Muslims find out some of boat passengers are Christian & toss them overboard,12 die

[HitandRun Reggie]

I find it ironic that these people are traveling to countries predominantly made up of atheists and Christians, to seek a better life in the nation they created, and hopefully some charity from them as well, but show no tolerance to people of other faiths around them. :facepalm


http://www.cnn.com/2015/04/16/europe/italy-migrants-christians-thrown-overboard/

[Nick Young]

#Notallmuslims bro. Don't you know that the unibomber was Christian bro? :lol

[Patrick Chewing]

We must let Muslims conquer and destroy us. Not letting them kill us is intolerant of their religion.

We are better than this. Convert or die. It is the only way.

[TheMan]

We must let Muslims conquer and destroy us. Not letting them kill us is intolerant of their religion.

We are better than this. Convert or die. It is the only way.
I'm usually an easy going liberal but in this case, fvck these Muslim fakkits, I ain't converting and would rather we slaughter them all than succumb to the sword of Islam.

[BurningHammer]

Deport those a-holes back to wherever shitholes they resided.

[Patrick Chewing]

Deport those a-holes back to wherever shitholes they resided.


Racist! Bigot! Intolerant blasphemer!

[Nick Young]

Deport those a-holes back to wherever shitholes they resided.
Islamaphobe! Racist! (Islam is a race now)

[LEFT4DEAD]

I dont see a problem there... :rolleyes:

[poido123]

I dont see a problem there... :rolleyes:



Negged.

[kNIOKAS]

If they had faith, they would float.

[fiddy]

they kill 12 Christians and move on to live in a Christian country? Muslim scum is dumber than i thought :roll:

[Patrick Chewing]

Only idiots, like the hundreds that roam these forums, believe that Muslims want to live peacefully with other religions.

[sick_brah07]

muslims will never want to fit in with christians no matter how hard christians try fit in with muslims

[BurningHammer]

Racist! Bigot! Intolerant blasphemer!


Islamaphobe! Racist! (Islam is a race now)

:rolleyes:

[Smoke117]

We must let Muslims conquer and destroy us. Not letting them kill us is intolerant of their religion.

We are better than this. Convert or die. It is the only way.

http://cdn-www.i-am-bored.com/media/thumbnails/Resistance_is_futile[1].jpg

[imdaman99]

That's alpha as F :pimp:

No but seriously, that's messed up. I don't support this kinda behavior :confusedshrug:

That just means :

#NotAllMuslims

[DonDadda59]

If they had faith, they would float.

Worked in Salem, works in Palermo.


I'm more into feeding them to lions, but you know, that works too

Who has lion money these days? :whatever:

[tomtucker]

muslims will never want to fit in with christians no matter how hard christians try fit in with muslims

true....they only want the free money the dumb fukking christians give them....... in europe....especially in scandinavia

[LEFT4DEAD]

Negged.
:sleeping

[LEFT4DEAD]

true....they only want the free money the dumb fukking christians give them....... in europe....especially in scandinavia
What do you know about ****ing scandinavia dumbass?

[tomtucker]

What do you know about ****ing scandinavia dumbass?

that it is crawling with muslims......especially that shithole sweden, where they let in asylum seekers in like there is no tomorrow...noone gets denied access........soon swedes will be a minority........and oh yeah, crime and rape is sky rockingting :bowdown: .......

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http://www.infowars.com/feminists-mute-on-muslim-rape-epidemic-sweeping-europe/

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"MUSLIM RAPE EPIDEMIC SWEEPING EUROPE"


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[tomtucker]

What color skirts do Swedish men wear?

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http://ninetymilesfromtyranny.blogspot.dk/2014/05/a-perpetual-rape-orgy-is-occurring-in.html

[brownmamba00]

ever heard of the nordic model, you dumbfukk?^^

scandinavian countries have the best social democracy in the world without a doubt...too bad it's cold af out there tho.

[LEFT4DEAD]

that it is crawling with muslims......especially that shithole sweden, where they let in asylum seekers in like there is no tomorrow...noone gets denied access........soon swedes will be a minority........and oh yeah, crime and rape is sky rockingting :bowdown: .......

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http://www.infowars.com/feminists-mute-on-muslim-rape-epidemic-sweeping-europe/

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"MUSLIM RAPE EPIDEMIC SWEEPING EUROPE"


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Well that explains it. You are indeed an idiot. :applause:

[tomtucker]

:oldlol: ...sweden used to be a great place......anyone wanna guess what happened ?

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http://www.barenakedislam.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/hqdefault2.jpg

[Patrick Chewing]

This won't fly here in America. At least not in my neighborhood.


These baboons will have a bullseye right between the eyes.

[tomtucker]

This won't fly here in America. At least not in my neighborhood.


These baboons will have a bullseye right between the eyes.

Yes......... but that won

[wakencdukest]

:oldlol: ...sweden used to be a great place......anyone wanna guess what happened ?

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http://www.barenakedislam.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/hqdefault2.jpg





These Scandinavians need to bring back their Viking mentality and rid the land of these useless outlanders.

[Patrick Chewing]

[QUOTE=tomtucker]Yes......... but that won

[NumberSix]

ever heard of the nordic model, you dumbfukk?^^

scandinavian countries have the best social democracy in the world without a doubt...too bad it's cold af out there tho.
Yet they still manage to have a larger wealth gap than America.

[Trollsmasher]

These brave muslims acted accordingly to Quran.

On a muslim land (which is every land any muslim ever steps onto and I presume they count shit like boats too), the people of the book (Christians and Jews) have to pay the tax in order to be allowed to live there.

Since these Christians apparently did not pay the tax for living on the holy islamic land (the deck), they were, going by shariah law (since it was an islamic deck), deservingly thrown out of it. It's their own fault - they should have been respectful to the book of Quran and should've been ready to pay the tax.

I am glad that these muslim brothers were not stopped by the perilious circumstances of their dangerous journey and continue to act like true muslims in every moment of their life.

Inshallah! Allahu Akhbar!

[tomtucker]

These brave muslims acted accordingly to Quran.

On a muslim land (which is every land any muslim ever steps onto and I presume they count shit like boats too), the people of the book (Christians and Jews) have to pay the tax in order to be allowed to live there.

Since these Christians apparently did not pay the tax for living on the holy islamic land (the deck), they were by shariah law (since it was an islamic deck) deservingly thrown out of it. It's their own fault - they should have been respectful to the book of Quran and should've been ready to pay the tax.

I am glad that these muslim brothers were not stopped by the perilious circumstances of their dangerous journey and continu to act like true muslims in every moment of their life.

