Wait..all 3ball posts about is MJ..

[Imtheman]

Is this some sort of gimmick? If not, its pretty scary how obsessed he is for MJ..

[ISHGoat]

it has got to be.. atleast some of the kobe and lebron stans post about other things once in a while, but this guy is a one dimensional inefficient volume poster like my boy kobe

[Imtheman]

it has got to be.. atleast some of the kobe and lebron stans post about other things once in a while, but this guy is a one dimensional inefficient volume poster like my boy kobe
Its scary

[J Shuttlesworth]

Is this some sort of gimmick? If not, its pretty scary how obsessed he is for MJ..
He doesn't even enjoy watching NBA. He just looks for flaws so he can inflate his already biased opinion of MJ. Everything he posts is to make it seem like MJs era is the toughest and he had no help

[dubeta]

Even the Jordan stans here hate him :oldlol:

[3ball]

y'all ****** mad because i posted about MJ's documented 48 inch vertical... :facepalm

[ShawkFactory]

y'all ****** mad because i posted about MJ's documented 48 inch vertical... :facepalm
Hit the nail on the head there. No one cares about your constant thread derails and the copy and pasting bullshit. It's the 48 inch thing.

[imnew09]

y'all ****** mad because i posted about MJ's documented 48 inch vertical... :facepalm


48in Vertical Up your a$$

[LakersDaBEst]

48in Vertical Up your a$$

http://gifrific.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/kevin-garnett-reaction.gif

[3ball]

I posted about Chris Paul here:

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=11234398&postcount=92

[Imtheman]

48in Vertical Up your a$$
:roll:

[ShawkFactory]

I posted about Chris Paul here:

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=11234398&postcount=92
The fact that you have to reference when you talked about someone else...

[Imtheman]

We all know MJ is great..what exactly are you trying to prove?

[Lebron23]

48in Vertical Up your a$$

:oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:

[3ball]

The fact that you have to reference when you talked about someone else...
Nice.. I like to you use that same logic on other posters (regarding how pointing out an exception to the norm actually validates the existence of said norm).

I stick to facts though, that's all.. It's interesting how facts are the best jimmy rustlers

[Imtheman]

Nice.. I like to you use that same logic on other posters (regarding how pointing out an exception to the norm actually validates the existence of said norm).

I stick to facts though, that's all.. It's interesting how facts are the best jimmy rustlers
Most of the stuff you post though is your opinion

[ShawkFactory]

Nice.. I like to you use that same logic on other posters (regarding how pointing out an exception to the norm actually validates the existence of said norm).

I stick to facts though, that's all.. It's interesting how facts are the best jimmy rustlers
Yea but other trolls/Stans post a sentence or two. You literally clog everything. You're a more annoying version of dubeta

[Lebron23]

48in Vertical Up your a$$


http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/2689941/leblock.gif

[3ball]

Most of the stuff you post though is your opinion
It's a fact that various sources have documented MJ's 48 inch vertical... So I decided to post those sources' material.

That's not my opinion.. That's just the reality of what those sources documented.

When I posted the NBA's official statements (http://www.nba.com/2009/news/features/04/09/stujackson/index.html) saying the new rules had accomplished their primary objective of increasing penetration - that's straight from the source and creator of the rules themselves - so it's not subjective opinion just like Bill Gates' vision for Microsoft wasn't subjective opinion.

When I posted the rules from the old NBA rulebook showing that there was a legal paint-camping provision - again, that's not my opinion - those are just the rules - the rules said paint-camping was legal in previous eras.
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[game3524]

MJ stans are the worst.:oldlol:

[sportjames23]

MJ stans are the worst.:oldlol:


How'd Philly do this year?

[JohnMax]

3ball, who do you root for?

must be current team and player.

[game3524]

How'd Philly do this year?

18-64......every thing going as planned.:applause:

[sportjames23]

18-64......every thing going as planned.:applause:


LOL :cheers:

[Genaro]

I saw he once make a post about the Thunder (without mentioning MJx KD or WB)

[RepMe]

He is an obvious gimmick.

[JohnFreeman]

48in Vertical Up your a$$
http://img.pandawhale.com/post-47705-michael-jordan-shaking-head-no-PinG.gif

[3ball]

48in Vertical


http://gifsforum.com/images_new/gif/other/grand/fe0f065a2444efeaf5cc842bbc59ffbb.gif


http://media-cache-ec0.pinimg.com/736x/12/16/ae/1216aedac0840356aee74ed3ec665aca.jpg
http://gifsforum.com/images_new/gif/other/grand/7a0dfd2c3a222ad713c51357c3ed3316.jpeg
http://sports.mearsonlineauctions.com/ItemImages/000033/79c1d42e-a6c6-4207-adc6-d8b35af9ed25_lg.jpeg
https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSP4VB6PPMQ1iuchVua-B0-Bt31IZxqt9qr_kJUWB-ASvtcj-DJ
http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc272/umdatz/MJrimlevel_zps94088237.png
http://thebestten.files.wordpress.com/2010/01/michaeljordan1985.jpg?w=595&h=801
http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc272/umdatz/MJEwing_zps36f2be72.jpg
http://gifsforum.com/images_new/gif/other/grand/5c4e033c1a71be21c6ce27ed5a253d6f.jpeg

[navy]

lol, you really think mj had a 48 inch vert. :roll:

[DCL]

he's a bored 40 year old who likes to argue with 17 year olds on the internet

[RoundMoundOfReb]

