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imnew09
04-19-2015, 07:56 PM
Playoff Harden is back


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/AumQa0jCEAAMI82.jpg

Smoke117
04-19-2015, 07:57 PM
Welcome to yesterday.

kells333
04-19-2015, 09:52 PM
24 points on 11 shots is pretty damn impressive

Genaro
04-19-2015, 09:56 PM
I just wish the refs stopped bail him out.
Those 4 FGs he made, 2 were of Mavs' TOs where he didn't back on defense and when the Mavs turned over, he was all alone.

UK2K
04-19-2015, 09:58 PM
24 points on 11 shots is pretty damn impressive
He had 24 points and had as many assists as FG attempts.

That's dope.

UK2K
04-19-2015, 09:58 PM
I just wish the refs stopped bail him out.
Those 4 FGs he made, 2 were of Mavs' TOs where he didn't back on defense and when the Mavs turned over, he was all alone.
And 7 of those free throws were garbage time and a technical foul...

So what's you're point?

kells333
04-19-2015, 10:02 PM
Never understood why people don't realize getting to the ft line is an amazing skill to have

ronnymac
04-19-2015, 10:05 PM
Harden was light years better then last seasons playoff performances. He played under control and moved the ball and got everyone going. He got Howard going early and got Brewer in the 4th hot. When the mavs are throwing double on the ball, the move that makes the most sense is to move the ball instead of holding onto the rock and turning it over.

instead of talking out of you're ass, think.

navy
04-19-2015, 10:10 PM
Harden was light years better then last seasons playoiff performances. He played under control and moved the ball and got everyone going. He got Howard going early and got Brewer in the 4th hot. When the mavs are throwing double on the ball, the move that makes the most sense is to move the ball instead of holding onto the rock and turning it over.

instead of talks definetly not going to play as badlying out of you're ass, think.
Its been 1 game lol. That said I expect big things from Harden

ronnymac
04-19-2015, 10:13 PM
Its been 1 game lol. That said I expect big things from Harden
1 game or not the dude started a worthless thread bashing a guy who actually played quiet well. Played under control and never forced anything out of the ordinary. Got the Rockets offense to function without any problems.

Genaro
04-19-2015, 10:14 PM
And 7 of those free throws were garbage time and a technical foul...

So what's your point?
I actually wasn't the one that said it was too many FTs. I just felt that sometimes he just misses the ball or the shot and the refs just give him a touch foul.
Harden has a enormous talent to score points, he shouldn't play the way he does always trying to get a call.

bobopenguin
04-19-2015, 10:25 PM
And 7 of those free throws were garbage time and a technical foul...

So what's you're point?

so that wasn't really a MVP performance, correct? so why did rockets fans claimed that was a mvp performance from a mvp player?

UK2K
04-19-2015, 11:20 PM
so that wasn't really a MVP performance, correct? so why did rockets fans claimed that was a mvp performance from a mvp player?
Even without the garbage time free throws and the tech foul shot he had 17 and 11 and the best +/- on the team.

I think that's pretty good. MVP worthy.

greatest-ever
04-19-2015, 11:26 PM
He's not gonna get 17 fts in Dallas.

k0kakw0rld
04-20-2015, 12:28 AM
24 points on 11 shots is pretty damn impressive
4 shots made. Nice try 17 FTA :applause:

They will start to lose when the refs swallow their whistle.

el_locoteee
04-20-2015, 12:37 AM
4 shots made. Nice try 17 FTA :applause:

They will start to lose when the refs swallow their whistle.

No, Lin is no longer with the team so Houston have no way of choking games now.

Milbuck
04-20-2015, 12:39 AM
No, Lin is no longer with the team so Houston have no way of choking games now.
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-5opMCgS5P5Q/U1Sr0AZXUoI/AAAAAAAAFaU/HFvYz3nr8wY/s1600/4.gif

Smook A.
04-20-2015, 12:39 AM
ISH: Where a player is judged after one game

If Harden scored big without having to take a large amount of free throws, people here would be saying "MVP" everywhere. Say if that actually happened, and then he played poorly in the 2nd game. You'd be seeing things like "Playoff Harden is back" or "Harden shits the bed again". It's crazy around here.


