View Full Version : Wilt Chamberlain, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar and Anthony Davis playoff start pts comparison:
CavaliersFTW
04-18-2015, 08:57 PM
Chamberlain:
35 points 27 reb 3 assists NBA Playoffs debut in a winning effort
38.7ppg NBA Playoffs series debut - won the series
Jabbar:
36 points 20 rebounds 4 assists NBA Playoffs debut in a winning effort
36.2ppg NBA Playoffs series debut - won the series
Davis:
35 points 7 rebounds 1 assist (1 steal 4 blocks) NBA Playoffs debut in a losing effort
PPG and series outcome yet to be determined
Should also point out that Chamberlain and Kareem did this as rookies. Davis is already in his 3rd season.
Just trying to put some historical context into what Davis is doing thus far. It's great, the list of players who've done better is small, so far the only two I can think of from strictly a points angle is Jabbar and Chamberlain.
RoundMoundOfReb
04-18-2015, 08:58 PM
True but adjusted to today's league, Chamberlain's 35 points is equivalent to about 7.2. Not really all that impressive, IMO.
CavaliersFTW
04-18-2015, 09:01 PM
True but adjusted to today's league, Chamberlain's 35 points is equivalent to about 7.2. Not really all that impressive, IMO.
Re-adjusted for today's rules and competition it's about 78 points actually. GOAT time traveler debut :applause:
Sarcastic
04-18-2015, 09:23 PM
I'm assuming Wilt and Alcindor didn't just score all their points in garbage time in the 4th, when the other team took their feet off the gas?
Also do you have rebound, assist, and/or block totals?
CavaliersFTW
04-18-2015, 09:29 PM
I'm assuming Wilt and Alcindor didn't just score all their points in garbage time in the 4th, when the other team took their feet off the gas?
Also do you have rebound, assist, and/or block totals?
I don't, they aren't on bball ref so it's all up to newspapers to find them unless NBAstats.net or any posters have them. I'll try and give the newspaper archives a look tonight after I get home from the bar. I briefly glanced at Wilt's G1 playoff newspaper article and it said Arizin his teammate scored 40 that night and was a perfect 17 for 17 from the line so Wilt wasn't his teams leading scorer that first game, but it said he scored most of his points in the first period, and fourth period to put the game away.
Blue&Orange
04-18-2015, 09:58 PM
Just trying to put some historical context into what Davis is doing thus far.
Thanks for the pile of meaningless crap.
LAZERUSS
04-18-2015, 10:01 PM
Thanks for the pile of meaningless crap.
And no thanks to you for a meaningless piece of crap reply.
GTFO.
Psileas
04-18-2015, 10:01 PM
Kareem had 36/20/4. Sat for 9 minutes, as well.
Wilt had 35/27/3.
Really great debuts for both.
sd3035
04-18-2015, 10:04 PM
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LAZERUSS
04-18-2015, 10:04 PM
I have long maintained that Kareem's PEAK came between the second half of his ROOKIE season, thru his entire '71 regular and post-season, and into his entire regular season in his THIRD year.
Here is some evidence...
In his very FIRST post-season series, he averaged...
36.2 ppg, 15.8 rpg, 3.4 apg, .583 FG%, and a .774 FT%...for a true TS% of .618.
LAZERUSS
04-18-2015, 10:09 PM
BTW, in Alcindor's THIRD playoff game of his long post-season career...
he played 33 minutes, and scored 33 points, with 17 rebounds and three assists, and on 13-16 FG/FGA, and 7-8 FT/FTA....in a 156-120 win.
RoundMoundOfReb
04-18-2015, 10:10 PM
BTW, in Alcindor's THIRD playoff game of his long post-season career...
he played 33 minutes, and scored 33 points, with 17 rebounds and three assists, and on 13-16 FG/FGA, and 7-8 FT/FTA....in a 156-120 win.
