Kobe bryant defending LeBron.

[longhornfan1234]

"@kobebryant - lbj has yet to prove he can win a championship without 2 other superstars".







Kobe's response:

"Lbj doesn't need to prove that @PaulBrahan... I had Shaq + Pau... Mj had Pip... Magic had Worthy + Kareem etc AND we all had great teammates"

https://twitter.com/kobebryant/status/588015896658063362




:applause: Kobe shutting up Lebron haters.

[Im Still Ballin]

Game's over trolls

Real recognize Real.

[LEFT4DEAD]

http://gifrific.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/kevin-garnett-reaction.gif

Kobetards on suicide watch.

[ShawkFactory]

Lock it and throw away the key

:lol

[TylerOO]

This is groundbreaking. It's over.

[BigNBAfan]

but lebron has both of them on the same team currently. Pau and shaq were never on the same team at once and shaq and kobe never colluded and neither did pip and jordan

but kobe said it and he>me

[ShawkFactory]

but lebron has both of them on the same team currently. Pau and shaq were never on the same team at once and shaq and kobe never colluded and neither did pip and jordan

but kobe said it and he>me
None of those guys ever really needed to. Great coaches and players were dropped in their pocket. Bron didn't get as lucky.

[dubeta]

Only place where he can defend LeBron

[Nash]

kobe is a lebron stan.

[longhornfan1234]

Only place where he can defend LeBron
:roll:

[24-Inch_Chrome]

but lebron has both of them on the same team currently. Pau and shaq were never on the same team at once and shaq and kobe never colluded and neither did pip and jordan

but kobe said it and he>me

Just let it be, that's a classy response from Kobe. No need to debate the quality of their respective star teammates.

[LEFT4DEAD]

Only place where he can defend LeBron
http://rs18.pbsrc.com/albums/b128/kimasabe/ARTWORK%20Graphics%20animations/SMILEYS%20float%20my%20boat%20MORE/41.gif~c200

[sammichoffate]

Only place where he can defend LeBronhttps://38.media.tumblr.com/64f26b2d93b457907682cc891a4dab4c/tumblr_mjdckiD2V91rdei95o1_r1_500.gif

[avonbarksdale]

kobe has been going nuts on twitter lately

ruining ish

[imnew09]

https://38.media.tumblr.com/64f26b2d93b457907682cc891a4dab4c/tumblr_mjdckiD2V91rdei95o1_r1_500.gif


Too Soon Dubeta:roll:

[dubeta]

Funny how All-Star games can make even the worst defenders look good.

[LongLiveTheKing]

Kobe stans don't know what to do :lol

[imdaman99]

Funny how everyone can score at will in All-Star games except Lebron when Kobe covers him :pimp:

[Hey Yo]

but lebron has both of them on the same team currently. Pau and shaq were never on the same team at once and shaq and kobe never colluded and neither did pip and jordan

but kobe said it and he>me
Shaq doubled Bosh's PPG and tripled his RPG.

[sammichoffate]

Funny how All-Star games can make even the worst defenders look good.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUc8677iffE

[Im Still Ballin]

No matter how much "off the statsheet" impact people think Bosh had, the fact remains that scoring 0 points in game 7 of the NBA finals is very much negligible and eerily replaceable

[Dr Hawk]

No matter how much "off the statsheet" impact people think Bosh had, the fact remains that scoring 0 points in game 7 of the NBA finals is very much negligible and eerily replaceable

It is not like he was Ben freaking Wallace on defense to make up for his atrocious offense.

[SouBeachTalents]

12 seasons, 1 All-NBA selection (from 8 year ago), and absolutely no postseason success with his own team, and Bosh is still considered a "superstar".

[protox]

Wow, Kobe stans and LBJ haters are avoiding this thread like the plague. Guess the only argument left would be 2/5? :lol

[dh144498]

https://38.media.tumblr.com/64f26b2d93b457907682cc891a4dab4c/tumblr_mjdckiD2V91rdei95o1_r1_500.gif

:roll:

rekt

[alec613]

Funny how All-Star games can make even the worst defenders look good.

It's okay Dubeta. We understand, we understand

[warriorfan]

kobe ethering his own stans

[Spaulding]

This should be a sticky

[bballnoob1192]

This should be a sticky
not really only retarded stans argue about kobe vs. lebron. neither player have ever indicated any disdain towards the other only praise and mutual respect.

[Spaulding]

not really only retarded stans argue about kobe vs. lebron. neither player have ever indicated any disdain towards the other only praise and mutual respect.

Ya and this forum is full of stans.

[Spaulding]

:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

LOL at these idiots hating on these legends. MJ stans on suicide watch. :lol

Mj had Rodman too.

[sportjames23]

Only place where he can defend LeBron


Damn, you can't even accept this without taking a shot at Kobe. He's defending your bitch and you STILL gotta throw shade. :facepalm

[sportjames23]

:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

LOL at these idiots hating on these legends. MJ stans on suicide watch. :lol


Um, why?

MJ got 6 rings and a **** ton of individual awards. Want to compare Lebron and MJ accomplishments again, fggt?

[SugarHill]

LeBron grew up idolizing Kobe and Kobe likes LeBron. The stan wars are for nothing lol

[ArbitraryWater]

Only place where he can defend LeBron

lmao :roll:

forreal though, Kobe speaking dat truth.

