Whats your guys opinion on 'halal' meat?

[BigNBAfan]

http://www.peta.org/blog/cruelty-behind-muslim-ritual-slaughter/

video shows the process

[9erempiree]

Do they taste better?

If so, I am all for it.

[sweggeh]

I kinda feel like killing animals is just wrong period, but then again meat just taste so good no homo. Not really sure what to think.

[ace23]

Religion of peace

[Derka]

That comments section is pure entertainment.

[oarabbus]

I will eat it. I will also eat non halal makes no difference to me :confusedshrug:

[KevinNYC]

not looking at the video, but what makes halal meat more offensive to Peta than Kosher meat or meat meat?

[Trollsmasher]

If you buy halal meat, you are likely supporting terrorism, as the producers are paying the tax to whatever muslim organization that oversees the license giving in the any given countries.

Since most of these high-level organizations (especially in Europe) are directly connected and supported by wahhabist money, you are directly funding islamic fundamentalism by this.

I am personally don't buy in shops that offer halal meet and I advise the people I know to do the same, along with public shaming. I am also pushing the politicans to ban it completly.

[imdaman99]

Love me some halal cart Chicken and Rice platter :pimp:

I suggest everyone try it if you're ever in NYC. Worth the trip to 53rd and 6th.

[KevinNYC]

Love me some halal cart Chicken and Rice platter :pimp:

I suggest everyone try it if you're ever in NYC. Worth the trip to 53rd and 6th.
That's some damn good eatin'

[Draz]

Love me some halal cart Chicken and Rice platter :pimp:

I suggest everyone try it if you're ever in NYC. Worth the trip to 53rd and 6th.
Had that one and their terrible compared to where I live in Queens up my block has the best carts. The whole entire zipcode has amazing carts. The entire food is different. The one in the city are absolutely 1/10 bad.
Even next to my colleges are terrible.

Had some yesterday and I had the smelliest shit today

[knickballer]

Love me some halal cart Chicken and Rice platter :pimp:

I suggest everyone try it if you're ever in NYC. Worth the trip to 53rd and 6th.

Is that the one where the line stretches around the block and corner? It's pretty damn good and you get great value for your money.

[NumberSix]

I'm not in favour of halal or kosher. For those who are, that's fine. I just personally don't want it.

[D-FENS]

Love me some halal cart Chicken and Rice platter :pimp:

I suggest everyone try it if you're ever in NYC. Worth the trip to 53rd and 6th.

It is good, but not as good as Calexico

[outbreak]

If you buy halal meat, you are likely supporting terrorism, as the producers are paying the tax to whatever muslim organization that oversees the license giving in the any given countries.

Since most of these high-level organizations (especially in Europe) are directly connected and supported by wahhabist money, you are directly funding islamic fundamentalism by this.

I am personally don't buy in shops that offer halal meet and I advise the people I know to do the same, along with public shaming. I am also pushing the politicans to ban it completly.

If you listen to trollsmasher you are supporting stupidity.

[NumberSix]

If you listen to trollsmasher you are supporting stupidity.
Did you even attempt to check if there is any truth to what he wrote or did you just blindly assume that it must be all nonsense?

[gigantes]

not looking at the video, but what makes halal meat more offensive to Peta than Kosher meat or meat meat?
kosher shecita slaughter seems to be pretty much the exact opposite process-- killing the animals swiftly and as painlessly as possible.

[KevinNYC]

It is good, but not as good as CalexicoDifferent style food, but I dig me some Calexico. Love their folded quesadillas.

[NumberSix]

What do you guys think about the idiots who constantly troll halal restaurants? I get that it was probably funny the first few times someone asked for bacon at a halal KFC, but at some point, is it bordering on harassment?

[Giaodollo]

I mean I don't care. I won't buy it, mostly because it is hard to find here but I mean meat is meat, slaughter is slaughter.

Is like a murderer pointing a finger at murderers that don't drug their victims before murdering.

[gigantes]

I mean I don't care. I won't buy it, mostly because it is hard to find here but I mean meat is meat, slaughter is slaughter.

Is like a murderer pointing a finger at murderers that don't drug their victims before murdering.
no it's not, as i just pointed out above.

not to mention, a big part of the organic meat movement is to greatly increase the quality of animals lives and greatly decrease the amount of their suffering at the end.