48in Vertical Up your a$$
http://i.minus.com/i5HosGmv7H5a7.gif

[RoundMoundOfReb]

lol, you really think mj had a 48 inch vert. :roll:

That would mean MJ, from a standstill or with one-step (this is how "verticals" are measured), could get his head 6 inches above the rim :oldlol:

[aj1987]

48in Vertical Up your a$$
http://i.imgur.com/c8pMPUm.gif

[3ball]

lol, you really think mj had a 48 inch vert. :roll:
i know you can read and write, but can you do math?

because when MJ gets the top of his head level with the rim, that's a 44 inch vertical (10 feet minus 6'6" equals 44 inches).

we know he can jump at least that high, because there are numerous pictures showing the top of MJ's head level with the rim or slightly above (posted earlier itt).

so all he needs is a couple more inches in a test environment where he isn't contorting his body to shoot a basketball, but is specifically trying to jump high.

but maybe you can't do math or you're one of those people that just doesn't get math.. that's okay, there's a lot of people like that - math just doesn't make sense to them.. :confusedshrug:

[RoundMoundOfReb]

i know you can read and write, but can you do math?

because when MJ gets the top of his head level with the rim, that's a 44 inch vertical (10 feet minus 6'6" equals 44 inches).


Good god, you're a moron. 10 feet minus 6'6 is 42 inches not 44.

(10*12 - 78 = 42)

[DCL]

i know you can read and write, but can you do math?

because when MJ gets the top of his head level with the rim, that's a 44 inch vertical (10 feet minus 6'6" equals 44 inches).



:facepalm

[warriorfan]

fuccing kids take your medicine and listen up

[sdot_thadon]

Is this some sort of gimmick? If not, its pretty scary how obsessed he is for MJ..
Dammit you just spoiled the movie.

[JebronLames]

Lol wonder how he came up with his screen name. MJ had no 3ball.

[RoundMoundOfReb]

Lol wonder how he came up with his screen name. MJ had no 3ball.
It's because he's on MJ's dick so much he's basically his 3rd ball

[sdot_thadon]

Lol wonder how he came up with his screen name. MJ had no 3ball.
Bullshit, you didn't know? According to him Mj could transform into steph curry anytime he felt like it, he only chose to let us in on his secret in the 92 finals making wide open 3s lol.

[Giaodollo]

That would mean MJ, from a standstill or with one-step (this is how "verticals" are measured), could get his head 6 inches above the rim :oldlol:

They measure No-step Vertical (Standstill) and regular vertical (running) at most camps today.

[dunksby]

So this is a Jordan vertical thread now? That 3ball effect :lol

[Dr Hawk]

So this is a Jordan vertical thread now? That 3ball effect :lol

Pure domination

[Prometheus]

i know you can read and write, but can you do math?

because when MJ gets the top of his head level with the rim, that's a 44 inch vertical (10 feet minus 6'6" equals 44 inches).

we know he can jump at least that high, because there are numerous pictures showing the top of MJ's head level with the rim or slightly above (posted earlier itt).

so all he needs is a couple more inches in a test environment where he isn't contorting his body to shoot a basketball, but is specifically trying to jump high.

but maybe you can't do math or you're one of those people that just doesn't get math.. that's okay, there's a lot of people like that - math just doesn't make sense to them.. :confusedshrug:

http://www.totalprosports.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/skateboard-basketball-fail.gif

[nba_55]

I think it's time to give 3ball the SacJBshady treatement.

STFU 3BALL

[ThickassGlasses]

We can add Math on to the long list of 3Ball's weak points.

[JerrySeinfeld]

He doesn't even enjoy watching NBA. He just looks for flaws so he can inflate his already biased opinion of MJ. Everything he posts is to make it seem like MJs era is the toughest and he had no help

rent free

[ralph_i_el]

It's because he's on MJ's dick so much he's basically his 3rd ball
:bowdown:

[3ball]

i know you can read and write, but can you do math?

because when MJ gets the top of his head level with the rim, that's a 44 inch vertical (10 feet minus 6'6" equals 44 inches).

but maybe you can't do math or you're one of those people that just doesn't get math.. that's okay, there's a lot of people like that - math just doesn't make sense to them.. :confusedshrug:



this ^^^^^^ is a troll.. The armband-at-the-square, mouth-at-rim, 48-inch vertical below is not:


http://gifsforum.com/images_new/gif/other/grand/7a0dfd2c3a222ad713c51357c3ed3316.jpeg

[KingBeasley08]

every post this dude makes is about MJ. He reminds me of that b!tch from Misery who gets so obsessed that she kidnaps the dude she's in love with.

someone needs to make sure MJ is safe from this dude

[aj1987]

this ^^^^^^ is a troll.. The armband-at-the-square, mouth-at-rim, 48-inch vertical below is not:


http://gifsforum.com/images_new/gif/other/grand/7a0dfd2c3a222ad713c51357c3ed3316.jpeg
You mean 40" vert? Not to mention the retarded defenses. No wonder, it's harder to dunk compared to the soft ass era.

[RoundMoundOfReb]

https://uproxx.files.wordpress.com/2012/12/lebron.png

45 inch vertical :bowdown: ...(definitely not because of the camera angle)

[3ball]

http://gifsforum.com/images_new/gif/other/grand/7a0dfd2c3a222ad713c51357c3ed3316.jpeg

Not to mention the retarded defenses. No wonder, it's harder to dunk compared to the soft ass era.


