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ISHGoat
04-20-2015, 08:21 PM
Would he be the GOAT soldier/warrior?

I would say the gap in nutrition and sport science between now and wilts era is similar to wilts era and like the 1500s.

Put someone like lebron, wilt, shaq in the 1500s, would they be the goat soldier with millions of kills and impregnated women, or would they be too easy of a target to take down?

JimmyMcAdocious
04-20-2015, 08:28 PM
Wilt and his 23 inch pythons? Too big a target.

Trollsmasher
04-20-2015, 08:31 PM
It depends on where he would be playing

In the shit-tier Africa he would be a king, but Europe and Asia were too stacked with talent at that time and Wilt would also be reduced to a mere infantryman there even though the best served in the cavalry

ISHGoat
04-20-2015, 08:43 PM
Wilt and his 23 inch pythons? Too big a target.

How abut someone like giannis? Would 10% of the population have his genes if he lived 500 years ago, like it does for ghengis khan?

Kobe_6/8
04-20-2015, 08:44 PM
It depends on where he would be playing

In the shit-tier Africa he would be a king, but Europe and Asia were too stacked with talent at that time and Wilt would also be reduced to a mere infantryman there even though the best served in the cavalry

This. Wilt wouldn't be GOAT if he had no motivation to succeed.

TheMarkMadsen
04-20-2015, 08:46 PM
Would come up short against Russell's army

warriorfan
04-20-2015, 08:47 PM
http://km.i1.fdbimg.pl/mre3hk_kj35zm.jpg

inclinerator
04-20-2015, 08:49 PM
a sword thru the heart would still kill him, arrows too lol

La Frescobaldi
04-20-2015, 08:49 PM
Didn't you guys know he was an archer?

They found his bow and an arrow and it's easily on display today:

http://s3-media1.fl.yelpassets.com/bphoto/yDbQLHyucMRTK9sx46wXiA/348s.jpg

He also shot an arrow from Europe in 1214 A.D. They couldn't even pull it out with a 10 ton crane, so they just left it in the ground right where it fell in Michigan:

http://www.tworvgypsies.us/!USA-trip-6-2013/photos-16-Oscoda_Tawas/g-city_stuff/2013-06-16_oddities_27.jpg

robert de niro
04-20-2015, 08:52 PM
http://www.etv.co.za/sites/etv.co.za/files/styles/large/public/Black%20Knight.jpg

Eric Cartman
04-20-2015, 08:55 PM
Couldn't be able to beat Russell and the stacked Persian empire.

JohnMax
04-20-2015, 09:02 PM
Wilt would be in Africa


In European history, the Middle Ages, or Medieval period, lasted from the 5th to the 15th century. It began with the collapse of the Western Roman Empire and merged into the Renaissance and the Age of Discovery.

Spurs5Rings2014
04-20-2015, 09:06 PM
Would come up short against Russell's army

:lol

Asukal
04-20-2015, 09:06 PM
He would've plundered 1 million women and die of STDs. :oldlol:

MJistheGOAT
04-20-2015, 09:10 PM
Didn't you guys know he was an archer?

They found his bow and an arrow and it's easily on display today:

http://s3-media1.fl.yelpassets.com/bphoto/yDbQLHyucMRTK9sx46wXiA/348s.jpg

He also shot an arrow from Europe in 1214 A.D. They couldn't even pull it out with a 10 ton crane, so they just left it in the ground right where it fell in Michigan:

http://www.tworvgypsies.us/!USA-trip-6-2013/photos-16-Oscoda_Tawas/g-city_stuff/2013-06-16_oddities_27.jpg

:roll: :roll:

THIS is nice trolling.

LAZERUSS
04-20-2015, 09:23 PM
Wilt and his 23 inch pythons? Too big a target.

Yep...wimpy Wilt, right?

Let's ask none other than Arnold, himself, about Wilt's strength...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzIu7o5NH1k


Or in Robert Cherry's book on Wilt, page 375, a well-known weight-lifter that worked out with Chamberlain at the Mid-Valley Racquetball Club in the 90's...