He's not gonna get 17 fts in Dallas.
7 (or 8) of those free throws came from intentional/technical fouls :rolleyes:

Smook A.
04-20-2015, 12:42 AM
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-5opMCgS5P5Q/U1Sr0AZXUoI/AAAAAAAAFaU/HFvYz3nr8wY/s1600/4.gif
Talk about using the same comebacks over and over again :oldlol:

el_locoteee
04-20-2015, 12:43 AM
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-5opMCgS5P5Q/U1Sr0AZXUoI/AAAAAAAAFaU/HFvYz3nr8wY/s1600/4.gif

Since we are going back in time I got this.

http://i.giphy.com/12u88ojoXfWpGM.gif

I also like this one

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TtozD85NnTs

bballnoob1192
04-20-2015, 12:48 AM
24 points on 11 shots is pretty damn impressive
***** if he shot 8/11 and had 24 points that would be impressive. shooting 4/11 with 17fta is not impressive.

Smook A.
04-20-2015, 12:52 AM
***** if he shot 8/11 and had 24 points that would be impressive. shooting 4/11 with 17fta is not impressive.
Drawing fouls is a skill no matter how much you hate seeing guys shoot free throws. Harden finished the game with a TS% of 65% which is really impressive. Yeah he shot like crap, but he made it up with his great free throw shooting. Also, don't forget that about 1/2 of his attempts came from intentional/technical fouls.

warriorfan
04-20-2015, 01:02 AM
Drawing fouls is a skill no matter how much you hate seeing guys shoot free throws. Harden finished the game with a TS% of 65% which is really impressive. Yeah he shot like crap, but he made it up with his great free throw shooting. Also, don't forget that about 1/2 of his attempts came from intentional/technical fouls.



:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

el_locoteee
04-20-2015, 01:02 AM
***** if he shot 8/11 and had 24 points that would be impressive. shooting 4/11 with 17fta is not impressive.

Kobe mastered the punk fake and getting foul. The guy average 10+ Ft in 3 straight seasons as a jump shooter and was famous for opening his arm to draw fouls after shooting, he even broke Manu nose doing so.

el_locoteee
04-20-2015, 01:03 AM
:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

At least he makes his Ft instead of choking in the clutch.

Smook A.
04-20-2015, 01:03 AM
:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
I really wasn't joking, child.

ronnymac
04-20-2015, 01:12 AM
You know harden should shoot the ball when he is doubled team and take his teammates out of the game instead of moving the ball and getting Dwight and the likes of Brewer and Jones going like he did and the net result was 7 double figure scorers and Harrden had 11 assists.. People lack of basketball iq is mind boggoling.

Jacks3
04-20-2015, 01:16 AM
Kobe mastered the punk fake and getting foul. The guy average 10+ Ft in 3 straight seasons as a jump shooter and was famous for opening his arm to draw fouls after shooting, he even broke Manu nose doing so.

Prime Kobe's FT rate was nowhere near as high as Harden.

funnystuff
04-20-2015, 01:21 AM
Cringe worthy Harden apologists posts in here.

Anyone saying this is a good performance, pls learn 2 sports.

Without ref bias, the beard wouldn't have more than 18 ppg. Get real.

Smook A.
04-20-2015, 01:22 AM
Cringe worthy Harden apologists posts in here.

Anyone saying this is a good performance, pls learn 2 sports.

Without ref bias, the beard wouldn't have more than 18 ppg. Get real.
Are you really trying to say ALL his calls are bullshit? :oldlol:

imnew09
04-20-2015, 01:23 AM
Prime Kobe's FT rate was nowhere near as high as Harden.


Prime Shaq's FT rate wasn't even as high :roll: :roll:

funnystuff
04-20-2015, 01:24 AM
Are you really trying to say ALL his calls are bullshit? :oldlol:
No, hence why i said "without ref bias".

