How many people from your NBA top 10 lacked killer instinct in tha finals?

[Real14]

Please elaborate with us.

[nba_55]

You are 2stupid & 2dumb :djparty

[G0ATbe]

1. Kobe Bryant
2. Kareem
3. Magic
4. O'neal
5. Bird
6. Wilt
7. Duncan
8. Russell
9. Hakeem Olajuwon
10. Moses Malone

Shaq,Wilt.

[Real14]

You are 2stupid & 2dumb :djparty
You can't answer the question?:confusedshrug:

[Real14]

1. Kobe Bryant
2. Kareem
3. Magic
4. O'neal
5. Bird
6. Wilt
7. Duncan
8. Russell
9. Hakeem Olajuwon
10. Moses Malone

Shaq,Wilt.

Why Shaq?:lol

[nba_55]

You can't answer the question?:confusedshrug:

You are 2stupid & 2retarded:djparty

[Real14]

You are 2stupid & 2retarded:djparty
This guy already mad and I didn't mentioned one name:oldlol:

[nba_55]

This guy already mad and I didn't mentioned one name:oldlol:
:yaohappy: :party: :party:

[Smook A.]

OP obviously started this thread so he could see LeBron's name get mentioned :oldlol:

[Real14]

OP obviously started this thread so he could see LeBron's name get mentioned :oldlol:
Nah man its just a serious question. Goatbe named his two and I respect that(well maybe except for tha shaq part:lol ).

[Maga_1]

I'm waiting for someone to say:

"I can't recall any NY Knicks players lacking that, because there isn't anyone in the Top10"

or

"NYK goes to the finals 2 times every 30 years, so there isn't a lot of room to lack killer instinct in the finals"

[Legends66NBA7]

Would be nice to see the OP's list or even how killer instinct is defined.

That's always a start.

[Smook A.]

Nah man its just a serious question. Goatbe named his two and I respect that(well maybe except for tha shaq part:lol ).
Who do you have? I wanna see your list. I got Wilt

[Real14]

Would be nice to see the OP's list or even how killer instinct is defined.

That's always a start.

Don't play me bruh, of course I know what killer instinct is. That playin me shit, callin me dumb shit is played out man:coleman:

[Legends66NBA7]

Don't play me bruh, of course I know what killer instinct is. That playin me shit, callin me dumb shit is played out man:coleman:

I called you to explain yourself and post a list.

[Hamtaro CP3KDKG]

KAJ
MJ
Russell
Shaq
Bird
Hakeem
Kobe
Magic
KG
Duncan

none of em when healthy

[Real14]

I called you to explain yourself and post a list.
I will give a list later but I'm talking about a top 10 player who's afraid of the moment or chokes at the main moments of the game. Someone who puts up nice stats but don't try his best or dont aggresively will his way for his team to victory. Shit like that.

[Real14]

Who do you have? I wanna see your list. I got Wilt

In no order...

Mj
Kareem
Wilt
Kobe
Bird
Magic
Isiah
Frazier/Iverson
Shaq
Russell

So far I say kind of Wilt and a big maybe to Shaq cuz it seemed to me like Kobe was more aggresive in 04 finals.

[RRR3]

What you fail to realize here, OP, is that if people give you your desired answer (LeBron), that still indicates LeBron is a top 10 player of all time in their opinion and seemingly yours, as you are clearly baiting here. By limiting your list to "top 10" ever, you are inadvertently praising LeBron, which was obviously not your intent.


Furthermore, you call yourself a Knicks fan and you don't even know how to spell the last of name of your team's legendary PG? It's "FraZier", we're not talking about the TV show, you ignoramus. If you think Iverson and Frazier are top 10 all time, more power to you, but I doubt anyone will take you seriously. Although, you are already a joke, so this really shouldn't make a difference.





TLDR: You're an idiot and "Tha Knickz" are an embarrassment.

[Cocaine80s]

Op just confirmed Lebron is top 10 all time at age 30 :applause:

[dubeta]

Op just confirmed Lebron is top 10 all time at age 30 :applause:

LeBron was top 10 all time at 28

1 more ring and lebron is top 4-5 at 30 :applause:

[warriorfan]

41,000 minutes

[NZStreetBaller]

1. Kobe Bryant
2. Kareem
3. Magic
4. O'neal
5. Bird
6. Wilt
7. Duncan
8. Russell
9. Hakeem Olajuwon
10. Moses Malone

Shaq,Wilt.

why is michael jordan not there??

[dubeta]

why is michael jordan not there??

Same reason Kobe IS there

[Real14]

What you fail to realize here, OP, is that if people give you your desired answer (LeBron), that still indicates LeBron is a top 10 player of all time in their opinion and seemingly yours, as you are clearly baiting here. By limiting your list to "top 10" ever, you are inadvertently praising LeBron, which was obviously not your intent.


Furthermore, you call yourself a Knicks fan and you don't even know how to spell the last of name of your team's legendary PG? It's "FraZier", we're not talking about the TV show, you ignoramus. If you think Iverson and Frazier are top 10 all time, more power to you, but I doubt anyone will take you seriously. Although, you are already a joke, so this really shouldn't make a difference.



