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1987_Lakers
04-15-2015, 12:32 AM
This season from 3 point land...

Curry: 44.2 3PT% | 3.6 makes per game
Thompson: 43.5 3PT% | 3.1 makes per game

Both are #1 & #2 in 3 pointers made in the NBA. Amazing stuff.

plowking
04-15-2015, 12:34 AM
Steve Nash and Raja Bell in 07-08?

Heavincent
04-15-2015, 12:34 AM
Nope. Curry is having the best shooting season ever, and it isn't even close.

Legends66NBA7
04-15-2015, 12:35 AM
Probably will.

navy
04-15-2015, 12:41 AM
Curry and Klay have great form and quick releases.

Theoretically, if a 7 footer like Durant or Dirk type comes into the league with a quick release and good form then you could surpass these two as they literally wouldnt be phased.

SaltyMeatballs
04-15-2015, 12:47 AM
Nope. Curry is having the best shooting season ever, and it isn't even close.
Okay GTFO. You're using that wayyyyyy too losely.

Steve Nash (2007): 53/45/90 shooting
Steve Nash (2008): 50/47/91 shooting
Kyle Korver (2015): 49/49/90 shooting
Dirk Nowitzki (2007): 50/42/90 shooting
Tim Legler (1996): 51/52/86 shooting
Kevin Durant (2013): 51/42/90 shooting
Reggie Miller (1990): 51/41/87 shooting
Reggie Miller (1994): 50/42/91 shooting
Ray Allen (2009): 48/41/95 shooting
Ray Allen (2001): 48/43/89 shooting
Ray Allen (2011): 49/44/88 shooting

There's more. Your homer bar just SHATTERED the scale.

Kobe_6/8
04-15-2015, 12:47 AM
They may be the best 3-point shooting backcourt we'll see for a long time.

MavsSuperFan
04-15-2015, 12:53 AM
Steve Nash and Raja Bell in 07-08?
you have to factor in volume though

Heavincent
04-15-2015, 01:19 AM
Okay GTFO. You're using that wayyyyyy too losely.

Steve Nash (2007): 53/45/90 shooting
Steve Nash (2008): 50/47/91 shooting
Kyle Korver (2015): 49/49/90 shooting
Dirk Nowitzki (2007): 50/42/90 shooting
Tim Legler (1996): 51/52/86 shooting
Kevin Durant (2013): 51/42/90 shooting
Reggie Miller (1990): 51/41/87 shooting
Reggie Miller (1994): 50/42/91 shooting
Ray Allen (2009): 48/41/95 shooting
Ray Allen (2001): 48/43/89 shooting
Ray Allen (2011): 49/44/88 shooting

There's more. Your homer bar just SHATTERED the scale.

Steph Curry has made 284 3's this season, the most in a season by FAR. The next closest player is...Stephen Curry.

JimmyMcAdocious
04-15-2015, 02:33 AM
Maybe if Nash and Ray went back in time and teamed up.

How about someone create a better shooting back court in NBA history? Single season, so 2004 x and y, not just two random people at their peak (unless their peak was the same year).

Akrazotile
04-15-2015, 02:37 AM
As a teammate tandem? Its def the best ever seen so far.

Uncle Drew
04-15-2015, 02:38 AM
Steph Curry has made 284 3's this season, the most in a season by FAR. The next closest player is...Stephen Curry.
Made 3's is bs. Different era's, different playing styles. Curry attempts over 600 3's per season, whereas someone like Mark Price, who wasn't a bad shooter himself, attempted only 300 (at max) in a season.

24-Inch_Chrome
04-15-2015, 02:39 AM
It might be the best shooting back-court ever but I'm still taking Nash over Curry as a shooter.

navy
04-15-2015, 02:40 AM
It might be the best shooting back-court ever but I'm still taking Nash over Curry as a shooter.
Stop it. Nash never shot like Curry.

BasedTom
04-15-2015, 02:43 AM
Gilbert Arenas comeback?

Achilleas
04-15-2015, 02:43 AM
they are the best shooting backcourt ever until now
but now all the new playes shoot more 3's and they are better in shooting than players from previous years,so in next 10 years maybe we will see some players like klay and curry
but the possibility to surpass them is similiar as 3ball not posting gifs of mj :confusedshrug:

24-Inch_Chrome
04-15-2015, 02:45 AM
Stop it. Nash never shot like Curry.