That means he still gets to the line, but its actually realistic. I see no more than 18 ppg if the refs put him on the same spectrum as other players in terms of "treatment".

Smook A.
04-20-2015, 01:32 AM
No, hence why i said "without ref bias".

That means he still gets to the line, but its actually realistic. I see no more than 18 ppg if the refs put him on the same spectrum as other players in terms of "treatment".
In the regular season he was already averaging 18.6 ppg without free throws

el_locoteee
04-20-2015, 01:37 AM
Prime Kobe's FT rate was nowhere near as high as Harden.

No wonder you are a Kobe fan not very bright.

Harden 2 season 10.2 Kobe 3 season 10+ FTA.

Kobe jump shooter, Harden leave in the paint.

bballnoob1192
04-20-2015, 01:41 AM
No wonder you are a Kobe fan not very bright.

Harden 2 season 10.2 Kobe 3 season 10+ FTA.

Kobe jump shooter, Harden leave in the paint.
kobe closing in on 20 years in the league playing at least 10-13 years as a first option. only 3 season with 10+ fta. Harden 2 season as the man 2 season of 10+ FT. hmmmmmmm.................

el_locoteee
04-20-2015, 01:48 AM
kobe closing in on 20 years in the league playing at least 10-13 years as a first option. only 3 season with 10+ fta. Harden 2 season as the man 2 season of 10+ FT. hmmmmmmm.................

http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4101/4920970629_7fb8758dbc_z.jpg

el_locoteee
04-20-2015, 01:50 AM
Cringe worthy Harden apologists posts in here.

Anyone saying this is a good performance, pls learn 2 sports.

Without ref bias, the beard wouldn't have more than 18 ppg. Get real.

Without FT

Lebron 19.9
Harden 18.6
Russel 20
Curry 19.9
A. Davis 18.9

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c4/CheckmateProper.jpg

aj1987
04-20-2015, 01:51 AM
No wonder you are a Kobe fan not very bright.

Harden 2 season 10.2 Kobe 3 season 10+ FTA.

Kobe jump shooter, Harden leave in the paint.
Kobe averaged 24 shots a game and 6 3's a game, during the 3 seasons 10+ FT's a game.

Harden averages 18 shots a game with 7 3's.

el_locoteee
04-20-2015, 01:54 AM
Kobe averaged 24 shots a game and 6 3's a game, during the 3 seasons 10+ FT's a game.

Harden averages 18 shots a game with 7 3's.

Morey ball Layups and 3's while Kobe the king of long 2 pointers

aj1987
04-20-2015, 01:56 AM
Morey ball Layups and 3's while Kobe the king of long 2 pointers
Cool. Now look at their percentages in the Playoffs when the refs swallow their whistles.

el_locoteee
04-20-2015, 02:01 AM
Cool. Now look at their percentages in the Playoffs when the refs swallow their whistles.

Kobe

3pt 2453 21%

Midrange 5603 50%

Paint 3177 28.2%

72% point from jumpers.

http://a.espncdn.com/photo/2013/1206/grant_r_KobeRadar_1152.jpg

el_locoteee
04-20-2015, 02:05 AM
Cool. Now look at their percentages in the Playoffs when the refs swallow their whistles.

Wade Finals 14FTA

Btw I like you avatar

bballnoob1192
04-20-2015, 02:08 AM
http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4101/4920970629_7fb8758dbc_z.jpg
good response even though i said kobe only played 10-13 seasons as the main man. :coleman:

aj1987
04-20-2015, 02:08 AM
No point in arguing with a Harden stan, who refuses to admit that he gets a TON of BS FT's. More than anyone in recent history. Can't wait till he folds like a bitch AGAIN.



Wade Finals 14FTA

Btw I like you avatar
23 PPG with 0 FT's. Ring + FMVP. Something which Harden will never have.