[Giaodollo]

no it's not, as i just pointed out above.

not to mention, a big part of the organic meat movement is to greatly increase the quality of animals lives and greatly decrease the amount of their suffering at the end.

Meh, won't affect me a bit but I could take care of someone I kidnapped only to murder it when I feel like it, but only by drugging the person before killing it. Does that make me a better person?

[Draz]

We're all fcking animals at the end of the day. Eat what makes you happy, eat what satisfies your cravings.

[Patrick Chewing]

Eat what makes you happy, eat what satisfies your cravings.


https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/53/79/f6/5379f62a41f6b2a73d5510cad9a527c4.jpg

[gigantes]

Meh, won't affect me a bit but I could take care of someone I kidnapped only to murder it when I feel like it, but only by drugging the person before killing it. Does that make me a better person?
only you know the answer to that, but overall it certainly makes it easier for some people to live with themselves when it comes to how they treat their livestock.

[Giaodollo]

only you know the answer to that, but overall it certainly makes it easier for some people to live with themselves when it comes to how they treat their livestock.

Well if people feel good to know that their food where taken care of before it was slaughtered then all the power to them, I can somehow understand people rationalizing that way. For me it is like, who cares? Do I really care if my cow was taken care of? I am eating it and I am going to think about if this cow was taken care of?

Doesn't make sense to me.

[NumberSix]

Meh, won't affect me a bit but I could take care of someone I kidnapped only to murder it when I feel like it, but only by drugging the person before killing it. Does that make me a better person?
It's not about how bad the person doing the killing is. It's the amount of unnecessary suffering the animal is made to endure.

Do you honestly see no difference between a quick painless death and a slow agonizing death?

[L.Kizzle]

A couple of weeks ago I wanted something to east on my lunch break but didn't feel like leaving. There is like a Mosque amd some Arab business in a little strip right across the street. I walk over to one of their restaurants and when I walked in, it's like everything stopped. Everyone there seemed to know each other. They must not get other nationalities on the regular. I don't think I got Halal but I did get chicken tenders. They tasted funny but I still ate them.

[Giaodollo]

It's not about how bad the person doing the killing is. It's the amount of unnecessary suffering the animal is made to endure.

Do you honestly see no difference between a quick painless death and a slow agonizing death?

I obviously see the difference but, why should I care? Like I said, I am sitting here eating my cow, and you expect me to think if this cow was loved and cared before being killed?

[gigantes]

I obviously see the difference but, why should I care? Like I said, I am sitting here eating my cow, and you expect me to think if this cow was loved and cared before being killed?
i don't think anyone expects you to care.

it's just that some people do care. a lot.

problem...?

[Giaodollo]

i don't think anyone expects you to care.

it's just that some people do care. a lot.

problem...?

No problem, I am just expressing my thoughts about halal, that is the question in OP... What's your problem?

[gigantes]

No problem, I am just expressing my thoughts about halal, that is the question in OP... What's your problem?
i don't know... are you here to psychoanalyse me or something?


and i responded to you when you stated something which was blatantly untrue. if not for that, i doubt we would be talking.

[Giaodollo]

i don't know... are you here to psychoanalyse me or something?


and i responded to you when you stated something which was blatantly untrue. if not for that, i doubt we would be talking.

I am not analyzing anything.

[gigantes]

I am not analyzing anything.
that's certainly the impression i got, yeah.

[iamgine]

Is it more expensive or less delicious? If so I have a negative opinion about it.

[Giaodollo]

that's certainly the impression i got, yeah.

Well okej, good talk.

[Draz]

What I don't get about veggiaterians is seafood. Why don't yall eat seafood? I mean who cares about the feelings of shrimp at least. Plus seafood is the best.

Lobster tails, scallops,

[Giaodollo]

What I don't get about veggiaterians is seafood. Why don't yall eat seafood? I mean who cares about the feelings of shrimp at least. Plus seafood is the best.

Lobster tails, scallops,

Most vegeterians eat seafood. It is Vegans that doesn't eat anything, not even milk from cows or cheese made out of milk.

[Draz]

Most vegeterians eat seafood. It is Vegans that doesn't eat anything, not even milk from cows or cheese made out of milk.
How are these people alive? :(

[Giaodollo]

How are these people alive? :(

Vegetables, nature candy (almond, and various nuts), tofu, bulgur, bread, soy milk, and carbs (rice, potato etc.). Basically everything that sucks except for nature candy and bread

[Patrick Chewing]

How are these people alive? :(


One of my employees is a vegan and she is rail thin. She is always in the bathroom though which is the funny thing. Food or water must go right through her.