[sd3035]

Kobe and Bran are like Poido and Plowking

[SugarHill]

Kobe and Bran are like Poido and Plowking
:oldlol:

[kennethgriffin]

has anyone replied with "ya but did you, mj or magic ever ring chase in your prime... twice?"





and lol@ kobe putting 1 pau or 1 pippen in the same category with bosh/wade/ray ray all at the same time

[dubeta]

has anyone replied with "ya but did you, mj or magic ever ring chase in your prime... twice?"





and lol@ kobe putting 1 pau or 1 pippen in the same category with bosh/wade/ray ray all at the same time


Pau = 21/11/2 on 50% 2010 playoffs




Bosh = 12pts /6 rebounds 2013 and 2014 playoffs

Wade = 15, 4, 4 2013 and 2014 playoffs


Gasol is arguably better than Wade and Bosh COMBINED

[avonbarksdale]

kobe as real and humble as they come

[WallIn]

Kobestans

http://cdn.yourepeat.com/media/gif/000/374/581/2efefb17061b758f99c024da0e8d59c5.gif

[kennethgriffin]

i just signed up to twitter and responded to kobe..


@kobebryant @PaulBrahan sure.... but did you, MJ or Magic ever ring chase in your prime twice before their 30th birthday? @kobebryant?



waiting for his reply



anyone who wants to fallow me - @griffmoney1984

[imdaman99]

has anyone replied with "ya but did you, mj or magic ever ring chase in your prime... twice?"

and lol@ kobe putting 1 pau or 1 pippen in the same category with bosh/wade/ray ray all at the same time
:lol and the next playoff win Pau gets, will be his first without Kobe :roll:

At least Bosh won a playoff game before.

[kennethgriffin]

Pau = 21/11/2 on 50% 2010 playoffs




Bosh = 12pts /6 rebounds 2013 and 2014 playoffs

Wade = 15, 4, 4 2013 and 2014 playoffs


Gasol is arguably better than Wade and Bosh COMBINED


lol wtf are you posting 2013 and 2014?

shouldnt you be posting 2012 and 2013


you dont even know the years miami won? you call yourself a fan

:roll:

[SugarHill]

kobe as real and humble as they come
"You can

[Im Still Ballin]

The Stan Wars are a lie

[dubeta]

[QUOTE=SugarHill]"You can

[kennethgriffin]

kobes just sticking up for his illuminati buddy in public

i remember at MJ's party they both clowned lebron the entire night

[avonbarksdale]

kobe the greatest always looking out for his boys

[kennethgriffin]

everyone retweet this shit

https://twitter.com/griffmoney1984/with_replies

or like it.. i dunno. bump it up

[24-Inch_Chrome]

everyone retweet this shit

https://twitter.com/griffmoney1984/with_replies

or like it.. i dunno. bump it up

No. You're right that it's shit though.

[kennethgriffin]

i just challenged kobe to a game of 1 on 1




kenneth griffin @griffmoney1984

[ShawkFactory]

[QUOTE=kennethgriffin]i just challenged kobe to a game of 1 on 1




kenneth griffin @griffmoney1984

[Prometheus]

[QUOTE=kennethgriffin]i just challenged kobe to a game of 1 on 1




kenneth griffin @griffmoney1984

[kennethgriffin]

He'd be creeped out by you.

And if he did get over that he'd embarrass you. You'd become a Bron fan after that.

funny thing is kobe probably does know who i am.

[ShawkFactory]

funny thing is kobe probably does know who i am.
Why would that be funny? A supposed 30 year old dude blowing his shit up all over twitter and message boards. It's creepy

[Prometheus]

funny thing is kobe probably does know who i am.

wtf makes you think this?

[kennethgriffin]

Why would that be funny


because it made me laugh when i realized how famous i am online

[kennethgriffin]

Why would that be funny? A supposed 30 year old dude blowing his shit up all over twitter and message boards. It's creepy


it took me till 2015 to make a twitter account lol

so far my post count is at (2)


:roll:

[Solefade]

lebron haters aka kobe stans on suicide watch

kobe just made you lebron trolls obsolete

[kennethgriffin]

lebron haters aka kobe stans on suicide watch

kobe just made you lebron trolls obsolete


see... the funny thing is... the argument against lebron was never winning WITH good team mates

it was always about how he GOT those team mates ( ring chasing ) and the lockout/ray allen shot ( and 2/5 finals record )


i cant remember the last time people on ISH were talking about "but lebron had wade/bosh"


who the hell ever even used that as a method of critiquing lebrons career?





:roll:

[ISHGoat]

lebron got kenneth melting down HARD, signing up for twitter and challenging kobe to 1 on 1 and shit lmao i was like lmao

[ShawkFactory]

it took me till 2015 to make a twitter account lol

so far my post count is at (2)


:roll:
Either way...you're like that My Morning Jacket episode of American Dad. Kobe wouldn't be comfortable in a room with you.

[kennethgriffin]

lebron got kenneth melting down HARD, signing up for twitter and challenging kobe to 1 on 1 and shit lmao i was like lmao



i challenge anyone to find a post where i made fun of lebron for having a good team

i've never said anything but

- lockout
- ray allen saving shot
- ring chasing/ colluding
- 2 for 5





just having a good team is fine... everyones entitled to circumstances theyre not under control of. and the best players should have guys wanting to play with them



but lebron rigged/colluded/cheated to get help.


thats where we have a problem

[kennethgriffin]

Either way...you're like that My Morning Jacket episode of American Dad. Kobe wouldn't be comfortable in a room with you.


i wouldnt be comfortable in a room with kobe either.

i don't trust black people

infact.. i think kobe is a bit of a scum bag outside of basketball

but hes the best player of his generation. and i'm a fan of basketball.. and i actually do think i could beat him 1 on 1 at this point

[Solefade]

Kenneth in this thread: I'm salty as fvck

[magictricked]

everyone retweet this shit

https://twitter.com/griffmoney1984/with_replies

or like it.. i dunno. bump it up

Never tried Twitter How many followers you got now?