You mean all 5 defenders standing in the paint?.. That never happens in today's game because of spacing and defensive 3 seconds.

Also, you have it backwards on the dunking - it was HARDER to dunk in the 80's.

The data shows (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=373532) dunking was less frequent in the 80's, primarily because of the same type of packed paints (all 5 guys in the paint) that you identified in the MJ picture above.

[Prometheus]

this ^^^^^^ is a troll.. The armband-at-the-square, mouth-at-rim, 48-inch vertical below is not:


http://gifsforum.com/images_new/gif/other/grand/7a0dfd2c3a222ad713c51357c3ed3316.jpeg

We had a discussion about this exact picture a long time ago, but I'll repeat my point here:

The angle makes Jordan appear higher (relative to the rim) than he actually is. If you doubt this, please ask yourself why the far side of the rim appears higher than the near side. The same phenomenon is making it appear that Jordan's head is higher than it really is.

The top of his head was actually level with the rim when this shot was taken.

[TheMan]

Even the Jordan stans here hate him :oldlol:
I wouldn't say hate but he makes people dislike MJ more because of his obsession.

[Asukal]

3ball is a gimmick account. Probably some loser lebeta stan or loseruss. :whatever:

[3ball]

http://gifsforum.com/images_new/gif/other/grand/7a0dfd2c3a222ad713c51357c3ed3316.jpeg


the far side of the rim appears higher than the near side. The same phenomenon is making it appear that Jordan's head is higher than it really is.


For a camera to distort the spacing in a picture, there must be actual space for it to distort, like the space between the rim.. A basketball hoop has the diameter of two basketballs - two basketballs can simultaneously fit inside every rim.. So obviously, there was plenty of space for the camera to distort, which is why the far side of the rim looks higher than the near side.

Otoh, there is little or no space between Jordan's mouth and the rim, therefore there's no space for the camera to distort - that's how we know the MJ pic is not distorted - there is no space between Jordan's mouth and the rim for the camera TO distort.

[oarabbus]

48in Vertical Up your a$$


http://giant.gfycat.com/WarmheartedThinKitty.gif

[Lebron23]

3ball makes me hate MJ. And I love MJ, and his bald head.

[oarabbus]

For a camera to distort the spacing in a picture, there must be actual space for it to distort, like the space between the rim.. A basketball hoop has the diameter of two basketballs - two basketballs can simultaneously fit inside every rim.. So obviously, there was plenty of space for the camera to distort, which is why the far side of the rim looks higher than the near side.

Otoh, there is little or no space between Jordan's mouth and the rim, therefore there's no space for the camera to distort - that's how we know the MJ pic is not distorted - there is no space between Jordan's mouth and the rim for the camera TO distort.


3ball math fail again

Basketball regulation diameter is 9.48 inches
Hoop diameter is 18 inches

If you can do math you will realize two basketballs cannot fit inside the rim simultaneously (unless you went Bellichick and deflated the balls). And you will also realize there is a lot of space between Jordan's mouth and the rim.

[LeBird]

I wouldn't say hate but he makes people dislike MJ more because of his obsession.

Nah, he's a shittier version of you. You make people dislike MJ and he makes them hate him.

:cheers:

[3ball]

and you will also realize there is a lot of space between Jordan's mouth and the rim.


No there isn't - there's no space between Jordan's mouth and the rim - a couple inches tops, which is why there's nothing for the camera to distort

that's how you know Jordan is at mouth-level to the rim and it's not distorted - there's no space for the camera TO distort

i basically murdered prometheus using his own argument.. again.. it's becoming quite standard.
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[dunksby]

For a camera to distort the spacing in a picture, there must be actual space for it to distort, like the space between the rim. A basketball hoop has the diameter of two basketballs - two basketballs can simultaneously fit inside every rim.. So obviously, there was plenty of space for the camera to distort, which is why the far side of the rim looks higher than the near side.


:eek: :eek:

[oarabbus]

No there isn't - there's no space between Jordan's mouth and the rim - a couple inches tops, which is why there's nothing for the camera to distort

that's how you know Jordan is at mouth-level to the rim and it's not distorted - there's no space for the camera TO distort

i basically murdered prometheus using his own argument.. again.. it's becoming quite standard.
.


Can you prove there is no space between his mouth and the rim? One could easily say there is a lot of space

[LongLiveTheKing]

I'm almost sure 3Ball runs a Facebook page called 'Nobody Touches Jordan" all he does is bring up MJ in random NBA accounts

[3ball]

3ball math fail again

Basketball regulation diameter is 9.48 inches
Hoop diameter is 18 inches

If you can do math you will realize two basketballs cannot fit inside the rim simultaneously (unless you went Bellichick and deflated the balls). And you will also realize there is a lot of space between Jordan's mouth and the rim.


http://www.nba.com/canada/Basketball_U_Game_Court-Canada_Generic_Article-18039.html

No troll this time - from the NBA.com website:

Basket: The ring and net through which the ball must pass in order to score a field goal. The basket ring is 10 feet above the floor and measures 18 inches in diameter.

Basketball: The game ball, which is nine inches in diameter, with between 7.5 and 8.5 pounds pressure.

[3ball]

Can you prove there is no space between his mouth and the rim?


Because unlike the massive gap of space plainly visible between each side of the rim (confirming the 18-inch distance we know is there), there's no visible space between MJ's mouth and the rim - it looks like they're touching - when I originally posted the picture, I said MJ was doing the "kiss the rim" dunk.

