do that because cops get killed when they don't follow their procedures. ITs obvious all of these breakroom loudmouths have never even considered that before, which is amazing.

But at least now they have decided to give their solution to the problem. Get huge big strong cops to have wrestling matches with anyone who wants to resist, and if a lot of cops die because of this then oh well their shit out of luck, at least people who resist police won't get hurt or killed.

Its actually pretty funny stuff..

[oarabbus]

If you don't want trouble with the cops and you are a minority you need to pander to them. You may not like it but it's true, feeding their ego is the right move.


If you get pulled over everything has got to be "no sir" "yes sir" "my apologies officer" etc. If you are the least bit disrespectful they will make the stop as miserable as they can.

[mehyaM24]

If you don't want trouble with the cops and you are a minority you need to pander to them. You may not like it but it's true, feeding their ego is the right move.


If you get pulled over everything has got to be "no sir" "yes sir" "my apologies officer" etc. If you are the least bit disrespectful they will make the stop as miserable as they can.
that goes for everyone, not just "minorities". cops are dickheads with insane egos (not all, but many).

being chummy, cooperating & letting them do their job is the best choice for both parties.

[sd3035]

http://www.ducati.org/forums/attachments/australia/64365d1349252697-bears-racing-rd-5-pi-1-2-dec-cartman.jpg

[ShawkFactory]

Then go to a 3rd world country, where there are no police. We will welcome you back with your tail tucked between your legs.
I wouldn't

[ralph_i_el]

If you don't want trouble with the cops and you are a minority you need to pander to them. You may not like it but it's true, feeding their ego is the right move.


If you get pulled over everything has got to be "no sir" "yes sir" "my apologies officer" etc. If you are the least bit disrespectful they will make the stop as miserable as they can.

I'm white and this is how I was taught to talk to cops as a kid. Cop pulled me over for "cutting him off" even when I didn't. I could tell he was having a shit day, so I just let him scold me, apologized, and there was no problem.

[oarabbus]

I'm white and this is how I was taught to talk to cops as a kid. Cop pulled me over for "cutting him off" even when I didn't. I could tell he was having a shit day, so I just let him scold me, apologized, and there was no problem.

True but as a white person you can generally get away with being a bit less respectful in comparison.

[ralph_i_el]

True but as a white person you can generally get away with being a bit less respectful in comparison.
True true

[stanlove1111]

True but as a white person you can generally get away with being a bit less respectful in comparison.

Can you show me your research on that?

[Dr. Ice]

Can you show me your research on that?
Boy would i love to live in your kind of world

[warriorfan]

Can you show me your research on that?


you are crazy

[stanlove1111]

Boy would i love to live in your kind of world


So just your opinion. Or maybe blacks have more trouble ith cops because so many blacks are disrepectful when dealing with cops.

[mehyaM24]

you clowns need to stop with the victim mentality. its really ****ing old.

[oarabbus]

Can you show me your research on that?


No I can't show you my research I'm not a criminal researcher :wtf:

And if I state any personal experiences you will say they are invalid, inaccurate, or I am lying, I know your game.

I can show you other people's research, though.


http://spokane.wsu.edu/admissions/Criminal-Justice/faculty-staff/Racial&EthnicBiasDFJDMStrongerLens_ExperimentalCriminolog y_JamesKlingerVila2014.pdf

http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2014/10/10/black_teenager_police_shooting_rate_21_times_highe r_than_same_rate_for_whites.html

http://www.theroot.com/articles/culture/2014/10/young_black_men_21_times_more_likely_to_be_shot_de ad_by_police_than_whites.html

http://cad.sagepub.com/content/45/4/494.short

http://www.jstor.org/discover/10.2307/2095676?uid=2&uid=4&sid=21106448411043

http://www.vox.com/2014/8/21/6051043/how-many-people-killed-police-statistics-homicide-official-black

[ATL_Bball_King]

I Just got pulled over by two white cops right in front of my job...They wouldnt tell me why they pulled me over until they got my license and information... After they could find nothing on me they just gave me a ticket for my tented windows...

Racial Profiling at its finest...I have video of them lookin all through out my car trying to find another reason to try and find something else...

**** THE POLICE!!!

[ralph_i_el]

I Just got pulled over by two white cops right in front of my job...They wouldnt tell me why they pulled me over until they got my license and information... After they could find nothing on me they just gave me a ticket for my tented windows...