[Prometheus]

i wouldnt be comfortable in a room with kobe either.

i don't trust black people

infact.. i think kobe is a bit of a scum bag outside of basketball

but hes the best player of his generation. and i'm a fan of basketball.. and i actually do think i could beat him 1 on 1 at this point

:lol

Suddenly I kinda like you.

[kennethgriffin]

Kenneth in this thread: I'm salty as fvck


i still dont understand.


youre all getting excited over kobe refuting something i've never used against lebron

[Solefade]

i still dont understand.


youre all getting excited over kobe refuting something i've never used against lebron


Can you explain something then?

can you explain how the lockout is an excuse to discredit lebron's ring when everyone else was in the same lockout?

and also how did Ray Allen win that ring for LeBron when he didn't score any points in OT or game 7?

[Andrei89]

lebron got kenneth melting down HARD, signing up for twitter and challenging kobe to 1 on 1 and shit lmao i was like lmao


:roll: :roll: :roll:

[tpols]

http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view4/4377198/joey-confused-o.gif

[ShawkFactory]

Can you explain something then?

can you explain how the lockout is an excuse to discredit lebron's ring when everyone else was in the same lockout?

and also how did Ray Allen win that ring for LeBron when he didn't score any points in OT or game 7?
Do you really need it explained?

They're all a means to discredit him..

[ralph_i_el]

somebody get Kobe on ISH. Seriously, Jeff needs to give Kobe an account with special privileges and w/e

[Solefade]

Do you really need it explained?

They're all a means to discredit him..

i don't i just want to see what funny explanation he comes up with :oldlol:

[kennethgriffin]

Can you explain something then?

can you explain how the lockout is an excuse to discredit lebron's ring when everyone else was in the same lockout?

and also how did Ray Allen win that ring for LeBron when he didn't score any points in OT or game 7?


i've done both of these things 1000 times before. i'l try and sum it up as quickly as possible because i'm bored of this conversation



lockout =

no training camp ( hurts teams with new coaches/systems - lakers )
very few practices ( ditto )
compact schedule ( causes injuries - DID cause many injuries. most notably derrick rose and many others )
older teams suffer ( spurs, mavs, lakers )
younger athletic teams flurish ( thunder ... didnt belong in the finals )

no lockout in 1999 = utah jazz nba champions. no lockout in 2012 = chicago bulls nba champions

plus its just at the end of the day a shortened season and very different regardless of repercussions. different = not the same. lesser = not the same





as for ray allens shot. the heat lost. the series was over. it was a do or die shot. lebron didnt control that series. it was in ray allens hands. game 7 should never have happened. it was a 2nd chance ring. no other superstar in history has ever been given a shot like that from a team mate in an elimination game before eventually winning it all




neither of lebrons rings are legit.. period

[SugarHill]

i wouldnt be comfortable in a room with kobe either.

i don't trust black people

infact.. i think kobe is a bit of a scum bag outside of basketball

but hes the best player of his generation. and i'm a fan of basketball.. and i actually do think i could beat him 1 on 1 at this point
that escalated :oldlol:

[Heavincent]

i wouldnt be comfortable in a room with kobe either.

i don't trust black people

infact.. i think kobe is a bit of a scum bag outside of basketball

but hes the best player of his generation. and i'm a fan of basketball.. and i actually do think i could beat him 1 on 1 at this point

:roll:

[kennethgriffin]

somebody get Kobe on ISH. Seriously, Jeff needs to give Kobe an account with special privileges and w/e

i'd troll that f*ckin bran stan all the way to the mental hospital

[ShawkFactory]

i've done both of these things 1000 times before. i'l try and sum it up as quickly as possible because i'm bored of this conversation



lockout =

no training camp ( hurts teams with new coaches/systems - lakers )
very few practices ( ditto )
compact schedule ( causes injuries - DID cause many injuries. most notably derrick rose and many others )
older teams suffer ( spurs, mavs, lakers )
younger athletic teams flurish ( thunder ... didnt belong in the finals )

no lockout in 1999 = utah jazz nba champions. no lockout in 2012 = chicago bulls nba champions

plus its just at the end of the day a shortened season and very different regardless of repercussions. different = not the same. lesser = not the same





as for ray allens shot. the heat lost. the series was over. it was a do or die shot. lebron didnt control that series. it was in ray allens hands. game 7 should never have happened. it was a 2nd chance ring. no other superstar in history has ever been given a shot like that from a team mate in an elimination game before eventually winning it all




neither of lebrons rings are legit.. periodIt doesn't matter how many times you say this :lol

[kennethgriffin]

It doesn't matter how many times you say this :lol


you think its just me?

theres millions of twitter fallowers on kobes ass repeating my sentiments

[Prometheus]

i'd troll that f*ckin bran stan all the way to the mental hospital

:oldlol:

[Cold soul]

somebody get Kobe on ISH. Seriously, Jeff needs to give Kobe an account with special privileges and w/e

If that happened Kobe wouldn't last long on ISH he get banned or leave too soon.