"Fluke Fluker, 6'5" and about 250 pounds, claims that he can bench press 500 pounds. Even he was amazed at Wilt's strength: "The man could curl a 100 pound dumb-bell as easily as I can lift a telephone receiver.""


Or how about a Wilt in the mid-60's, and well before he peaked in terms of strength...

Sports Illustrated March 2, 1964:


'The St. Louis Hawks' 6-foot-9, 240-pound Zelmo Beaty, for example, found out recently that he can no longer take Chamberlain's great strength for granted. Unable to slow Wilt down with conventional maltreatment, Beaty tried to yank his shorts off. Chamberlain, who can press 400 pounds without breathing hard, makes it a point to control his temper, primarily because he is genuinely afraid he might kill somebody. Beaty's unethical yank, however, was too much. Wilt flicked an arm, and Beaty flew across the floor like a man shot out of a cannon. Referee Mendy Rudolph rushed over to him and said: "For God's sake, stay down, man. Don't even twitch a muscle." Beaty didn't twitch, and he is still active in the NBA.'


Or a live interview in 1997:

http://wiltfan.tripod.com/chat.htm


This is the transcript from Wilt's online interview from MSNBC

Subject:
From:
Host:
Date: NBA legend Wilt Chamberlain 4-18-97
Chris Donohue (MSNBC)
MSNBC
Mon Nov 24 11:58

Host Chris_MSNBC2 says:
M3 says:
Question for Wilt...watched you bench press about 465 lbs like it was a match stick at the Stanford gym when you were working out there for some reason...how much can you still push up?

Host Wilt_Chamberlain says:
Well, probably I can push up a little more than that right now, because I was bench pressing some great weights. I was a shot-putter and lifting weights was a great joy to me. I liked to show off, I don't do that anymore, but I could probably bench press more than 465 pounds now.




How about these...

http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Wilt_Chamberlain


Former Celtics guard K.C. Jones remembered his casual run-in with Wilt. "He stopped me dead in my tracks with his arm, hugged me and lifted me off the floor with my feet dangling," Jones said. "It scared the hell out of me. When I went to the free-throw line, my legs were still shaking. Wilt was the strongest guy and best athlete ever to play the game." Goliath's Wonderful Life, Hoop Magazine; May 1999; Chris Ekstrand

Several years after Wilt stopped playing, he toyed with the idea of a comeback. On the day he visited the Knicks' offices in Madison Square Garden, he talked to Red Holzman, then strode out to the elevator. When it opened, two deliverymen were struggling with a dolly piled high with boxes of office supplies, mostly letterheads and envelopes. The load was so heavy, the elevator had stopped maybe four inches below the floor level and now the deliverymen were huffing and puffing, but they couldn't raise the dolly high enough to get it on the floor level. After maybe two minutes of the deliverymen's huffing and puffing, Wilt, his biceps bulging in a tank top, peered down at them and intoned, "Gentlemen, maybe I can help." They stepped back, he stepped into the elevator, grabbed each end of the rope slung under the dolly and without much exertion, quickly lifted the dolly onto the floor level. Looking up in awe, the deliverymen said, "Thank you." Wilt said, "You're welcome." Wilt stepped into the elevator and rode down to the street level as another witness followed the two deliverymen toward the Knick offices and asked, "How much does all this weigh?" They quickly surveyed the stack of big boxes of office supplies. "Close to 600 pounds," one said. The Good Natured Giant Wasn't Belligerent, Sports of the Times; Oct 13, 1999; Dave Anderson

"One time, when I was with Boston and he was with the Lakers, Happy Hairston and I were about to get in a scrape," said Charlotte Hornets coach Paul Silas, who was a rugged, no-nonsense enforcer. "All of a sudden, I felt an enormous vise around me. I was 6-7, 235, and Wilt had picked me up and turned me around. He said, 'We're not going to have that stuff.' I said, 'Yes sir.'" Goliath's Wonderful Life, Hoop Magazine; May 1999; Chris Ekstrand

