Is a Curry-less Warriors team a contender in the West?

[Fudge]

Title.

[Achilleas]

no

[Fudge]

no
Shaun Livingston/Leandro Barbosa
Klay Thompson/Justin Holiday
Harrison Barnes/Andre Iguodala
Draymond Green/David Lee
Andrew Bogut/Marreese Speights

Yes.

[PistonsFan#21]

Title.

is the pope a muslim?

[ClipperRevival]

Title contender? No. But they would win 48-52 games.

[Achilleas]

Shaun Livingston/Leandro Barbosa
Klay Thompson/Justin Holiday
Harrison Barnes/Andre Iguodala
Draymond Green/David Lee
Andrew Bogut/Marreese Speights

Yes.

they are all good role players,no one can create a shot and feed the others

[1987_Lakers]

Nope.

Warriors defense would still be elite, but the offense would drop significantly.

[COnDEMnED]

Playoff purgatory, but not contender.

[LoneyROY7]

Nah. Way too many bird-fed players.

[IGOTGAME]

Replace Steph Curry with Mike Conley and you get the same result.

[ClipperRevival]

they are all good role players,no one can create a shot and feed the others

And that's what Curry brings that no one else can. Iggy in stretches can create his own shot but without Curry, they really have no shot creator. Curry can not only get his offensively but set up teammates.

[Cone]

Not even close. They'd be an average team at best. 40-42 ish record.

Klay Thompson is a great role player but his production would drastically decrease as the #1 option.

[Fudge]

they are all good role players,no one can create a shot and feed the others
Klay can.

But okay, I can fix that easily.

Andre Iguodala
Klay Thompson
Harrison Barnes
Draymond Green
Andrew Bogut

That lineup might even be better against this Pels team. I don't know why Kerr doesn't think about this. Have Curry off the bench for spurts to match Cole's instant offense.

[bdreason]

They would be fighting for the 8th seed with teams like the Pelicans and Suns.

[Achilleas]

Klay can.

But okay, I can fix that easily.

Andre Iguodala
Klay Thompson
Harrison Barnes
Draymond Green
Andrew Bogut

That lineup might even be better against this Pels team. I don't know why Kerr doesn't think about this. Have Curry off the bench for spurts to match Cole's instant offense.

maybe they can be in 7-8 ,but in the playoffs this team will lose easily

with conley they will be better at defence but their offfence will fall,i think with him they will at least be 3-4,but memphis with curry will become the best team,67 wins easily

[ClipperRevival]

Klay can.

But okay, I can fix that easily.

Andre Iguodala
Klay Thompson
Harrison Barnes
Draymond Green
Andrew Bogut

That lineup might even be better against this Pels team. I don't know why Kerr doesn't think about this. Have Curry off the bench for spurts to match Cole's instant offense.

Klay gets most of his points on the move without the ball. He isn't a dominant, iso player who can consistently break down a set defender and create his own shot like Curry. And that is the hardest thing to do in basketball and why only a handful can do it.

[iamgine]

No, neither would they be without Klay Thompson/Andrew Bogut and to an extent Draymond Green.

[Fudge]

The little boy is an absolute FRAUD.

James Harden = the real MVP.

[SyRyanYang]

What have Curry ever done to you:oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:

[UK2K]

Replace Steph Curry with Mike Conley and you get the same result.
Replace Curry with George Hill and you get the same result.

[navy]

Replace Curry with George Hill and you get the same result.
:roll:

Delusional.

[Fudge]

The answer is clearly yes.

Watch the games.

[Imtheman]

They would be kind of like those Denver Nugget teams that were good; but had no true supetstar to take them to the next level

[UK2K]

:roll:

Delusional.
A lineup of

Hill/Holiday
Thompson
Iggy/Barnes
Lee/Green
Bogut/Ezeli

Isn't a title contender? I think they are.

[navy]

A lineup of

Hill/Holiday
Thompson
Iggy/Barnes
Lee/Green
Bogut/Ezeli

Isn't a title contender? I think they are.
You're delusional.

[Imtheman]

A lineup of

Hill/Holiday
Thompson
Iggy/Barnes
Lee/Green
Bogut/Ezeli

Isn't a title contender? I think they are.
Playoffs? Sure
Title Contender? Hell no

[Clyde]

Not even close. They'd be an average team at best. 40-42 ish record.

Klay Thompson is a great role player but his production would drastically decrease as the #1 option.

No way curry accounts for 20+ wins himself, he barely plays 33 minutes a game.

[Milbuck]

Replace Curry with George Hill and you get the same result.
:oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:

[UK2K]

Playoffs? Sure
Title Contender? Hell no
I dont think that team is any worse than the Rockets/Mavericks/Trailblazers now.

[warriorfan]

Replace Curry with George Hill and you get the same result.