Harden minus the FT's in last night's game? 9 pts. :roll:

el_locoteee
04-20-2015, 02:12 AM
No point in arguing with a Harden stan, who refuses to admit that he gets a TON of BS FT's. More than anyone in recent history. Can't wait till he folds like a bitch AGAIN.

Stats and facts vs Opinions.

Btw nice avatar what was that guy famous for other that the wheelchair thing, I can't remeber

dunksby
04-20-2015, 02:20 AM
Harden isn't a good shooter, you can't expect him to play to his weaknesses, his drives and foul drawing skills are elite so he is going to exploit them to get the win.
Harden put up numbers, Rockets win, rich stats, everybody go home.

aj1987
04-20-2015, 02:22 AM
Stats and facts vs Opinions.

Btw nice avatar what was that guy famous for other that the wheelchair thing, I can't remeber
How about winning 3 rings and a FMVP? Or how about taking a massive dump on your franchise player in '12, while playing on one leg?

Do you know what Harden is famous for?



http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-5opMCgS5P5Q/U1Sr0AZXUoI/AAAAAAAAFaU/HFvYz3nr8wY/s1600/4.gif
http://i.imgur.com/w0r4c8V.gif
http://i.imgur.com/lgQOoxD.gif

bobopenguin
04-20-2015, 02:28 AM
No point in arguing with a Harden stan, who refuses to admit that he gets a TON of BS FT's. More than anyone in recent history. Can't wait till he folds like a bitch AGAIN.



23 PPG with 0 FT's. Ring + FMVP. Something which Harden will never have.

Harden minus the FT's in last night's game? 9 pts. :roll:

brah, let it go. American Texan Houston Rockets Harden fan will always deny the fact, plus they like to sleep through the ball game.

Dresta
04-20-2015, 04:31 AM
Oh, how satisfying it will be to again see Harden freeze in big playoff moments, shoot sub 40%, and get eliminated in the first or 2nd round. It will be fun to see his pathetic fans run away with their tails tucked between their legs after (once again) running their mouths way too often during the regular season, and Harden's play making them look like a bunch of clueless clowns.

:roll:

Good times.

warriorfan
04-20-2015, 04:32 AM
Oh, how satisfying it will be to again see Harden freeze in big playoff moments, shoot sub 40%, and get eliminated in the first or 2nd round. It will be fun to see his pathetic fans run away with their tails tucked between their legs after (once again) running their mouths way too often during the regular season, and Harden's play making them look like a bunch of clueless clowns.

:roll:

Good times.



:applause:

YouGotServed
04-20-2015, 06:06 AM
Harden haters in meltdown mode :lol

17 FTs. Let that sink in. Every time you think about babbling the same "Refs swallow their whistle come playoff time" BS....17 Free throws and a W. You're wrong. You've always been wrong. Remember that.

:roll:

R.I.P.
04-20-2015, 06:58 AM
Never understood why people don't realize getting to the ft line is an amazing skill to have

It

RightTwoCensor
04-20-2015, 07:10 AM
Harden haters in meltdown mode :lol

17 FTs. Let that sink in. Every time you think about babbling the same "Refs swallow their whistle come playoff time" BS....17 Free throws and a W. You're wrong. You've always been wrong. Remember that.

:roll:
Poison de Rat

UK2K
04-20-2015, 07:13 AM
Oh, how satisfying it will be to again see Harden freeze in big playoff moments, shoot sub 40%, and get eliminated in the first or 2nd round. It will be fun to see his pathetic fans run away with their tails tucked between their legs after (once again) running their mouths way too often during the regular season, and Harden's play making them look like a bunch of clueless clowns.

:roll:

Good times.
I like how you added that in there ever so subtle like, because it used to be a first round elimination joke, but now you see he's about to wreck the Mavs so you gotta change it up.

CANT WAIT UNTIL HES ELIMINATED IN THE FIRST or second ROUND AGAIN.

Good one.

