Miami Heat officially eliminated from the playoffs

[dubeta]

Didnt see a thread about it.


With Indiana's win, Miami has mathematically been eliminated from the playoffs.

Gone from playing in the Finals to this.


Sad news, better luck next year. :(

[L.A.Showtime]

There was one. LeBron curse continues.

[Dr.J4ever]

Damn, I was rooting for them so we could get their 1st round pick. Now we will need a minor Lottery miracle to get it.:facepalm

[SaltyMeatballs]

Watch them get the 1st pick in this years draft :lol

[plowking]

Watch them get the 1st pick in this years draft :lol

I'm hoping it happens.

Imagine Okafor next to Whiteside. :eek:

Get rid of Bosh and build around the two beasts.

[hawksdogsbraves]

Really top notch coaching job by Spo this year, showing that it wasn't just LeBron carrying that team :applause:

[Dr.J4ever]

Watch them get the 1st pick in this years draft :lol

That wouldn't be so bad for us. I believe that would bump off the Lakers to 6, and would give us that pick. I may be wrong though.

[coin24]

Op still a Virgin :oldlol:

[Kobe_6/8]

2010 Cavs
61-21
Leading Scorer: LeBron 29.7

2011 Cavs
19-63
Leading Scorer: Antawn Jamison 18.0


2014 Heat
54-28
Leading Scorer: LeBron 27.1

2015 Heat
36-45
Leading Scorer: Dwyane Wade 21.5


The benefits of LeBron :lebronamazed:

http://i.imgur.com/EucIfYY.gif

[SouBeachTalents]

I'm hoping it happens.

Imagine Okafor next to Whiteside. :eek:

Get rid of Bosh and build around the two beasts.

Who's taking that contract doe?

[305Baller]

I hope the Heat keep their pick. Next year we will be back for a deep run.

[305Baller]

2010 Cavs
61-21
Leading Scorer: LeBron 29.7

2011 Cavs
19-63
Leading Scorer: Antawn Jamison 18.0


2014 Heat
54-28
Leading Scorer: LeBron 27.1

2015 Heat
36-45
Leading Scorer: Dwyane Wade 21.5


The benefits of LeBron :lebronamazed:

http://i.imgur.com/EucIfYY.gif

LeBron and his voodoo = best player in the game.

[Budadiiii]

Op still a Virgin :oldlol:
:roll:

Some things NEVER change.

[Nash]

still don't understand how you don't make the playoffs in the east by losing lebron and adding dragic, whiteside and deng.

[oh the horror]

2010 Cavs
61-21
Leading Scorer: LeBron 29.7

2011 Cavs
19-63
Leading Scorer: Antawn Jamison 18.0


2014 Heat
54-28
Leading Scorer: LeBron 27.1

2015 Heat
36-45
Leading Scorer: Dwyane Wade 21.5


The benefits of LeBron :lebronamazed:

http://i.imgur.com/EucIfYY.gif




If you truly believe one single player does that for a team then ish has the dumbest fu*king people posting on here humanly imaginable.



I fear posting here that one day my IQ will be lowered by just having to shift through the shit posts that some of you crap out from your limp wristed hands.



Christ help you son.

[oh the horror]

still don't understand how you don't make the playoffs in the east by losing lebron and adding dragic, whiteside and deng.




im not sure what you expected from Deng. He's an additional role player that's capable of things here and there at this point in his career. He's not Bulls Deng anymore.


Dragic has had no training camp, and just came in during a time when Bosh went out.


Whiteside has talent. But whiteside doesn't have experience. It's that simple.


Wade missed a good portion of games. And when Bosh went down they were done.

[Kobe_6/8]

still don't understand how you don't make the playoffs in the east by losing lebron and adding dragic, whiteside and deng.

Losing Bosh didn't help, plus Wade had a career low MPG this season and he's getting older.

It should have been his time to shine with no Bosh/LeBron on the court for the first time in years.

[coin24]

still don't understand how you don't make the playoffs in the east by losing lebron and adding dragic, whiteside and deng.


Really pauk?