[ShawkFactory]

you think its just me?

theres millions of twitter fallowers on kobes ass repeating my sentiments
Cause they're also Kobetards...?

You're the type of people who say that Duncan's title in 05 isn't legit but any of Kobe's from 00-02 are.

[RepMe]

"@kobebryant - lbj has yet to prove he can win a championship without 2 other superstars".







Kobe's response:

"Lbj doesn't need to prove that @PaulBrahan... I had Shaq + Pau... Mj had Pip... Magic had Worthy + Kareem etc AND we all had great teammates"

https://twitter.com/kobebryant/status/588015896658063362




:applause: Kobe shutting up Lebron haters.

Kobe just knows that if he bags on LeBron, people will call him out for Shaq and Pau, but will get more heat for Shaq/Malone/Payton and Pau/Dwight/Nash.

[IncarceratedBob]

all the all time greats with great teams win rings. we measure them by how many they win. lebron only has 2 with his great teams. thats a joke

[longhornfan1234]

Kobe just knows that if he bags on LeBron, people will call him out for Shaq and Pau, but will get more heat for Shaq/Malone/Payton and Pau/Dwight/Nash.


Yeah...right. :lol



He didn't even have to respond to that random dude on Twitter.

[jzek]

Confirmed: LeBron to the Lakers in 2016 :bowdown:

[Spaulding]

Lol kenn got 0 followers

[L.A.Showtime]

Kobe isn't insecure so he has no problem giving props to other players. :applause:

[jzek]

Pau = 21/11/2 on 50% 2010 playoffs




Bosh = 12pts /6 rebounds 2013 and 2014 playoffs

Wade = 15, 4, 4 2013 and 2014 playoffs


Gasol is arguably better than Wade and Bosh COMBINED

It's pathetic when you really compare lebron's teammates to kobe's and jordan's

[3ball]

"@kobebryant - lbj has yet to prove he can win a championship without 2 other superstars".







Kobe's response:

"Lbj doesn't need to prove that @PaulBrahan... I had Shaq + Pau... Mj had Pip... Magic had Worthy + Kareem etc AND we all had great teammates"

https://twitter.com/kobebryant/status/588015896658063362




:applause: Kobe shutting up Lebron haters..


It's confirmed - Kobe has confirmed it - MJ only had 1 superstar, while everyone else got 2.. MJ had the least help.. :confusedshrug:

[jzek]

MJ had the least help

I wouldn't say MJ had the least help. Let's look at his 95-96 Bulls:

* nba title
* 72-10 record in the regular season
* 15-3 record in the playoffs
* all-star mvp, regular season mvp, and finals mvp in jordan
* phil jackson won coach of the year award
* kukoc won the 6th man award
* jordan's 30.4 ppg led the league (was 3rd in steals at 2.2)
* rodman's 14.9 rpg led the league
* jordan and pippen were named to the 1st team all nba team
* jordan, pippen, rodman were named to the 1st team all defensive team
* kerr was second in the league in 3 pt percentage

[3ball]

True, but look at the rest of his team:


Role players have always been, and will always be the most replaceable players on the floor - by definition, it's the star players that aren't replaceable.

Also, other than Wilt's regular season, MJ's statistical production was the highest of anyone ever, even during his 2nd three-peat (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=10918583&postcount=165) - how come everyone else (Kobe, Lebron) gets to produce less than him?

Phil Jackson's system only works with great players - this has now been proven in NY - if you want the triangle to perform at a championship level, you must have MJ, or Shaq/Kobe.. This is now confirmed.





* rodman's 14.9 rpg led the league


Also, regarding Rodman - Jordan won with 12 PPG/10 RPG Horace Grant.. So it's no surprise he won with 3 PPG /14 RPG Rodman - you DO realize Rodman only averaged 3 PPG.. The Bulls were playing 4 on 5 offensively with Rodman, yet they still had the greatest offense of all time - that's what happens when the league's leading scorer plays off-ball, so he can add his scoring to the team seemlessly, without reducing the production of anyone else..

Also, not only did Jordan win with Horace Grant and Rodman (any decent PF sufficed), but Rodman actually performed quite poorly in the playoffs - he only averaged 3 PPG and 8 RPG in the entire 1997 playoffs, and only those same numbers in the 1998 Finals - just complete MIA by Rodman, but most people forget this.

[Mr Feeny]

Only place where he can defend LeBron

:roll:

[FlashDwyaneWade3]

kobe is a lebron stan.
And LeBron is Kobe's #1 stan

http://slamonline.com/online/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/bronhs.jpg

[Lensanity]

The stupidity of Kobe Stans/Lebron haters always amazed me, especially during Lebrons 1st stint in Cleveland

Kobe had Phil Jackson, prime Shaq, refs (2002 and arguably more), Pau, clutch shots from Fisher and Horry, etc. Yet Lebron got RIPPED by everyone because he couldn't win a ring with ****ing No Williams and Mike Brown :lol

Then Kobe had Mike Brown, Dwight Howard, Ron Arrest, Pau Gasol, and some Steve Nash and the NBA had to ferociously rig the Lakers into the playoffs :lol

****ing MJ, the greatest of all time, had Phil, Pippen and Rodman yet Lebron gets shit on because he can't turn shit into gold.