Inflated stats era.
warriorfan
04-18-2015, 10:14 PM
Can you run those Wilt and KAJ stats for per 100 possessions?
LAZERUSS
04-18-2015, 10:15 PM
Inflated stats era.
Reminds me of Wilt's 34.7 ppg on a .543 FG% in his 12 game playoff run in the '64 playoffs. That post-season the NBA averaged 105.8 ppg on a .420 FG%. And in Wilt's first series, he averaged 38.6 ppg on a .559 FG%, in a post-season series in which the two teams averaged 107.8 ppg. Oh, and his Finals, and against Russell, he averaged 29.2 ppg on a .517 FG%...in a post-season series in which the two teams averaged 103.2 ppg.
LAZERUSS
04-18-2015, 10:19 PM
Can you run those Wilt and KAJ stats for per 100 possessions?
Let me put it to you this way...
In KAJ's first playoff series, and playing 42.6 mpg, he averaged 36.2 ppg on a .583 FG%, in a post-season NBA that averaged 111.6 ppg on a .455 FG%.
plowking
04-18-2015, 10:23 PM
Let me put it to you this way...
In KAJ's first playoff series, and playing 42.6 mpg, he averaged 36.2 ppg on a .583 FG%, in a post-season NBA that averaged 111.6 ppg on a .455 FG%.
All you had to say was, "I can't".
DonDadda59
04-18-2015, 10:26 PM
Not really fair to compare him to those guys. But for a 22 year old in his first playoff game against arguably the best team in the league... it was very good. Rough start and padded a bit at the end though.
I'm looking forward to watching his progression as a basketball player. I hope the Pelicans front office gets him better quality, higher IQ teammates in the near future.
LAZERUSS
04-18-2015, 10:30 PM
All you had to say was, "I can't".
Per 100 is absolutely meaningless.
In Hakeem's '95 Finals, he averaged 32.8 ppg on 29 FGA per game, on a team that averaged 86 FGAs per game. He also only shot an eFG% of .488, in a post-season NBA that shot an eFG% of .504.
In Wilt's '64 Finals, he averaged 29.2 ppg on 24 FGAs per game, on a team that averaged 96 FGAs per game. He shot .517 from the field, in a post-season that shot .420 overall (and the Celts and Warriors combined to collectively shoot .399 in that Finals...so Wilt was LIGHT YEARS above that figure.)
Give that Wilt 29 FGAs, raise his FG% to '95 levels, and he would have averaged 40 ppg on a .620 FG%.
warriorfan
04-19-2015, 12:47 AM
Per 100 is absolutely meaningless.
In Hakeem's '95 Finals, he averaged 32.8 ppg on 29 FGA per game, on a team that averaged 86 FGAs per game. He also only shot an eFG% of .488, in a post-season NBA that shot an eFG% of .504.
In Wilt's '64 Finals, he averaged 29.2 ppg on 24 FGAs per game, on a team that averaged 96 FGAs per game. He shot .517 from the field, in a post-season that shot .420 overall (and the Celts and Warriors combined to collectively shoot .399 in that Finals...so Wilt was LIGHT YEARS above that figure.)
Give that Wilt 29 FGAs, raise his FG% to '95 levels, and he would have averaged 40 ppg on a .620 FG%.
:coleman:
CavaliersFTW
04-24-2015, 03:36 PM
Kareem had 36/20/4. Sat for 9 minutes, as well.
Wilt had 35/27/3.
Really great debuts for both.
Awesome, have you or anyone else got full statlines for each of their first playoff series games?
SourSamCassell
04-24-2015, 03:37 PM
Wilt is good and all
But he's no Air Jordan! Ha ha!
Psileas
04-24-2015, 04:15 PM
Awesome, have you or anyone else got full statlines for each of their first playoff series games?