She looks like Rooney Mara, who coincidentally is a Vegan lol.


http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-quR0lqgeRcI/T7JKWHT3PnI/AAAAAAAAACA/fFB3Aaky4Hw/s320/Rooney-Mara-2012-00.jpg

[Draz]

I understand both perspectives. But it's not enough to change where I eat and how I eat. Of course it matters to plenty of people to that extent. But, man. Food is life. Especially since I'm so dam skinny. I can eat whatever the fck I want, how I want and not feel bad about it.

[LJJ]

It becomes weird when every slaughterhouse has to use modern methods that are proven to cause a minimal amount of suffering to the animal, but then when religion is involved it's suddenly okay to do it the old fashioned way. A lot of halal butchers do already stun (essentially kill) the animal before they perform their ritual slaughter, I don't see why it can't be enforced.

If you are concerned about animal welfare though, the state the animals are in when they are alive should cause you much more concern than the possibly 5 seconds of pain they go through at the very end. These factory farms are crazy.

[bigkingsfan]

Praise halal

[bluechox2]

halal meat tastes better

[BigNBAfan]

It's only fair that i leave my opinion as well.

Halal meat is something that's offered 90% of the places here in Antwerpen. Traditional, non stunned methods of dhabihah i am completely against. While I can understand killing an animal is a necessity, i don't want it to suffer its last few minutes of life - that's something i wouldn't wish on someone i hated.

However the more common stunned method of halal i am okay with, but again i avoid it because i personally don't think it tastes any better and i don't know from which method they used to slaughter (non-stunned vs stunned). I also don't think it tastes better - just like most animals during slow death the muscles tense up and so i think personally meat from an animal that has a 'instant' death is better. Just like seafood with lobster being killed before vs during the boil. I prefer before as the meat ends up having better texture.

[gigantes]

i think there was an article / study from a few weeks ago which found that lobsters and crustaceans did in fact feel pain similar to mammals.

i had always thought that their neural systems were so distributed across their bodies that they didn't feel pain like us. for example, the way you could hack off a limb and it's local nerve cluster would make it keep flailing away...

[Dresta]

i don't think anyone expects you to care.

it's just that some people do care. a lot.

problem...?
Well, all tender feelings towards animals other than humans are pretty inconsistent and hypocritical unless you're a raving vegan (and even then). We, as human beings, have moulded the animal world to our own liking, fitted it to our own needs. Most animals only live because we have a need for them in the first place, creatures who from the very start were ravaged by their most blatant and savage enemy (us). Now, in a mode of the extremist vanity, we even claim affectionate feelings from our weakened and mutilated victims!

For me, there is no real difference between owning a dog (that has been bred so as to please humans), and eating veal (or foie gras) - it is the same principle: either you support the human subjugation of animals, or you do not (and in the latter case you better call a halt to the bulk of scientific research, for which cutting off the heads of baby mice with some scissors is a needed skill). I'm not even sure if it is possible to live aside from the subjugation of animals; most of us probably wouldn't even exist without it. Man must first be serious and open about such things if he is to be any kind of thinking being. The fanatical (and growing) movements for the rights of animals are as good a sign as any for the will to self-negation (i.e. shame, guilt at being human, desire to undermine everything upon which human life has thrived). It is a trend in the direction of Buddhism, which essentially, is a desire to negate life and to annihilate the self, and is born of a weariness of life and all it entails (joy, love, hate, pain, suffering, misery, happiness and the rest) - hence why it aims at eternal equanimity (the only way to avoid lows is to have no highs - joy is not worth it because it necessitates suffering, which is so much worse - this doctrine is fundamentally anti-life, and thus leads to its degeneration).

Animal lovers rarely think through the logic of their sentiments; feeling something is 'right' or 'wrong' is enough for them, so they adopt a religion of pity.

[BigNBAfan]

i think there was an article / study from a few weeks ago which found that lobsters and crustaceans did in fact feel pain similar to mammals.

i had always thought that their neural systems were so distributed across their bodies that they didn't feel pain like us. for example, the way you could hack off a limb and it's local nerve cluster would make it keep flailing away...