Inshallah! Allahu Akhbar!
:applause: ........:bowdown:

[Nick Young]

that it is crawling with muslims......especially that shithole sweden, where they let in asylum seekers in like there is no tomorrow...noone gets denied access........soon swedes will be a minority........and oh yeah, crime and rape is sky rockingting :bowdown: .......

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http://www.infowars.com/feminists-mute-on-muslim-rape-epidemic-sweeping-europe/

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"MUSLIM RAPE EPIDEMIC SWEEPING EUROPE"


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Also happening in England (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-south-yorkshire-28939089)

And Poland (http://www.examiner.com/article/poland-men-band-together-to-escort-women-protect-from-rape-gangs?cid=db_articlesPolish)

And Norway (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_qJae_4qAg)

And everywhere else in Europe (http://www.infowars.com/feminists-mute-on-muslim-rape-epidemic-sweeping-europe/).


Since it embraced multiculturalism in 1975, Sweden has become the rape capital of the west, with only the tiny African nation of Lesotho recording more sexual assaults.



Remember though brahs-don't be an Islamaphobe-that is the same as being a nazi. And don't be racist. Because the followers of the religious ideology of Islam are a race now.

#notallmuslims

[pauk]

Muslims? Can you be more specific? Is there some country called Muslimania or something? Is it a race or something? Dont get it.

EDIT: Ah, you mean 3rd world, random Africans vs Africans...

Why did this happen? Maybe because of stuff like this:

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/africa/2015/01/un-muslims-ethnically-cleansed-car-2015196546788288.html

If the majority on that boat were Christian Africans then those 12 guys would have been the Muslim Africans who got thrown overboard....

Next islamophob failing thread...............

[Nick Young]

Muslims? Can you be more specific? Is there some country called Muslimania or something? Is it a race or something? Dont get it.

EDIT: Ah, you mean 3rd world, random Africans vs Africans...

Why did this happen? Maybe because of stuff like this:

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/africa/2015/01/un-muslims-ethnically-cleansed-car-2015196546788288.html

If the majority on that boat were Christian Africans then those 12 guys would have been the Muslim Africans who got thrown overboard....

Next islamophob failing thread...............
You are right bro! Those muslims were justified in throwing Christians overboard, because of the horrible Islamaphobic atrocities committed in CAR! How dare these imperialist Islamaphobes pass any judgement on these poor immigrants looking to make a better life for themselves!


#NOTALLMUSLIMS

[pauk]

:oldlol: ...sweden used to be a great place......anyone wanna guess what happened ?

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http://www.barenakedislam.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/hqdefault2.jpg

The population there has been trippled aswell, there was very little poeple in Sweden, even today, they have like probably 2 million immigrants (0.57 mill. "muslims") by now out of the 9 million people... excluding the neighbour immigrants (norwegians, danish etc.)... thats very little, only Belgrad here in Serbia covers 30% of the Swedish population...... more people, more shit happens.... especially when you throw in many poor immigrants who just escaped war and refuse to give them a job and segregate them....


Next..........

[pauk]

You are right bro! Those muslims were justified in throwing Christians overboard, because of the horrible Islamaphobic atrocities committed in CAR! How dare these imperialist Islamaphobes pass any judgement on these poor immigrants looking to make a better life for themselves!


#NOTALLMUSLIMS

CAR? Do i really have to present you how many muslims are being ethnically cleansed there? Justified? I dont know, all i know is that there is the acts of people who just so happen to be muslim / christian..... they kill / get killed just for being muslim or christian....... they dont give a rats ass about whats right / whats wrong according to Islam/Christianity.... if they did they would be hugging....

Stop with this bullshit, no muslim has ever done you harm and never will, unless you provoke it, go back to your suburbs, play with your Kobe doll and calm down..... Kareem Abdul Jabbar aint gona behead you anytime soon....

[Nick Young]

The population there has been trippled aswell, there was very little poeple in Sweden, even today, they have like probably 2 million immigrants (0.57 mill. "muslims") by now out of the 9 million people... excluding the neighbour immigrants (norwegians, danish etc.)... thats very little, only Belgrad here in Serbia covers 30% of the Swedish population...... more people, more shit happens.... especially when you throw in many poor immigrants who just escaped war and refuse to give them a job and segregate them....
Except in Sweden the government gives immigrants free money for doing nothing.

Sweden is only behind Lesotho in terms of rapes (http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/5195/sweden-rape).
Sweden is the rape capital of Europe. It is interesting that the most feminist gender equality country in the world is also where the second most rapes happen! :O

Stop blaming the muslims, you culturally insensitive Islamaphobes!

#NOTALLMUSLIMS

[dunksby]

Those who define themselves as Muslims are mostly assholes, the expat ones the most.

[pauk]

Nick Young i give up, i dont know why i always respond on these threads, i just hope you are trolling.... have nothing against you or any of my fellow ISH/basketball people here but man you are hopeless if you are like that irl running around with those nazi/racist/douchebag (no difference) statements and generalizations.... have a happy life... and thank god you have freedom to be YOU on this forum, anywhere else you are banned...

If you really are that much of a islamophob you should maybe stop being a NBA fan though, many muslims there and many african-americans with muslim roots.... hell your best Laker was a muslim... so be careful around there....

[fiddy]

Nick Young i give up, i dont know why i always respond on these threads, i just hope you are trolling.... have nothing against you or any of my fellow ISH/basketball people here but man you are hopeless if you are like that irl running around with those nazi/racist/douchebag (no difference) statements and generalizations.... have a happy life... and thank god you have freedom to be YOU on this forum, anywhere else you are banned...

If you really are that much of a islamophob you should maybe stop being a NBA fan though, many muslims there and many african-americans with muslim roots.... hell your best Laker was a muslim... so be careful around there....
:roll: :roll: :roll:

[Giaodollo]

Except in Sweden the government gives immigrants free money for doing nothing.

Sweden is only behind Lesotho in terms of rapes (http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/5195/sweden-rape).
Sweden is the rape capital of Europe. It is interesting that the most feminist gender equality country in the world is also where the second most rapes happen! :O

Stop blaming the muslims, you culturally insensitive Islamaphobes!

#NOTALLMUSLIMS

Stop spreading this bullshit, first of all it is per capita, secondly it is because of the feminist laws that defines what a sexual assault is. 99% of those sexual assault is by someone close to you and not like in America where every fourth girl is raped by the time she is 18.