Kareem's series went like this:
36/20/4 (in 39')
33/13/5
33/17/3 (in 33', on 12-16 FG)
33/7/3 (on 14-21 FG)
46/25/2 (playoff scoring career high - too bad he wasn't often drawing a lot of FT's, which kept his scoring highs somewhat low for his scoring level)
Wilt's series:
35/27/3 (probably most rebounds in playoff debut - Russell had 24)
28/18/2
53/22/2 (highest ppg avg for a rookie in a series + most points scored by a rookie in a playoff game + most FG's made in a playoff game in general, a record that has been tied, but remains unbroken)
These 2 have the 2 most prolific "debut series" of all time.
upside24
04-24-2015, 04:41 PM
BTW, in Alcindor's THIRD playoff game of his long post-season career...
he played 33 minutes, and scored 33 points, with 17 rebounds and three assists, and on 13-16 FG/FGA, and 7-8 FT/FTA....in a 156-120 win.
Dear God.:roll:
What year did coaches come up with the idea to not only score, but try to actually stop the other team from scoring?
JK. I know pace pace.
CavaliersFTW
04-24-2015, 04:46 PM
Kareem's series went like this:
36/20/4 (in 39')
33/13/5
33/17/3 (in 33', on 12-16 FG)
33/7/3 (on 14-21 FG)
46/25/2 (playoff scoring career high - too bad he wasn't often drawing a lot of FT's, which kept his scoring highs somewhat low for his scoring level)
Wilt's series:
35/27/3 (probably most rebounds in playoff debut - Russell had 24)
28/18/2
53/22/2 (highest ppg avg for a rookie in a series + most points scored by a rookie in a playoff game + most FG's made in a playoff game in general, a record that has been tied, but remains unbroken)
These 2 have the 2 most prolific "debut series" of all time.
Thanks, so in their first three playoff games the Davis/Chamberlain/Jabbar comparison/averages looks like this:
38.7ppg/22.3rpg/2.3apg - Chamberlain
34ppg/16.7rpg/4apg - KAJ
30ppg/11rpg/2.3apg - Davis
CavaliersFTW
04-24-2015, 04:51 PM
Dear God.:roll:
What year did coaches come up with the idea to not only score, but try to actually stop the other team from scoring?
JK. I know pace pace.
Teams drain the shot clock in this era. Watching the few games that exist I don't really see that in that era. I'm not convinced it's about defense, I'm more inclined to believe it's about how they ran their offenses back then. Lots of transition basketball, and half court sets that weren't designed just to drain 20 seconds.
upside24
04-24-2015, 04:57 PM
Teams drain the shot clock in this era. Watching the few games that exist I don't really see that in that era. I'm not convinced it's about defense, I'm more inclined to believe it's about how they ran their offenses back then. Lots of transition basketball, and half court sets that weren't designed just to drain 20 seconds.
I'm just messing around. I think you are right in your analysis of the difference in styles of play. Today's league spends a lot of time running sets and screens so the stats are going to be different.
CavaliersFTW
04-24-2015, 05:03 PM
I'm just messing around. I think you are right in your analysis of the difference in styles of play. Today's league spends a lot of time running sets and screens so the stats are going to be different.
Yeah I see the white text now :lol
upside24
04-24-2015, 05:06 PM
Yeah I see the white text now :lol
Your reply was a very good post. Most would have responded to that comment quite differently.:cheers:
G-Funk
04-24-2015, 05:16 PM
I have long maintained that Kareem's PEAK came between the second half of his ROOKIE season, thru his entire '71 regular and post-season, and into his entire regular season in his THIRD year.
Here is some evidence...
In his very FIRST post-season series, he averaged...
36.2 ppg, 15.8 rpg, 3.4 apg, .583 FG%, and a .774 FT%...for a true TS% of .618.
Kareem is the true GOAT
warriorfan
04-24-2015, 07:02 PM
Thanks, so in their first three playoff games the Davis/Chamberlain/Jabbar comparison/averages looks like this:
38.7ppg/22.3rpg/2.3apg - Chamberlain
34ppg/16.7rpg/4apg - KAJ
30ppg/11rpg/2.3apg - Davis
The speed at which the game is played impacts just about every other statistic. A quicker tempo means more possessions. More possessions means more shots. More shots means more points, more misses, more rebounds... you get the picture. Without an understanding of that tempo, many of the other statistics become meaningless.