TLDR: You're an idiot and "Tha Knickz" are an embarrassment.

Rent free ass niguh over here:oldlol: . I had a typo on the word frazier, I was in a hurry and accidently spelled his name wrong. Its a mistake bruh , get over it. You just mad that I caught your dumb ass weeks ago on a worse typo than minez:lol. Frazier and Iverson deserves be top 10 man. What they did for the league was truly awesome.

[LAZERUSS]

Not sur what your definition of "killer instinct" is...but in terms of just plain butchering his play in the Finals...that's easy...

look no further than Kobe...


99-00
Regular season 22.5 ppg .468 FG%
Finals 15.6 ppg .367 FG%
Last Game of Series .296 FG%

00-01
Regular season 28.5 ppg .464 FG%
Finals 24.6 ppg .415 FG%
Last Game of Series .389 FG%

01-02
Regular season 25.2 ppg .469
Finals 26.8 ppg .514 FG%
Last Game of Series .438 FG%

03-04
Regular season 24.0 ppg .438 FG%
Finals 22.6 ppg .381 FG%
Last Game of Series .333 FG%

07-08
Regular season 28.3 ppg .459 FG%
Finals 25.7 ppg .405 FG%
Last Game of Series .318 FG%

08-09
Regular season 26.8 ppg .467 FG%
Finals 32.4 ppg .430 FG%
Last Game of Series .435 FG%

09-10
Regular season 27.0 ppg .456 FG%
Finals 28.6 ppg .405 FG%
Last Game of Series .250 FG%


Other noteables:


97-98
Swept by Utah 4-0.
Kobe averages 10.0 ppg on a .367 FG%

98-99
Swept by San Antonio 4-0
Last game of the series : Kobe 16 points on a .438 FG%

02-03
Lose to Spurs in WCF's, 4-2.
Last game loss by a score of 110-82 (Kobe with 20 points in a season in which he averaged 30 ppg)

03-04 Finals
Heavily favored Lakers lose to Pistons, 4-1.
In the clinching game five loss Kobe shoots .333 in a 100-87 loss (and LA was down 23 going into 4th quarter)

04-05
Team goes 34-48 and misses playoffs

05-06
Regular season 35.4 ppg .450
Playoffs 27.9 ppg .497
Last game (7) 24 points in a 121-90 loss (after blowing a 3-1 series lead)

06-07
Team goes 42-40
Loses in first round to Suns, 4-1.
Last game of that series, Kobe shoots .394 from the floor

07-08
Lakers are blown out by Celts in Finals.
In game four the Lakers blow a 23 point lead, and lose, in a game in which Kobe shot .316 from the field.
In the clinching game six loss, the Lakers lose by a Finals record margin of 131-92. Kobe shoots .318 from the floor.

10-11
Lakers with HCA are swept by the Mavs, 4-0.
In the clinching game four loss, LA loses 122-86. Kobe shoots .389 from the field.

[Jameerthefear]

Wilt Chamberlain. Dude basically invented the term 'choker'. Has the highest dropoff between regular season and finals. He's ass.

[LAZERUSS]

Wilt Chamberlain. Dude basically invented the term 'choker'. Has the highest dropoff between regular season and finals. He's ass.

He did huh?

In the regular seasons in which he went to the Finals...

'64:

Regular season: 34.7 ppg
Regular season H2H's with Russell: 29.1 ppg
Finals, and against Russell: 29.2 ppg

'67:

Regular season: 24.1 ppg
Regular season against Thurmond: 20.8 ppg
Finals, and against Thurmond: 17.5 ppg

'69:

Regular season: 20.5 ppg
Regular season H2H's against Russell: 16.0 ppg
Finals, and against Russell: 11.7 ppg

70: Regular season...AFTER surgery: 12.0 ppg
Regular season H2H with Reed: 12.0 ppg
Finals, and against Reed: 23.2 ppg

'72:

Regular season: 14.8 ppg
Regular season H2H's against Lucas: 16.8 ppg
Finals, and against Lucas: 19.2 ppg

'73:

Regular season: 13.2 ppg
Regular season H2H's against Reed: 9.3 ppg
Finals, and against Reed: 11.6 ppg.

Not quite as much a "drop" as you realized was it?


Now, how about his defense:

'64:

Russell averaged 15.0 ppg on a .433 FG% in his regular season.
Against Wilt in the Finals: 11.2 ppg on a .386 FG%

'67:

Thurmond averaged 18.7 ppg on a .437 FG% in his regular season.
Against Wilt in the Finals: 14.3 ppg on a .343 FG%.

'69:

Russell averaged 9.9 ppg on a .433 FG% in the regular season.
Against Wilt in the Finals: 9.0 ppg on a .397 FG%.

'70:

Reed averaged 21.7 ppg on a .507 FG%
Against Wilt in the Finals: 23.0 ppg on a .483 FG%.