[Giaodollo]

The population there has been trippled aswell, there was very little poeple in Sweden, even today, they have like probably 2 million immigrants (0.57 mill. "muslims") by now out of the 9 million people... excluding the neighbour immigrants (norwegians, danish etc.)... thats very little, only Belgrad here in Serbia covers 30% of the Swedish population...... more people, more shit happens.... especially when you throw in many poor immigrants who just escaped war and refuse to give them a job and segregate them....


Next..........

It has not tripped where did you get that from? Our population has increased by 10 % tops over the last 30 years.

We give them jobs, but they rather sit home and collect welfare. Actually we give the employeer a tax rebate for hiring immigrants but still it takes on average 7 years for an immigrant to get a job. They are not victims in Sweden.

Furthermore there is no "official" statistic of the rape offender in Sweden since it is illegal to carry out those but by and large 70-80 % is committed by MENA immigrants despite not even being 10 % of the population. They actually did count the ethnicity of the rape offender in Norway and I think 95 % of the rapes where commited by, well you know.

[Nick Young]

Nick Young i give up, i dont know why i always respond on these threads, i just hope you are trolling.... have nothing against you or any of my fellow ISH/basketball people here but man you are hopeless if you are like that irl running around with those nazi/racist/douchebag (no difference) statements and generalizations.... have a happy life... and thank god you have freedom to be YOU on this forum, anywhere else you are banned...

If you really are that much of a islamophob you should maybe stop being a NBA fan though, many muslims there and many african-americans with muslim roots.... hell your best Laker was a muslim... so be careful around there....

I have nothing against the religion. I am against followers of the religion who do messed up things and commit acts of violence in the name of their religion.

It is impossible to be "racist" against Muslims. Islam is a religious ideology followed by people of all races and skin colors all over the world. One cannot be racist against followers of a religious ideology. I certainly am against followers of this religion and OTHER RELIGIONS who use their religion to justify violence.

Being against religious violence does not make me an Islamaphobe, unless you are trying to say that you believe all Muslims are violent.

I am also against Jews, Christians, Hindus, Mormons, Scientologists who kill or rape in the name of their religion.

#NOTALLMUSLIMS.

Also-educate yourself about the Rotherham rape scandal. (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-28949188)

[Nick Young]

Stop spreading this bullshit, first of all it is per capita, secondly it is because of the feminist laws that defines what a sexual assault is. 99% of those sexual assault is by someone close to you and not like in America where every fourth girl is raped by the time she is 18.
Stop spreading this bullshit. According to a recent US Department of Justice (http://www.bjs.gov/index.cfm?ty=pbdetail&iid=5176)report, the real number is every 0.03 out of 5 girls is raped in their life time.


I guess you know better than the Department of Justice though, right?:confusedshrug:


#NOTALLMUSLIMS

Don't start blaming all Muslims in the world for the atrocities committed by these violent illegal immigrants.

[Giaodollo]

Stop spreading this bullshit. According to a recent US Department of Justice (http://www.bjs.gov/index.cfm?ty=pbdetail&iid=5176)report, the real number is every 0.03 out of 5 girls is raped in their life time.


I guess you know better than the Department of Justice though, right?:confusedshrug:


#NOTALLMUSLIMS

Don't start blaming all Muslims in the world for the atrocities committed by these violent illegal immigrants.

70 000 rapes in 2008 though vs 250 in sweden 2009 doe.

[Giaodollo]

What defines sexual assault in Sweden

I am not sure about the full definition but sometime around the mid 00s the law changed, 2004 there was 2000 reports of sexual assault and in 2005 it was 4000, today it is at 6000.

A part of it is most countries counts a gang rape as one individual rape, in Sweden if there is 10 people raping a girl they are all counted as a seperate rape.

[Giaodollo]

Should I visit Sweden? Tight there?

Yeah it is, Stockholm is the most beautiful city in the summer.

[Nick Young]

70 000 rapes in 2008 though vs 250 in sweden 2009 doe.
Please stop ignoring US Department of Justice statistics and blindly shouting lies like "1 in 4 girls is raped before the age of 18"

False fabricated statistics like that are harmful and hurtful to actual victims of rape brah. You lies don't help anything.

[Nick Young]

I am not sure about the full definition but sometime around the mid 00s the law changed, 2004 there was 2000 reports of sexual assault and in 2005 it was 4000, today it is at 6000.

A part of it is most countries counts a gang rape as one individual rape, in Sweden if there is 10 people raping a girl they are all counted as a seperate rape.
Why are you denying a massive problem? Rapists in Sweden are not going to be stopped if everyone was like you, trying to minimize rape stats, and pretending it wasn't a big problem.

Being #2 behind only Lesotho is a big deal. Especially for a country that considers itself the most feminist and gender equal in the world.

If you tackle the problem directly, like we do in the US, your country will see dramatic falls in the number of rapes. Denying the problem like you are doing does nothing but encourage rapists to rape more.

[Giaodollo]

Why are you denying a massive problem? Rapists in Sweden are not going to be stopped if everyone was like you, trying to minimize rape stats, and pretending it wasn't a big problem.

Being #2 behind only Lesotho is a big deal. Especially for a country that considers itself the most feminist and gender equal in the world.

If you tackle the problem directly, like we do in the US, your country will see dramatic falls in the number of rapes. Denying the problem like you are doing does nothing but encourage rapists to rape more.

Look, I get that you get a kick out of trolling from you pathetic life and have nothing better to do then try to act like a jackass anonymously. With that said, yes Sweden has had rape problems but it is nowhere near the way you're saying it is. Yes, most of the VIOLENT rapes are committed by MENA immigrants (Happy?) and yes Sweden has had an increasing amount of sexual assault over the past ten years REPORTED.

The number of acquitted is not nearly at the same rate as the increase of reports and it has a lot to do with the law change the made "rape" a more broader term, so to say..

[Nick Young]

Look, I get that you get a kick out of trolling from you pathetic life and have nothing better to do then try to act like a jackass anonymously. With that said, yes Sweden has had rape problems but it is nowhere near the way you're saying it is. Yes, most of the VIOLENT rapes are committed by MENA immigrants (Happy?) and yes Sweden has had an increasing amount of sexual assault over the past ten years REPORTED.

The number of acquitted is not nearly at the same rate as the increase of reports and it has a lot to do with the law change the made "rape" a more broader term, so to say..
It's not what I'm saying. I'm just bringing you facts and statistics that other people have found out. Here are more.
http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/top-5-countries-highest-rates-rape-1434355

Sweden has the highest rate of rape in Europe, with the UN reporting 69 rape cases per 100,000 inhabitants in 2011, according to author and advocate of power feminism Naomi Wolf on opinion website Project Syndicate.