RRR3
04-20-2015, 07:15 AM
Harden isn't a good shooter, you can't expect him to play to his weaknesses, his drives and foul drawing skills are elite so he is going to exploit them to get the win.
Harden put up numbers, Rockets win, rich stats, everybody go home.
Harden isn't a good shooter? :biggums:

UK2K
04-20-2015, 07:17 AM
[QUOTE=R.I.P.]It

Dresta
04-20-2015, 07:36 AM
I like how you added that in there ever so subtle like, because it used to be a first round elimination joke, but now you see he's about to wreck the Mavs so you gotta change it up.

CANT WAIT UNTIL HES ELIMINATED IN THE FIRST or second ROUND AGAIN.

Good one.
:rolleyes:

He's playing the Mavs with home court - they've sucked for a while, and their defense is shit. If he plays alright and they beat the Mavs, only to get steamrolled in the next round with him playing like shit, it won't improve my consideration of him a bit.

I wouldn't get so hyped about it if i were you either. He's still only won one game - plenty of time for him to freeze and/or choke again.

UK2K
04-20-2015, 08:13 AM
:rolleyes:

He's playing the Mavs with home court - they've sucked for a while, and their defense is shit. If he plays alright and they beat the Mavs, only to get steamrolled in the next round with him playing like shit, it won't improve my consideration of him a bit.

I wouldn't get so hyped about it if i were you either. He's still only won one game - plenty of time for him to freeze and/or choke again.
Next move... Downplay the achievements of the team, and downplay the other team to make it appear as if winning a 7 game series against the Dallas Mavericks is no achievement.


Mavs in 6. Parsons with the game 6 dagger. Harden literally shits himself on court.


Mavs in 6.


Mavs in 6, not worried.


Dallas in 6, baby.


Chandler locks up the paint

Dirk goes off

Harden doesn't get his fts

Mavs win 4-2


Rockets lose tonight.

Mavs 110 Rockets 103


Try and pretend like the Mavs dont have a chance in this series and Houston is some unstoppable juggernaut. For what its worth, I gave the Rockets a 60-40 shot of winning the series, about right on pace with the 66% chance the computers gave them. So the Rockets were slightly favored, but to try and act like the Rockets were a foregone conclusion to roll over them is you simply moving the goalposts.

It went from Houston won't make the playoffs before the season started, to Houston won't get HCA, to Houston won't win the first round, to if Houston bows out in the 2nd round they were a failure. Keep moving them goal posts, next time, it'll be Houston won't make the WCF.

Dresta
04-20-2015, 08:19 AM
Why are you posting the opinions of people who aren't me as if that has anything whatsoever to do with my own opinion?

I wasn't pretending any of that. Dallas just aren't a very good team, particularly defensively.

UK2K
04-20-2015, 08:43 AM
Why are you posting the opinions of people who aren't me as if that has anything whatsoever to do with my own opinion?

I wasn't pretending any of that. Dallas just aren't a very good team, particularly defensively.
You are the only non-Rockets fan I know of to predict them to crush the Mavericks because the Mavericks are a shit team.

BlakFrankWhite
04-20-2015, 08:45 AM
i hope this bearded pile of garbage gets exposed for the bearded pile of trash he is.

R.I.P.
04-20-2015, 08:47 AM
So why doesn't every player do it then?

Uh cause you need the refs to actually give you the BS calls.

You think if Langston Galloway blatantly runs into Dirk he gets that call? :lol

UK2K
04-20-2015, 09:46 AM
Uh cause you need the refs to actually give you the BS calls.

You think if Langston Galloway blatantly runs into Dirk he gets that call? :lol

So Harden is the only player in the NBA who has the refs? Does Lebron have the refs? Why doesn't he shoot 10 FTA per game? Westbrook? Oh he does. What about Durant, Curry, Melo, Rose, Kobe? Do they have the refs too? Do they shoot 10 FTA per game?

Then it must only be Harden and Westbrook. Only they have the refs.