'72:

Lucas averaged 16.7 ppg on a .512 FG% in his regular season.
Against Wilt in the Finals: 20.0 ppg on a .500 FG%

'73:

Reed averaged 11.0 ppg on a .474 FG% in his regular season.
Against Wilt in the Finals: 18.6 ppg on a .493 FG%.


FG%:

'64 Finals:

Russell: .386
Wilt: .517

'67 Finals:

Thurmond: .343
Wilt: .560

'69 Finals:

Russell: .397
Wilt: .500

'70 Finals:

Reed: .483
Wilt: .625

'72 Finals:

Lucas: .500
Wilt: .600

'73 Finals:

Reed: .493
Wilt: .525


Rebounding:

'64 Finals:

Russell: 25.2 rpg
Wilt: 27.8 rpg

'67 Finals:

Thurmond: 26.7 rpg
Wilt: 28.5 rpg

'69 Finals:

Russell: 21.4 rpg
Wilt: 25.0 rpg

'70 Finals:

Reed: 10.5 rpg
Wilt: 24.1 rpg

'72 Finals:

Lucas: 9.8 rpg
Wilt: 23.2 rpg

'73 Finals:

Reed: 9.2 rpg
Wilt: 18.6 rpg


How about must-win and clinching Finals games:

'64 Finals:

Game 5:

Russell: 14 pts, 26 rebs, 5-11 FG/FGA
Wilt: 30 pts, 27 rebs, 12-28 FG/FGA


'67:

Game 6:

Thurmond: 12 pts, 22 rebs, 4-13 FG/FGA
Wilt: 24 pts, 23 rebs, 8-13 FG/FGA

'69

Game 7:

Russell: 6 pts, 21 rebs, 2-7 FG/FGA
Wilt: 18 pts, 27 rebs, 7-8 FG/FGA


'70:

Game 6:

Reed: DNP
Wilt: 45 pts, 27 rebs, 20-27 FG/FGA

Game 7:

Reed: 4 pts, 3 rebs, 2-5 FG/FGA
Wilt: 21 pts, 24 rebs, 10-16 FG/FGA


'72:

Game 5:

Lucas: 14 pts, 9 rebs, 5-14 FG/FGA
Wilt: 24 pts, 29 rebs, 10-14 FG/FGA


'73:

Game 5:

Reed: 18 pts, 12 rebs, 9-16 FG/FGA
Wilt: 23 pts, 21 rebs, 9-16 FG/FGA


And the REALITY was...Wilt only played in ON Finals, in his "scoring" seasons, and his "drop-off" was from 34.7 ppg, to 29.2 ppg...BUT, in his H2H's with Russell that season, it was 29.1 ppg...or an actual increase.

[24-Inch_Chrome]

OP has Isiah and Iverson in his top-10.

Credibility = shot.

[LAZERUSS]

Bird in his five Finals:

'81:

Regular season: 21.2 ppg on a .478 FG%
Finals: 15.3 ppg on a .419 FG%


'84 :

Regular season: 24.2 ppg on a .492 FG%
Finals: 27.0 ppg on a .484 FG%


'85:

Regular season: 28.7 ppg on a .522 FG%
Finals: 23.8 ppg on a .449 FG%


'86:

Regular season: 25.8 ppg on a .496 FG%
Finals: 24.0 ppg on a .482 FG%


'87:

Regular season: 28.1 ppg on a .525 FG%
Finals: 24.2 ppg on a .445 FG%.

[Jameerthefear]

Where's Bigalow with the stats? Y'all remember when Wilt shot 2-11 from the FT line in an elimination game where they lost by one? :roll:

[LAZERUSS]

Where's Bigalow with the stats? Y'all remember when Wilt shot 2-11 from the FT line in an elimination game where they lost by one? :roll:

:roll: :roll: :roll:

Let me help you with that one...

First of all...it wasn't an elimination game (game four of the '69 Finals)

Secondly, Chamberlain shot 2-11 from the line, while his counter-part, Russell, shot 2-12 from the FIELD. Oh, and Wilt's teammate, Elgin Baylor, not only shot 2-14 from the floor...he also shot 1-6 from the LINE...in a one point loss. Oh, and as was almost always the case, Chamberlain outrebounded his opposing center, 31-29.

But thanks for playing...

now, you can get back to another episode of the Power Rangers...

[Deuce Bigalow]

Wilt Chamberlain

'64
Regular season - 36.9 ppg (.524, .531)
Finals - 29.2 ppg (.517, .415)
1-4 series loss

'67
Regular season - 24.3 ppg (.683, .441)
Finals - 17.7 ppg (.560, .306)
4-2 series win

'69
Regular season - 20.5 ppg (.583, .446)
Finals - 11.7 ppg (.500, .375)
3-4 series loss

'70
Regular season - 27.3 ppg (.583, .446)
Finals - 23.3 ppg (.625, .343)
3-4 series loss

'72
Regular season - 14.8 ppg (.649, .422)
Finals - 19.4 ppg (.600, .543)
4-1 series win

'73
Regular season - 13.2 ppg (.727, .510)
Finals - 11.6 ppg (.524, .368)
1-4 series loss