I assumed you would get these statistics reported to you in Sweden, but I guess it is something your government wants to cover up/minimize.

[Giaodollo]

It's not what I'm saying. I'm just bringing you facts and statistics that other people have found out. Here are more.
http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/top-5-countries-highest-rates-rape-1434355

I assumed you would get these statistics reported to you in Sweden, but I guess it is something your government wants to cover up/minimize.

Not rapes, in Sweden rapes and sexual assault are lumped in to one...

So to fix the quote from the feminist Naomi Wolf

There is 69 reported rape and sexual assault per 100 000 inhabitants in 2011.

What counts as rape or sexual assault in Sweden is denudation, buying prostitues and so on. Of the reported around 1 000 were acquitted for rape OR sexual assault.

[Trollsmasher]

I think it really does not matter if the definition skewes the statistics if majority of them can still be attributed to MENA immigrants.

And it's not like it is only about the rape. Don't you guys have like 50% unemployment among this particular group? I think it is the highest in Europe.

I have also heard about a housing crisis, even read about kicking people, the very people who build this Sweden, out of retirement homes to make room for immigrants.

[Giaodollo]

I think it really does not matter if the definition skewes the statistics if majority of them can still be attributed to MENA immigrants.

And it's not like it is only about the rape. Don't you guys have like 50% unemployment among this particular group? I think it is the highest in Europe.

I have also heard about a housing crisis, even read about kicking people out of retirement homes to make room for immigrants, the very people who build this Sweden.

Housing crisis, is a delicate issue, and there is probably housing problems all over europe.

Part of the problem is, none of these people want to live outside of a big city, Stockholm, Gothenburg,Malmo or around it. That makes the housing crisis bigger because it becomes all in one place.. Now you could like we did in the 80s and 90s and build these ghettos with ugly concrete apartments just outside the cities and just let them all stay there, which creates segratation and they all live in a place where they won't need Swedish and thus integration into the Swedish society becomes harder... Or, we could force them to live in X place, but most of these places are in the middle of nowhere with low population. So if you put 2000 somali's there it is going to create a chock for the inhabitants there and the same problem with integration starts. And also white flight in US, could also be attributed here, where they come Swedes move away from..

So integration and segration will always be a problem.

Another problem is, people have taken HUGE mortgages on apartment in the city, what happens if you start building unconcisely? Prices drops and people are left with loans worth shit.

We have the capacity to house everyone, just our biggest construction company can do it alone but it comes at a cost.

[Nick Young]

Housing crisis, is a delicate issue, and there is probably housing problems all over europe.

Part of the problem is, none of these people want to live outside of a big city, Stockholm, Gothenburg,Malmo or around it. That makes the housing crisis bigger because it becomes all in one place.. Now you could like we did in the 80s and 90s and build these ghettos with ugly concrete apartments just outside the cities and just let them all stay there, which creates segratation and they all live in a place where they won't need Swedish and thus integration into the Swedish society becomes harder... Or, we could force them to live in X place, but most of these places are in the middle of nowhere with low population. So if you put 2000 somali's there it is going to create a chock for the inhabitants there and the same problem with integration starts. And also white flight in US, could also be attributed here, where they come Swedes move away from..

So integration and segration will always be a problem.

Another problem is, people have taken HUGE mortgages on apartment in the city, what happens if you start building unconcisely? Prices drops and people are left with loans worth shit.

We have the capacity to house everyone, just our biggest construction company can do it alone but it comes at a cost.
You sure doing a lot of mansplaining (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Mansplain), bah

[Giaodollo]

You sure doing a lot of mansplaining (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Mansplain), bah

Facts, bah. What parts of it are mansplaining?

[Giaodollo]

Yet they still manage to have a larger wealth gap than America.

What? Sweden, Denmark and Norway all has one of the lowest wealth gap in the world.

[Nick Young]

Your country isn't the magical all-inclusive utopia your government is telling you it is, brah.

[Giaodollo]

Your country isn't the magical all-inclusive utopia your government is telling you it is, brah.

Aware of that, but fact is Scandinavian countries has among the lowest wealth gap in the world.

Care to disprove that?

[Nick Young]

Aware of that, but fact is Scandinavian countries has among the lowest wealth gap in the world.

Care to disprove that?

Is that another lie your government tells you?

That's according to Credit Suisse's weighty Global Wealth Report 2014. It's a finding that's likely to seriously surprise some people. The top 10% of wealth holders in three Nordic countries (Norway, Sweden and Denmark) hold between 65 and 69 per cent of those nations' wealth.

In comparison to the other developed economies in Europe, Scandinavian inequality on this measure seriously stands out: they're significantly above British, French, Italian or Spanish levels. Germany and Austria come a little closer, but are still behind. Only finance-dominated Switzerland reaches higher levels of wealth inequality.



Read more: http://uk.businessinsider.com/why-socialist-scandinavia-has-some-of-the-highest-inequality-in-europe-2014-10#ixzz3Xm9gDVy3

Is Sweden really as 'equal' as it pretends it is? The facts and data say otherwise.

[Giaodollo]

Is that another lie your government tells you?

I never said we had the lowest wealth gap, still is among the lowest in the world.

[Nick Young]

I never said we had the lowest wealth gap, still is among the lowest in the world.
That's relative bro. Compared to North America and Europe, Sweden has close to the highest wealth inequality gap, behind only Switzerland.

[Giaodollo]

That's relative bro. Compared to North America and Europe, Sweden has close to the highest wealth inequality gap, behind only Switzerland.

Compared to Canada, not North America, I am positive US, Mexico has a 100 times higher wealth gap. Wasn't 1 % owning 99 % in us?

[LJJ]

That's relative bro. Compared to North America and Europe, Sweden has close to the highest wealth inequality gap, behind only Switzerland.

It depends what you see as wealth gap I guess. There are 0 poor people in countries like Sweden and Norway. They just don't exist. People are taken care off. You pretty much have to have a severe mental illness and refuse any help to be a poor person in those countries.

In the US? Tons of poor people. People struggling to put a normal dinner on the table.

If you ask me, looking at say the bottom 50%, bottom 30%, bottom 5% of a country and how well they are off is much better in terms of measuring the inequality in a country than looking at the top 10%.