Racial Profiling at its finest...I have video of them lookin all through out my car trying to find another reason to try and find something else...

**** THE POLICE!!!
Why do you have illegally tinted windows?

[NumberSix]

So just your opinion. Or maybe blacks have more trouble ith cops because so many blacks are disrepectful when dealing with cops.
Whites and Asians (in general) do get more leeway from police than blacks. Let's not pretend that that isn't true. All things being exactly equal, police will generally view the black person as being a higher possibility of threat than whites or Asians.

[sd3035]

I Just got pulled over by two white cops right in front of my job...They wouldnt tell me why they pulled me over until they got my license and information... After they could find nothing on me they just gave me a ticket for my tented windows...

Racial Profiling at its finest...I have video of them lookin all through out my car trying to find another reason to try and find something else...

**** THE POLICE!!!

It's not just because you were black...see this guy

http://bbsimg.ngfiles.com/1/5912000/ngbbs42e688a14aee4.jpg

[stanlove1111]

I Just got pulled over by two white cops right in front of my job...They wouldnt tell me why they pulled me over until they got my license and information... After they could find nothing on me they just gave me a ticket for my tented windows...

Racial Profiling at its finest...I have video of them lookin all through out my car trying to find another reason to try and find something else...

**** THE POLICE!!!

So you have tinted windows? Gee I wonder why you were pulled over.

One thing I have learned is the great majority of black people can not look at race things logically.

Everytime anything happens to a black person they claim its because they are black, but the same things happen to white people.

Last year I was pulled over for turning around in a gas station after it was closed. The cop told me that there had been some break ins there. He checked my liscence and looked everything up. Took 15 minutes. If I was black I would be telling everyone its a fact that I was pulled over because I was black.

[stanlove1111]

Whites and Asians (in general) do get more leeway from police than blacks. Let's not pretend that that isn't true. All things being exactly equal, police will generally view the black person as being a higher possibility of threat than whites or Asians.


OF course a cop will view a black person as being a higher possibility of a threat, because we all know the percentage of black thugs is out of this world compared to any other race. Everyone considers a black more dangerous. I brought that up long ago. Its the way it is and always will be unless blacks do something about their culture. You said good blacks don't need to do anything. If they don't nothing will ever change.

But none of this shows me that cops will put up from disrespect from whites more then they will from blacks. This was the point.

[ATL_Bball_King]

Why do you have illegally tinted windows?


There not illegally tented...They were on the car when i bought the car...they didnt even put the scanner to my windows...Like i said, it took him about 40 mins to finally say what he had pulled me over for...after the search through the car and everything...

Im in Peachtree city ga and just go profiled by two white ass cops...IF YOU ARE A WHITE PERSON ON THIS FORUM PLEASE DONT ACT LIKE YOU KNOW HOW IT FEELS... I have gotten pulled over numerous of times for this..

They think i wont go to court for this and just pay the fine...I will go to court and win because there are not illegally tented...Just another day being a black guy being pulled over by the MAN

[ATL_Bball_King]

So you have tinted windows? Gee I wonder why you were pulled over.

One thing I have learned is the great majority of black people can not look at race things logically.

Everytime anything happens to a black person they claim its because they are black, but the same things happen to white people.

Last year I was pulled over for turning around in a gas station after it was closed. The cop told me that there had been some break ins there. He checked my liscence and looked everything up. Took 15 minutes. If I was black I would be telling everyone its a fact that I was pulled over because I was black.


I have been pulled over about 7 times last year...You dont live in GA where these ****ers are more racist and profile the shit out of you... and my windows are not illegally tented...after he could find nothing on my licencse and nothing in my car he just magically said tented windows...Yea theres no profiling there...

You sure do stick up for every single damn cop in the US i see

[PistonsFan#21]

So you have tinted windows? Gee I wonder why you were pulled over.

One thing I have learned is the great majority of black people can not look at race things logically.

Everytime anything happens to a black person they claim its because they are black, but the same things happen to white people.

Last year I was pulled over for turning around in a gas station after it was closed. The cop told me that there had been some break ins there. He checked my liscence and looked everything up. Took 15 minutes. If I was black I would be telling everyone its a fact that I was pulled over because I was black.

lets be real...stuff like this happens to black people at a way higher rate than white people: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZrRlqrOHLts

as teenagers / young adults, this will tarnish the way they view the police, just the same way racist people see all black people as thugs.