[KembaWalker]

Kobe just a gentleman of the game :bowdown:

[sportjames23]

The stupidity of Kobe Stans/Lebron haters always amazed me, especially during Lebrons 1st stint in Cleveland

Kobe had Phil Jackson, prime Shaq, refs (2002 and arguably more), Pau, clutch shots from Fisher and Horry, etc. Yet Lebron got RIPPED by everyone because he couldn't win a ring with ****ing No Williams and Mike Brown :lol

Then Kobe had Mike Brown, Dwight Howard, Ron Arrest, Pau Gasol, and some Steve Nash and the NBA had to ferociously rig the Lakers into the playoffs :lol

****ing MJ, the greatest of all time, had Phil, Pippen and Rodman yet Lebron gets shit on because he can't turn shit into gold.

He wouldn't get shit on if his fans didn't act like he COULD turn shit into gold.

[SwayDizzle]

Kobe just a gentleman of the game :bowdown:
:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

[Hey Yo]

He wouldn't get shit on if his fans didn't act like he COULD turn shit into gold.
You got that backwards. It's the MJ stans who think MJ did no wrong.

[JebronLames]

Those two players really showed their superstar status this season. Can't wait to see what Bosh and Wade do in the playoffs.

[kennethgriffin]

And LeBron is Kobe's #1 stan

http://slamonline.com/online/wp-content/uploads/2008/12/bronhs.jpg


lol @ the 2001 kobe fro and kicks

[Prometheus]

It's confirmed - Kobe has confirmed it - MJ only had 1 superstar, while everyone else got 2.. MJ had the least help.. :confusedshrug:

Horace Grant > Chris Bosh
Dennis Rodman > Chris Bosh

:confusedshrug:

[3ball]

Horace Grant > Chris Bosh
Dennis Rodman > Chris Bosh

:confusedshrug:
A blatant troll.

Chris Bosh is 19/9 for his career compared to 11/8 for Horace Grant.

MJ three-peated with an 11/8 player as his PF, so that proved he could 3-peat with essentially ANY serviceable PF.

And Rodman was a career 4 PPG scorer who averaged 3/8 in the entire 1997 playoffs, and another 3/8 in the 1998 Finals (that's point/rebounds).

Again, MJ can 3-peat with ANY serviceable PF - he proved that pretty definitively.

[ShawkFactory]

A blatant troll.

Chris Bosh is 19/9 for his career compared to 11/8 for Horace Grant.

MJ three-peated with an 11/8 player as his PF, so that proved he could 3-peat with essentially ANY serviceable PF.

And Rodman was a career 4 PPG scorer who averaged 3/8 in the entire 1997 playoffs, and another 3/8 in the 1998 Finals (that's point/rebounds).

Again, MJ can 3-peat with ANY serviceable PF - he proved that pretty definitively.
Why are you even here? This thread has nothing to do with Jordan

[Beastmode88]

Why are you even here? This thread has nothing to do with Jordan

to 3ball everything is about jordan. he'd probably argue jordan's ***** size over pippen's if he could find a gif.

[3ball]

Why are you even here? This thread has nothing to do with Jordan
Somebody trolled by posting that 19/9 Chris Bosh is less than 11/8 Horace Grant.

I had to set them straight.. :confusedshrug:

[ShawkFactory]

Somebody trolled by posting that 19/9 Chris Bosh is less than 11/8 Horace Grant.

I had to set them straight.. :confusedshrug:
They trolled because you came here with your bullshit.

At least I'm assuming.

[24-Inch_Chrome]

They trolled because you came here with your bullshit.

At least I'm assuming.

That's usually how it goes. :lol

[3ball]

They trolled because you came here with your bullshit.

At least I'm assuming.
Perhaps.. although my stuff isn't bullshit - it's just facts that people prefer not to be aware of.

But bottom line - Kobe just said MJ had the least help - he only had Pippen, while everyone else had TWO superstars to help out.

[ShawkFactory]

Perhaps.. although my stuff isn't bullshit - it's just facts that people prefer not to be aware of.

But bottom line - Kobe just said MJ had the least help - he only had Pippen, while everyone else had TWO superstars to help out.
No, its not facts people would rather not be aware of. It's repetitive and insanely annoying bullshit.

Jordan is the GOAT. We get it.

Shut the fvck up.

[Smoke117]

A blatant troll.

Chris Bosh is 19/9 for his career compared to 11/8 for Horace Grant.

MJ three-peated with an 11/8 player as his PF, so that proved he could 3-peat with essentially ANY serviceable PF.

And Rodman was a career 4 PPG scorer who averaged 3/8 in the entire 1997 playoffs, and another 3/8 in the 1998 Finals (that's point/rebounds).

Again, MJ can 3-peat with ANY serviceable PF - he proved that pretty definitively.

http://i.imgur.com/ts6JK.jpg

[24-Inch_Chrome]

No, its not facts people would rather not be aware of. It's repetitive and insanely annoying bullshit.

Jordan is the GOAT. We get it.

Shut the fvck up.

This. It's been said so many times but for whatever reason it has never sunk in.

[3ball]

No, its not facts people would rather not be aware of. It's repetitive and insanely annoying bullshit.

Jordan is the GOAT. We get it.

Shut the fvck up.


Kobe's revelation that MJ had the least help shouldn't be a surprise - everyone knows he only had Pippen, while everyone else had at least 2 All-NBA players.