[Nick Young]

Compared to Canada, not North America, I am positive US, Mexico has a 100 times higher wealth gap. Wasn't 1 % owning 99 % in us?
It doesn't matter how positive you are in your little mind. It doesn't make you right. Read the article.
http://uk.businessinsider.com/why-socialist-scandinavia-has-some-of-the-highest-inequality-in-europe-2014-10#ixzz3Xm9gDVy3

no, it isn't 1% owning 99% in the US. That is just hippy Russel Brand propaganda they say because it sounds nice.

[Nick Young]

It depends what you see as wealth gap I guess. There are 0 poor people in countries like Sweden and Norway. They just don't exist. People are taken care off. You pretty much have to have a severe mental illness and refuse any help to be a poor person in those countries.

Can confirm that as false. I have been to Norway multiple times and seen a large amount of homeless in Oslo.

[LJJ]

Can confirm that as false. I have been to Norway multiple times and seen a large amount of homeless in Oslo.

They fall under the severe mental illness category. They are willfully poor, it's the lifestyle they choose. There are tons of services for people in Norway to keep them from being poor that the US just doesn't have. The % of poor people in the US eclipses the % of those in Norway.

[Nanners]

Remember when Nick Young left the forum because someone released his facebook page

:oldlol:

how could anyone forget?

[Giaodollo]

Can confirm that as false. I have been to Norway multiple times and seen a large amount of homeless in Oslo.

We also have a plethora of homeless people, mostly romanian gypsies though and some with drug or alcohol problems. But mostly Romanian gypsies.

[Giaodollo]

It doesn't matter how positive you are in your little mind. It doesn't make you right. Read the article.
http://uk.businessinsider.com/why-socialist-scandinavia-has-some-of-the-highest-inequality-in-europe-2014-10#ixzz3Xm9gDVy3

no, it isn't 1% owning 99% in the US. That is just hippy Russel Brand propaganda they say because it sounds nice.

Maybe it was 95 %. Doesn't change the fact that has most homeless people by a wide margin among all "developed" countries.

[Dresta]

It depends what you see as wealth gap I guess. There are 0 poor people in countries like Sweden and Norway. They just don't exist. People are taken care off. You pretty much have to have a severe mental illness and refuse any help to be a poor person in those countries.

In the US? Tons of poor people. People struggling to put a normal dinner on the table.

If you ask me, looking at say the bottom 50%, bottom 30%, bottom 5% of a country and how well they are off is much better in terms of measuring the inequality in a country than looking at the top 10%.
That would be the difference between a small country with a tiny population and a huge country with a large one. The bigger the country and population the less feasible and effective centralised welfare projects will be. Comparing the US to Scandinavian countries is pointless for this very reason.

The US is a large and diverse country; attempting to foist a uniform welfare state onto it has been an exercise in utter folly, and has brought along disastrous consequences. If people want to live in a utopian paradise then they had the option of trying to develop one on the local level first, because, you know, it's better to see if things actually work before trying to force a uniform standard onto a diverse nation. It's that strange idea of allowing local residents to actually have a say in how their community is run, rather than everything being decided by the corrupted elites of Washington.

[tomtucker]

Whole europe is doomed, Australia prob. fukked too......you let shit in, your whole country will suffer, your children are doomed........you know they breed like rodents, only a matter of time before the social and finaciel collaps.............just stay in your own huge fukking countries, but no, why should you , when there is free money to collect elsewhere.

[Nick Young]

Maybe it was 95 %. Doesn't change the fact that has most homeless people by a wide margin among all "developed" countries.


They fall under the severe mental illness category. They are willfully poor, it's the lifestyle they choose. There are many programs in the US designed to help the homeless and poor, that these people willfully ignore.

Also where did you get this 95% statistic? Your ass? Stop making up statistics and pretending they are facts.

[Kblaze8855]

Stop spreading this bullshit. According to a recent US Department of Justice report, the real number is every 0.03 out of 5 girls is raped in their life time.


I guess you know better than the Department of Justice though, right?

There is no way in hell its that low. At least not if you count general molestations. The more women I speak to the more it seems like all of them have a bad story to tell about when they were 8.

[ace23]

There is no way in hell its that low. At least not if you count general molestations. The more women I speak to the more it seems like all of them have a bad story to tell about when they were 8.
Molestation is not necessarily rape.

[Nick Young]

There is no way in hell its that low. At least not if you count general molestations. The more women I speak to the more it seems like all of them have a bad story to tell about when they were 8.
The number is that low. Deal with it. Sorry that facts and numbers disagree with your personal anecdotes. You must be right though. I'm sure you know better than the department of justice.

Also, not saying this is always the case, or the case for your lady friends, but loads of girls make shit up for attention, especially in current society where victims are glamorized and hero worshiped. See also Lena Dunham, that UVA Jackie Chick and the Columbia Mattress women who are all glamorized "survivors" whose rape stories fell apart upon journalistic scrutiny. Also, borderline chicks always talk about getting abused, either by their ex, or some time when they were a kid. They tell a guy this early to get him in to the "I will protect you." mode, and also so he starts working extra hard to prove he's not like her "abusive ex." If all the girls you meet are telling you these abuse stories early on of you knowing them-be careful, she might have borderline personality disorder.

[imdaman99]

Is that another lie your government tells you?

:oldlol: I find it laughable that this guy says something like that. Your/my government does nothing but lie to you and I. The difference is that I can usually tell when they are.

[Dresta]

There is no way in hell its that low. At least not if you count general molestations. The more women I speak to the more it seems like all of them have a bad story to tell about when they were 8.
:biggums:

Why would you do that? There's a huge difference between rape and general molestation, and an important distinction to be made between the two. The word rape has long-standing connotations with violence, and should only be used in cases which include violence (i.e. clear cut ones). It should apply to the more serious offenses and should carry a term of life imprisonment (or at least something close to it) - rape is something that should be clear cut, not ambiguous and dependent on personal testimony.

The way we have it now where someone can be convicted of 'rape' and barely even go to prison is a complete mockery of a crime that used to be considered as offensive as murder, and it stems from conflating two different definitions that used to be separated.

[Nick Young]

:oldlol: I find it laughable that this guy says something like that. Your/my government does nothing but lie to you and I. The difference is that I can usually tell when they are.
Dawg, I'm breaking kayfabe here but I'm going to let you in on a little secret-I don't actually blindly support everything the government does-it's just a satirical gimmick, dawg.

[DonD13]

last night, a boat with 900 people on it drowned

last week every day 1500 came to Italy on shitty boats

shit's getting real

[tomtucker]

That would be the difference between a small country with a tiny population and a huge country with a large one. The bigger the country and population the less feasible and effective centralised welfare projects will be. Comparing the US to Scandinavian countries is pointless for this very reason.