Who is to blame here? No side is mistake free but as a law enforcement carrying a gun and with all that power you have higher expectations than the average citizen.

[stanlove1111]

I have been pulled over about 7 times last year...You dont live in GA where these ****ers are more racist and profile the shit out of you... and my windows are not illegally tented...after he could find nothing on my licencse and nothing in my car he just magically said tented windows...Yea theres no profiling there...

You sure do stick up for every single damn cop in the US i see

I don't believe you for one second, Nobody will.

Here is the problem. There have been so many claims by so many blacks that have turned out to be false that nobody believes what a black person says about race anymore. Telling you the truth.

I said it at the time, the people rioting and attacking the cop in Ferguson because a cop shot a 300 pound guy who was attacking him, and the amount of blacks who defended the 300 pounder, is another reason why America as a whole does not believe and doesn't want to hear anymore from blacks about this stuff.

Because of things like Ferguson people see again that blacks can not be rational about race issues. The way it is. You can stank the huge percentage of blacks who cause trouble and act like they are victims when they are not, for the fact that people don't and won't care until the black community cleans up its act. Just stating the facts.

[PistonsFan#21]

I don't believe you for one second, Nobody will.

Here is the problem. There have been so many claims by so many blacks that have turned out to be false that nobody believes what a black person says about race anymore. Telling you the truth.

I said it at the time, the people rioting and attacking the cop in Ferguson because a cop shot a 300 pound guy who was attacking him, and the amount of blacks who defended the 300 pounder, is another reason why America as a whole does not believe and doesn't want to hear anymore from blacks about this stuff.

Because of things like Ferguson people see again that blacks can not be rational about race issues. The way it is. You can stank the huge percentage of blacks who cause trouble and act like they are victims when they are not, for the fact that people don't and won't care until the black community cleans up its act. Just stating the facts.

Have you ever wondered why a big percentage of the black community doesnt like / feel safe around the cops though? The problem goes back to the segregation days when police were legally biased against the minorities. There was never a good trust relationship between them and the ''law enforcers'' and this hatred feeling was passed on from generation to generation.

Now some people wanna act like black community is the sole reason for rioting and getting in troubles with the law at a higher rate than white folks.

[Hittin_Shots]

Wtf are tented windows? They goin camping?

[robert de niro]

True but as a white person you can generally get away with being a bit less respectful in comparison.
why would you want to be "a bit less respectful" anyway?

[UK2K]

There not illegally tented...They were on the car when i bought the car...they didnt even put the scanner to my windows...Like i said, it took him about 40 mins to finally say what he had pulled me over for...after the search through the car and everything...

Im in Peachtree city ga and just go profiled by two white ass cops...IF YOU ARE A WHITE PERSON ON THIS FORUM PLEASE DONT ACT LIKE YOU KNOW HOW IT FEELS... I have gotten pulled over numerous of times for this..

They think i wont go to court for this and just pay the fine...I will go to court and win because there are not illegally tented...Just another day being a black guy being pulled over by the MAN
Guarantee I've been pulled over more than you have. My tint IS illegal here in Indiana, but not in Texas where my car is registered.

Like I said, I get pulled over at least a half dozen times a year, maybe more.

Ha. Anytime you start out a statement with 'if you're white person', you are about to make an ass of yourself. And you did. Since Jews are and have been the most persecuted group on the planet, I think they do know how it feels.

Get your ignorant racist ass out of here.

[ILLsmak]

Whites and Asians (in general) do get more leeway from police than blacks. Let's not pretend that that isn't true. All things being exactly equal, police will generally view the black person as being a higher possibility of threat than whites or Asians.

i imagine I kind of appear like a terrorist. I'm none of the above and I have my own problems. Esp when my hair would be longer. Wasn't even fun to be in airports then.

But it's true that how you interact with a cop is very important. A cop comes in and he's like staring at you. He wants you to be like looking down and apologetic, if you don't look down, even if you are mostly polite, you will get a ticket. It happens to me frequently. I don't get pulled over very much, but when I do... if there is any way I can get one, I do.

I imagine black people are more combative to cops. Because they probably feel as though the cop is profiling them, so instead of looking down like yes sir I'm sorry, they are more like whatever, and cops hate that shit.