[Lebron23]

MICHAEL JORDAN SONG I WANNA BE LIKE MIKE LYRICS

Sometimes I dream
That he is me
You've got to see that's how I dream to be
I dream I move, I dream I groove
Like Mike
If I could Be Like Mike
Like Mike
Oh, if I could Be Like Mike
Be Like Mike, Be Like Mike
Again I try
Just need to fly
For just one day if I could
Be that way
I dream I move
I dream I groove
Like Mike
If I could Be Like Mike
I wanna be, I wanna be
Like Mike
Oh, if I could Be Like Mike
Kiuas Behind The Glass Lyrics
37.14
Autumn Epilogue (what's done is

[ILLsmak]

y'all ****** mad because i posted about MJ's documented 48 inch vertical... :facepalm

u out ur dam mind if u think MJ really had a 48 inch vert. 42 OK.

With his height and his vert that puts his head well over the rim. The thing is, with that much extra space, he would be over the rim like every time. It's not like he'd say... well I'm gonna just do a little bunny hop this time. It would be hard for him to jump and not get his head almost above the rim.

The difference between 42 and 48 is huge tho.

I'm not buying that MJ had the highest vert in NBA history. I'm not even fully buying it'd be 42... cuz that's also pretty great. That's getting into Spud Webb range when you get beyond 42. Not saying other people haven't had that jump, but you don't really see 'documented' 48s. Unless they are some youtube guy who only dunks or maybe a football player? It could be possible for them because they don't have to run for 48 minutes.

-Smak

[3ball]

http://gifsforum.com/images_new/gif/other/grand/7a0dfd2c3a222ad713c51357c3ed3316.jpeg

http://sports.mearsonlineauctions.com/ItemImages/000033/79c1d42e-a6c6-4207-adc6-d8b35af9ed25_med.jpeg


I'm not even fully buying it'd be 42


In addition to the pictures above, there are many more pictures showing MJ's head at the rim - MJ's head at the rim means 42 inch vertical, even if you don't think his head went OVER the rim - now if you don't think he'd jump higher than 42 inches in a test environment (when he's not contorting his body to make a basket), than you're not being rational.

Of course, the reality is that the first picture above shows MJ mouth-level with the rim.. As I was telling a previous poster, MJ's height relative to the rim cannot be distorted in that picture, because there must be actual space for the camera to distort - there's no space between MJ's mouth and the rim, so there is nothing for the camera to distort.

[Euroleague]

No, he has that absurd troll thread about international basketball also, where he and some other Bulls fan troll try to claim that international basketball was better back in 1992 in the days of the Dream Team.............

no doubt trying to make it seem like Jordan also played against the "best international teams ever".

When in truth, the best international teams from 1992 would get completely annihilated against even average international teams from today.

The guy is completely obsessed Jordan troll.

[Euroleague]

Hey 3ball, Nikos Galis scored 50 points against Jordan when Jordan was at North Carolina................

That's a documented fact.

Enjoy your day.

[Euroleague]

lol, you really think mj had a 48 inch vert. :roll:

Thanasis Antetokounmpo grabbed the marker about 4-5 inches above the 40 inch vertical mark at the draft combine.

They only listed his vertical at 40 inches because the rules of the measurements are you can only jump on the measurement you are taking and can't do it over once you are registered for that jump. It's just concrete set in rules.

They got it mixed up when he was going to jump, it should have been set at 46 inches and not 40 inches. Reason being, no one ever at his standing reach jumped that high ever before, so simply put they had it put at 40 inches by default. He would have needed to tell them to put it at 46 inches before he jumped, for the highest touch he had above 40 to count, due to their rules.

Then it looked like he grabbed about 4-5 inches above the 40 mark.

So it just said he hit 40 inches, when he actually hit who the hell knows how high for sure (but it looked about 44-45), because they measure from where the top of your finger hits.

So, if Thanasis Antetokounmpo could jump that high, and he's basically the identical build as Jordan, why is it impossible to think Jordan at his athletic peak could not do it?

You can see the video of it on draftexpress where they talk about it, how Thanasis took the wrong measurement, because he didn't realize he needed to tell them before the test that he could jump over 40, because they would not let him jump again, then the video of him touching over 40 in that actual test, but the listing of his vertical only being put at 40. Since I am sure you claim this is made up, you can see the proof yourself.

So yeah, if Thanasis could get nearly that high, I don't see how it is completely out of the question that Jordan could also. Think about it rationally. So Thanasis Antetokounmpo, doing one test jump got like 44-45 inches, then obviously, if he did let's say what, 10, 15, 20 jump tests, he might possibly at his best ever jump in all of those get little bit higher in one jump or another at just one particular leap. Whereas the test jump, is just the best you do that one specific time you go in the test.

So, using T. Antetokounmpo as a comparison, like maybe Jordan did 48 inches ONE time, say it was his best jump ever, and then some media and NBA marketing people just kept claiming that was his "normal" jump. Like Nike for example just kept spreading that around as his "normal jump", but only did it once. But his actual normal jump in a combine test setting was more like 44-45 or something like that similar with Thanasis.

I can believe this kind of example more so than I can believe this insane and ludicrous stuff from CavsFTW, about how Wilt had a 48 to 50 inch vertical, and all of that completely ridiculous nonsense.