The US is a large and diverse country; attempting to foist a uniform welfare state onto it has been an exercise in utter folly, and has brought along disastrous consequences. If people want to live in a utopian paradise then they had the option of trying to develop one on the local level first, because, you know, it's better to see if things actually work before trying to force a uniform standard onto a diverse nation. It's that strange idea of allowing local residents to actually have a say in how their community is run, rather than everything being decided by the corrupted elites of Washington.

Yes, cramming a lot of foreigners into a small country, like all the nordic countries are, is a recipe for disaster.......swedes are ******* and have folded........population in norway and denmark have not.....goverment parties that hate the influx of muslims are big in those 2 countries........

[Nick Young]

last night, a boat with 900 people on it drowned

last week every day 1500 came to Italy on shitty boats

shit's getting real
Another victory for the Middle East. Good job Libya!:applause:

:facepalm
Christ, RIP migrant victims of human slavery. F*ck Libya and the people who do this shit. Glad to see that the Italian PM seems to have balls.

[DonD13]

Another victory for the Middle East. Good job Libya!:applause:

:facepalm
Christ, RIP migrant victims of human slavery. F*ck Libya and the people who do this shit. Glad to see that the Italian PM seems to have balls.

what you mean?

[Nick Young]

Yes, cramming a lot of foreigners into a small country, like all the nordic countries are, is a recipe for disaster.......swedes are ******* and have folded........population in norway and denmark have not.....goverment parties that hate the influx of muslims are big in those 2 countries........
Exactly-they let all these immigrants in, and give them welfare support and homes to live in. The immigrants start raping the Swedish women, leading to the country having the highest rape rate in Europe-and what do the Swedes do? They completely deny it as being an issue, protect and rehabilitate the rapists, and continue to let more immigrants in and provide them with more free welfare. No surprises, the rape rate continues to rise, and Sweden continues to operate with a cheery smile on its face. Common Swedes deny the rape rate and fiercely defend the immigrants who statistics show are primarily responsible for most of the rapes in Sweden.


The system is completely unsustainable. In 20 years Sweden will be back where it was in the 50s-a backwater non-player.

[Nick Young]

what you mean?
Renzi seems like he wants to take a strong stance to do something to end this human trafficking shit.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-32376082

[DonD13]

Renzi seems like he wants to take a strong stance to do something to end this human trafficking shit.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-32376082

Italy already was helping out while the EU was secretly mad because they know that those people won't stay in those overcrowded camps in South Italy

that whole African refugees thing could be a thing where the EU could show that it has some advantages after all

so far they act like it's not real

[Nick Young]

Italy already was helping out while the EU was secretly mad because they know that those people won't stay in those overcrowded camps in South Italy

that whole African refugees thing could be a thing where the EU could show that it has some advantages after all

so far they act like it's not real
Just like the rape crisis in Sweden. Just like Hitler's rise to power in WWII. It wasn't until he invaded Poland that Euros decided to do anything about it. Do you see a pattern with how these Euros react to crisis? EU doesn't work because when a problems like this come up they all just freeze up and try to shirk responsibility to someone else.

[poido123]

Exactly-they let all these immigrants in, and give them welfare support and homes to live in. The immigrants start raping the Swedish women, leading to the country having the highest rape rate in Europe-and what do the Swedes do? They completely deny it as being an issue, protect and rehabilitate the rapists, and continue to let more immigrants in and provide them with more free welfare. No surprises, the rape rate continues to rise, and Sweden continues to operate with a cheery smile on its face. Common Swedes deny the rape rate and fiercely defend the immigrants who statistics show are primarily responsible for most of the rapes in Sweden.


The system is completely unsustainable. In 20 years Sweden will be back where it was in the 50s-a backwater non-player.



It amazes me how much tolerance Western countries has for Islam and its people. I mean, with all the demands, protesting, manipulating our laws, raping our women and welfare and all the problems Islam has brought into western societies and of course the ISIS threat, why the f.ck are they not cutting off immigration to these people?


They should be deemed a threat and incapable of assimilating into Western society. We need to get tough on them.

[Nick Young]

It amazes me how much tolerance Western countries has for Islam and its people. I mean, with all the demands, protesting, manipulating our laws, raping our women and welfare and all the problems Islam has brought into western societies and of course the ISIS threat, why the f.ck are they not cutting off immigration to these people?


They should be deemed a threat and incapable of assimilating into Western society. We need to get tough on them.
That wouldn't be fair, because most immigrants do want to assimilate into society and do their best to work hard and succeed. The problem is, if you're too nice you get walked on. Sweden offers free housing and government welfare to all of its citizens-that's a nice thing to do right? The problem is, when you do something nice for people, there are always f*ckheads who are going to do their best to take advantage.

Banning immigration is not good-I think its good to let people in who want better lives and who will contribute positively to society. Maybe a solution can be to make the immigrants learn Swedish before they're allowed in, and pass a ton of difficult tests. That would weed out the idiots and assholes who just want to come in so they can sit on welfare for their whole lives and leech off the state.

[poido123]

That wouldn't be fair, because most immigrants do want to assimilate into society and do their best to work hard and succeed. The problem is, if you're too nice you get walked on. Sweden offers free housing and government welfare to all of its citizens-that's a nice thing to do right? The problem is, when you do something nice for people, there are always f*ckheads who are going to do their best to take advantage.

Banning immigration is not good-I think its good to let people in who want better lives and who will contribute positively to society. Maybe a solution can be to make the immigrants learn Swedish before they're allowed in, and pass a ton of difficult tests. That would weed out the idiots and assholes who just want to come in so they can sit on welfare for their whole lives and leech off the state.



I think immigration can be looked at as a patch up job for governments who can't fix their problems internally.


I mean, if countries were able to fill low skilled jobs with their own people, would there be any need for immigration?


Why do we owe everyone a better way of life? The world isn't fair, that would mean each and every person should share the same right to a better way of life but that isn't realistic and it's only a fairytale.


I'm sure starving africans would love to find a place where they can eat and live. But somehow Muslims are afforded the right to reap the rewards of a better way of life? While they b.tch about every little thing and suck our resources dry.

F.ck them. They don't deserve it and if a small minority is the problem then the majority needs to do more to avoid their religion being branded a menace to society.

[Nick Young]

I think immigration can be looked at as a patch up job for governments who can't fix their problems internally.


I mean, if countries were able to fill low skilled jobs with their own people, would there be any need for immigration?