:hammerhead:
Miller for 3
04-24-2015, 08:58 PM
Reminds me of Wilt's 34.7 ppg on a .543 FG% in his 12 game playoff run in the '64 playoffs. That post-season the NBA averaged 105.8 ppg on a .420 FG%. And in Wilt's first series, he averaged 38.6 ppg on a .559 FG%, in a post-season series in which the two teams averaged 107.8 ppg. Oh, and his Finals, and against Russell, he averaged 29.2 ppg on a .517 FG%...in a post-season series in which the two teams averaged 103.2 ppg.
against midget white guys and no foreigners allowed :oldlol: might as well post YMCA league stats :oldlol: more impressive than Wilt playoff stats :oldlol:
coin24
04-24-2015, 09:00 PM
Lonely laz replying to himself with essay after essay:lol
LAZERUSS
04-25-2015, 02:12 PM
Wilt was probably even more impressive in his second playoff series of his rookie season.
Keep in mind that he took essentially the same LAST PLACE roster from the year before, to a 49-26 record, and then single-handedly carried them past Syracuse in the First Round.
Facing the HOF-laden and defending champion Celtics, who dominated the league with a 59-16 record, Chamberlain led them to a 1-1 series tie in the first two games (games of 42-29 and then 29-28), HOWEVER, near the end of game two, and with Boston continuing to brutalize him, he got into a melee, and badly injured his hand. How bad was that injury? In game three, he could only go 35 minutes, and for the only time in his 49 career playoff games with Russell, he was badly outplayed (Russell outscored him, 26-12, and outrebounded him, 39-15.) BTW, Russell played 40 minutes in that 120-90 romp.
Wilt was nowhere near 100% in game four, either, albeit he easily outplayed Russell with a 24-34 game...in yet another loss.
Down 3-1, a fully recovered Chamberlain obliterated Russell and his swarming Celtics, ...unleashing a 50 point game (with 35 rebounds), in a 128-107 rout.
And in game six, with Boston swarming him, Wilt still hung a 26-24 game, in a 119-117 series-clinching loss.
Chamberlain outscored Russell, per game, 30.5 ppg to 20.7 ppg; outrebounded Russell per game, 27.5 rpg to 27.0 rpg; and outshot Russell from the field, .500 to .446 (in a post-season NBA that shot an eFG% of .402 BTW.)
BUT, remove the aberration of game three, and here were their numbers over the course of the other five games...
Russell: 19.6 ppg, 24.6 rpg, and on a .443 FG%.
Wilt: 34.2 ppg, 30.0 rpg, and on a .504 FG%.
swagga
04-25-2015, 03:08 PM
Wilt was probably even more impressive in his second playoff series of his rookie season.
Keep in mind that he took essentially the same LAST PLACE roster from the year before, to a 49-26 record, and then single-handedly carried them past Syracuse in the First Round.
Facing the HOF-laden and defending champion Celtics, who dominated the league with a 59-16 record, Chamberlain led them to a 1-1 series tie in the first two games (games of 42-29 and then 29-28), HOWEVER, near the end of game two, and with Boston continuing to brutalize him, he got into a melee, and badly injured his hand. How bad was that injury? In game three, he could only go 35 minutes, and for the only time in his 49 career playoff games with Russell, he was badly outplayed (Russell outscored him, 26-12, and outrebounded him, 39-15.) BTW, Russell played 40 minutes in that 120-90 romp.
Wilt was nowhere near 100% in game four, either, albeit he easily outplayed Russell with a 24-34 game...in yet another loss.
Down 3-1, a fully recovered Chamberlain obliterated Russell and his swarming Celtics, ...unleashing a 50 point game (with 35 rebounds), in a 128-107 rout.