Like the dude who pulled me over for going 5 mph over the speed limit. He was like U know how fast u were going? And I was like uh... 70? And he stammered because he knew he was being a dick wad. I would rather expose that these dudes are being dick wad and take a few tickets.

But I listen. I got out of the car once (forgot why) when I was young and he was like GET BACK IN THE CAR. And it's like oh ok. haha. At that point, I can see, but there is an actual ego battle with cops, and if you don't submit instantly to their 'alpha male ego' you will get in as much trouble as possible.

-Smak

[ATL_Bball_King]

OF course a cop will view a black person as being a higher possibility of a threat, because we all know the percentage of black thugs is out of this world compared to any other race. Everyone considers a black more dangerous. I brought that up long ago. Its the way it is and always will be unless blacks do something about their culture. You said good blacks don't need to do anything. If they don't nothing will ever change.

But none of this shows me that cops will put up from disrespect from whites more then they will from blacks. This was the point.


You have to be kidding me right????

The mafia, so many latino and white gangs...White drug lords...Do you really think the 13% of black people living in this country rules the crime world...Those thugs and drug dealers get there drugs from higher up personel...Which is unlikely to be black...

And the only reason black people have a bad reputation in this society is because of the media bringing black people down...Just because there is no more slavery doesnt mean white people dont want to keep us down any way they can...

Do you know who really runs this country and this world...If you think its the puppet master obama then you are severly mistaken... Obama has like 14million dollars while there are people with billions and billions... Money rules the world sunny, and white people rule money...you do the math

[ATL_Bball_King]

I don't believe you for one second, Nobody will.

Here is the problem. There have been so many claims by so many blacks that have turned out to be false that nobody believes what a black person says about race anymore. Telling you the truth.

I said it at the time, the people rioting and attacking the cop in Ferguson because a cop shot a 300 pound guy who was attacking him, and the amount of blacks who defended the 300 pounder, is another reason why America as a whole does not believe and doesn't want to hear anymore from blacks about this stuff.

Because of things like Ferguson people see again that blacks can not be rational about race issues. The way it is. You can stank the huge percentage of blacks who cause trouble and act like they are victims when they are not, for the fact that people don't and won't care until the black community cleans up its act. Just stating the facts.

Keep dreamin while your white race keeps stealing money from your banks and keepin us all in the 1%...Who do you think runs the world?? Blacks????:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

Most of us are still in the 1% anyway...So i guess we are all in this together :cheers:

[stanlove1111]

You have to be kidding me right????

The mafia, so many latino and white gangs...White drug lords...Do you really think the 13% of black people living in this country rules the crime world...Those thugs and drug dealers get there drugs from higher up personel...Which is unlikely to be black...

And the only reason black people have a bad reputation in this society is because of the media bringing black people down...Just because there is no more slavery doesnt mean white people dont want to keep us down any way they can...

Do you know who really runs this country and this world...If you think its the puppet master obama then you are severly mistaken... Obama has like 14million dollars while there are people with billions and billions... Money rules the world sunny, and white people rule money...you do the math

I don't know if its possible to have a post with more BS then this.

See here we go again, another one that tries to deny the shape of the black culture today. Willing to make a few irrational stupid arguments to deny the obvious. Round and round we go.

[stanlove1111]

Keep dreamin while your white race keeps stealing money from your banks and keepin us all in the 1%...Who do you think runs the world?? Blacks????:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

Most of us are still in the 1% anyway...So i guess we are all in this together :cheers:

And another one. Taught to ignore the real problem which is black culture and comes up with all of this other BS.

Round and round we go.

[ATL_Bball_King]

And another one. Taught to ignore the real problem which is black culture and comes up with all of this other BS.

Round and round we go.


Black culture, you meaning soul food?? Other than that what black culture do you speak of??

Saying black culture and talking about thugs is like me saying white culture and talking about trailer park trash...Meth labs...and all that good stuff...You pin pointing one thing negative and saying that its black culture is kinda racist...How can you even speak on the subject if never lived in a black neighborhood...Which i have all my life and its pretty nice in my eyes...


Im surprised this is still on the first page...Soooo off topic at this point...

But please dont say black culture if you have no idea about it...Unless all you getting this from is the media or music industry that likes to portray the images you speak of...

[UK2K]

And around we go.