[Euroleague]

u out ur dam mind if u think MJ really had a 48 inch vert. 42 OK.

With his height and his vert that puts his head well over the rim. The thing is, with that much extra space, he would be over the rim like every time. It's not like he'd say... well I'm gonna just do a little bunny hop this time. It would be hard for him to jump and not get his head almost above the rim.

The difference between 42 and 48 is huge tho.

I'm not buying that MJ had the highest vert in NBA history. I'm not even fully buying it'd be 42... cuz that's also pretty great. That's getting into Spud Webb range when you get beyond 42. Not saying other people haven't had that jump, but you don't really see 'documented' 48s. Unless they are some youtube guy who only dunks or maybe a football player? It could be possible for them because they don't have to run for 48 minutes.

-Smak

Thanasis Antetokounmpo got about 4-5 inches over the 40 inch mark at the draft combine. They only listed it at 40 because no one his size ever went over that mark.

They didn't have a 46 test.

They talked about it at draftexpress and have video of it, also the video of him touching well over 40 inches.

Here is what it looks like, a guy that is 6-6 to 6-7, 7-0 wingspan with a 44 to 45 inch vertical (it looks like that is about how high he touched over 40 inches in the DX video).................


Here is what that looks like, in practical terms in game......

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Wxk3Q7UR-4


You can compare that to Jordan. And yes, Thanasis is WAY, WAY, WAY more athletic than his brother Giannis is.

[Prometheus]

For a camera to distort the spacing in a picture, there must be actual space for it to distort, like the space between the rim.. A basketball hoop has the diameter of two basketballs - two basketballs can simultaneously fit inside every rim.. So obviously, there was plenty of space for the camera to distort, which is why the far side of the rim looks higher than the near side.

Otoh, there is little or no space between Jordan's mouth and the rim, therefore there's no space for the camera to distort - that's how we know the MJ pic is not distorted - there is no space between Jordan's mouth and the rim for the camera TO distort.

:wtf:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YeYOYoiuKGw Here is the video. It's the first dunk. As you can see, he's moving toward the basket, not just straight up. So if there was no space between his mouth and the rim, Mike would have had his teeth knocked out. Or if it was "only a few inches", the dunk would have been super awkward as he wouldn't have been able to extend his arms.

You're obviously not completely dumb... you have good language and rhetoric skills... but when it comes to spatial recognition, I think you might actually be retarded.

[Prometheus]

Nah, he's a shittier version of you. You make people dislike MJ and he makes them hate him.

:cheers:

3ball's posting has absolutely no effect on how I feel about Michael Jordan. MJ is and will always be my favorite athlete.

All 3ball does is make me dislike 3ball.

[Dr.J4ever]

Thanasis Antetokounmpo got about 4-5 inches over the 40 inch mark at the draft combine. They only listed it at 40 because no one his size ever went over that mark.

They didn't have a 46 test.

They talked about it at draftexpress and have video of it, also the video of him touching well over 40 inches.

Here is what it looks like, a guy that is 6-6 to 6-7, 7-0 wingspan with a 44 to 45 inch vertical (it looks like that is about how high he touched over 40 inches in the DV video).................


Here is what that looks like, in practical terms in game......

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Wxk3Q7UR-4


You can compare that to Jordan. And yes, Thanasis is WAY, WAY, WAY more athletic than his brother Giannis is.

Hey El, I don't mean to derail the thread which is a bunch of nonsense anyway, but how is Saric doing in the EL, in your opinion? Will he become better than Mirotic?

[Roundball_Rock]

It is pathetic. The 2015 playoffs just started and all this guy is still posting about is about MJ. :roll:

[AirBourne92]

48in Vertical Up your a$$

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lx9jb1SPMr1qdrpdr.gif

[TheMan]

Nah, he's a shittier version of you. You make people dislike MJ and he makes them hate him.

:cheers:
OTOH, you/TonyMontana (same poster), make people laugh at your retarded notion that James > Jordan :cheers:

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

It is pathetic. The 2015 playoffs just started and all this guy is still posting about is about MJ. :roll:
Did you read one of my posts the other day regarding 3ball? I literally said the same thing. Verbatim. :oldlol: Playoffs are here, best time of the year for NBA fans, and all this guy is thinking of is spamming Jordan gifs/talking about MJ like he is some cult leader recruiting disciples.

Something about guy just strikes me as off.

[TheMan]

It is pathetic. The 2015 playoffs just started and all this guy is still posting about is about MJ. :roll:
It bothers me too, we can talk about MJ and other past greats in the offseason when nothing else is going on but right now? I'm pretty sure he's just trolling.

[secund2nun]

It is pathetic. The 2015 playoffs just started and all this guy is still posting about is about MJ. :roll:

He is like one of those Japanese WW2 soldiers in the remote pacific Islands that kept fighting until the 70s and even 80s because they either didn't get word that the war ended or refused to believe that Japan surrendered :roll:

3ball is the worst player stan on here by far. He will almost never talk about anything other than Jordan and will try to twist every unrelated thread into a Jordan topic. He is worse than all of the other stans combined.