And in game six, with Boston swarming him, Wilt still hung a 26-24 game, in a 119-117 series-clinching loss.
Chamberlain outscored Russell, per game, 30.5 ppg to 20.7 ppg; outrebounded Russell per game, 27.5 rpg to 27.0 rpg; and outshot Russell from the field, .500 to .446 (in a post-season NBA that shot an eFG% of .402 BTW.)
BUT, remove the aberration of game three, and here were their numbers over the course of the other five games...
Russell: 19.6 ppg, 24.6 rpg, and on a .443 FG%.
Wilt: 34.2 ppg, 30.0 rpg, and on a .504 FG%.
Wilt was probably even more impressive in his second playoff series of his rookie season.
Keep in mind that he took essentially the same LAST PLACE roster from the year before, to a 49-26 record, and then single-handedly carried them past Syracuse in the First Round.
Facing the HOF-laden and defending champion Celtics, who dominated the league with a 59-16 record, Chamberlain led them to a 1-1 series tie in the first two games (games of 42-29 and then 29-28), HOWEVER, near the end of game two, and with Boston continuing to brutalize him, he got into a melee, and badly injured his hand. How bad was that injury? In game three, he could only go 35 minutes, and for the only time in his 49 career playoff games with Russell, he was badly outplayed (Russell outscored him, 26-12, and outrebounded him, 39-15.) BTW, Russell played 40 minutes in that 120-90 romp.
Wilt was nowhere near 100% in game four, either, albeit he easily outplayed Russell with a 24-34 game...in yet another loss.
Down 3-1, a fully recovered Chamberlain obliterated Russell and his swarming Celtics, ...unleashing a 50 point game (with 35 rebounds), in a 128-107 rout.
And in game six, with Boston swarming him, Wilt still hung a 26-24 game, in a 119-117 series-clinching loss.
Chamberlain outscored Russell, per game, 30.5 ppg to 20.7 ppg; outrebounded Russell per game, 27.5 rpg to 27.0 rpg; and outshot Russell from the field, .500 to .446 (in a post-season NBA that shot an eFG% of .402 BTW.)
BUT, remove the aberration of game three, and here were their numbers over the course of the other five games...
[B]Russell: 19.6 ppg, 24.6 rpg, and on a .443 FG%.
Wilt: 34.2 ppg, 30.0 rpg, and on a .504 FG%.
swagga
04-25-2015, 03:09 PM
Wilt was probably even more impressive in his second playoff series of his rookie season.
Keep in mind that he took essentially the same LAST PLACE roster from the year before, to a 49-26 record, and then single-handedly carried them past Syracuse in the First Round.
Facing the HOF-laden and defending champion Celtics, who dominated the league with a 59-16 record, Chamberlain led them to a 1-1 series tie in the first two games (games of 42-29 and then 29-28), HOWEVER, near the end of game two, and with Boston continuing to brutalize him, he got into a melee, and badly injured his hand. How bad was that injury? In game three, he could only go 35 minutes, and for the only time in his 49 career playoff games with Russell, he was badly outplayed (Russell outscored him, 26-12, and outrebounded him, 39-15.) BTW, Russell played 40 minutes in that 120-90 romp.
Wilt was nowhere near 100% in game four, either, albeit he easily outplayed Russell with a 24-34 game...in yet another loss.
Down 3-1, a fully recovered Chamberlain obliterated Russell and his swarming Celtics, ...unleashing a 50 point game (with 35 rebounds), in a 128-107 rout.
And in game six, with Boston swarming him, Wilt still hung a 26-24 game, in a 119-117 series-clinching loss.
Chamberlain outscored Russell, per game, 30.5 ppg to 20.7 ppg; outrebounded Russell per game, 27.5 rpg to 27.0 rpg; and outshot Russell from the field, .500 to .446 (in a post-season NBA that shot an eFG% of .402 BTW.)