Why else would Jordan need to score and produce so much more (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=10668081&postcount=81) than anyone else?

Accordingly, Kobe stating that MJ had the least help shouldn't be like, a surprise or anything that ruffles people's feathers.

[ShawkFactory]

Kobe's revelation that MJ had the least help shouldn't be a surprise - everyone knows he only had Pippen, while everyone else had at least 2 All-NBA players.

Why else would Jordan need to score and produce so much more (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=10668081&postcount=81) than anyone else?

Accordingly, Kobe stating that MJ had the least help shouldn't be like, a surprise or anything that ruffles people's feathers.
Everything you just said proves my point. Shut the fvck up.

[Megabox!]

Kobe and LBJ both respect the shit out of each other, both are living basketball legends, both are champions and MVP's, both are top 10 all-time. So why the hell can't the fans be more respectable towards both of them? :confusedshrug:

[DirkLegend41]

Kobe and LBJ both respect the shit out of each other, both are living basketball legends, both are champions and MVP's, both are top 10 all-time. So why the hell can't the fans be more respectable towards both of them? :confusedshrug:
Cause city boys like Lakers fans don't like small market teams.

[pauk]

Kobe :bowdown: Wasnt even necessary to respond, i mean its obvious its a stupid Lebron hater, but he had enough of these... who most of unfortunately are his fans.... he had to respond...

2011-2014 Wade/Bosh was equivalent of a injury proned Clyde Drexler in around his 30s (Wade) and Brad Daugherty minus the defense (Chris Bosh)..... the rest of that team consisted of nothing but nobodies and some ok spotup shooter... accompanied by a clueless coach....

He came to a Wade team that were either missing the playoffs/fighting for a playoff spot or getting kindof swept in 1st round since 2006, in the freakin EAST.... Bosh coming there wouldnt have made any notable difference....

Its was all because of Lebron...

He had to do just as much and/or even more to win those 2 championships & get that team to those Finals appearances as well as any player in NBA history had to.... you just go ahead and watch those championship runs and you will see....

Now he left that exact Miami team and they recieved Deng/Hassan to "fill his shoes" somewhat and they immediately now cant make the playoffs.... IN THE EAST... you talk about the excuse of Bosh/Wade being injured/missing many games this season? Well guess what, thats exactly how they were/what usually happened to Wade/Bosh since Lebron joined that team...

He joined a team now that has since the moment he left in 2009-10 been one of the lousiest teams in the NBA.... with Kyrie Irving there.... K-Love wouldnt have made any notable difference...... that team has now immediately become one of the "championship favorites"...

Its all because of Lebron....

Any team he has / ever had (even in Cleveland 2004-2009) were called "STACKED".... any team he is ever on is "STACKED"....... simply because of how well his game impacts and makes those others around him shine at what they do....

No my friends..... you put him on the team that has the worst record in the league right now and i can guarantee you they are going to Playoffs, deep into the playoffs.... meanwhile having one of the best records & maybe even the best record in the league to boot.... all of the sudden that team with nobodies is called "STACKED"....

Including making one of those nobodies become "All-stars" for a season by just sitting there and heaving up the wideopen shots he gives....

ITS LEBRON WHO IS STACKED....

[Lensanity]

He wouldn't get shit on if his fans didn't act like he COULD turn shit into gold.
He took those shitty Cavs teams and led them to the best record in the league 2 times. That is incredible. Unfortunately you just cant win in the playoffs with only 1 player. I don't even think you can with prime MJ.

[Solid Snake]

Only place where he can defend LeBron

Oh you mean other than the allstar game?

[pauk]

Its just haters... "butthurtians" as i call them... what the say should be taken with a grain of salt, they know their logic is stupid, i really dont believe they actually believe what they are saying deep down inside...

Because with their logic they are disrespecting ANY player in NBA history, including their favorite player of all time whoever it may be.... you as a Kobe fan who hates Lebron saying something like this to Kobe will only offend him, simply because of the logic....

Because if Lebron "hasnt proved himself championship wise" due to whatever supporting cast then neither has anybody on that top 10 list... ALL of who reached much better supporting casts than Lebron.... ALL... including Kobe...

YES, unlike ALL of them (except Shaq) Lebron didnt get his supporting cast handed to him on a silverplate... instead he had to seek greener pastures after 7 years of patience with rock bottom casts, ALL of those 10 all-time players would have weighed the same exact options in his situation... because if he stayed in Cleveland, Mo Williams would still to this day be his sidekick... and he would retired ringless....

THATS what the Haters wanted..... they know/knew he would spam championships.... even with just MINOR help.... they knew it, because they knew how ***ing good he was..... They "wanted" him (not really, but yea) to stay in Cleveland and win with what would be the worst team/supporting cast to EVER win a championship........ nobody has ever done that....

Thats what hurts...

...and you know what, Lebron still hasnt and will probably never have as good of a supporting cast/team/coach etc. as any of those top 10 players managed to have at one point in their careers.....


I AM NOT DEFENDING LEBRON, **** HIM, I AM DEFENDING BASKETBALL HISTORY

[Im so nba'd out]

so basically the only people who hate each other are their worshippers :lol i mean stans

[SugarHill]

why pauk so mad? lmao

[MJistheGOAT]

We all agree that Lebron is probably the GOAT as getting the most with the least (Cavs). His problem is he has lost series having comparable (2009-2013) or better (2011) supporting casts, another is the lack of competition in East.