2/6
16-19

[RoundMoundOfReb]

Wilt Chamberlain

'64
Regular season - 36.9 ppg (.524, .531)
Finals - 29.2 ppg (.517, .415)
1-4 series loss

'67
Regular season - 24.3 ppg (.683, .441)
Finals - 17.7 ppg (.560, .306)
4-2 series win

'69
Regular season - 20.5 ppg (.583, .446)
Finals - 11.7 ppg (.500, .375)
3-4 series loss

'70
Regular season - 27.3 ppg (.583, .446)
Finals - 23.3 ppg (.625, .343)
3-4 series loss

'72
Regular season - 14.8 ppg (.649, .422)
Finals - 19.4 ppg (.600, .543)
4-1 series win

'73
Regular season - 13.2 ppg (.727, .510)
Finals - 11.6 ppg (.524, .368)
1-4 series loss

2/6
16-19

#Ether

Wilt was a giant among dwarves in the regular season, but when the post-season came along and he actually started facing stiffer competition (equivalent to modern day division 2 ball) he choked. Consistently.

[ImKobe]

Not really, because Lebron isn't top 10 yet.

[ImKobe]

:roll: :roll: :roll:

Let me help you with that one...

First of all...it wasn't an elimination game (game four of the '69 Finals)

Secondly, Chamberlain shot 2-11 from the line, while his counter-part, Russell, shot 2-12 from the FIELD. Oh, and Wilt's teammate, Elgin Baylor, not only shot 2-14 from the floor...he also shot 1-6 from the LINE...in a one point loss. Oh, and as was almost always the case, Chamberlain outrebounded his opposing center, 31-29.

But thanks for playing...

now, you can get back to another episode of the Power Rangers...

wow, he outrebounded his opposing player by a whopping 2 boards.

so, because some of his teammates had a sub-par game, it excuses his poor performance? Shaq was a horrible shooter, but when did he ever shoot THAT poorly from the line in a deciding Finals game?

[dubeta]

Not really, because Lebron isn't top 10 yet.

Don't you get tired of this trolling gimmick?

[pauk]

How can a guy who ends up being one of the 10 greatest due to talent/skill & hence top 10 best ability to do killer instinct'ish stuff with their own respective/specific games which end up with accolades that put them in top 10... LACK KILLER INSTINCT?

Interesting...

ALL of them had bad games in the Finals, but they got to the Finals, they pushed their teams to the very last stage to compete for championships & those 10 succeeded better than everybody else... some of those 10 did better than the others.... but none lacked "killer instinct" (whatever that means to you)....

Knowing who you are i was thinking also there must be some Kobe stan/Lebron hating agenda to it, which i cant explain here at all... because there is nothing in favor of Kobe here, infact if you are talking about who underperformed the most in Finals of those 10 players then Kobe is one of the candidates aswell unfortunately.... and i know you cant do that to your idol? He surely didnt lack killer instinct?

[Kblaze8855]

Heat down 10 points going into the 4th...lose...no ring.

This is the rest of the Heat scoring:


Lebron makes 2 FTs

Chalmers makes a 3(Lebron assist)

Miller makes a 3(Lebron assist)

Lebron dunk

Lebron dunk

Lebron layup

Birdman makes 1 FT

Lebron layup(ties the game)

Ray allen Layup

Lebron freethrow

Lebron layup

Wade 2 FTs

Lebron 3(team down 5 at the time)

Ray Allen 3 to force OT

In Overtime:

Bosh layup(Lebron assist)

Ray jumper(Lebron assist)

Lebron jumper

2 FTs by ray at the end


Lebron scores or assists on 13 out of 15 made field goals from being down 10 about to start the 4th of a game they had to win. Goes on to game 7....


Game 7....its a tie game in the third. Lebron scores 22 points from there to win game 7....including the huge jumper to make it a 4 point game with seconds left. Finishes with 37/12 having scored or assisted on over 60% of their shots in the second half.


People watched this happen...and come online and claim he didnt have shit to do with them winning because Ray made a 3 that required every shot Lebron made to that point to even matter. People will post a 2 minute stretch of turnovers and misses while trying to impose his will(what they seem to want him to do) and act like he had nothing to do with winning the 2 biggest games of his career....when he was clearly doing more than anyone else by a wide wide wide margin.

That isnt common everyday hate.

Thats just flat out lying to yourself and others.

If scoring or assisting on 87% of your teams field goals in the 4th and OT of game 6 of the finals then scoring or assisting on 62% of your teams second half field goals in game 7 isnt showing something....youre pretty much just being a dick or lying to yourself.

[AintNoSunshine]

Heat down 10 points going into the 4th...lose...no ring.

This is the rest of the Heat scoring:


Lebron makes 2 FTs

Chalmers makes a 3(Lebron assist)

Miller makes a 3(Lebron assist)

Lebron dunk

Lebron dunk

Lebron layup

Birdman makes 1 FT

Lebron layup(ties the game)

Ray allen Layup

Lebron freethrow

Lebron layup

Wade 2 FTs

Lebron 3(team down 5 at the time)

Ray Allen 3 to force OT

In Overtime:

Bosh layup(Lebron assist)

Ray jumper(Lebron assist)

Lebron jumper

2 FTs by ray at the end


Lebron scores or assists on 13 out of 15 made field goals from being down 10 about to start the 4th of a game they had to win. Goes on to game 7....