BUT, remove the aberration of game three, and here were their numbers over the course of the other five games...
Russell: 19.6 ppg, 24.6 rpg, and on a .443 FG%.
Wilt: 34.2 ppg, 30.0 rpg, and on a .504 FG%.
Wilt was probably even more impressive in his second playoff series of his rookie season.
Keep in mind that he took essentially the same LAST PLACE roster from the year before, to a 49-26 record, and then single-handedly carried them past Syracuse in the First Round.
Facing the HOF-laden and defending champion Celtics, who dominated the league with a 59-16 record, Chamberlain led them to a 1-1 series tie in the first two games (games of 42-29 and then 29-28), HOWEVER, near the end of game two, and with Boston continuing to brutalize him, he got into a melee, and badly injured his hand. How bad was that injury? In game three, he could only go 35 minutes, and for the only time in his 49 career playoff games with Russell, he was badly outplayed (Russell outscored him, 26-12, and outrebounded him, 39-15.) BTW, Russell played 40 minutes in that 120-90 romp.
Wilt was nowhere near 100% in game four, either, albeit he easily outplayed Russell with a 24-34 game...in yet another loss.
Down 3-1, a fully recovered Chamberlain obliterated Russell and his swarming Celtics, ...unleashing a 50 point game (with 35 rebounds), in a 128-107 rout.
And in game six, with Boston swarming him, Wilt still hung a 26-24 game, in a 119-117 series-clinching loss.
Chamberlain outscored Russell, per game, 30.5 ppg to 20.7 ppg; outrebounded Russell per game, 27.5 rpg to 27.0 rpg; and outshot Russell from the field, .500 to .446 (in a post-season NBA that shot an eFG% of .402 BTW.)
BUT, remove the aberration of game three, and here were their numbers over the course of the other five games...
Russell: 19.6 ppg, 24.6 rpg, and on a .443 FG%.
Wilt: 34.2 ppg, 30.0 rpg, and on a .504 FG%.
Wilt was probably even more impressive in his second playoff series of his rookie season.
Keep in mind that he took essentially the same LAST PLACE roster from the year before, to a 49-26 record, and then single-handedly carried them past Syracuse in the First Round.
Facing the HOF-laden and defending champion Celtics, who dominated the league with a 59-16 record, Chamberlain led them to a 1-1 series tie in the first two games (games of 42-29 and then 29-28), HOWEVER, near the end of game two, and with Boston continuing to brutalize him, he got into a melee, and badly injured his hand. How bad was that injury? In game three, he could only go 35 minutes, and for the only time in his 49 career playoff games with Russell, he was badly outplayed (Russell outscored him, 26-12, and outrebounded him, 39-15.) BTW, Russell played 40 minutes in that 120-90 romp.
Wilt was nowhere near 100% in game four, either, albeit he easily outplayed Russell with a 24-34 game...in yet another loss.
Down 3-1, a fully recovered Chamberlain obliterated Russell and his swarming Celtics, ...unleashing a 50 point game (with 35 rebounds), in a 128-107 rout.
And in game six, with Boston swarming him, Wilt still hung a 26-24 game, in a 119-117 series-clinching loss.
Chamberlain outscored Russell, per game, 30.5 ppg to 20.7 ppg; outrebounded Russell per game, 27.5 rpg to 27.0 rpg; and outshot Russell from the field, .500 to .446 (in a post-season NBA that shot an eFG% of .402 BTW.)
BUT, remove the aberration of game three, and here were their numbers over the course of the other five games...
Russell: 19.6 ppg, 24.6 rpg, and on a .443 FG%.
Wilt: 34.2 ppg, 30.0 rpg, and on a .504 FG%.
Wilt was probably even more impressive in his second playoff series of his rookie season.
Keep in mind that he took essentially the same LAST PLACE roster from the year before, to a 49-26 record, and then single-handedly carried them past Syracuse in the First Round.