"On the trip to Russia with the Harlem Globetrotters, we were in Lenin Stadium, and they assigned a dressing room to the team. The players were getting dressed for one of their games. They were in rather close quarters. Remember, these were young kids-Wilt was 23. The others were his age. They were like kittens. You bump me, i'll bump you back. And before you know it, two of the guys set on Wilt. They started playfully pushing and shoving him. And finally one of his teammates hit Wilt a little too hard. He took these two guys, twisted each of their shirts, and lifted both of them off the ground. Each of these guys weighed over 200 pounds. It looked like he had two little crackers in his hands. I thought he was going to hit their heads together. It was an amazing demonstration of strength". Dr. Stan Lorber, team doctor on the Globetrotters' Russian trip




Or the 6-11 265 lb HOF center Bob Lanier...

http://www.nba.com/history/wilt_appreciation.html


Bob Lanier, himself a Hall of Fame center of considerable proportion, recalls "when Wilt Chamberlain lifted me up and moved me like a coffee cup so he could get position."


How was Wilt perceived in 1969?...

https://news.google.com/newspapers?id=gPoNAAAAIBAJ&sjid=w3sDAAAAIBAJ&pg=7049,3815406&dq=&hl=en


'Wilt Chamberlain is probably the first giant in history to be able to break 50 seconds in the 440, win a Big Eight high-jump title and be able to set a pick. In fact, he may not be a true giant. Medicine has taken the mystery out of gigantism. Most giants of the past were physical weaklings. Some were 90 percent legs. Wilt Chamberlain, by common consent, is the world's strongest man.'



How about another eye-witness account:

http://volleyball.org/people/wilt_chamberlain.html


From Pat Powers, 1984 Olympic Volleyball Gold Medalist, 10/14/99 -
A lot has been written about Wilt the last several days here in So Cal. He is receiving more attention now than he has for the last fifteen years--he would have preferred it this way, Wilt was never one for the spotlight off the court.

Here are two stories that I just attached names to yesterday:

One day big Wilty (a notorious card cheater) was playing a game off VB down at Muscle Beach in Santa Monica. To say Wilty was competitve in all sports would be a minor understatement. An argument broke out over the correct score and Wilty was not giving ground to anybody on the court. One of the players, Amon Lucky, made the mistake of stepping under the net to further the point, when Wilty picked him up and threw him over the net!!! Now understand the "Amer" weighs something on the order of 225lbs, so the rumor is Wilty "taped"him on the throw over. needless to say Wilty won the argument, and if memory serves me correct, the game.

Wilty was one of the strongest guys I have ever seen. I once was sitting on the steel fence at Rosecrans taking in the Rosecrans open with Wilt and several cohorts back in the late 70's. A player from Muscle Beach was standing beneath us and told us he was going to walk around so he could come join us up on the rail. Wilty told him there was "no no reason to walk," and reached down and picked him up by one arm and hoisted him over the bar. Mike weighed ~240lbs!!!

I have been around some athletes in my day. But nobody and I mean nobody was stronger than Wilty. He was a man's man!!!



Yep...the "wimpy Wilt"...

ISHGoat
04-20-2015, 09:37 PM
Yep...wimpy Wilt, right?

Let's ask none other than Arnold, himself, about Wilt's strength...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzIu7o5NH1k


Or in Robert Cherry's book on Wilt, page 375, a well-known weight-lifter that worked out with Chamberlain at the Mid-Valley Racquetball Club in the 90's...




Or how about a Wilt in the mid-60's, and well before he peaked in terms of strength...

Sports Illustrated March 2, 1964:




Or a live interview in 1997:

http://wiltfan.tripod.com/chat.htm




How about these...

http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Wilt_Chamberlain




Or the 6-11 265 lb HOF center Bob Lanier...

http://www.nba.com/history/wilt_appreciation.html




How was Wilt perceived in 1969?...

https://news.google.com/newspapers?id=gPoNAAAAIBAJ&sjid=w3sDAAAAIBAJ&pg=7049,3815406&dq=&hl=en




How about another eye-witness account:

http://volleyball.org/people/wilt_chamberlain.html




Yep...the "wimpy Wilt"...

aww cmon 8000 words for a one line reply?