Game 7....its a tie game in the third. Lebron scores 22 points from there to win game 7....including the huge jumper to make it a 4 point game with seconds left. Finishes with 37/12 having scored or assisted on over 60% of their shots in the second half.


People watched this happen...and come online and claim he didnt have shit to do with them winning because Ray made a 3 that required every shot Lebron made to that point to even matter. People will post a 2 minute stretch of turnovers and misses while trying to impose his will(what they seem to want him to do) and act like he had nothing to do with winning the 2 biggest games of his career....when he was clearly doing more than anyone else by a wide wide wide margin.

That isnt common everyday hate.

Thats just flat out lying to yourself and others.

If scoring or assisting on 87% of your teams field goals in the 4th and OT of game 6 of the finals then scoring or assisting on 62% of your teams second half field goals in game 7 isnt showing something....youre pretty much just being a dick or lying to yourself.
:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

[VengefulAngel]

Heat down 10 points going into the 4th...lose...no ring.

This is the rest of the Heat scoring:


Lebron makes 2 FTs

Chalmers makes a 3(Lebron assist)

Miller makes a 3(Lebron assist)

Lebron dunk

Lebron dunk

Lebron layup

Birdman makes 1 FT

Lebron layup(ties the game)

Ray allen Layup

Lebron freethrow

Lebron layup

Wade 2 FTs

Lebron 3(team down 5 at the time)

Ray Allen 3 to force OT

In Overtime:

Bosh layup(Lebron assist)

Ray jumper(Lebron assist)

Lebron jumper

2 FTs by ray at the end


Lebron scores or assists on 13 out of 15 made field goals from being down 10 about to start the 4th of a game they had to win. Goes on to game 7....


Game 7....its a tie game in the third. Lebron scores 22 points from there to win game 7....including the huge jumper to make it a 4 point game with seconds left. Finishes with 37/12 having scored or assisted on over 60% of their shots in the second half.


People watched this happen...and come online and claim he didnt have shit to do with them winning because Ray made a 3 that required every shot Lebron made to that point to even matter. People will post a 2 minute stretch of turnovers and misses while trying to impose his will(what they seem to want him to do) and act like he had nothing to do with winning the 2 biggest games of his career....when he was clearly doing more than anyone else by a wide wide wide margin.

That isnt common everyday hate.

Thats just flat out lying to yourself and others.

If scoring or assisting on 87% of your teams field goals in the 4th and OT of game 6 of the finals then scoring or assisting on 62% of your teams second half field goals in game 7 isnt showing something....youre pretty much just being a dick or lying to yourself.

:applause: :applause:

Although some would argue that it required a performance like game 6 and 7 due to his passivity in the prior 5 games, and relatively poor shooting performance up to game 7.

But 25/12/7 is still pretty decent.

[ISHGoat]

Heat down 10 points going into the 4th...lose...no ring.

This is the rest of the Heat scoring:


Lebron makes 2 FTs

Chalmers makes a 3(Lebron assist)

Miller makes a 3(Lebron assist)

Lebron dunk

Lebron dunk

Lebron layup

Birdman makes 1 FT

Lebron layup(ties the game)

Ray allen Layup

Lebron freethrow

Lebron layup

Wade 2 FTs

Lebron 3(team down 5 at the time)

Ray Allen 3 to force OT

In Overtime:

Bosh layup(Lebron assist)

Ray jumper(Lebron assist)

Lebron jumper

2 FTs by ray at the end


Lebron scores or assists on 13 out of 15 made field goals from being down 10 about to start the 4th of a game they had to win. Goes on to game 7....


Game 7....its a tie game in the third. Lebron scores 22 points from there to win game 7....including the huge jumper to make it a 4 point game with seconds left. Finishes with 37/12 having scored or assisted on over 60% of their shots in the second half.


People watched this happen...and come online and claim he didnt have shit to do with them winning because Ray made a 3 that required every shot Lebron made to that point to even matter. People will post a 2 minute stretch of turnovers and misses while trying to impose his will(what they seem to want him to do) and act like he had nothing to do with winning the 2 biggest games of his career....when he was clearly doing more than anyone else by a wide wide wide margin.

That isnt common everyday hate.

Thats just flat out lying to yourself and others.

If scoring or assisting on 87% of your teams field goals in the 4th and OT of game 6 of the finals then scoring or assisting on 62% of your teams second half field goals in game 7 isnt showing something....youre pretty much just being a dick or lying to yourself.

:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

We know real14 is a dick and he lies to himself all the dam time. Anyone that is a knicks fan like him has gotta be lieing to themself

[Rose'sACL]

Heat down 10 points going into the 4th...lose...no ring.