[OnFire]

Really top notch coaching job by Spo this year, showing that it wasn't just LeBron carrying that team :applause:

Hawks have 1 good year in 20 years and their fans talk shit... 30 different starting lineups for the Heat. I'm sure Popovich could win 60 games with a roster full of D-leaguers and resorting to starting front court of Henry Walker and an injured udonis haslem or birdman...

[plowking]

Who's taking that contract doe?

Knicks.

[plowking]

still don't understand how you don't make the playoffs in the east by losing lebron and adding dragic, whiteside and deng.

Shouldn't you be upset?

Aren't Bosh and Dragic some of your favorite players? That'd kinda make you a Heat fan.

[hawksdogsbraves]

Hawks have 1 good year in 20 years and their fans talk shit... 30 different starting lineups for the Heat. I'm sure Popovich could win 60 games with a roster full of D-leaguers and resorting to starting front court of Henry Walker and an injured udonis haslem or birdman...

Not 60 but he would've won at least 40 in this East.

Probably more actually, even with Bosh going down there's no way Pop, (or any other good coach) would do this poorly with a lineup featuring Dragic, Wade, Deng, and Whiteside.

Brad Stevens just got the 7 seed with Brandon Bass and Tyler Zeller starting in the frontcourt for crying out loud :oldlol:

[outbreak]

still don't understand how you don't make the playoffs in the east by losing lebron and adding dragic, whiteside and deng.
If they hadn't had injuries they probably would have snuck in.

[Roundball_Rock]

The Heat slipped 18 games without LeBron (and went from 1st to 10th in the East) despite, as noted earlier in this thread, adding Whiteside, Dragic, and Deng along with a rejuvenated Wade. Even with the Bosh health issue--and their record prior and subsequent to his departure was very similar--they should have made the playoffs in a conference where 41 wins can get you 6th place.

Still, it is pretty much par for the course for what happens when a team loses a GOAT-caliber player.

04' Lakers with Shaq: 56 wins, NBA finals.
Without Shaq: -22 wins, missed playoffs.

96' Magic with Shaq: 60 wins, ECF.
Without Shaq: -15 wins, first round.

93' Bulls with Jordan: 57 wins, champs.
Without Jordan: -2 wins, ECSF.

91' Lakers with Magic: 58 wins, NBA finals.
Without Magic: -15 wins, first round.

88' Celtics with Bird: 57 wins, ECF.
89' Celtics: -15 wins, first round (Bird played 6 games).

73' Lakers with Wilt: 60 wins, champs.
Without Wilt: -13 wins, first round.

69' Celtics with Russell: 48 wins, champs.
Without Russell: -14 wins, missed playoffs.

So to recap in these cases the decline in wins were -18 (Heat), -22, -15, -2, -15, -15, -13, -14. Pretty consistent.

[Spurs m8]

I honestly can't believe people thought they'd make it.

Was never gonna happen

[SwishSquared]

I'm not shocked, as I thought they would at best be a #5 seed going into the season. Bosh's injury wrecked them imo, even if their record with him wasn't amazing. McBob's knee injury certainly didn't help. Still feel that with Bosh & Dragic, they could have pushed even for the #6 seed and been a tough out. Next year they'll need a better bench via shrewd signings and/or their current young guys to take a leap (Shabazz, Johnson, Ennis, etc.).

So, if Heat beat the 76ers, Magic beat Nets, and Pacers beat the Grizz, then technically the Heat have the #11 draft position right (or are the 10/11 ping pong balls evenly split amongst the Nets/Heat)? If Nets win, then Heat are at #10 and in good position to keep that pick right? I think if Nets and Grizz win, then Brooklyn actually takes that #8 seed due to their tie breaker, but I'm not 100% sure. If Heat lose to 76ers (lolz), then they retain that #10 lottery position.

Who do you think Miami departs with this season? Trade Chalmers and Birdman to cut back on salary and get into position to use more than the mini-MLE? I'm guessing Deng and Wade opt out and sign 2 year deals again, with opt outs next summer.