[3ball]

No, he has that absurd troll thread about international basketball also, where he and some other Bulls fan troll try to make claims about the quality of international basketball


Wow - what a blatant lie.. That thread said nothing about the quality of international basketball - the entire thread was about the erosion of the USA's brand of basketball and skills, as proven by their 7 losses with All-NBA talent versus Euroleague talent.. The US lost repeatedly on the biggest, most important stage (world stage) despite having a GOAT talent advantage - that's all the thread is about and discusses:

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=373182

Anytime a team has more talent and loses, it's because their brand of basketball and skill at playing the game is inferior.. In this case, the USA's losses despite having a GOAT talent advantage proves the skill was VASTLY inferior - enough to sufficiently offset the massive talent gap and lose repeatedly to Euroleague with All-NBA talent, thus proving that particular era is the weakest the NBA has ever produced.

You think Arroyo is pumping his jersey and punking Magic, Bird, Jordan, and Stockton?.. Of course not - he was the 3rd backup PG behind 40-year old Stockton on the 2003 Jazz.. It was a whole different level of player in previous eras.
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[3ball]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YeYOYoiuKGw Here is the video. It's the first dunk. As you can see, he's moving toward the basket, not just straight up. So if there was no space between his mouth and the rim, Mike would have had his teeth knocked out. Or if it was "only a few inches", the dunk would have been super awkward as he wouldn't have been able to extend his arms.


That's not how dunking or athleticism works - players' heads are higher than the backboard on MOST jumps, but it's very rare to ever see them hit their head on the backboard - maybe once in literally 10,000 times..

Same thing with the rim - we've seen Gerald Green and several others get their head over the rim many times, but do they fly headlong into the rim and hit their head on it?... Of course not... When players dunk, it's instinctive to jump in a way where you'll have a safe landing.. You'd know that if you could dunk... :pimp:

[Prometheus]

That's not how dunking or athleticism works - players' heads are higher than the backboard on MOST jumps, but it's very rare to ever see them hit their head on the backboard - maybe once in literally 10,000 times..

Same thing with the rim - we've seen Gerald Green and several others get their head over the rim many times, but do they fly headlong into the rim and hit their head on it?... Of course not... When players dunk, it's instinctive to jump in a way where you'll have a safe landing.. You'd know that if you could dunk... :pimp:

Exactly, such as keeping a little space between your face and the rim

:facepalm

No need to make fun of me for not being tall enough bruh. That's uncalled for. And I grew up with and adjustable net, so I dunked plenty on a 9'.

:mad:

[3ball]

http://sports.mearsonlineauctions.com/ItemImages/000033/79c1d42e-a6c6-4207-adc6-d8b35af9ed25_med.jpeg

http://gifsforum.com/images_new/gif/other/grand/7a0dfd2c3a222ad713c51357c3ed3316.jpeg


Exactly, such as keeping a little space between your face and the rim


Exactly - a little - not enough to be visible in the 2nd picture shown above and not enough for the camera to distort.

Otoh, it's very easy to see the 18 inches of space between the far and near side of the rim - you're the one who pointed out this visible space - you then accurately stated the camera had distorted this visible space to make it look like the near side of the rim was lower than the far side...

But now you want to apply the same logic even though there is no visible space.. It's erroneous and not rational.

Also, regardless of what you think about the angle in the 2nd picture above, the FIRST PICTURE is a modern angle - that clearly shows MJ's head at the rim, which would be 42 inches... It's simply not rational to think he wouldn't jump several inches higher in a test environment when he's not contorting his body.
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[Prometheus]

Exactly - a little - not enough to be visible in the still picture shown above and not enough for the camera to distort.

Otoh, it's very easy to see the 18 inches of space between the far and near side of the rim - you're the one who pointed out this visible space - you then accurately stated the camera had distorted this visible space to make it look like the near side of the rim was lower than the far side...

But now you want to apply the same logic even though there is no visible space.. It's erroneous and not rational.

"Visible space"... doesn't exist when it comes to depth. You gather all of your perception of depth from things like angles, shading, and size-proportions. The information gathered by your eyes is entirely two-dimensional - it is your brain that generates your sense of a third dimension.

Like I said, your spatial intelligence honestly seems retarded.

[3ball]

"Visible space"... doesn't exist when it comes to depth.


visible space DOES EXIST when you're looking down at an angle, like we are here - so that proves you are wrong - we are looking down at an angle, so visible space DOES exist.. checkmate.. however, we can't see any visible space between MJ's mouth and the rim because there is none.
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[3ball]

http://sports.mearsonlineauctions.com/ItemImages/000033/79c1d42e-a6c6-4207-adc6-d8b35af9ed25_med.jpeg


Also, the picture above is the type of angle cameras routinely show today - it clearly shows MJ's head at the rim, which would be 42 inches...

It's simply not rational to think he wouldn't jump several inches higher in a test environment when he's not contorting his body.

[Prometheus]

visible space DOES EXIST when you're looking down at an angle, like we are here - so that proves you are wrong - we are looking down at an angle, so visible space DOES exist.. checkmate.. however, we can't see any visible space between MJ's mouth and the rim because there is none.
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:facepalm :facepalm :facepalm

So retarded.

[3ball]

:facepalm :facepalm :facepalm

So retarded.
what's wrong about it SPECIFICALLY - visible space DOES EXIST when we're looking down at an angle, as we are in that pic.. so you're wrong on that.. there's no way around it.

[oarabbus]

http://sports.mearsonlineauctions.com/ItemImages/000033/79c1d42e-a6c6-4207-adc6-d8b35af9ed25_med.jpeg


Also, the picture above is the type of angle cameras routinely show today - it clearly shows MJ's head at the rim, which would be 42 inches...