This is the rest of the Heat scoring:


Lebron makes 2 FTs

Chalmers makes a 3(Lebron assist)

Miller makes a 3(Lebron assist)

Lebron dunk

Lebron dunk

Lebron layup

Birdman makes 1 FT

Lebron layup(ties the game)

Ray allen Layup

Lebron freethrow

Lebron layup

Wade 2 FTs

Lebron 3(team down 5 at the time)

Ray Allen 3 to force OT

In Overtime:

Bosh layup(Lebron assist)

Ray jumper(Lebron assist)

Lebron jumper

2 FTs by ray at the end


Lebron scores or assists on 13 out of 15 made field goals from being down 10 about to start the 4th of a game they had to win. Goes on to game 7....


Game 7....its a tie game in the third. Lebron scores 22 points from there to win game 7....including the huge jumper to make it a 4 point game with seconds left. Finishes with 37/12 having scored or assisted on over 60% of their shots in the second half.


People watched this happen...and come online and claim he didnt have shit to do with them winning because Ray made a 3 that required every shot Lebron made to that point to even matter. People will post a 2 minute stretch of turnovers and misses while trying to impose his will(what they seem to want him to do) and act like he had nothing to do with winning the 2 biggest games of his career....when he was clearly doing more than anyone else by a wide wide wide margin.

That isnt common everyday hate.

Thats just flat out lying to yourself and others.

If scoring or assisting on 87% of your teams field goals in the 4th and OT of game 6 of the finals then scoring or assisting on 62% of your teams second half field goals in game 7 isnt showing something....youre pretty much just being a dick or lying to yourself.
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[Jameerthefear]

Wilt Chamberlain

'64
Regular season - 36.9 ppg (.524, .531)
Finals - 29.2 ppg (.517, .415)
1-4 series loss

'67
Regular season - 24.3 ppg (.683, .441)
Finals - 17.7 ppg (.560, .306)
4-2 series win

'69
Regular season - 20.5 ppg (.583, .446)
Finals - 11.7 ppg (.500, .375)
3-4 series loss

'70
Regular season - 27.3 ppg (.583, .446)
Finals - 23.3 ppg (.625, .343)
3-4 series loss

'72
Regular season - 14.8 ppg (.649, .422)
Finals - 19.4 ppg (.600, .543)
4-1 series win

'73
Regular season - 13.2 ppg (.727, .510)
Finals - 11.6 ppg (.524, .368)
1-4 series loss

2/6
16-19
****ing owned jlauber again :roll:

[Prometheus]

Heat down 10 points going into the 4th...lose...no ring.

This is the rest of the Heat scoring:


Lebron makes 2 FTs

Chalmers makes a 3(Lebron assist)

Miller makes a 3(Lebron assist)

Lebron dunk

Lebron dunk

Lebron layup

Birdman makes 1 FT

Lebron layup(ties the game)

Ray allen Layup

Lebron freethrow

Lebron layup

Wade 2 FTs

Lebron 3(team down 5 at the time)

Ray Allen 3 to force OT

In Overtime:

Bosh layup(Lebron assist)

Ray jumper(Lebron assist)

Lebron jumper

2 FTs by ray at the end


Lebron scores or assists on 13 out of 15 made field goals from being down 10 about to start the 4th of a game they had to win. Goes on to game 7....


Game 7....its a tie game in the third. Lebron scores 22 points from there to win game 7....including the huge jumper to make it a 4 point game with seconds left. Finishes with 37/12 having scored or assisted on over 60% of their shots in the second half.


People watched this happen...and come online and claim he didnt have shit to do with them winning because Ray made a 3 that required every shot Lebron made to that point to even matter. People will post a 2 minute stretch of turnovers and misses while trying to impose his will(what they seem to want him to do) and act like he had nothing to do with winning the 2 biggest games of his career....when he was clearly doing more than anyone else by a wide wide wide margin.

That isnt common everyday hate.

Thats just flat out lying to yourself and others.

If scoring or assisting on 87% of your teams field goals in the 4th and OT of game 6 of the finals then scoring or assisting on 62% of your teams second half field goals in game 7 isnt showing something....youre pretty much just being a dick or lying to yourself.

I could just kiss you right now.

:applause:

[Prometheus]

Kobe number 1 lacking killer instinct in the finals? First time I'll agree with you.

He listed Kobe as his #1 all-time player, but he only said that Shaq and Wilt lacked killer instinct in the Finals.

[ArbitraryWater]

Heat down 10 points going into the 4th...lose...no ring.

This is the rest of the Heat scoring:


Lebron makes 2 FTs

Chalmers makes a 3(Lebron assist)

Miller makes a 3(Lebron assist)

Lebron dunk

Lebron dunk

Lebron layup

Birdman makes 1 FT

Lebron layup(ties the game)

Ray allen Layup

Lebron freethrow

Lebron layup

Wade 2 FTs

Lebron 3(team down 5 at the time)

Ray Allen 3 to force OT

In Overtime:

Bosh layup(Lebron assist)

Ray jumper(Lebron assist)

Lebron jumper

2 FTs by ray at the end


Lebron scores or assists on 13 out of 15 made field goals from being down 10 about to start the 4th of a game they had to win. Goes on to game 7....