Strategically, should Heat try to hold onto their pick this draft? In doing so, unless they acquire another first rounder from some team, they won't be able to trade a 1st round pick until they convey a pick to the 76ers. That would limit future flexibility somewhat. Then again, #10 in this draft should net them a nice rotation guy. I don't know how much the Heat care to draft guys with a win-now roster construction.

I do like their presumed top 6 guys though in this conference. Hope that they're healthy next season- could be a really fun team to watch.

[97 bulls]

The Heat slipped 18 games without LeBron (and went from 1st to 10th in the East) despite, as noted earlier in this thread, adding Whiteside, Dragic, and Deng along with a rejuvenated Wade. Even with the Bosh health issue--and their record prior and subsequent to his departure was very similar--they should have made the playoffs in a conference where 41 wins can get you 6th place.

Still, it is pretty much par for the course for what happens when a team loses a GOAT-caliber player.

04' Lakers with Shaq: 56 wins, NBA finals.
Without Shaq: -22 wins, missed playoffs.

96' Magic with Shaq: 60 wins, ECF.
Without Shaq: -15 wins, first round.

93' Bulls with Jordan: 57 wins, champs.
Without Jordan: -2 wins, ECSF.

91' Lakers with Magic: 58 wins, NBA finals.
Without Magic: -15 wins, first round.

88' Celtics with Bird: 57 wins, ECF.
89' Celtics: -15 wins, first round (Bird played 6 games).

73' Lakers with Wilt: 60 wins, champs.
Without Wilt: -13 wins, first round.

69' Celtics with Russell: 48 wins, champs.
Without Russell: -14 wins, missed playoffs.

So to recap in these cases the decline in wins were -18 (Heat), -22, -15, -2, -15, -15, -13, -14. Pretty consistent.
Lol. I see what you did there

[SouBeachTalents]

The Heat slipped 18 games without LeBron (and went from 1st to 10th in the East) despite, as noted earlier in this thread, adding Whiteside, Dragic, and Deng along with a rejuvenated Wade. Even with the Bosh health issue--and their record prior and subsequent to his departure was very similar--they should have made the playoffs in a conference where 41 wins can get you 6th place.

Still, it is pretty much par for the course for what happens when a team loses a GOAT-caliber player.

04' Lakers with Shaq: 56 wins, NBA finals.
Without Shaq: -22 wins, missed playoffs.

96' Magic with Shaq: 60 wins, ECF.
Without Shaq: -15 wins, first round.

93' Bulls with Jordan: 57 wins, champs.
Without Jordan: -2 wins, ECSF.

91' Lakers with Magic: 58 wins, NBA finals.
Without Magic: -15 wins, first round.

88' Celtics with Bird: 57 wins, ECF.
89' Celtics: -15 wins, first round (Bird played 6 games).

73' Lakers with Wilt: 60 wins, champs.
Without Wilt: -13 wins, first round.

69' Celtics with Russell: 48 wins, champs.
Without Russell: -14 wins, missed playoffs.

So to recap in these cases the decline in wins were -18 (Heat), -22, -15, -2, -15, -15, -13, -14. Pretty consistent.

That is certainly not consistent with the rest. Same goes for when the Bucks lost Kareem and finished with the same exact record. Also, you forgot the Cavs 42 game drop without LeBron

[Roundball_Rock]

I honestly can't believe people thought they'd make it.

Was never gonna happen

Why not? People as recently as 10 months ago were calling them the "most stacked team of all-time." If a historically stacked team loses one player it should still remain elite--especially if it lost one player but added Whiteside, Dragic, Deng and saw a resurgence from Wade. People will invoke injuries but they were a 0.400-0.450 team all year, even when Bosh and Wade were both playing. Moreover, every team has injuries. Chicago will win 50 games with Rose, Butler, Noah, Dunleavy, and Taj all missing significant time. Even when Rose, Butler, and Taj were all out at the same time the Bulls remained semi-competitive. So I fail to see why Miami could not survive losing Bosh for the final 1/3 of the season, especially since that coincided with the addition of Dragic and a great post all-star break run by Wade.


