View Full Version : Doc Rivers on Jordan's FT shooting...
PhutureDynasty
04-23-2015, 01:55 AM
"If they go in they go in, if they don't they don't. We don't care either way..."
lol wut??? You SHOULD care if they don't drop.
What's funny is that the Hack a Jordan let them back in the game. So he's right, they dont care either way.
qrich
04-23-2015, 01:57 AM
Post the Clippers record since 2013 when DJ attempts 13+ bebe
J Shuttlesworth
04-23-2015, 01:58 AM
I see his point though. You don't want to overreact if he misses a couple in a row and take him out. Play the percentages, and he's near 50%. Plus your starters are getting a breather when he's at at he line. I think they made the right move keeping him in. Eventually, they started dropping, and the Clippers cut the lead down.
It is a shame that if he made a couple more free throws, the Clips would have won.
Collie
04-23-2015, 01:59 AM
I think it's more in the sense that they don't take it personally when DJ shoots badly, since they're already used to it (and can't do a damn thing about it anyway).
Eric Cartman
04-23-2015, 01:59 AM
When the Spurs did Hack-a-Asik against the Pelicans, after like 3 fouls they took him out and proceeded to violate the Spurs. Don't know why you leave Jordan in that situation. It's not the points per possession, it kills the flow for the other players.
04mzwach
04-23-2015, 01:59 AM
"If they go in they go in, if they don't they don't. We don't care either way..."
lol wut??? You SHOULD care if they don't drop.
It wouldn't help Jordan to have added pressure on him from his coach. Doc knows his players I'd guess.
PhutureDynasty
04-23-2015, 02:00 AM
I'm not debating the numbers when Jordan gets FT attempts, I'm saying at it's base a coach should care if his player's free throws aren't dropping.
qrich
04-23-2015, 02:00 AM
When the Spurs did Hack-a-Asik against the Pelicans, after like 3 fouls they took him out and proceeded to violate the Spurs. Don't know why you leave Jordan in that situation. It's not the points per possession, it kills the flow for the other players.
In this case, it allowed the Clippers starters to catch a breathe, since our bench is among the worst in the playoffs.
When the Spurs did Hack-a-Asik against the Pelicans, after like 3 fouls they took him out and proceeded to violate the Spurs. Don't know why you leave Jordan in that situation. It's not the points per possession, it kills the flow for the other players.
They have Davis to protect the rim.
Clips have Spencer Hawes.
PhutureDynasty
04-23-2015, 02:01 AM
It wouldn't help Jordan to have added pressure on him from his coach. Doc knows his players I'd guess.
That honestly is probably true. I actually like Jordan and think he has the potential to be the best center in the league if he improves his FT shooting.
His defense, efficiency, and rebounding are top notch.
He Strong
04-23-2015, 02:03 AM
"If they go in they go in, if they don't they don't. We don't care either way..."
lol wut??? You SHOULD care if they don't drop.
That is a bit out of context. His point was that he cares more about decision making of his players rather than whether their shots go in or out. It is the same mentality as letting 3 point shooters continue shooting even when they are cold. Coaches worry more about bad decisions than good decisions that happen to not work out.
RoundMoundOfReb
04-23-2015, 02:04 AM
Post the Clippers record since 2013 when DJ attempts 13+ bebe
misleading since teams tend to only employ the strategy when they're losing.
qrich
04-23-2015, 02:05 AM
They have Davis to protect the rim.
Clips have Spencer Hawes.
Doc needs to play Friday Udoh
aj1987
04-23-2015, 02:06 AM
I see his point though. You don't want to overreact if he misses a couple in a row and take him out. Play the percentages, and he's near 50%. Plus your starters are getting a breather when he's at at he line. I think they made the right move keeping him in. Eventually, they started dropping, and the Clippers cut the lead down.
It is a shame that if he made a couple more free throws, the Clips would have won.
If he was making them, they wouldn't have fouled him.
PhutureDynasty
04-23-2015, 02:07 AM
That is a bit out of context. His point was that he cares more about decision making of his players rather than whether their shots go in or out. It is the same mentality as letting 3 point shooters continue shooting even when they are cold. Coaches worry more about bad decisions than good decisions that happen to not work out.
I agree to an extent that coaches can't do much about in-game shots. However, players should be making free throws and that's something you can be frustrated about. Rivers doesn't want to rile up Jordan or mess with his psyche though so I get it. Just thought it was an asinine comment given the question.
J Shuttlesworth
04-23-2015, 02:09 AM
If he was making them, they wouldn't have fouled him.
I don't think that's true, unless he goes like 9/12 or something.
He was 6/17 tonight. If he had gone even 7/17, Clippers probably would win that game.
Pop sticks to his guns. If Deandre is making more than usual, I think Pop would still do the strategy assuming he's due to go cold. He didn't change his strategy if LeBron's jumper was on, I doubt he'd overreact to a few extra made FTs by Deandre
aj1987
04-23-2015, 02:17 AM
I don't think that's true, unless he goes like 9/12 or something.
He was 6/17 tonight. If he had gone even 7/17, Clippers probably would win that game.
Pop sticks to his guns. If Deandre is making more than usual, I think Pop would still do the strategy assuming he's due to go cold. He didn't change his strategy if LeBron's jumper was on, I doubt he'd overreact to a few extra made FTs by Deandre
I don't think he would've used that strategy if Jordan made even 50% of his FT's in the 4th. That would've given the Clippers a lead. He would've stopped whenever they were getting close.
bluechox2
04-23-2015, 02:22 AM
its more like hes doesnt care cause they intentionally fouled him so its free points anyway and helps put the team in foul trouble
PhutureDynasty
04-23-2015, 02:25 AM
its more like hes doesnt care cause they intentionally fouled him so its free points anyway and helps put the team in foul trouble
Valid point. I was just taken back by the comment at first.
tomtucker
04-23-2015, 03:13 AM
if they don
Wiltside
04-23-2015, 04:30 AM
I agree to an extent that coaches can't do much about in-game shots. However, players should be making free throws and that's something you can be frustrated about. Rivers doesn't want to rile up Jordan or mess with his psyche though so I get it. Just thought it was an asinine comment given the question.
This is key. What is Doc supposed to do, yell at him for missing free throws? DeAndre Jordan probably practices these all the time as it is.
aj1987
04-23-2015, 04:32 AM
This is key. What is Doc supposed to do, yell at him for missing free throws? DeAndre Jordan probably practices these all the time as it is.
http://i.imgur.com/ZxxLxAW.jpg
D-FENS
04-23-2015, 05:43 AM
Post the Clippers record since 2013 when DJ attempts 13+ bebe
Impressive:
http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/pgl_finder.cgi?request=1&player_id=jordade01&match=game&year_min=&year_max=&age_min=0&age_max=99&team_id=&opp_id=&is_playoffs=N&round_id=&game_num_type=&game_num_min=&game_num_max=&game_month=&game_location=&game_result=&is_starter=&is_active=&is_hof=&pos_is_G=&pos_is_GF=&pos_is_F=&pos_is_FG=&pos_is_FC=&pos_is_C=&pos_is_CF=&c1stat=fta&c1comp=gt&c1val=13&c2stat=&c2comp=gt&c2val=&c3stat=&c3comp=gt&c3val=&c4stat=&c4comp=gt&c4val=&order_by=pts
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