[sd3035]

Keep dreamin while your white race keeps stealing money from your banks and keepin us all in the 1%...Who do you think runs the world?? Blacks????:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

Most of us are still in the 1% anyway...So i guess we are all in this together :cheers:

lots of rich folks on this board? :confusedshrug:

[oarabbus]

why would you want to be "a bit less respectful" anyway?


I don't know, I'm always respectful to the cops. The point is white people and "model minorities" can mouth off a bit more without repercussions to police.

[BasedTom]

rihanna is ugly as shit, OP

[SugarHill]

Open and shut case Johnson. Just sprinkle some crack on 'em.
:roll: :roll:

[Thunderfan86]

Unarmed Tulsa man killed after alleged accidental shot "Fvck your breath"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6CJpCGKjlCU



Here's the news story: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MtdvrPEj0L4

[ATL_Bball_King]

Guarantee I've been pulled over more than you have. My tint IS illegal here in Indiana, but not in Texas where my car is registered.

Like I said, I get pulled over at least a half dozen times a year, maybe more.

Ha. Anytime you start out a statement with 'if you're white person', you are about to make an ass of yourself. And you did. Since Jews are and have been the most persecuted group on the planet, I think they do know how it feels.

Get your ignorant racist ass out of here.


Far from racist... I love all nationalities... Just dont like cops...You i would call brother though

[ATL_Bball_King]

Unarmed Tulsa man killed after alleged accidental shot "Fvck your breath"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6CJpCGKjlCU



Here's the news story: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MtdvrPEj0L4


Wow...

[robert de niro]

http://i.imgur.com/c4wA5w9.jpg

[ralph_i_el]

Keep dreamin while your white race keeps stealing money from your banks and keepin us all in the 1%...Who do you think runs the world?? Blacks????:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

Most of us are still in the 1% anyway...So i guess we are all in this together :cheers:

The "1%" are rich folks dummy. Aka "Wealthiest 1%"


I don't know, I'm always respectful to the cops. The point is white people and "model minorities" can mouth off a bit more without repercussions to police.

^True.

One time I was hosting a house party with my roomates, and the cops busted us for being too loud. When someone said they saw cops, I went to my room and finished smoking all my weed (my drunk brain thought it was a good idea). Then I walked out of my room, eye's red as the devil, and yelled to the crowd "Anyone who wants to hide from the cops, come to my room".....not noticing the cop standing in my living room. The dude looked me straight in the face and just said "Shut the **** up"....I went back into my room like nothing happened, they kicked out all the under 21's and we were straight :roll: if I was black I'd assume I'd have gotten in trouble. On the flip side, black cops in richmond arrested my buddy for having half an O of bud when they broke up his house party.

[Lensanity]

Lol. Now the NYP(ig)D is doing an "internal investigation." This means they will wait about a week and then say that the pigs did nothing wrong which makes themselves look good. ****ing joke. What a disgusting profession.

[3peated]

i don't think it's relevant that they're white. i just think the police academy is a joke, and isn't trying to find people who want to protect the community, just ignorant people like this who want to be in control.

[NumberSix]

Have you ever wondered why a big percentage of the black community doesnt like / feel safe around the cops though?
Have you ever wondered why a big percentage of the white community doesn't like / feel safe around blacks though?

http://media.giphy.com/media/ToMjGpQnlnbsZny24iA/giphy.gif





You see what I did there?

Yes, some black get victimized by police. Some whites get victimized by blacks. It's weird to take it to the level of telling your kids to "watch out for the police" or "watch out for the blacks".

[La Frescobaldi]

at the beginning of the video, who is the guy laying on the ground in the white sweats and maybe a black stocking cap

[PistonsFan#21]

Have you ever wondered why a big percentage of the white community doesn't like / feel safe around blacks though?

http://media.giphy.com/media/ToMjGpQnlnbsZny24iA/giphy.gif





You see what I did there?

Yes, some black get victimized by police. Some whites get victimized by blacks. It's weird to take it to the level of telling your kids to "watch out for the police" or "watch out for the blacks".

bro i see what you did but you're not saying anything new here. I said the exact same thing worded differently just on the previous page:


lets be real...stuff like this happens to black people at a way higher rate than white people: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZrRlqrOHLts

as teenagers / young adults, this will tarnish the way they view the police, just the same way racist people see all black people as thugs.

Who is to blame here? No side is mistake free but as a law enforcement carrying a gun and with all that power you have higher expectations than the average citizen.