That is certainly not consistent with the rest. Same goes for when the Bucks lost Kareem and finished with the same exact record. Also, you forgot the Cavs 42 game drop without LeBron

The Bucks got an all-star, 16/11 center, the guys who were that year's #2 and #8 picks for KAJ. That level of talent was added yet they still could not improve. Remember, this was KAJ in his peak years being traded so he commanded a high price. Imagine a similar trade today involving LeBron or Davis or Westbrook.

[FLDFSU]

Nearly every team in the East playoffs has suffered major injuries to their starting line up and managed to make it.

What is Spo's excuse when the Pacer lost George? Or Bucks lost Parker?

Boston has no business being in the playoffs before Miami.

And that says nothing of teams like the Bulls who hasn't been the picture of health this season sill managing to get the 3rd seed.

[J Shuttlesworth]

Damn, the Pacers finally eliminated the Heat from the playoffs

[plowking]

Damn, the Pacers finally eliminated the Heat from the playoffs

F*ck u bro.

Negged.

[Rose'sACL]

If you truly believe one single player does that for a team then ish has the dumbest fu*king people posting on here humanly imaginable.



I fear posting here that one day my IQ will be lowered by just having to shift through the shit posts that some of you crap out from your limp wristed hands.



Christ help you son.
One single player can do it for a team in regular season. It is impossible go do it in playoffs though.

[tomtucker]

If you truly believe one single player does that for a team then ish has the dumbest fu*king people posting on here humanly imaginable.



I fear posting here that one day my IQ will be lowered by just having to shift through the shit posts that some of you crap out from your limp wristed hands.



Christ help you son.
:oldlol: :applause:

[shallehalle]

Damn, the Pacers finally eliminated the Heat from the playoffs
:roll: :roll:

[Magic 32]

https://uproxx.files.wordpress.com/2015/03/chris-bosh-hospital.png?w=650&h=515

http://s.likes-media.com/img/7c7447eccace429a24c0b8bc93cf9f9d

http://xnsports-amazon.xnsports.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/Dwyane-Wade-injury.jpg

https://cbscleveland.files.wordpress.com/2014/10/458134804_8.jpg?w=594&h=349&crop=1

[dubeta]

[IMG]http://xnsports-amazon.xnsports.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/Dwyane-Wade-injury.jpg



Nice, an illustration of wade's health the last 4 years

Your point?

[Magic 32]

Nice, an illustration of wade's health the last 4 years

Your point?

Yet somehow outplayed Lebron 40% of the time (including the most important finals road win of their mini-dynasty).

[dubeta]

Yet somehow outplayed Lebron 40% of the time (including the most important finals road win of their mini-dynasty).


By statpadding in garbage time and scoring LESS points? (33 vs 32 points) :facepalm

[Dresta]

still don't understand how you don't make the playoffs in the east by losing lebron and adding dragic, whiteside and deng.
Because that isn't what happened you ****ing retard.

[Im Still Ballin]

Yes it is Dresta you ****ing moron

That's EXACTLY what happened

[Dresta]

The Heat slipped 18 games without LeBron (and went from 1st to 10th in the East) despite, as noted earlier in this thread, adding Whiteside, Dragic, and Deng along with a rejuvenated Wade. Even with the Bosh health issue--and their record prior and subsequent to his departure was very similar--they should have made the playoffs in a conference where 41 wins can get you 6th place.

Still, it is pretty much par for the course for what happens when a team loses a GOAT-caliber player.

04' Lakers with Shaq: 56 wins, NBA finals.
Without Shaq: -22 wins, missed playoffs.

96' Magic with Shaq: 60 wins, ECF.
Without Shaq: -15 wins, first round.

93' Bulls with Jordan: 57 wins, champs.
Without Jordan: -2 wins, ECSF.

91' Lakers with Magic: 58 wins, NBA finals.
Without Magic: -15 wins, first round.

88' Celtics with Bird: 57 wins, ECF.
89' Celtics: -15 wins, first round (Bird played 6 games).

73' Lakers with Wilt: 60 wins, champs.
Without Wilt: -13 wins, first round.