It's simply not rational to think he wouldn't jump several inches higher in a test environment when he's not contorting his body.


MJ is clearly below the rim, you can see his eyes peering up towards the rim. Just like in the other picture his mouth is very far from the rim andd he is clearly below the rim.

[3ball]

MJ is clearly below the rim, you can see his eyes peering up towards the rim.


who cares about his eyes - his eyes are 4-5 inches below the top of his head - the top of MJ's head is what we are concerned about.

when the top of MJ's head is level with the rim, that's 42 inch vertical - and that's what the picture shows..

considering he's contorting his body, it makes sense that he'd jump several inches higher in a test environment when he's not trying to put the ball thru the hoop.

[3ball]

No, he has that absurd troll thread about international basketball also, where he and some other Bulls fan troll try to make claims about the quality of international basketball


Wow - what a blatant lie.. That thread said nothing about the quality of international basketball - the entire thread was about the erosion of the USA's brand of basketball and skills, as proven by their 7 losses with All-NBA talent versus Euroleague talent.. The US lost repeatedly on the biggest, most important stage (world stage) despite having a GOAT talent advantage - that's all the thread is about and discusses:

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=373182

Anytime a team has more talent and loses, it's because their brand of basketball and skill at playing the game is inferior.. In this case, the USA's losses despite having a GOAT talent advantage proves the skill was VASTLY inferior - enough to sufficiently offset the massive talent gap and lose repeatedly to Euroleague with All-NBA talent, thus proving that particular era is the weakest the NBA has ever produced.

You think Arroyo is pumping his jersey and punking Magic, Bird, Jordan, and Stockton?.. Of course not - he was the 3rd backup PG behind 40-year old Stockton on the 2003 Jazz.. It was a whole different level of player in previous eras.

[navy]

MJ never reached 48 inches in a game or a contest. If you want to argue that one time in practice he reached a crazy height like that then go ahead.

[oarabbus]

who cares about his eyes - his eyes are 4-5 inches below the top of his head - the top of MJ's head is what we are concerned about.

when the top of MJ's head is level with the rim, that's 42 inch vertical - and that's what the picture shows..

considering he's contorting his body, it makes sense that he'd jump several inches higher in a test environment when he's not trying to put the ball thru the hoop.

The top of his head is below the rim. 1-2" below.

[3ball]

http://gifsforum.com/images_new/gif/other/grand/ea1c7e53f83495db3c80c5346f2da98c.gif


The top of his head is below the rim. 1-2" below.


nah, he's at rim level.. you're just desperate.. all you have left is to defy what you see..

and that photo is before he ducks his head to avoid it hitting the rim as you see in the GIF above..

and again, he's contorting his body - in a test environment, he jumps several inches higher.

[3ball]

nah, he's at rim level.. you're just desperate.. all you have left is to defy what you see..

and that photo is before he ducks his head to avoid it hitting the rim as you see in the GIF above..

and again, he's contorting his body - in a test environment, he jumps several inches higher.
oh, AND we have many more pictures of MJ with his head at the rim (links posted below), AND his vertical was documented by Tim Grover and University of North Carolina:

Tim Grover documented Jordan's vertical at his sports academy... http://www.si.com/edge/2014/10/16/tim-grover-talent-isnt-enough


Here is a study done by researchers at UNC on Jordan's vertical... http://www.jospt.org/doi/pdf/10.2519/jospt.1999.29.1.A1



Pictures with MJ's head at the rim:


http://media-cache-ec0.pinimg.com/736x/12/16/ae/1216aedac0840356aee74ed3ec665aca.jpg
http://gifsforum.com/images_new/gif/other/grand/7a0dfd2c3a222ad713c51357c3ed3316.jpeg
http://sports.mearsonlineauctions.com/ItemImages/000033/79c1d42e-a6c6-4207-adc6-d8b35af9ed25_lg.jpeg
https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSP4VB6PPMQ1iuchVua-B0-Bt31IZxqt9qr_kJUWB-ASvtcj-DJ
http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc272/umdatz/MJrimlevel_zps94088237.png
http://thebestten.files.wordpress.com/2010/01/michaeljordan1985.jpg?w=595&h=801
http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc272/umdatz/MJEwing_zps36f2be72.jpg
http://gifsforum.com/images_new/gif/other/grand/5c4e033c1a71be21c6ce27ed5a253d6f.jpeg


But I'll take your guys' word for it and ignore my own eyes along with the documentation from reputable sources.. :eyeroll:
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[oarabbus]

oh, AND we have many more pictures of MJ with his head at the rim (links posted below), AND his vertical was documented by Tim Grover and University of North Carolina:

Tim Grover documented Jordan's vertical at his sports academy... http://www.si.com/edge/2014/10/16/tim-grover-talent-isnt-enough


Here is a study done by researchers at UNC on Jordan's vertical... http://www.jospt.org/doi/pdf/10.2519/jospt.1999.29.1.A1



Pictures with MJ's head at the rim:


http://media-cache-ec0.pinimg.com/736x/12/16/ae/1216aedac0840356aee74ed3ec665aca.jpg
http://gifsforum.com/images_new/gif/other/grand/7a0dfd2c3a222ad713c51357c3ed3316.jpeg
http://sports.mearsonlineauctions.com/ItemImages/000033/79c1d42e-a6c6-4207-adc6-d8b35af9ed25_lg.jpeg
https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSP4VB6PPMQ1iuchVua-B0-Bt31IZxqt9qr_kJUWB-ASvtcj-DJ
http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc272/umdatz/MJrimlevel_zps94088237.png
http://thebestten.files.wordpress.com/2010/01/michaeljordan1985.jpg?w=595&h=801
http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc272/umdatz/MJEwing_zps36f2be72.jpg
http://gifsforum.com/images_new/gif/other/grand/5c4e033c1a71be21c6ce27ed5a253d6f.jpeg


But I'll take your guys' word for it and ignore my own eyes along with the documentation from reputable sources.. :eyeroll:
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http://i.imgur.com/vCPS8Ch.jpg

Westbrooks vert >>>> Jordans vert AND he is much shorter; here you can see what an athlete truly looks like when he contorts his body to not hit the rim.