LAZERUSS
04-20-2015, 09:38 PM
aww cmon 8000 words for a one line reply?

http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n155/nombreesizzyt/wiltat50.jpg

buddha
04-20-2015, 09:40 PM
i'm sure Shaq can easily curl 100lb dumbbells.

oarabbus
04-20-2015, 09:40 PM
Dude is a giant, too easy to hit. He would have taken an arrow to the knee and spent the rest of his days guarding a hamlet

MJistheGOAT
04-20-2015, 09:41 PM
LAZERUSS, you have to lend your utherus and give Wilt a child.

What a hyperbolic post to a weak & one-line attempt of trolling.

LAZERUSS
04-20-2015, 09:43 PM
i'm sure Shaq can easily curl 100lb dumbbells.

:roll: :roll: :roll:

Shaq supposedly could bench press 450 lbs, too...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cW2-x-0lAQo

A 375+ lb Shaq couldn't BUDGE 405...

:roll: :roll: :roll:

TonyMontana
04-20-2015, 10:20 PM
No he wouldn't.

Being THAT big is a disadvantage in any kind of combat scenario that involves weapons. It just makes him an easy target to hit. Skill(with weapons), intellect, and metal toughness is what made the best warriors.

warriorfan
04-20-2015, 10:28 PM
:roll: :roll: :roll:

Shaq supposedly could bench press 450 lbs, too...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cW2-x-0lAQo

A 375+ lb Shaq couldn't BUDGE 405...

:roll: :roll: :roll:


:oldlol:

secund2nun
04-20-2015, 10:56 PM
Word is that Wilt once mounted a mountain lion and impregnated it.

stephanieg
04-21-2015, 02:39 AM
David vs. Goliath didn't work so well for the big guy.

He Strong
04-21-2015, 02:44 AM
He'd be taken down by an archer pretty quickly. Would be good in arena battles though.

StephHamann
04-21-2015, 02:51 AM
A black guy in medieval europe? They would burn him alive asap

dunksby
04-21-2015, 03:30 AM
The Black Knight?




albeit another Wilt myth

aj1987
04-21-2015, 03:42 AM
:roll: :roll: :roll:

Shaq supposedly could bench press 450 lbs, too...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cW2-x-0lAQo

A 375+ lb Shaq couldn't BUDGE 405...

:roll: :roll: :roll:
Do you also believe that the Avengers is a documentary and that Tony Stark is the world's greatest inventor?

StephHamann
04-21-2015, 03:47 AM
Do you also believe that the Avengers is a documentary and that Tony Stark is the world's greatest inventor?

http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view5/4058110/shit-just-got-real-o.gif

Marchesk
04-21-2015, 04:39 AM
Do you also believe that the Avengers is a documentary and that Tony Stark is the world's greatest inventor?

He invented a new element:

http://www.animallogic.com/getattachment/Fuel/Work/Iron-Man-2/TWD5740.jpg

SpanishACB
04-21-2015, 04:59 AM
fighting is a skill, specially with weapons, phisicality is not that relevant as in hand to hand

Wilt would a target opponents focus on, they would easily put him in the ground and finish him off

Plus, Wilt was insecure and not very bright, not good skills to have on a battlefield

buddha
04-21-2015, 05:39 AM
:roll: :roll: :roll:

Shaq supposedly could bench press 450 lbs, too...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cW2-x-0lAQo

A 375+ lb Shaq couldn't BUDGE 405...

:roll: :roll: :roll:


seeing that shaq doesn't even train anymore and was still able to get 315, i'm sure a month in the gym and he'd be able to bench 405.

but biceps are a completely different muscle than your chest. i'm quite sure Shaq can curl a 100lb db.

SpanishACB
04-21-2015, 07:52 AM
legs are the main body part for 99% of fighting if not all

big men have shit legs, and shit backs

meaning they'll be falling on their backs and never getting up

sd3035
04-21-2015, 08:22 AM
legs are the main body part for 99% of fighting if not all

big men have shit legs, and shit backs

meaning they'll be falling on their backs and never getting up


http://ufcvoice.com/sites/default/files/styles/large/public/field/image/skinny-legs-jon-jones.jpg