But I don

[Milbuck]

"butthurtians" as i call them...
I hope you actually do this irl when your friends clown Lebron :oldlol:

[dubeta]

[QUOTE=MJistheGOAT]We all agree that Lebron is probably the GOAT as getting the most with the least (Cavs). His problem is he has lost series having comparable (2009-2013) or better (2011) supporting casts, another is the lack of competition in East.

But I don

[tmacattack33]

Chris Bosh wasn't available for the 2nd and 3rd round of the 2012 playoffs, and against OKC in the Finals Bosh had just came back from an injury and was hobbled.

So Lebron has already proven he can with with just one star surrounding him.

And the team he beat (OKC) had 3 stars. Or 2 stars and a very good young prospect.

Next.

[SugarHill]

I AM NOT DEFENDING LEBRON, **** HIM, I AM DEFENDING BASKETBALL HISTORY
http://i.minus.com/iG6BTxNnF59Lu.gif

[3ball]

We all agree that Lebron is probably the GOAT as getting the most with the least (Cavs). His problem is he has lost series having comparable (2009-2013) or better (2011) supporting casts, another is the lack of competition in East.


In 2007 specifically, there were zero title-contenders/championship-level teams in the Eastern Conference.. That's literally the only time in history that's happened - in 2008, you had Garnett's Celtics, in 2006, you had Ben Wallace's Pistons.. But nothing in 2007.. That's why Lebron's 2007 run is not respected.. there's a whole thread on it:

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=361889

That's why it was such a shock for him in those 2007 Finals... He didn't know what hit him.. It's called "real competition," instead of the weakest in-conference competition of all time that he was used to.


[quote=MJistheGOAT]

But I don

[chazzy]

Chris Bosh wasn't available for the 2nd and 3rd round of the 2012 playoffs, and against OKC in the Finals Bosh had just came back from an injury and was hobbled.

So Lebron has already proven he can with with just one star surrounding him.

And the team he beat (OKC) had 3 stars. Or 2 stars and a very good young prospect.

Next.
Bosh was a big help in that G7 against Boston, and his spacing against OKC helped big time since Brooks kept Perkins on him. It's a disservice to him to pretend like he wasn't there at all

[MJistheGOAT]

How is his 2009-2010 casts comparable?

Sorry, my bad, I was referring to 2009 series vs Magic AND 2013 series vs Spurs.

[Droid101]

How is his 2009-2010 casts comparable?
No time in history did the best player in the league join up with a top 3 player and a top 10 player to stack the deck, ever.

[Droid101]

Its just haters... "butthurtians" as i call them... what the say should be taken with a grain of salt, they know their logic is stupid, i really dont believe they actually believe what they are saying deep down inside...

Because with their logic they are disrespecting ANY player in NBA history, including their favorite player of all time whoever it may be.... you as a Kobe fan who hates Lebron saying something like this to Kobe will only offend him, simply because of the logic....

Because if Lebron "hasnt proved himself championship wise" due to whatever supporting cast then neither has anybody on that top 10 list... ALL of who reached much better supporting casts than Lebron.... ALL... including Kobe...

YES, unlike ALL of them (except Shaq) Lebron didnt get his supporting cast handed to him on a silverplate... instead he had to seek greener pastures after 7 years of patience with rock bottom casts, ALL of those 10 all-time players would have weighed the same exact options in his situation... because if he stayed in Cleveland, Mo Williams would still to this day be his sidekick... and he would retired ringless....

THATS what the Haters wanted..... they know/knew he would spam championships.... even with just MINOR help.... they knew it, because they knew how ***ing good he was..... They "wanted" him (not really, but yea) to stay in Cleveland and win with what would be the worst team/supporting cast to EVER win a championship........ nobody has ever done that....

Thats what hurts...

...and you know what, Lebron still hasnt and will probably never have as good of a supporting cast/team/coach etc. as any of those top 10 players managed to have at one point in their careers.....


I AM NOT DEFENDING LEBRON, **** HIM, I AM DEFENDING BASKETBALL HISTORY
http://i.imgur.com/NjrwffZ.jpg

[Lensanity]

In 2007 specifically, there were zero title-contenders/championship-level teams in the Eastern Conference.. That's literally the only time in history that's happened - in 2008, you had Garnett's Celtics, in 2006, you had Ben Wallace's Pistons.. But nothing in 2007.. That's why Lebron's 2007 run is not respected.. there's a whole thread on it:

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=361889

That's why it was such a shock for him in those 2007 Finals... He didn't know what hit him.. It's called "real competition," instead of the weakest in-conference competition of all time that he was used to.



Jordan didn't play in 94-95'... Regarding Duncan in 03.. that's true, very little top-tier talent.
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Bullshit. The Pistons were legit contenders in 2007 and were expected to beat the Cavs in the ECF but Lebron went absolutely nuts on them.

[Droid101]

Bullshit. The Pistons were legit contenders in 2007 and were expected to beat the Cavs in the ECF but Lebron went absolutely nuts on them.
Pistons sucked in 2007, it was the beginning of their decline into shittown.

[knicksman]

kobe isnt insecure to put down bran. He has 5/7

[Smoke117]

Bullshit. The Pistons were legit contenders in 2007 and were expected to beat the Cavs in the ECF but Lebron went absolutely nuts on them.

Lebron averaged 25.7ppg on 45%fg...not exactly going nuts. That the Piston splayed underwhelming is what I remember most about that series. They should have never lost that series...embarrassing.