I'm sure they do, it's a matter of how length for me. I mean even sheer force through the brain using pneumatic pistons will kill near instantaneous, but who's to say that it isn't functioning for seconds or minutes afterwards. It's the best we can do really... and it sure beats cutting the animal in various spots alive.

[imdaman99]

That's some damn good eatin'
Most definitely is, although the hot sauce is way too spicy and I come from a culture that eats really spicy food :oldlol:

Had that one and their terrible compared to where I live in Queens up my block has the best carts. The whole entire zipcode has amazing carts. The entire food is different. The one in the city are absolutely 1/10 bad.
Even next to my colleges are terrible.
Had some yesterday and I had the smelliest shit today
The thing is, I used to think it was overrated as well. And then I tried a mix of BBQ sauce with it instead of too much hot sauce and it was so damn good. The white sauce is the key though. I think I like the one on Steinway more though, because eggplant goes perfect with it :pimp:

Is that the one where the line stretches around the block and corner? It's pretty damn good and you get great value for your money.
LOL yes. I can never finish 1 by myself or in 1 sitting. I am a skinny guy but I can eat a lot and I have never come close :lol I usually go to the one across the street from the one with the big line. It is the same guys and the line is obviously smaller.

It is good, but not as good as Calexico
Never had it, but if you recommend it I will put it on my bucket list :cheers:

[Draz]

Never even heard of this animal before
:roll: it's the one from a transgender

[Draz]

i think there was an article / study from a few weeks ago which found that lobsters and crustaceans did in fact feel pain similar to mammals.

i had always thought that their neural systems were so distributed across their bodies that they didn't feel pain like us. for example, the way you could hack off a limb and it's local nerve cluster would make it keep flailing away...
Don't you dare kill my love for seafood

[Nick Young]

Lions kill antelope and eat them alive while the antelope is still breathing.


We too are animals. Atleast we kill our prey before we chomp it down-not counting people who eat live frogs and octopuses.

[NumberSix]

Lions kill antelope and eat them alive while the antelope is still breathing.


We too are animals. Atleast we kill our prey before we chomp it down-not counting people who eat live frogs and octopuses.
No, they don't.

[LBJ 23]

No, they don't.

I'm not sure about lions but a lot of other predators do that, espically when hunting bigger prey which is difficult to handle. But I agree with you, if we kill animals we should do our best to do it as quick and as painless as possible.

[gigantes]

Well, all tender feelings towards animals other than humans are pretty inconsistent and hypocritical unless you're a raving vegan (and even then). We, as human beings, have moulded the animal world to our own liking, fitted it to our own needs. Most animals only live because we have a need for them in the first place, creatures who from the very start were ravaged by their most blatant and savage enemy (us). Now, in a mode of the extremist vanity, we even claim affectionate feelings from our weakened and mutilated victims!

For me, there is no real difference between owning a dog (that has been bred so as to please humans), and eating veal (or foie gras) - it is the same principle: either you support the human subjugation of animals, or you do not (and in the latter case you better call a halt to the bulk of scientific research, for which cutting off the heads of baby mice with some scissors is a needed skill). I'm not even sure if it is possible to live aside from the subjugation of animals; most of us probably wouldn't even exist without it. Man must first be serious and open about such things if he is to be any kind of thinking being. The fanatical (and growing) movements for the rights of animals are as good a sign as any for the will to self-negation (i.e. shame, guilt at being human, desire to undermine everything upon which human life has thrived). It is a trend in the direction of Buddhism, which essentially, is a desire to negate life and to annihilate the self, and is born of a weariness of life and all it entails (joy, love, hate, pain, suffering, misery, happiness and the rest) - hence why it aims at eternal equanimity (the only way to avoid lows is to have no highs - joy is not worth it because it necessitates suffering, which is so much worse - this doctrine is fundamentally anti-life, and thus leads to its degeneration).

Animal lovers rarely think through the logic of their sentiments; feeling something is 'right' or 'wrong' is enough for them, so they adopt a religion of pity.
well hello there, mister hyde. and how has doctor jekyll been?

you know, in buddhism there is a key observation that contradiction, paradox and even hypocrisy are fundamental aspects of life. but trying to separate these things overmuch from a certain 'pureness of form' is an age-old fool's errand as i see it.

anyway, i see no moral contradiction of the individual along the lines that you mention. i see the crazy contradictory way that life just be. people doing their best in a somewhat hypocritical situation.

at the same time, can PETA folks and crazed animal lovers take this stuff too far? sure. way too far... losing their sense of reason and reality along the way. but IMO there's precious little overlap between such folks and those who wish for humane treatment in the livestock industry.