Why do we owe everyone a better way of life? The world isn't fair, that would mean each and every person should share the same right to a better way of life but that isn't realistic and it's only a fairytale.


I'm sure starving africans would love to find a place where they can eat and live. But somehow Muslims are afforded the right to reap the rewards of a better way of life? While they b.tch about every little thing and suck our resources dry.

F.ck them. They don't deserve it and if a small minority is the problem then the majority needs to do more to avoid their religion being branded a menace to society.
Dude, if they work hard and contribute to better the society, and want to be there and do their best to fit in, I'd want them in my country.

The problem is, most people-regardless of religion and where they're from, are lazy stupid pieces of shit. USA has a pretty good system of only LEGALLY allowing immigrants in who are hard workers and can immediately contribute to improving society.

If we just let everyone in to USA regardless of ability and desire to work and be productive members of society, USA would fall apart quickly. That's what's happening in Sweden and many other countries. Free healthcare, free welfare, free housing to any lazy asshole who wants it.

Don't just be hating on Muslims dog. Most of them just want to be and succeed and live nice lives, just like Christians, Mormons, Scientologists and Jews. Islam is not very different from judaism or christianity. The people who are wrong are muslims who use their religion as justification for raping women and killing people.

[Nick Young]

I think immigration can be looked at as a patch up job for governments who can't fix their problems internally.


I mean, if countries were able to fill low skilled jobs with their own people, would there be any need for immigration?


Why do we owe everyone a better way of life? The world isn't fair, that would mean each and every person should share the same right to a better way of life but that isn't realistic and it's only a fairytale.


I'm sure starving africans would love to find a place where they can eat and live. But somehow Muslims are afforded the right to reap the rewards of a better way of life? While they b.tch about every little thing and suck our resources dry.

F.ck them. They don't deserve it and if a small minority is the problem then the majority needs to do more to avoid their religion being branded a menace to society.
Dude, if they work hard and contribute to better the society, and want to be there and do their best to fit in, I'd want them in my country.

The problem is, most people-regardless of religion and where they're from, are lazy stupid pieces of shit. USA has a pretty good system of only LEGALLY allowing immigrants in who are hard workers and can immediately contribute to improving society.

If we just let everyone in to USA regardless of ability and desire to work and be productive members of society, USA would fall apart quickly. That's what's happening in Sweden and many other countries. Free healthcare, free welfare, free housing.

Don't just be hating on Muslims dog. Most of them just want to be and succeed and live nice lives, just like Christians, Mormons, Scientologists and Jews. Islam is not very different from judaism or christianity. The people who are wrong are muslims who use their religion as justification for raping women and killing people.

And for some reason, that seems to be happening a lot, judging by Swedish rape statistics, and the muslim rape gangs in England (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-south-yorkshire-28939089).

Pretending like this isn't a problem only encourages rapists to rape more. In Sweden they know even if they get convicted the prison system there is like a luxury hotel. They will have endless leisure time, gym, TV, heated rooms and 3 nutritious square meals a day.

[RoundMoundOfReb]

Dude, if they work hard and contribute to better the society, and want to be there and do their best to fit in, I'd want them in my country.

The problem is, most people-regardless of religion and where they're from, are lazy stupid pieces of shit. USA has a pretty good system of only LEGALLY allowing immigrants in who are hard workers and can immediately contribute to improving society.

If we just let everyone in to USA regardless of ability and desire to work and be productive members of society, USA would fall apart quickly. That's what's happening in Sweden and many other countries. Free healthcare, free welfare, free housing.

Don't just be hating on Muslims dog. Most of them just want to be and succeed and live nice lives, just like Christians, Mormons, Scientologists and Jews. Islam is not very different from judaism or christianity. The people who are wrong are muslims who use their religion as justification for raping women and killing people.

And for some reason, that seems to be happening a lot, judging by Swedish rape statistics, and the muslim rape gangs in England (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-south-yorkshire-28939089).

Pretending like this isn't a problem only encourages rapists to rape more. In Sweden they know even if they get convicted the prison system there is like a luxury hotel. They will have endless leisure time, gym, TV, heated rooms and 3 nutritious square meals a day.


Socialism :facepalm

[poido123]

Dude, if they work hard and contribute to better the society, and want to be there and do their best to fit in, I'd want them in my country.

The problem is, most people-regardless of religion and where they're from, are lazy stupid pieces of shit. USA has a pretty good system of only LEGALLY allowing immigrants in who are hard workers and can immediately contribute to improving society.

If we just let everyone in to USA regardless of ability and desire to work and be productive members of society, USA would fall apart quickly. That's what's happening in Sweden and many other countries. Free healthcare, free welfare, free housing to any lazy asshole who wants it.

Don't just be hating on Muslims dog. Most of them just want to be and succeed and live nice lives, just like Christians, Mormons, Scientologists and Jews. Islam is not very different from judaism or christianity. The people who are wrong are muslims who use their religion as justification for raping women and killing people.



Racist bigots are getting louder and the disdain for these bigots from Islam is creating the ISIS ideology to spread over moderate Muslim people.

Eventually the ISIS ideology will morph into mainstream Islam. It only takes more ISIS propaganda, louder condemnation of Islam in Western society, and trying to force Muslims to conform to Western customs and beliefs.

We don't make a stand now, the war being waged on us will be too little too late.

Have you read about the Taqiyya? The war is already happening behind enemy lines. We are only being fooled into "not all muslims" thinking.

[Nick Young]

Do you know what Americans thought of your immigrand Jew ancestors when they started migrating in their millions from Russia?
They liked them, because my great grandpa was a trained surgeon who taught himself English on the boat over and settled in a town that didn't have many doctors.

As for other immigrants-yes I see the irony you are trying to point out-here's the difference.

In the 1860s-1910s, the time when we were freely letting the most immigrants in, America didn't have socialized welfare. If these immigrants came here and didn't find successful lives, they would be kicked to the curb. The government would not be there to save the day and give them a free house and free money and free food. This created a system of people knowing they had to work their ass off if they wanted to make it in America. It was sink or swim.

Sweden's welfare system removes all incentive to work hard. If the government is going to provide a free cushy life to you, and you don't even have to work for it, you can't really blame people for taking advantage of the system.

[tomtucker]

Exactly-they let all these immigrants in, and give them welfare support and homes to live in. The immigrants start raping the Swedish women, leading to the country having the highest rape rate in Europe-and what do the Swedes do? They completely deny it as being an issue, protect and rehabilitate the rapists, and continue to let more immigrants in and provide them with more free welfare. No surprises, the rape rate continues to rise, and Sweden continues to operate with a cheery smile on its face. Common Swedes deny the rape rate and fiercely defend the immigrants who statistics show are primarily responsible for most of the rapes in Sweden.