[Chadwin]

94 Hakeem
03 Duncan
75 Barry

stfu Kobe

[SouBeachTalents]

94 Hakeem
03 Duncan
75 Barry

stfu Kobe

'11 Dirk belongs among those players too imo

[MJistheGOAT]

In 2007 specifically, there were zero title-contenders/championship-level teams in the Eastern Conference.. That's literally the only time in history that's happened - in 2008, you had Garnett's Celtics, in 2006, you had Ben Wallace's Pistons.. But nothing in 2007.. That's why Lebron's 2007 run is not respected.. there's a whole thread on it:

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=361889

That's why it was such a shock for him in those 2007 Finals... He didn't know what hit him.. It's called "real competition," instead of the weakest in-conference competition of all time that he was used to.

2007 Pistons were comparable to Cavs, but a tier below a lot of West teams. I was thinking more in 2008-2010 season with Cavs (elite regular seasons and a good fight against Celtics, Magic with a well constructed team but lacking star power)Jordan didn't play in 94-95'... Regarding Duncan in 03.. that's true, very little top-tier talent.
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One thing doesn

[34-24 Footwork]

Lol @ kobe being all diplomatic after embarrassing born in the all star game. Seems like a cool dude overall. Bran fans angry still.....lol

[houston]

kobe is that dude

[KembaWalker]

Kobe trying to unite insidehoops as one :applause:

Kobe 4 President

[9erempiree]

Even though Kobe had Pau, that Laker team is one of the worse teams of all championship teams. Kobe was carrying the load and Pau was there to help.

Nobody ever thinks of them as one of the greatest teams ever because they were pretty piss poor compared to other great teams in history. The Bulls were loaded, Magic's Lakers were loaded and the Miami Heat were loaded too.

You cannot just compare superstars by saying Player A had Player B. Go check the rest of the lineup and you guys will clearly see how loaded Lebron's teams were. Also, in Kobe's era the GM put together these teams.

The inmates are now running the asylum in today's era and they all are good friends.

[LongLiveTheKing]

Even though Kobe had Pau, that Laker team is one of the worse teams of all championship teams. Kobe was carrying the load and Pau was there to help.

Nobody ever thinks of them as one of the greatest teams ever because they were pretty piss poor compared to other great teams in history. The Bulls were loaded, Magic's Lakers were loaded and the Miami Heat were loaded too.

You cannot just compare superstars by saying Player A had Player B. Go check the rest of the lineup and you guys will clearly see how loaded Lebron's teams were. Also, in Kobe's era the GM put together these teams.

The inmates are now running the asylum in today's era and they all are good friends.
Kobe disagrees with you.

[9erempiree]

Only thing I agree with Kobe is when he said he would kick Michael Jordan's ass. You guys can agree with this comment too.

[sportjames23]

Only thing I agree with Kobe is when he said he would kick Michael Jordan's ass. You guys can agree with this comment too.


Kobe was high as **** that day.

[NuggetsFan]

Pistons sucked in 2007, it was the beginning of their decline into shittown.

53 wins. 2 losses on the way to ECF. Next season they won 59 games and made the ECF again. Won 2 games against the Celtics. It was the season after that they declined, not 2007. Not sure why you'd think that. Reason they declined was because they traded Chauncey away for Iverson and had all that drama. Hamilton didn't even start all year. That along with age and they still managed to win 39 games.

Didn't that '07 team have an old ass Chris Webber still putting in work too? Laughable saying the Pistons "sucked". They'll get underrated by the casual fan going forward because they had no flashy superstars.

[FrenchDude]

53 wins. 2 losses on the way to ECF. Next season they won 59 games and made the ECF again. Won 2 games against the Celtics. It was the season after that they declined, not 2007. Not sure why you'd think that. Reason they declined was because they traded Chauncey away for Iverson and had all that drama. Hamilton didn't even start all year. That along with age and they still managed to win 39 games.

Didn't that '07 team have an old ass Chris Webber still putting in work too? Laughable saying the Pistons "sucked". They'll get underrated by the casual fan going forward because they had no flashy superstars.

Exactly, they had Webber.

How can people said LeBron didn't go nuts on the Pistons?
Still remember that game at Detroit where he scored the last points of his team, including the game winning lay up. Announcers were like "This is Jordanesque" if I remember correctly.

[Magic 32]

53 wins. 2 losses on the way to ECF. Next season they won 59 games and made the ECF again. Won 2 games against the Celtics. It was the season after that they declined, not 2007. Not sure why you'd think that. Reason they declined was because they traded Chauncey away for Iverson and had all that drama. Hamilton didn't even start all year. That along with age and they still managed to win 39 games.

Didn't that '07 team have an old ass Chris Webber still putting in work too? Laughable saying the Pistons "sucked". They'll get underrated by the casual fan going forward because they had no flashy superstars.

http://s9.postimg.org/8wl094snz/345635.png

http://apps.startribune.com/blogs/user_images/ajrayno_1364589457_ajrayno_1364582960_Flip.jpg

Flip turned them into a regular season team. But the defensive lockdown magic was gone.

When Lebron fans talk about the 2007, they pretend that he beat the team that use to keep teams in the 50's during the 04 and 05 playoffs.

[JohnFreeman]

Only place where he can defend LeBron
:roll:

[JohnFreeman]

I feel like we should all just hate Durant. Beta bitch.