69' Celtics with Russell: 48 wins, champs.
Without Russell: -14 wins, missed playoffs.

So to recap in these cases the decline in wins were -18 (Heat), -22, -15, -2, -15, -15, -13, -14. Pretty consistent.
Not this nonsense again. Such an idiotic comparison wouldn't make it through stats 101, come on. Each team had a completely different set of circumstances to deal with and dealt with them in different way - the action and the reaction are different, and here you are blindly comparing them like the most simple-minded child imaginable. There is nothing consistent about it - your selections are wholly arbitrary, and worst of all, completely boring and unimaginative, as usual.



Yes it is Dresta you ****ing moron

That's EXACTLY what happened
No, that's what will have happened next season (though Deng may not be there), when the team can actually all play together for THE FIRST TIME.

Dragic - 26 games, Bosh - 44 games, Whiteside - 48 games (started 32, 23mpg) - there was almost no overlap between these 3 guys, so no, it isn't 'what happened' - for perspective, Henry Walker played 23 games at 25mpg (Beasley 20mpg same number of games). That's nearly 48 minutes! A whole game of Walker and Beasley! Yeah, all that happened was Bron was replaced with 4 guys because he gave Riley lots of time to prepare (oh wait, he didn't, he gave Riley no indication what he was doing, waited for Riley to use up cap-space, and then pranced away to Cleveland - the man deliberately put Miami in the worst position he could).

Dragic & Bosh haven't played a minute together, and Whiteside, Wade & Bosh have only played 80 minutes together (and massively outperformed opponents in these minutes). Deng played the most games (72), and he's a guy who needs continuity and feeds of those around him, so he's sucked a fair amount.

Again, you haven't the slightest ****ing clue what you're talking about, something you must be used to by now. I suggest you simply stop offering your opinion because it's looking like you've got dementia or something.

[RoundMoundOfReb]

Not this nonsense again. Such an idiotic comparison wouldn't make it through stats 101, come on. Each team had a completely different set of circumstances to deal with and dealt with them in different way - the action and the reaction are different, and here you are blindly comparing them like the most simple-minded child imaginable. There is nothing consistent about it - your selections are wholly arbitrary, and worst of all, completely boring and unimaginative, as usual.



No, that's what will have happened next season (though Deng may not be there), when the team can actually all play together for THE FIRST TIME.

Dragic - 26 games, Bosh - 44 games, Whiteside - 48 games (started 32, 23mpg) - there was almost no overlap between these 3 guys, so no, it isn't 'what happened' - for perspective, Henry Walker played 23 games at 25mpg (Beasley 20mpg same number of games). That's nearly 48 minutes! A whole game of Walker and Beasley! Yeah, all that happened was Bron was replaced with 4 guys because he gave Riley lots of time to prepare (oh wait, he didn't, he gave Riley no indication what he was doing, waited for Riley to use up cap-space, and then pranced away to Cleveland - the man deliberately put Miami in the worst position he could).

Dragic & Bosh haven't played a minute together, and Whiteside, Wade & Bosh have only played 80 minutes together (and massively outperformed opponents in these minutes). Deng played the most games (72), and he's a guy who needs continuity and feeds of those around him, so he's sucked a fair amount.

Again, you haven't the slightest ****ing clue what you're talking about, something you must be used to by now. I suggest you simply stop offering your opinion because it's looking like you've got dementia or something.

Give the Heat LeBron this year for 75 games - take away Deng, Dragic, Whiteside and everyone else misses the same amount of games as they did (Bosh out for half the year...etc) - how many games do you honestly say the Heat win?

[sekachu]

Didnt see a thread about it.


With Indiana's win, Miami has mathematically been eliminated from the playoffs.

Gone from playing in the Finals to this.


Sad news, better luck next year. :(



I find it funny that you said sad news. Really???? :roll:

[Quickening]

Give the Heat LeBron this year for 75 games - take away Deng, Dragic, Whiteside and everyone else misses the same amount of games as they did (Bosh out for half the year...etc) - how many games do you honestly say the Heat win?