Facing the HOF-laden and defending champion Celtics, who dominated the league with a 59-16 record, Chamberlain led them to a 1-1 series tie in the first two games (games of 42-29 and then 29-28), HOWEVER, near the end of game two, and with Boston continuing to brutalize him, he got into a melee, and badly injured his hand. How bad was that injury? In game three, he could only go 35 minutes, and for the only time in his 49 career playoff games with Russell, he was badly outplayed (Russell outscored him, 26-12, and outrebounded him, 39-15.) BTW, Russell played 40 minutes in that 120-90 romp.
Wilt was nowhere near 100% in game four, either, albeit he easily outplayed Russell with a 24-34 game...in yet another loss.
Down 3-1, a fully recovered Chamberlain obliterated Russell and his swarming Celtics, ...unleashing a 50 point game (with 35 rebounds), in a 128-107 rout.
And in game six, with Boston swarming him, Wilt still hung a 26-24 game, in a 119-117 series-clinching loss.
Chamberlain outscored Russell, per game, 30.5 ppg to 20.7 ppg; outrebounded Russell per game, 27.5 rpg to 27.0 rpg; and outshot Russell from the field, .500 to .446 (in a post-season NBA that shot an eFG% of .402 BTW.)
BUT, remove the aberration of game three, and here were their numbers over the course of the other five games...
[B]Russell: 19.6 ppg, 24.6 rpg, and on a .443 FG%.
Wilt: 34.2 ppg, 30.0 rpg, and on a .504 FG%.
CavaliersFTW
04-25-2015, 03:12 PM
against midget white guys and no foreigners allowed :oldlol: might as well post YMCA league stats :oldlol: more impressive than Wilt playoff stats :oldlol:
Just like the MJ era.
LAZERUSS
04-25-2015, 03:20 PM
Wilt was probably even more impressive in his second playoff series of his rookie season.
Keep in mind that he took essentially the same LAST PLACE roster from the year before, to a 49-26 record, and then single-handedly carried them past Syracuse in the First Round.
Facing the HOF-laden and defending champion Celtics, who dominated the league with a 59-16 record, Chamberlain led them to a 1-1 series tie in the first two games (games of 42-29 and then 29-28), HOWEVER, near the end of game two, and with Boston continuing to brutalize him, he got into a melee, and badly injured his hand. How bad was that injury? In game three, he could only go 35 minutes, and for the only time in his 49 career playoff games with Russell, he was badly outplayed (Russell outscored him, 26-12, and outrebounded him, 39-15.) BTW, Russell played 40 minutes in that 120-90 romp.
Wilt was nowhere near 100% in game four, either, albeit he easily outplayed Russell with a 24-34 game...in yet another loss.
Down 3-1, a fully recovered Chamberlain obliterated Russell and his swarming Celtics, ...unleashing a 50 point game (with 35 rebounds), in a 128-107 rout.
And in game six, with Boston swarming him, Wilt still hung a 26-24 game, in a 119-117 series-clinching loss.
Chamberlain outscored Russell, per game, 30.5 ppg to 20.7 ppg; outrebounded Russell per game, 27.5 rpg to 27.0 rpg; and outshot Russell from the field, .500 to .446 (in a post-season NBA that shot an eFG% of .402 BTW.)
BUT, remove the aberration of game three, and here were their numbers over the course of the other five games...
[B]Russell: 19.6 ppg, 24.6 rpg, and on a .443 FG%.
Wilt: 34.2 ppg, 30.0 rpg, and on a .504 FG%.
:applause: :applause: :applause:
Great post.
LAZERUSS
04-25-2015, 03:22 PM
against midget white guys and no foreigners allowed :oldlol: might as well post YMCA league stats :oldlol: more impressive than Wilt playoff stats :oldlol:
Yep...
http://a.espncdn.com/photo/2012/1001/nba_g_james_gb2_576.jpg
ISHGoat
04-25-2015, 04:31 PM
Thats really interesting, because from what I've seen, Wilt was probably even more impressive in his second playoff series of his rookie season.
