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Rose'sACL
04-16-2015, 09:11 PM
Kawhi Leonard becomes the first non PF/C to lead the league in Defensive Rating since Scottie Pippen in 94-95.
http://www.basketball-reference.com/leaders/def_rtg_yearly.html

http://i.imgur.com/UEYm1on.jpg

sammichoffate
04-16-2015, 09:15 PM
Sucks he missed so many games, or he'd be locked for DPOY

kennethgriffin
04-16-2015, 09:20 PM
lol@ bill walton in 85-86 leading the league while playing 19 minutes a game

broken down body and all...

yup... thats analytics for ya

Trollsmasher
04-16-2015, 09:24 PM
Greatest defensive wing of all time

Lebron put up 28 ppg on 68% TS against him in the Finals

Ler that sink in

Rose'sACL
04-16-2015, 09:26 PM
lol@ bill walton in 85-86 leading the league while playing 19 minutes a game

broken down body and all...

yup... thats analytics for ya
you would be happy to know that people who use these have all type of filters like "minutes played"
you are as retarded as charles barkley who think that people who use analytics don't watch the games and just focus on one stat when they use many to form a complete picture.
also, most analytics teams don't use defensive rating as there are no defensive stats that truly tell you how good or bad a defender is. you have to go into advanced stats and look at the points scored against that player and on what type of shots.

DonDadda59
04-16-2015, 09:26 PM
lol@ bill walton in 85-86 leading the league while playing 19 minutes a game

broken down body and all...

yup... thats analytics for ya

Yeah DRTG is already a severely flawed stat (unless you believe the 60s-70s were BY FAR the GOAT defensive era) but individual DRTG is completely useless (again, unless you consider Manu Ginobli a top 5 all time great defender).

Rose'sACL
04-16-2015, 09:29 PM
Yeah DRTG is already a severely flawed stat (unless you believe the 60s-70s were BY FAR the GOAT defensive era) but individual DRTG is completely useless (again, unless you consider Manu Ginobli a top 5 all time great defender).
i agree but it is funny to see you say that given that you use FTr which is just as flawed.

Leroy Jetson
04-16-2015, 09:50 PM
Kawhi Leonard becomes the first non PF/C to lead the league in Defensive Rating since Scottie Pippen in 94-95.
http://www.basketball-reference.com/leaders/def_rtg_yearly.html

http://i.imgur.com/UEYm1on.jpg
How is it possible Duncan never won DPOY? Way too much emphasis on blocks for this award. He was so much better than Dwight yet never won.

Giaodollo
04-16-2015, 09:53 PM
Yeah DRTG is already a severely flawed stat (unless you believe the 60s-70s were BY FAR the GOAT defensive era) but individual DRTG is completely useless (again, unless you consider Manu Ginobli a top 5 all time great defender).

I think it is very intuitive of how good a defender is. No surprise that KG led in 08 and 12 and the years between DH12 was the leader.

TheMilkyBarKid
04-16-2015, 09:57 PM
He pretty much is Pippen minus the pointguard ability.

LoneyROY7
04-16-2015, 10:01 PM
Marcus Camby the GOAT.

dubeta
04-16-2015, 10:02 PM
Greatest defensive wing of all time

Lebron put up 28 ppg on 68% TS against him in the Finals

Ler that sink in

:biggums:





















:bowdown:

navy
04-16-2015, 10:05 PM
How is it possible Duncan never won DPOY? Way too much emphasis on blocks for this award. He was so much better than Dwight yet never won.
You're delusional. Dwight Howard literally gets people to not attack the paint at all.

You could have went after alot of players. But Dwight Howard? GTFO.

hitmanyr2k
04-16-2015, 10:29 PM
Greatest defensive wing of all time

Lebron put up 28 ppg on 68% TS against him in the Finals

Ler that sink in

No need to let Lebron's garbage time points in blowout losses sink in. Getting blown out by 20+ two games straight on your home floor, booed by your crowd, and the "fans" leaving mid-way through the 4th qtr is nothing to crow about.

Rose'sACL
04-16-2015, 10:33 PM
No need to let Lebron's garbage time points in blowout losses sink in. Getting blown out by 20+ two games straight on your home floor, booed by your crowd, and the "fans" leaving mid-way through the 4th qtr is nothing to crow about.
explain. post his points in garbage time. go ahead. almost all of his points came in first 3 quarters in all games when games were still winnable. only this forum treats this as fact when it is the opposite of a fact.

KevinNYC
04-16-2015, 11:02 PM
Kawhi Leonard becomes the first non PF/C to lead the league in Defensive Rating since Scottie Pippen in 94-95.
http://www.basketball-reference.com/leaders/def_rtg_yearly.html

http://i.imgur.com/UEYm1on.jpg


Is Tim Duncan the oldest ever to lead the league?

And Walton in 86 was beastin'. It was noticeable how much better the defense got when he came off the bench