The system is completely unsustainable. In 20 years Sweden will be back where it was in the 50s-a backwater non-player.

but sweden have allways been shit however, they were neutral in WW2.....the other 3 nordic countries, finland, norway and denmark were occupied by germany........wonder what their problem is, just cowards i guess.........but it does not matter now...........nordic countries and whole europe is occupied again, and this time it is forever.......noone can free europe now, it

[poido123]

They liked them, because my great grandpa was a trained surgeon who taught himself English on the boat over and settled in a town that didn't have many doctors.

As for other immigrants-yes I see the irony you are trying to point out-here's the difference.

In the 1860s-1910s, the time when we were freely letting the most immigrants in, America didn't have socialized welfare. If these immigrants came here and didn't find successful lives, they would be kicked to the curb. The government would not be there to save the day and give them a free house and free money and free food. This created a system of people knowing they had to work their ass off if they wanted to make it in America. It was sink or swim.

Sweden's welfare system removes all incentive to work hard. If the government is going to provide a free cushy life to you, and you don't even have to work for it, you can't really blame people for taking advantage of the system.


I'd like to know what the percentage of those immigrant free loaders are Muslim.

[tomtucker]

. In Sweden they know even if they get convicted the prison system there is like a luxury hotel. They will have endless leisure time, gym, TV, heated rooms and 3 nutritious square meals a day.

true.....no wonder they love it there.....in muslim countries you get thrown in shithole jails, in nordic europe, jail is like hotels in comparison........so these imigrant fukks have no problem with commiting crimes

[poido123]

true.....no wonder they love it there.....in muslim countries you get thrown in shithole jails, in nordic europe, jail are like hotels in comparison........so these imigrant fukks have no problem with commiting crimes


Don't hold back. Please tell us how you really feel :oldlol:


On top of that, legal loopholes keep these guys out of jail on religious grounds.


The f.ck is up with that? This world is so backwards now, the world has lost its balls to speak out against anything. Everyone is so tied down by political correctness etc.

[fiddy]

Don't hold back. Please tell us how you really feel :oldlol:


On top of that, legal loopholes keep these guys out of jail on religious grounds.


The f.ck is up with that? This world is so backwards now, the world has lost its balls to speak out against anything. Everyone is so tied down by political correctness etc.
That how you that SHTF scenario is coming soon, gotta get a strap soon

[poido123]

That how you that SHTF scenario is coming soon, gotta get a strap soon


Yeah.

Getting myself a piece. It's illegal where I live, but I'd be f.cked if I'm gonna bend over and take it and watch my family get raped etc.


I'm not going to be listening to blind mutha f.ckers telling me the world is ok and we just need to sit back and watch civilisation go to shit.

[DonD13]

you guys are legitimately sick in the head lmao

[Giaodollo]

Yeah.

Getting myself a piece. It's illegal where I live, but I'd be f.cked if I'm gonna bend over and take it and watch my family get raped etc.


I'm not going to be listening to blind mutha f.ckers telling me the world is ok and we just need to sit back and watch civilisation go to shit.

lmfao your fake hysteria is hilarious. It is like you actually believe a moslem is only coming to get welfare and rape your girls.

[Nick Young]

lmfao your fake hysteria is hilarious. It is like you actually believe a moslem is only coming to get welfare and rape your girls.
Well many are doing that to your women in Sweden (the statistics don't lie) but a majority of muslims definitely want a better life for themselves just like everyone else on the planet, and should be allowed that chance as long as they put in the work for it.

[poido123]

lmfao your fake hysteria is hilarious. It is like you actually believe a moslem is only coming to get welfare and rape your girls.



to the contrary.


I live in a world of head in the sand, it's not ALL .... people mentality.


Sure, we had problems with racism etc in the past, but it has created a severe over adjustment the other way. We now have leftists and do-gooders who will argue anything for the minority, even if it doesn't make sense. Just to fight the cause.


There are some really good Muslims, one's who may even be normal and free from radical influence. However, the world climate with ISIS and the exploitation of western countries sucking welfare, protesting against western customs, forcing their will etc will eventually create an Us v Them mentality.


You can try and play the good guy in all this, but this shit will only get worse and terrorist attacks will be frequent in western countries hereonin. Europe is experiencing the "joys" of Islamisation and the amazing contributions they make.

[pauk]

http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/Abandon.gif

[Dresta]

Fact is, unless Islam manages to clean itself up, there is going to be an ever-widening divide. The proportion of muslims that want to create one has increased considerably in the past decade or so, and they are working in such a way so as to widen it by making natives fearful (helped by the media headlining every beheading and act of barbarism - how rarely i hear about the atrocities committed by Shia militia against local Sunnis!). Fear usually leads to a backlash, which then can then be used to convince muslims abroad that the west is waging a war on Islam, and that they need to choose sides (also helped along by the media, for example, after the Lee Rigby killing, the Guardian ran with articles saying '2,000+ hate crimes in wake of Rigby killing' - this makes Muslims feel persecuted, and it simply isn't true: I looked into the numbers, and all but two were online offenses, and no one had even been injured - people insulting muslims on the internet portrayed as a 'wave of hate crimes').

But the reality is, that many of the muslim countries in the Middle East could have lessened these problems by actually attempting to route out and eradicate extremism, rather than cultivating it. So the actions of muslim nations are very much at the root of the problem, as are the bumbling fools in the US State Department, who support these countries, and have still not learnt their lesson when it comes to arming Islamists (how many times can they make this same mistake, geez).

I can't see where the reversal is going to come from, unfortunately. It's why i would advise against any immigration policy that leads to the kind of balkanisation i've seen in the UK and Netherlands in the first place; our unthinking acceptance of unskilled and uneducated muslim migrants has been (largely from Pakistan, where aspects of sharia are the norm, and women have a very different status) very clearly destructive. How utopian do you have to be to think one can mindlessly mix divergent cultures and expect no friction between them (especially when the native culture is so unsure of itself, and the imported one still so vigorous)?

Multiculturalism effectively means no culture, an absence of societal harmony, and neighbours all prostrate before their own alters, but with their backs turned to one another. This problem is not going to go away regardless of how badly some want to ignore it.

[tomtucker]

the more truth dresta writes the more negs he gets...:oldlol: ...........coward *****..fukk you all......get rid of rep jeff, it