This is the thing, everyone knows if you take them players away, and put in Lebron, they still comfortably make the playoffs. The same people would also cry about the Heat being the most stacked team ever.

Haters gonna hate

[Trollsmasher]

Daily reminder that Boston made it with a starting lineup of Smart/Bradley/Turner/Bass/Zeller

Heat have zero excuses

[Magic 32]

Haters gonna hate

Or just wait for the playoffs.

[fefe]

Heat was unlucky with injuries this year.

Hopefully they can keep Deng and Dragic, and Bosh comes back strong next year.

If they can get a healthy season from all their starters,
the Dragic - Wade - Deng - Bosh - Whiteside starting 5 will be scary.

[keep-itreal]

:oldlol: at not being able to make the playoffs in the East

[fourkicks44]

More importantly, where are all the Miami fans? Did they leave this forum in early january like they leave their home games in the 3rd quarter when they are down?

This forum use to be swarming with heat fans? Where did they all go?

Anybody going to stand up for your team?

For Ron Seiklay's sake where are you all?

[Dresta]

More importantly, where are all the Miami fans? Did they leave this forum in early january like they leave their home games in the 3rd quarter when they are down?

This forum use to be swarming with heat fans? Where did they all go?

Anybody going to stand up for your team?

For Ron Seiklay's sake where are you all?
They were Bron stans, and they're still here, they just don't support Miami anymore (thank the lord).


Give the Heat LeBron this year for 75 games - take away Deng, Dragic, Whiteside and everyone else misses the same amount of games as they did (Bosh out for half the year...etc) - how many games do you honestly say the Heat win?
They'd have made the playoffs for sure, but i couldn't see them getting 50 wins. The team was getting abused by big teams even last year, and at the most important part of the season Miami were stuck starting Haslem and Walker (game against Indiana that screwed their playoff chances, for example, got annihilated on the boards.

But that's the point really, Miami needed a guy to play 70+ games, 35mpg, and be the focus of the offense for the bulk of games - that should've been Bosh. He started out well and got worse and worse as the season went on (Whiteside will make the game much easier for him and they barely got to play together). I'd like to see what he can give Miami without lung problems, because if you watch his drop off in play this year, he wasn't right for a while before he was diagnosed (literally completely stopped driving, and when he did it was weak a shit, was always gassed, and when he's your most important defensive player - as he was at the time - that hurts).

[Mawly-G]

Daily reminder that Boston made it with a starting lineup of Smart/Bradley/Turner/Bass/Zeller

Heat have zero excuses
Stevens>>>>Spo

[dubeta]

Funniest thing of all is that if you remove whiteside, deng, dragic, but add LeBron this team would still be considered 'the most stacked team in NBA history' :roll: :roll:

[SilkkTheShocker]

There was one. LeBron curse continues.

Yea, it's a "curse" that LeBron's former teams always go to s.hit when he leaves them :oldlol: You know it's bad for LeBron haters when this is the route they have go. Loser.

[Beastmode88]

Damn your bro lebronxrings must be fumming.

[Derka]

Daily reminder that Boston made it with a starting lineup of Smart/Bradley/Turner/Bass/Zeller

Heat have zero excuses

Brad >>>> Spo and its not even close. Still no excuse, you're right.

[Bernkastel]

Damn, the Pacers finally eliminated the Heat from the playoffs

lol

[nashwade]

I don't think injuries were the cause. They have a fantastic line up and a decent bench. Spo killed the team but trying to experiment with lineups which ONLY worked in the previous years because bron could play almost any position.

[WallIn]

Damn, the Pacers finally eliminated the Heat from the playoffs
:oldlol:

[305Baller]

I blame LeBron for the Heat missing the playoffs. It all falls on him.

:oldlol:

[Nash]

Give the Heat LeBron this year for 75 games - take away Deng, Dragic, Whiteside and everyone else misses the same amount of games as they did (Bosh out for half the year...etc) - how many games do you honestly say the Heat win?
this.

[BlakFrankWhite]

They should build Lebron statue asap