I'm still taking Nash over Curry as a shooter/offensive PG. :confusedshrug:

4 50-40-90 seasons and a career 49/43/90 line while leading league-best offenses is more than enough of a r

1987_Lakers
04-15-2015, 02:48 AM
Made 3's is bs. Different era's, different playing styles. Curry attempts over 600 3's per season, whereas someone like Mark Price, who wasn't a bad shooter himself, attempted only 300 (at max) in a season.

Stop it.

Price was a career 40% 3 point shooter and he played in a chunk of seasons when the NBA shortened the 3 point line.

Curry is a 44% 3 point shooter and this is his 3rd straight year leading the NBA in 3 pointers made.

Uncle Drew
04-15-2015, 02:49 AM
Stop it.

Price was a career 40% 3 point shooter and he played in a chunk of seasons when the NBA shortened the 3 point line.

Curry is a 44% 3 point shooter and this is his 3rd straight year leading the NBA in 3 pointers made.
I'm not comparing the shooter, I'm comparing the era's. Price is just an example.

navy
04-15-2015, 02:52 AM
[QUOTE=24-Inch_Chrome]I'm still taking Nash over Curry as a shooter/offensive PG. :confusedshrug:

4 50-40-90 seasons and a career 49/43/90 line while leading league-best offenses is more than enough of a r

Im Still Ballin
04-15-2015, 02:53 AM
Curry is the best 3pt shooter

Nash is the best Shooter of all time

He could score from anywhere

When they left him open he killed them every time

When they played him close he found an open man

When he drove in he found a shot over taller defenders

24-Inch_Chrome
04-15-2015, 03:01 AM
Curry can pull up from 30 and nobody will say anything. In fact, it's a shock when he misses. Nash may have been the better point guard ( He wasnt), not debating that.

But when it comes to shooting Curry is the GOAT.

And Nash couldn't? The guy gets slept on to such a ridiculous extent on this board, too many people believe that his shots were a) easy or b) created by someone else. If we're gonna talk creating one's own shot, Curry's FGs/3PTFGs have actually been assisted on much more than Nash's as far as career rates.

http://i.imgur.com/JJhdeMY.jpg

Unparalleled offensive impact from a PG.

Nash was the better offensive PG. :confusedshrug:

kennethgriffin
04-15-2015, 03:12 AM
kobe and penburthy

brain drain
04-15-2015, 03:21 AM
And Nash couldn't? The guy gets slept on to such a ridiculous extent on this board, too many people believe that his shots were a) easy or b) created by someone else. If we're gonna talk creating one's own shot, Curry's FGs/3PTFGs have actually been assisted on much more than Nash's as far as career rates.

http://i.imgur.com/JJhdeMY.jpg

Unparalleled offensive impact from a PG.

Nash was the better offensive PG. :confusedshrug:

Those are team stats - can't use those to compare who's the better shooter between two players.

Besides that, Nash was undeniably one of the best shooters ever, but as far as 3 pointers go, you've got to hand it to Curry.

Curry already has 4 seasons > 44% 3pt% , Nash had 3 in his whole career.
Nash had 10 seasons of < 42% 3pt%, Curry's worst season was 42.4%.

And Curry has been doing it while attempting twice as many attempts. Those are the facts, and those are clearly on Curry's side.


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And yes, maybe Nash could've done something similar if he had tried to take as many 3-pointers as Curry and if the system was geared to it. But it never happened so we'll never know. And we have to make our judgements on what actually has happened ( see above).

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Also, there's absolutely a case to be made for Nash being the better complete offensive player and better at running a team offense. But then again, that doesn't say anything about who's the better 3pt shooter.

Im Still Ballin
04-15-2015, 03:23 AM
Shooting isn't just 3's you morons

Akrazotile
04-15-2015, 03:46 AM
Shooting isn't just 3's you morons


Thats true.

Best shooting backcourt ever gots to be Arenas and Crittenton.


Bang bang nikka.

Im Still Ballin
04-15-2015, 03:47 AM
What's up Chris

Akrazotile
04-15-2015, 03:51 AM
What's up Chris


Aint much baby.

Just on my Casey Clay trailer trash grind, ya feel meh??

Sarcastic
04-15-2015, 03:58 AM
Okay GTFO. You're using that wayyyyyy too losely.