But since you ask about Galloway, I will point out that Tony Wroten and Alexyey Shved are #7 and #8 in FTA per 36, so yeah, I do think if Galloway was as aggressive he would get that call too. Nevermind the fact that Harden is #3 in the league in drives this season, one of only four players with more than 800.

el_locoteee
04-20-2015, 02:32 PM
No point in arguing with a Harden stan, who refuses to admit that he gets a TON of BS FT's. More than anyone in recent history. Can't wait till he folds like a bitch AGAIN.



23 PPG with 0 FT's. Ring + FMVP. Something which Harden will never have.

Harden minus the FT's in last night's game? 9 pts. :roll:

2005-2006 playoff D Wade
19.6 PPG without FT. (31% of his shoor from FT Line)

NBA FINALS 2005-2006
DWADE 25.3PPG 12.5FT
Game 5 8.8 Points without FT
WITHOUT FT 12.8 PPG 50% from the FT line
WITHOUT FT 12.8 PPG 50% from the FT line
WITHOUT FT 12.8 PPG 50% from the FT line
WITHOUT FT 12.8 PPG 50% from the FT line
WITHOUT FT 12.8 PPG 50% from the FT line
WITHOUT FT 12.8 PPG 50% from the FT line
WITHOUT FT 12.8 PPG 50% from the FT line
WITHOUT FT 12.8 PPG 50% from the FT line
WITHOUT FT 12.8 PPG 50% from the FT line
WITHOUT FT 12.8 PPG 50% from the FT line
WITHOUT FT 12.8 PPG 50% from the FT line

dh144498
04-20-2015, 02:34 PM
last time i checked. 13 points on 50% >>>>> 8-10 points on 4/11 FGA.

Haren attempted more shots than his points scored.

el_locoteee
04-20-2015, 02:52 PM
last time i checked. 13 points on 50% >>>>> 8-10 points on 4/11 FGA.

Haren attempted more shots than his points scored.

You got it wrong, is 50% of his shoots came from the FT line. AKA half of his points. Not his shooting porcentage :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm ther is not a % sign on my post

Game 5 8.8 Points without FT if you want to single out a game.

aj1987
04-20-2015, 11:05 PM
2005-2006 playoff D Wade
19.6 PPG without FT. (31% of his shoor from FT Line)

NBA FINALS 2005-2006
DWADE 25.3PPG 12.5FT
Game 5 8.8 Points without FT
WITHOUT FT 12.8 PPG 50% from the FT line
WITHOUT FT 12.8 PPG 50% from the FT line
WITHOUT FT 12.8 PPG 50% from the FT line
WITHOUT FT 12.8 PPG 50% from the FT line
WITHOUT FT 12.8 PPG 50% from the FT line
WITHOUT FT 12.8 PPG 50% from the FT line
WITHOUT FT 12.8 PPG 50% from the FT line
WITHOUT FT 12.8 PPG 50% from the FT line
WITHOUT FT 12.8 PPG 50% from the FT line
WITHOUT FT 12.8 PPG 50% from the FT line
WITHOUT FT 12.8 PPG 50% from the FT line
What the **** are you babbling about? Wade scored ~23 points even if you removed ALL his FT's from the Finals. Even if he doesn't get calls, Wade has a very good post-game, is one of the GOAT slashers, better midrange game, etc. etc.. Literally the only thing Harden does better than Wade is shoot 3's (he's not elite at that either, but is very good though).

Fudge
04-21-2015, 01:42 AM
Curry:

9/21, 3/9 3PT, 5 TO's, scoreless in the 4th, Klay scores 14 in the 4th, GSW wins by 10.

MVP DOEE :lol

imnew09
04-22-2015, 12:52 AM
Playoff Harden appears AGAIN!

5/17FG 1/4 from 3s 4 TO + some airballs :bowdown: :bowdown:

bballnoob1192
04-22-2015, 12:56 AM
Curry:

9/21, 3/9 3PT, 5 TO's, scoreless in the 4th, Klay scores 14 in the 4th, GSW wins by 10.

MVP DOEE :lol
will harden shoot over 40% in the playoffs?