[iTare]

I literally dont give a single f*ck about animals other than people/humans.

Even when my pet dog buddy got ran over I didn't give a f*ck I was just upset because it cost me 250 dollars to buy him and lord knows how much on food. It was actually good riddance tbh.

I repeat, I dont care at all about a dumb animal, espcially not ones that taste so good.

#teampeople

[DonDadda59]

We go by lion morality now?

Gonna eat so many fvkin christians

:oldlol:

[pauk]

Delicious.... eating Kebab as we speak... :confusedshrug:

[pauk]

On a more serious note...

Before you call something HALAL (especially that video) please understand what that is and what that is not.... according to Quran, Halal aint:

*Pork
*Blood
*Intoxicants and alcoholic beverages
*Carrion (carcasses of dead animals, i.e. animals who died in the wild)
*Animals killed incorrectly.
*An animal that has been mistreated, strangled, beaten (to death), killed by a fall, gored (to death), savaged by a beast of prey (unless finished off by a human) or sacrificed on a stone altar and so on.

The two latter parts are broken in that video.... because as far as "Halal" slaughter goes that what you showed is NOT... this is how it should look like by law: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vf1GybIL9gU There is a whole ritual/philosophy thing that happens which is kindof beautiful minded and obligatory, well as far as it can get by animal killing standards, its as humane as it can possibly get, just see the video (no killing happens, dont worry)... the animal must submit, making it calm, unaware and not see the knife.... a prayer then goes on... Its nice, it kindof reminds of that Avatar/Neytiri animal hunting kill scene/ritual...

Unfortunately the animal still has to die, there is no beautiful way for it to die, there is no beautiful for anything to die. As far as the initial cut goes, it looks gruesome, but the cut severes the jugular & carotid all the way to the spine, which immediately shuts down the blood, signals & oxygen to the brain.... the animal is instantly dead/unconscious/feeling no pain.... the movement that follows is only spasms....

This also serves in a way to efficiently remove blood from the body.... its for purification.... scientifically proven, major harm may result from this small amount of blood protein mixed with very harmful and poisonous elements, which means that ingesting it poses a great risk and puts a person in danger. Foremost among these dangers is the poisonous gas with which blood is filled, namely carbon dioxide which flows in venous blood from all parts of the body.... Scientific facts prove also that you would have to consume a way to huge amount of blood in order to avail yourself of a very small amount of blood protein and a little bit of iron that it is not worth the risk of exposing yourself to the dangers that could instead result....

So to be honest with you, i prefer authentic HALAL & KOSHER over anything else....

[gigantes]

cliffs notes:
halal sounds like the most painful system for animals to be slaughtered,
kosher sounds like the most painless system for animals to be slaughted.

is that correct or not?

[BigNBAfan]

On a more serious note...

Before you call something HALAL (especially that video) please understand what that is and what that is not.... according to Quran, Halal aint:

*Pork
*Blood
*Intoxicants and alcoholic beverages
*Carrion (carcasses of dead animals, i.e. animals who died in the wild)
*Animals killed incorrectly.
*An animal that has been mistreated, strangled, beaten (to death), killed by a fall, gored (to death), savaged by a beast of prey (unless finished off by a human) or sacrificed on a stone altar and so on.

The two latter parts are broken in that video.... because as far as "Halal" slaughter goes that what you showed is NOT... this is how it should look like by law: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vf1GybIL9gU There is a whole ritual/philosophy thing that happens which is kindof beautiful minded and obligatory, well as far as it can get by animal killing standards, its as humane as it can possibly get, just see the video (no killing happens, dont worry)... the animal must submit, making it calm, unaware and not see the knife.... a prayer then goes on... Its nice, it kindof reminds of that Avatar/Neytiri animal hunting kill scene/ritual...

Unfortunately the animal still has to die, there is no beautiful way for it to die, there is no beautiful for anything to die. As far as the initial cut goes, it looks gruesome, but the cut severes the jugular & carotid all the way to the spine, which immediately shuts down the blood, signals & oxygen to the brain.... the animal is instantly dead/unconscious/feeling no pain.... the movement that follows is only spasms....