Steve Nash (2007): 53/45/90 shooting
Steve Nash (2008): 50/47/91 shooting
Kyle Korver (2015): 49/49/90 shooting
Dirk Nowitzki (2007): 50/42/90 shooting
Tim Legler (1996): 51/52/86 shooting
Kevin Durant (2013): 51/42/90 shooting
Reggie Miller (1990): 51/41/87 shooting
Reggie Miller (1994): 50/42/91 shooting
Ray Allen (2009): 48/41/95 shooting
Ray Allen (2001): 48/43/89 shooting
Ray Allen (2011): 49/44/88 shooting

There's more. Your homer bar just SHATTERED the scale.


You forgot Larry Bird's 50/40/90 season with 28 ppg,

Akrazotile
04-15-2015, 04:00 AM
You forgot Larry Bird's 50/40/90 season with 28 ppg,

Stop.

Bird would be a poor man's Luke Walton in today's game.

He'd literally struggle against a good high school team.

Random_Guy
04-15-2015, 05:33 AM
yeah, lol curry could pull up near midcourt and people would still think it would go in lol

qrich
04-15-2015, 05:42 AM
Possibly not, but courts like Nash/JJ (put up 46/48 next to Nash, with 17 ppg) can definitely be argued.


Okay GTFO. You're using that wayyyyyy too losely.

Steve Nash (2007): 53/45/90 shooting
Steve Nash (2008): 50/47/91 shooting
Kyle Korver (2015): 49/49/90 shooting
Dirk Nowitzki (2007): 50/42/90 shooting
Tim Legler (1996): 51/52/86 shooting
Kevin Durant (2013): 51/42/90 shooting
Reggie Miller (1990): 51/41/87 shooting
Reggie Miller (1994): 50/42/91 shooting
Ray Allen (2009): 48/41/95 shooting
Ray Allen (2001): 48/43/89 shooting
Ray Allen (2011): 49/44/88 shooting

There's more. Your homer bar just SHATTERED the scale.

Don't bother with him, dude is just a bandwagon hopper that doesn't know very much.

SHAQisGOAT
04-15-2015, 08:36 AM
Don't really like when people talk about shooting then only mention 3pt shooting... Although Curry and Klay are terrific overall shooters ofc.

They're probably the GOAT shooting backcourt yea, but West and Goodrich have something to say about that... Jerry/Gail didn't play with the 3pt line to "prove it" and probably didn't have as good overall %'s (meaning from the FT% and such too) but they were great overall shooters as well and were scoring more points.



Stop.

Bird would be a poor man's Luke Walton in today's game.

He'd literally struggle against a good high school team.

http://i.imgur.com/2xVCzNW.gif

Unfunny trolling.

Akrazotile
04-15-2015, 09:35 AM
Don't really like when people talk about shooting then only mention 3pt shooting... Although Curry and Klay are terrific overall shooters ofc.

They're probably the GOAT shooting backcourt yea, but West and Goodrich have something to say about that... Jerry/Gail didn't play with the 3pt line to "prove it" and probably didn't have as good overall %'s (meaning from the FT% and such too) but they were great overall shooters as well and were scoring more points.




http://i.imgur.com/2xVCzNW.gif

Unfunny trolling.


Homie, lets be real about this.

The game has changed too much. People are way more athletic nowadays. Bird would sit the bench in the WNBA.

Middle schoolers would dunk on him and embarrass him. People would cringe just watching him attempt to play competitive basketball in this era.

It is what it is.

24-Inch_Chrome
04-15-2015, 11:21 AM
Those are team stats - can't use those to compare who's the better shooter between two players.

Besides that, Nash was undeniably one of the best shooters ever, but as far as 3 pointers go, you've got to hand it to Curry.

Curry already has 4 seasons > 44% 3pt% , Nash had 3 in his whole career.
Nash had 10 seasons of < 42% 3pt%, Curry's worst season was 42.4%.

And Curry has been doing it while attempting twice as many attempts. Those are the facts, and those are clearly on Curry's side.


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And yes, maybe Nash could've done something similar if he had tried to take as many 3-pointers as Curry and if the system was geared to it. But it never happened so we'll never know. And we have to make our judgements on what actually has happened ( see above).

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Also, there's absolutely a case to be made for Nash being the better complete offensive player and better at running a team offense. But then again, that doesn't say anything about who's the better 3pt shooter.