:roll: I love uK2k, fakkit seriously knows the least amount of basketball on the entire forum :roll:

[navy]

I dont think that team is any worse than the Rockets/Mavericks/Trailblazers now.
Damn. Dat salty about Harden's mvp? :biggums:

[Fudge]

I dont think that team is any worse than the Rockets/Mavericks/Trailblazers now.
Yep.

Though, i'd still have Green starting over Lee.

I like Iggy over Barnes too. Dude would be the primary ball handler, and would make Hill flourish in a spot up role.

This team would be doing just as good as they are right now.

[Heavincent]

This team would be doing just as good as they are right now.

Kill yourself.

[dabigbaws]

Yep.

Though, i'd still have Green starting over Lee.

I like Iggy over Barnes too. Dude would be the primary ball handler, and would make Hill flourish in a spot up role.

This team would be doing just as good as they are right now.

seeing as they were clearly better with curry on the bench, i'd venture to say they would've possibly won 70 games this regular season

[SaltyMeatballs]

What have Curry ever done to you:oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:
He's a cocky overhyped piece of shit who will win the MVP thanks to his AMAZING teammates. I've heard people say this baby faced mofo is the best player in the game.

[dabigbaws]

He's a cocky overhyped piece of shit who will win the MVP thanks to his AMAZING teammates. I've heard people say this baby faced mofo is the best player in the game.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAH

no way someone said that with a straight face?

[SaltyMeatballs]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAH

no way someone said that with a straight face?
I don't know what their faces looked like, but I saw these dumbass comments all over YouTube when he made CP3 fall. I've also seen them on ISH and some B/R articles.

Curry is just way too overhyped. NBA on YouTube put his stepback 3 over Chris Paul as the #1 play of the season :roll:

Neg me all you want, Curry lovers. I'm just speaking my mind.

[oarabbus]

Get off the Warriors' collective d1cks OP

[UK2K]

Damn. Dat salty about Harden's mvp? :biggums:
Harden wont win MVP. Curry will, as he should.

But Im not going to pretend that Warriors dont have solid contributors at every position. The team is a beast.

I honestly think if Hill were swapped for Curry, they'd still end up with HCA. Thats not a knock on Curry, but a compliment to the FO of the Warriors.

[He Strong]

**** no.

[ThickassGlasses]

The only Warrior player that can create his own shot, outside of Curry, is Iggy and it's not like he's that good at anymore.

Take Curry away they might steal the 8th playoff spot.

Add George Hill or Mike Conley they might win 1 playoff series, but they won't get to the WCF even playing their best ball.

[HurricaneKid]

seeing as they were clearly better with curry on the bench, i'd venture to say they would've possibly won 70 games this regular season

2014/15 Golden State without Steph Curry -1.2 pts/100poss
2014-15 Golden State with Steph Curry +17.8/100poss

Without Steph - 26 points
With Steph +902 points

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14/15 playoffs without Curry -25.8/100
14/15 playoffs with Curry +15.8/100

Without Steph -5
With Steph +22


Seriously some of you need to get a clue.

[pegasus]

2014/15 Golden State without Steph Curry -1.2 pts/100poss
2014-15 Golden State with Steph Curry +17.8/100poss

Without Steph - 26 points
With Steph +902 points

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14/15 playoffs without Curry -25.8/100
14/15 playoffs with Curry +15.8/100

Without Steph -5
With Steph +22

Seriously some of you need to get a clue.

This. And you don't even need to look at the numbers to see his impact. They'd be lucky to make the playoffs without him.

[bballnoob1192]

sad thing is OP is not kidding. he actually believes the shit coming out of his mouth. :facepalm

[KNOW1EDGE]

Playoff purgatory, but not contender.

This.

They'd make the playoffs every year but never make the WCF.

[24-Inch_Chrome]

I think they'd make the playoffs but it would be a first round exit, probably a quick one too.

[UK2K]

2014/15 Golden State without Steph Curry -1.2 pts/100poss
2014-15 Golden State with Steph Curry +17.8/100poss

Without Steph - 26 points
With Steph +902 points

****************

14/15 playoffs without Curry -25.8/100
14/15 playoffs with Curry +15.8/100

Without Steph -5
With Steph +22


Seriously some of you need to get a clue.

They're not as good without the potential MVP on the floor?

You don't say.

We are hypothetically replacing him, not removing him.

And again, +/- is garbo because the Warriors are better than everyone else. Obviously their individual players are gonna have a large +/-. 4 of the top 10 are Warriors players, does that make them 4 of the top 10 players? JJ Reddick is #5. In all five Warriors and 4 Clippers make up the top 11... Do you think that's a reliable statistic?

[Bigsmoke]

Klay isn't ready to be a first option.