Westbrook :bowdown:

[LeBird]

OTOH, you/TonyMontana (same poster), make people laugh at your retarded notion that James > Jordan :cheers:
You need to learn to troll right. All-time Jordan > James.

[oarabbus]

nah, he's at rim level.. you're just desperate.. all you have left is to defy what you see..

and that photo is before he ducks his head to avoid it hitting the rim as you see in the GIF above..

and again, he's contorting his body - in a test environment, he jumps several inches higher.

His head is below the rim.

[dunksby]

http://i.imgur.com/vCPS8Ch.jpg

Westbrooks vert >>>> Jordans vert AND he is much shorter; here you can see what an athlete truly looks like when he contorts his body to not hit the rim.


Westbrook :bowdown:
:bowdown:

[3ball]

:bowdown:
originally, i didn't even bother respond to the westbrook picture - not only does everyone know westbrook can't jump anywhere near as high as MJ (he doesn't have dunk contest hops like MJ), but i figured oarrabus was just posting a picture of westbrook's head hitting the backboard.

his head clearly hits the backboard and is 6-8 inches below the rim.
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[warriorfan]

http://sports.mearsonlineauctions.com/ItemImages/000033/79c1d42e-a6c6-4207-adc6-d8b35af9ed25_med.jpeg


Also, the picture above is the type of angle cameras routinely show today - it clearly shows MJ's head at the rim, which would be 42 inches...

It's simply not rational to think he wouldn't jump several inches higher in a test environment when he's not contorting his body.


http://gifrific.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/kevin-garnett-reaction.gif

[dunksby]

originally, i didn't even bother respond to the westbrook picture - not only does everyone know westbrook can't jump anywhere near as high as MJ (he doesn't have dunk contest hops like MJ), but i figured oarrabus was just posting a picture of westbrook's head hitting the backboard.

his head clearly hits the backboard and is 6-8 inches below the rim.
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I'm a Westbrook fan so I enjoy his dunks, doesn't have to do with MJ at all, look at that dunk :bowdown: :bowdown:

[Micku]

I'm a Westbrook fan so I enjoy his dunks, doesn't have to do with MJ at all, look at that dunk :bowdown: :bowdown:

Everything about basketball ever since 98 has everything to do with MJ. Everything. =(

[Euroleague]

Wow - what a blatant lie.. That thread said nothing about the quality of international basketball - the entire thread was about the erosion of the USA's brand of basketball and skills, as proven by their 7 losses with All-NBA talent versus Euroleague talent.. The US lost repeatedly on the biggest, most important stage (world stage) despite having a GOAT talent advantage - that's all the thread is about and discusses:

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=373182

Anytime a team has more talent and loses, it's because their brand of basketball and skill at playing the game is inferior.. In this case, the USA's losses despite having a GOAT talent advantage proves the skill was VASTLY inferior - enough to sufficiently offset the massive talent gap and lose repeatedly to Euroleague with All-NBA talent, thus proving that particular era is the weakest the NBA has ever produced.

You think Arroyo is pumping his jersey and punking Magic, Bird, Jordan, and Stockton?.. Of course not - he was the 3rd backup PG behind 40-year old Stockton on the 2003 Jazz.. It was a whole different level of player in previous eras.
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According to that thread,


1. 1988 "Russia", it was actually the Soviet Union, not "Russia", was "the greatest international team ever".........

2. Carlos Arroyo "completely dominated and destroyed the Euroleague for years"......

3. 1992 Croatia would "without any question easily destroy, crush, and annihilate current Croatia, as well as every other international team in the world today" - all because "they had 5 NBA players on their roster".....

4. Arvydas Sabonis is "easily by far and away the greatest international big man of all time"...............

5. Not one single NBA fan could possibly name a single Croatian player today, nor could there possibly be a single Croatian player today playing in the NBA.

6. Having NBA players in your national team automatically guarantees that you will dominate in international basketball and win medals.

7. I could go on and on listing endless more absurd and ridiculous bullshit that was said in that thread by a bunch of retarded trolls.


Yeah, that thread is one of the biggest jokes of all time. It is a colossal troll fest and broke down into nothing more than you and Rooster (perhaps the biggest troll in the entire forum) responding back and forth to each other, trying to out troll each other.

That whole thread is a complete joke.

[3ball]

1988 "Russia", it was actually the Soviet Union, not "Russia", was "the greatest international team ever".........


Face the facts Euroleague, the NBA in the early-mid 2000's couldn't beat Euroleague!!!!!!!!!

That proves it's the weakest era the NBA has ever had - there's no other way to interpret the NBA getting smashed by Euroleague.. get over it

I thought you'd be happy that the NBA couldn't beat Euroleague, Euroleague