"Batman" (Ben Affleck) tried to Hide his Family of Slave Owners using Censorship

[Jordan-esque]

http://cdn-media.fishwrapper.com/2013/12/09/1209-fish-ben-2.jpg

http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2015/04/18/ben-affleck-demanded-pbs-program-hide-his-slave-owning-ancestor/

[b]Ben Affleck pushed to censor his family's ancestors of slave owners from PBS show

[HitandRun Reggie]

He's an idiot for trying to censor this info. Most white Americans with British ancestry and almost every African American has family ties to white slave owners.

[Hittin_Shots]

slave owning was the norm then.. people that could own them generally did..

[iamgine]

Ben Affleck is so humble he doesn't want people to know his ancestors were rich.

[DonDadda59]

Didn't want to spend his Batman money on reparations.

[bballnoob1192]

who the **** cares. abraham lincoln owned slaves. that's like being ashame of your ancestors for owning an iPhone 100 years from now

[Derka]

No need to censor it. Its a part of our country's very dirty history. You just seem lame trying to hide this stuff. Also, f*ck Henry Louis Gates for deciding this was an "issue" that needed addressing.

[rufuspaul]

slave owning was the norm then.. people that could own them generally did..


The people that owned slaves were for the most part wealthy plantation owners. Even though hundreds of thousands of Southerners fought to preserve slavery very few of them actually owned any slaves.

[ItsMillerTime]

Why is this news again?

[DonDadda59]

The people that owned slaves were for the most part wealthy plantation owners. Even though hundreds of thousands of Southerners fought to preserve slavery very few of them actually owned any slaves.

Yup. The ignorant poor fighting and dying for the agenda of the minority wealthy ruling class. Some things never change.

The average White confederate back then should've been angry that land owners were using free labor instead of providing paying jobs to the populace.

[rufuspaul]

Yup. The ignorant poor fighting and dying for the agenda of the minority wealthy ruling class. Some things never change.

The average White confederate back then should've been angry that land owners were using free labor instead of providing paying jobs to the populace.

So true. I think Affleck was just trying to protect black people. i mean if you suddenly found out that your ancestors were owned by his it might be too much to handle.

[SexSymbol]

smells like bullshit, I bet this gates fella called up batfleck and asked "***** u want tv to do your family tree" and batfleck was like "no" so gayfella said "fok u mate u basterd, i gon say u slave owner biatch"

Multikill. Condom

[nathanjizzle]

one should be proud of their ownership in business.

[Jailblazers7]

Shouldn't it be relatively easy for someone to use ancestry.com or something to trace his ancestry and prove this as true or false?

[bluechox2]

it happened , get the **** over it

[NumberSix]

Yup. The ignorant poor fighting and dying for the agenda of the minority wealthy ruling class. Some things never change.

The average White confederate back then should've been angry that land owners were using free labor instead of providing paying jobs to the populace.
Most were. They were also not happy about the fact that they were required to assist in capturing runaway slaves, free of charge.

Those days were no different than now. It wasn't some magical time where all of the population was in support of war or the reasons behind it. Just like now, the people in power decide what wars are going to happen and everybody else kinda just has to fall in line.

[Trollsmasher]

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[Akrazotile]

Theres no reason he ought to feel compelled to "hide" it as if its his fault or anything, but I can understand why he'd rather they just simply not bring it up if it can be avoided. Unnecessary PR hassle to let the media have a chance to make a mountain out a mole hill.

[ROCSteady]

See this is another reason why Nolan's Batverse will always be more noble.

The Wayne Estate that Michael Caine worked in was aid to runaway slaves as part of the Underground Railroad.


Affleck's bitch ass affluent, powerful Batman family is tryin to reel in them niccaz to bring them back to plantations and whoop that sweaty black ass

[dude77]

lol pr .. he doesn't have to acknowledge anything nor is this anything newsworthy .. this is just more white guilt nonsense .. no one's responsible for what anyone did 2463463563 yrs ago

[He Strong]

Read about this. Why hide it? Who cares what your ancestors did. It does not reflect poorly on you. Hiding it is the only thing that makes you look bad.

[ALBballer]

Yup. The ignorant poor fighting and dying for the agenda of the minority wealthy ruling class. Some things never change.

The average White confederate back then should've been angry that land owners were using free labor instead of providing paying jobs to the populace.

Well said.