Game 7....its a tie game in the third. Lebron scores 22 points from there to win game 7....including the huge jumper to make it a 4 point game with seconds left. Finishes with 37/12 having scored or assisted on over 60% of their shots in the second half.


People watched this happen...and come online and claim he didnt have shit to do with them winning because Ray made a 3 that required every shot Lebron made to that point to even matter. People will post a 2 minute stretch of turnovers and misses while trying to impose his will(what they seem to want him to do) and act like he had nothing to do with winning the 2 biggest games of his career....when he was clearly doing more than anyone else by a wide wide wide margin.

That isnt common everyday hate.

Thats just flat out lying to yourself and others.

If scoring or assisting on 87% of your teams field goals in the 4th and OT of game 6 of the finals then scoring or assisting on 62% of your teams second half field goals in game 7 isnt showing something....youre pretty much just being a dick or lying to yourself.

wow... I love you Kblaze.

[Real14]

Did I even mentioned bron??:oldlol: How the hell he's top 10 anyway?:lol Kblaze wrote all of that info acting like I said his name or something:oldlol: How about you post the times bron missed wide open jumpers and his turnovers that game. Matter of fact how about you post his 2011 finals 4th quarter sessions or him choking in 2007? Oh yea what about his cramping brigades in 2014 finals? :confusedshrug: I want to see that:applause:

[Prometheus]

Did I even mentioned bron??:oldlol: How the hell he's top 10 anyway?:lol Kblaze wrote all of that info acting like I said his name or something:oldlol: How about you post the times bron missed wide open jumpers and his turnovers that game. Matter of fact how about you post his 2011 finals 4th quarter sessions or him choking in 2007? Oh yea what about his cramping brigades in 2014 finals? :confusedshrug: I want to see that:applause:

I'll bet when you have a shitty day, you go home and watch youtube compilations of LeBron flopping, missing shots in the Finals, and losing. It's really scary how obsessed you are man. Not trolling.

[24-Inch_Chrome]

Future negged for trying to criticize an athlete for getting heat cramps in their legs. You've clearly never experienced them, it's not possible to play through them.

[Real14]

I'll bet when you have a shitty day, you go home and watch youtube compilations of LeBron flopping, missing shots in the Finals, and losing. It's really scary how obsessed you are man. Not trolling.

Im just saying that you cant LeBron in that same bracket with kobe and Jordan. Kobe and Jordan meant business, Lebron cramps, quits, chokes, and puts up 0 points in the 4th quarter.

[Nash]

is real14 aka fresh the worst poster on ish?

[Prometheus]

Im just saying that you cant LeBron in that same bracket with kobe and Jordan. Kobe and Jordan meant business, Lebron cramps, quits, chokes, and puts up 0 points in the 4th quarter.

How many hours of your life have you spent trying to convince people of exactly this?

[Real14]

Future negged for trying to criticize an athlete for getting heat cramps in their legs. You've clearly never experienced them, it's not possible to play through them.

Niguh I had leg cramps in ball before bro, but this is suppose to be tha king, the greatest player in the world. He could of done better, plus why he quit in the other games where his team was getting their asses handed by tha old spurs with non all star leonard outplay him?:biggums:

[Real14]

is real14 aka fresh the worst poster on ish?
cuz I don't like LeBron or the cheat heat teams he played with?:confusedshrug: Stay salty man:oldlol:

[Real14]

How many hours of your life have you spent trying to convince people of exactly this?
Youre in such denial right now:roll:

[24-Inch_Chrome]

Niguh I had leg cramps in ball before bro, but this is suppose to be tha king, the greatest player in the world. He could of done better, plus why he quit in the other games where his team was getting their asses handed by tha old spurs with non all star leonard outplay him?:biggums:

It's not possible to play through them, what aren't you understanding? There wasn't an athlete on the planet who could have played in that game.

[ImKobe]

Heat down 10 points going into the 4th...lose...no ring.

This is the rest of the Heat scoring:


Lebron makes 2 FTs

Chalmers makes a 3(Lebron assist)

Miller makes a 3(Lebron assist)

Lebron dunk

Lebron dunk

Lebron layup

Birdman makes 1 FT

Lebron layup(ties the game)

Ray allen Layup

Lebron freethrow

Lebron layup

Wade 2 FTs

Lebron 3(team down 5 at the time)

Ray Allen 3 to force OT

In Overtime:

Bosh layup(Lebron assist)

Ray jumper(Lebron assist)

Lebron jumper

2 FTs by ray at the end


Lebron scores or assists on 13 out of 15 made field goals from being down 10 about to start the 4th of a game they had to win. Goes on to game 7....


Game 7....its a tie game in the third. Lebron scores 22 points from there to win game 7....including the huge jumper to make it a 4 point game with seconds left. Finishes with 37/12 having scored or assisted on over 60% of their shots in the second half.