Look at how that ORTG changes when he's on/off the court. That's his impact. Compare Phoenix's ORTG before he got there, Nash was what turned that team into an offensive juggernaut. I posted that Nash was the better offensive point guard, hence the ORTG/impact chart. Shooting was addressed above.

I really don't. Curry has been in the league for 6 years, Nash played for 18. I can't remember the last time (in any sport) where 6 years was enough to declare someone the GOAT anything with real certainty.

14/18 seasons with a 40%+ mark from deep, give me that consistency.

I don't buy the volume argument as some be all end all.. It's not like Nash is taking 50 3PAs/season, past a certain point it becomes completely reasonable to extrapolate. Posting a 43% career 3PT% and finishing a career as having made the 15th most 3PT FGs ever should be qualification enough.

What actually happened: 4 50/40/90 seasons, a career 49/43/90 line, 14/18 40% from deep seasons, 60.5 TS%. All-time leader in FT%, 15th all-time in 3PM, 10th all-time in 3P%, all of which came through an 18 year career. I'm still taking Nash > Curry as a shooter for elite consistency and as an offensive PG in general for overall offensive impact, though they are separate categories.

I've mentioned this before, I think that Curry probably will go on to build a career that will establish him as the GOAT shooter...but 6 seasons isn't large enough of a sample to do that. Especially not when there are players who put up elite numbers through their entire careers. If someone wants to argue that he's the #1 shooter, that's your opinion, whatever, but when I see something like "it's not even close," that just pisses me off. It's flat-out disrespectful (not aimed at you, I may not agree with you but you're perfectly entitled to that opinion, and you've got a case for it :cheers: ).

As a side note, as I was looking through the 3PT% charts, I noticed Drazen Petrovic's name....there's a guy who could have given both of them a run for their money. What a shame.

iamgine
04-15-2015, 11:42 AM
I will say that Curry is very clearly better than Nash at shooting. That's no knock on Nash, who probably was equal or even better at open shots. Nash pick his spots and get great shots. The difference lies at their repertoire. Curry knock down wide open, half open, hand on face, quick as cheetah release, any distance, any kind of shot with consistency. Nash couldn't do that.

I would still take Nash though over Curry as my PG without hesitance.

sundizz
04-15-2015, 11:51 AM
Steve Nash was one of my favorite players (as was pretty much every great shooter like Peja etc) and it honestly isn't even close in terms of straight up shooting.

Nash could score just as well as Curry if not better though. People really underestimate Nash's ability to create separation (one of the most important parts of scoring). I actually think Nash did a better job of creating separation/getting to the rim than Curry by a reasonable margin. You isolate Nash in a one on one and he got to the rim against anyone every single time. He also had a better ability to finish close by because he knew how to take small steps and stay grounded (body control).

But, straight up shooting from 19 to 30 feet = Curry by a ridiculously large margin over anyone in the history of the game. Curry is as dominant a 19-30 foot player as Shaq was a 0-3 foot player. Can't say more than that.

bizil
04-15-2015, 01:49 PM
I don't think we will. For starters, both are alpha dog kind of scorers. We all know Steph is an alpha dog for sure. However, I think Klay is an alpha dog as well. He just happens to play with a better one in Curry. The fact that both can DOMINATE a game shooting the 3 separates them from the other backcourts.

And when it comes to backcourts in general, I think they can become the greatest of all time. If they win some rings and stay together, they could go down as the greatest. And of course peak wise they are a threat to be the best backcourt of all time! No reason why they couldn't be up there with Isiah-Dumars, West-Goodrich, Clyde-Pearl, or Cousy-Sharman

jongib369
04-15-2015, 02:13 PM
Homie, lets be real about this.

The game has changed too much. People are way more athletic nowadays. Bird would sit the bench in the WNBA.

Middle schoolers would dunk on him and embarrass him. People would cringe just watching him attempt to play competitive basketball in this era.

It is what it is.
Ban worthy ignorance/trolling. Waste of posting space

Chadwin
04-15-2015, 02:42 PM
Nash/Wang 01-02 :lol

Chadwin
04-15-2015, 02:49 PM
Korver and Carroll this year

SaltyMeatballs
04-15-2015, 02:56 PM
Steph Curry has made 284 3's this season, the most in a season by FAR. The next closest player is...Stephen Curry.
This is about having a great shooting season. It's not all about how many threes a player has made, stupid ass. You said Curry is having the greatest shooting season of all time and then you said it's not even. I hope you were joking because there are tons of guys who've come close or even did better.