[Akrazotile]

Stay strong, Ben. Don't let em bully you into carrying the baggage of your ancestors.

Peoples history is what it is. Yes, okay, some peoples ancestors did own tea plantations in Jamaica in the 17th and 18th centuries. We cant change that. But it doesnt mean their descendents shouldnt be allowed to portray batman, or post incisive basketball observation and analysis at the #1 message board on the web for NBA banter, or any number of other purely hypothetical pursuits.

The stigma has got to stop. Let's just move on people.

[Patrick Chewing]

**** Ben Affleck.

[El Kabong]

Read about this. Why hide it? Who cares what your ancestors did. It does not reflect poorly on you. Hiding it is the only thing that makes you look bad.
Probably worried someone will sue him for it.

[dunksby]

If it's an issue of censorship I understand why that guy brought it up with the management, Affleck comes off as suspect trying to hide it though, we all know pulling this kind of favors in Hollywood will leak out eventually.

[Dresta]

He's an idiot for trying to censor this info. Most white Americans with British ancestry and almost every African American has family ties to white slave owners.
This basically. There won't be a single human being untainted by the genetics of slave-owners :eek: - it was a worldwide norm for a long time. None of us would be here without it, so trying to deny any link to it is only an attempt to negate what one is.

Perhaps his slave-owning heritage explains why he's so paternalistic and patronising of others...how many Mexican maids does he hire :lol ?

[Dresta]

Does anyone have a favorite slave owner?
Yeah, Calhoun :pimp:

He was the guy that was like 'all societies need labourers, all labourers are necessarily slaves, so what's the big deal?':


He was sure that "there never has yet existed a wealthy and civilized society in which one portion of the community did not, in point of fact, live on the labor of the other." It would not be too difficult "to trace out the various devices by which the wealth of all civilized communities has been so unequally divided, and to show by what means so small a share has been allotted to those by whose labor it was produced, and so large a share to the non-producing classes." Concerning one such device he had no doubts; the tariff was a certain means of making "the poor poorer and the rich richer."

As early as 1828 he wrote of the tariff system in his Exposition and Protest:

After we [the planters] are exhausted, the contest will be between the capitalist and operatives [workers]; for into these two classes it must, ultimately, divide society. the issue of the struggle here must be the same as it has been in Europe. Under the operation of the system, wages must sink more rapidly than the prices of the necessaries of life, till the operatives will be reduced to the lowest point, --when the portion of the products of their labor left to them, will be barely sufficient to preserve existence.

In his Disquisition on Government Calhoun predicted that as the community develops in wealth and population, "the difference between the rich and poor will become more strongly marked," and the proportion of "ignorant and dependent" people will increase. Then "the tendency to conflict between them will become stronger; and, as the poor and dependent become more numerous in proportion there will be, in governments of the numerical majority, no want of leaders among the wealthy and ambitious, to excite and direct them in their efforts to obtain the control."

Such arguments were not merely for public consumption. In 1831 a friend recorded a conversation in which Calhoun "spoke of the tendency of Capital to destroy and absorb the property of society and produce a collision between itself and operatives." "The capitalist owns the instruments of labor," Calhoun once told Albert Brisbane, "and he seeks to draw out of labor all the profits, leaving the laborer to shift for himself in age and disease."

In 1837 he wrote to Hammond that he had had "no conception that the lower class had made such great progress to equality and independence" as Hammond had reported. "Modern society seems to me to be rushing to some new and untried condition." "What I dread," he confessed to his daughter Anna in 1846, "is that progress in political science falls far short of progress in that which relates to matter, and which may lead to convulsions and revolutions, that may retard, or even arrest the former." During the peak of the Jacksonian bank war he wrote to his son James that the views of many people in the North were inclining toward Southern conceptions. They feared not only Jackson's power, but "the needy and corrupt in their own section. They begin to feel what I have long foreseen, that they have more to fear from their own people than we from our slaves."

Richard Hofstadter

Slave-owning precursor to Marx and leftist thinking is an interesting combination that's for sure :lol

Harriet Martineau called him "the cast iron man who looks as if he had never
been born, and could never be extinguished," and Varina Howell Davis who described him as "a mental and moral abstraction."

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[LJJ]

What a humble guy.

[tmacattack33]

So what. I would do the same if I had a public image to take care of.

[BRabbiT]

Didn't want to spend his Batman money on reparations.


:lol