People watched this happen...and come online and claim he didnt have shit to do with them winning because Ray made a 3 that required every shot Lebron made to that point to even matter. People will post a 2 minute stretch of turnovers and misses while trying to impose his will(what they seem to want him to do) and act like he had nothing to do with winning the 2 biggest games of his career....when he was clearly doing more than anyone else by a wide wide wide margin.

That isnt common everyday hate.

Thats just flat out lying to yourself and others.

If scoring or assisting on 87% of your teams field goals in the 4th and OT of game 6 of the finals then scoring or assisting on 62% of your teams second half field goals in game 7 isnt showing something....youre pretty much just being a dick or lying to yourself.

Oh great, he had two good Finals games, how great was he from Games 1-5? How great was he in the last 2 minutes of the 4th quarter in Game 6?

Spurs were spanking the Heat a la 2014 in the first 5 games, but Wade showed up and kept them from losing 3 straight in San Antonio to lose the series.

This is why I have a problem with Lebron stans and people that say he's a GREAT Finals performer... Game 1 of 2013 Finals Parker hits dagger over him to seal the game, Lebron was a NEGATIVE his first 3 games of that series, Wade showed up big time in Game 4 and won them a crucial game in San Antonio. Lebron Game 6 was great in the 4th until it came to closing the deal...Parker hit a clutch 3 in his face...he turned the ball over twice and missed 2 out of 3 shots in the closing minutes of the game. Chris Bosh doesn't rebound his missed shot and doesn't kick it to Ray Allen for 3, not to mention the missed FTs by Kawhi AND Manu...Spurs would be repeat champs right now. Lebron in that series contributed about as much as Kobe in the 2000 Finals. Played horribly (Kobe had an injury excuse) for most of the series while padding his rebs and asts and showed up in certain stretches and barely won. By your logic, Kobe in 2000 deserves about as much credit because he closed a game out on the road in OT with Shaq fouled out. See where I'm getting at?

Now, tell me how clutch and how great he is in the Finals, when his only legit Finals MVP and championship came in a lockout season against a young Thunder squad.

[Prometheus]

Youre in such denial right now:roll:

Jordan > Kobe > LeBron. You convinced me. Now what?

Where does it end, Fresh? What will you gain from this?

[kennethgriffin]

lebron and wilt are truly men amongst boys


which is why they don't take playing a childish game like shooty hoops seriously when it matters most

finals? pre season? same sh*t

[Prometheus]

lebron and wilt are truly men amongst boys


which is why they don't take playing a childish game like shooty hoops seriously when it matters most

finals? pre season? same sh*t

:oldlol:

[Kblaze8855]

When someone starts a post by downplaying the significance of dominating games 6 and 7 of the NBA finals to win a ring(just because the subject had the audacity to be putting up 22/11/7/2 before that) I generally cant take it serious.

He had no more to do with winning than Kobe and his 16/5/4 on 37% shooting as he went 4-20 and 8-27 in the final 2 games. The game 4 closeout after shaq fouled out with 36/21 and the game 6 fts(while shaq had 41/12) equal erasing a 10 point deficit in 3 minutes to stay alive in game 6 and:







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in game 7.

While his two star teammates combined for 24 points in game 6 and 23 in game 7(all 23 being Wade...as Bosh went scoreless).

Lebron is his teams best player in the playoffs and finals(clearly not in every game...which is usual for a team with more than one star). He has no more to do with winning than Kobe...who puts up Troy Hudson numbers while Shaq drops 38/17 in the finals....

Of equal worth....because Kobe(who played 9 minutes total in games 2 and 3 combined) closed out game 4....and hit big FTs to extend a lead.

Just just another of those...lying or being delusional things. Nobody said Lebron dominated the entire series. How often does anyone do that? Its a team sport. Bird scored 17 while someone having a good night put it down plenty of times. Nobody has it going every night. But the concept of killer instinct? Going for it when you HAVE to have it?

He took over game 6 when people were literally already making "Spurs win!" topics with them up 10 in the 4th. He turned it on and took over game 7 as well.

Are people really supposed to be talking up game 3 like it matters?

Think anyone was making a big deal of Jerry West shooting 29% the first 3 games of the 72 finals? Kareem got straight up embarrassed to start 85....and I think the Celtics set a gang of finals records. THe Memorial Day Massacre it was called. And then he came back and stood tall...won finals MVP.

You win or you lose. You play well or you dont. He didnt play well by his standards....then he went in to win a ring in the biggest of games.

Which is what people have been judging players clutchness/killer instinct by for all time.

The rest is just hate. And nobody is gonna give two shits long term.

People dont give a shit Kobe scored like 70 points in the entire 2000 finals. Hell people dont even know.

And really....they dont much need to.

You dont judge people by what their group of 2 dozen players/coaches/trainers/front office people do it wouldnt be an issue to begin with.

Kobe proved himself a hundred times regardless of what he shot some random game 15 years ago even if it was the finals. And Lebron was already a champ himself before he took over game 6....

This is just hater fodder for the internet to obsess over.

Nobody is gonna know any of it without a hate fueled google marathon in the future.