Keep in mind that he took essentially the same LAST PLACE roster from the year before, to a 49-26 record, and then single-handedly carried them past Syracuse in the First Round.
Facing the HOF-laden and defending champion Celtics, who dominated the league with a 59-16 record, Chamberlain led them to a 1-1 series tie in the first two games (games of 42-29 and then 29-28), HOWEVER, near the end of game two, and with Boston continuing to brutalize him, he got into a melee, and badly injured his hand. How bad was that injury? In game three, he could only go 35 minutes, and for the only time in his 49 career playoff games with Russell, he was badly outplayed (Russell outscored him, 26-12, and outrebounded him, 39-15.) BTW, Russell played 40 minutes in that 120-90 romp.
Wilt was nowhere near 100% in game four, either, albeit he easily outplayed Russell with a 24-34 game...in yet another loss.
Down 3-1, a fully recovered Chamberlain obliterated Russell and his swarming Celtics, ...unleashing a 50 point game (with 35 rebounds), in a 128-107 rout.
And in game six, with Boston swarming him, Wilt still hung a 26-24 game, in a 119-117 series-clinching loss.
Chamberlain outscored Russell, per game, 30.5 ppg to 20.7 ppg; outrebounded Russell per game, 27.5 rpg to 27.0 rpg; and outshot Russell from the field, .500 to .446 (in a post-season NBA that shot an eFG% of .402 BTW.)
BUT, remove the aberration of game three, and here were their numbers over the course of the other five games...
[b]Russell: 19.6 ppg, 24.6 rpg, and on a .443 FG%.
Wilt: 34.2 ppg, 30.0 rpg, and on a .504 FG%.
MJistheGOAT
04-25-2015, 05:14 PM
What a bunch of douchebags.
Dont troll the old man Laz, he is trying to be happy, living the last years of his life posting essays in a internet board.
Be comprehensive.
MiseryCityTexas
04-25-2015, 05:16 PM
Just like the MJ era.
Hell yeah MJ played against inferior competition in the 90s, and most of Jordan's toughest competition at SG played in the Western conference, where they only played against each other twice a year.
warriorfan
04-25-2015, 05:16 PM
Stats per 100 possessions?
Pace?
http://www.citifmonline.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/poison2.jpg
LAZERUSS
04-25-2015, 07:03 PM
Stats per 100 possessions?
Pace?
http://www.citifmonline.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/poison2.jpg
League averages (including eFG%).
Domination of opposing players and teams (including scoring margins, rebounding margins, and eFG% margins.)
http://geoffblades.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/reality.jpg
CavaliersFTW
04-25-2015, 07:31 PM
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Comments like that will make you a shit poster that no one takes seriously.
Pace tends to affect one stat, rebounds. That's it. Possessions given to scorers, particularly superstars that help carry a teams scoring load are not dictated by pace.
NZStreetBaller
04-25-2015, 08:09 PM
This is actually and unfair comparison for davis wilt and kareem were much taller played center and they both had two eyebrows
warriorfan
04-25-2015, 08:51 PM
http://www.nba.com/analysis/rules_history.html
1964-65
D-FENS
04-25-2015, 09:12 PM
Reminds me of Wilt's 34.7 ppg on a .543 FG% in his 12 game playoff run in the '64 playoffs. That post-season the NBA averaged 105.8 ppg on a .420 FG%. And in Wilt's first series, he averaged 38.6 ppg on a .559 FG%, in a post-season series in which the two teams averaged 107.8 ppg. Oh, and his Finals, and against Russell, he averaged 29.2 ppg on a .517 FG%...in a post-season series in which the two teams averaged 103.2 ppg.
Ballhog era
LAZERUSS
04-25-2015, 10:09 PM
[QUOTE=warriorfan]http://www.nba.com/analysis/rules_history.html
1964-65
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