This also serves in a way to efficiently remove blood from the body.... its for purification.... scientifically proven, major harm may result from this small amount of blood protein mixed with very harmful and poisonous elements, which means that ingesting it poses a great risk and puts a person in danger. Foremost among these dangers is the poisonous gas with which blood is filled, namely carbon dioxide which flows in venous blood from all parts of the body.... Scientific facts prove also that you would have to consume a way to huge amount of blood in order to avail yourself of a very small amount of blood protein and a little bit of iron that it is not worth the risk of exposing yourself to the dangers that could instead result....

So to be honest with you, i prefer authentic HALAL & KOSHER over anything else....


Umm last i checked no one gives a **** about beautiful death, we're talking about a mere painless one. Whenever you bleed an animal to death, of course there's pain. I've seen this done countless times where they hang the animal by a rope and slit its throat. The blood is naturally moving towards the head and brain and it struggles for minutes before going limp. It's not like the brain just dies instantly without blood. The residual oxygen is absorbed and the brain can actually survive for up to 10min without oxygen even thought it will have undergone irreversible harm.

Removing blood purifies what exactly? The meat still has blood on it and if we're being real, all harm from blood can be done at a cellular level so again, what purification? That scientific 'fact' you mention sounds like the most vague thing anyone has ever said on this forum. Let me paraphrase, if you consume blood there's a chance youll get sick - great, i can say this about anything.

And lastly, wtf are you talking about? CO poisoning from blood consumption? Are you being serious? I use to euthanize mice to isolate hematopoietic stem cells from bone marrow back in college and even when in a container with 100% CO2 it would take minutes. Do you know how much CO2 it takes to poison a human? More than they can eat and absorb from blood. And also, when animal blood mixes with ours, the surface proteins are foreign, the immune system will wipe them out, the blood of an animal doesn't become ours.... so again, wtf are you talking about with the CO poisoning.

[J Shuttlesworth]

Don't they drain the blood with halal meat? Seems like it would ruin a perfectly good steak

[KNOW1EDGE]

There is no difference between eating veal and owning a dog. :roll:

Dresta :bowdown:

[ArbitraryWater]

I don't eat any meat where animals have to suffer... anyway, I know, this is mostly the case, but I do my research before I buy that shit. Otherwise, first off I feel too bad for those animals, but I also just can't get it down my throat.


I obviously see the difference but, why should I care? Like I said, I am sitting here eating my cow, and you expect me to think if this cow was loved and cared before being killed?

you heartless sob

[Dresta]

There is no difference between eating veal and owning a dog. :roll:

Dresta :bowdown:
There is a difference brah, just not an objective ethical one. Human beings have got where they are by subjugating and enslaving whatever animals they could in order to aid in their growth and prosperity. Now that nearly everyone in the West lives pretty darn comfortably off the back of this, it is only a typical piece of human vanity to get all high and mighty over a bit of animal pain.

You should see the incredible suffering many human beings endure just to scrape the chance of a few extra years life. In many cases we legally compel them to endure such pain, even. It is strange that with us it is life that is sacrosanct, but with animals, only pain. There's just no consistency in such a position.

Human beings are really the most predatory animals in the entire animal kingdom, and have been for millennia. Without these predatory instincts the human race would be (collectively) a good deal worse off, that's for sure. If man had been incessantly guilt-ridden and bemoaning the suffering of poor animals from the off he would have become extinct long ago. These things are mere luxuries and self-indulgences (much life having a dog as a pet is btw).

[gigantes]

I don't eat any meat where animals have to suffer... anyway, I know, this is mostly the case, but I do my research before I buy that shit. Otherwise, first off I feel too bad for those animals, but I also just can't get it down my throat.

you heartless sob
go easy on him, leonard.

http://www.hollywoodchicago.com/sites/default/files/Vincent2.jpg


it sounds like he's an american, and americans are pretty much the most entitled, napoleon-complex bishes in the world. plus, you know... just being young and whatever.

[CelticBaller]

If it taste good ill eat it. We're on top of the foodchain so idgaf

[Giaodollo]

go easy on him, leonard.



it sounds like he's an american, and americans are pretty much the most entitled, napoleon-complex bishes in the world. plus, you know... just being young and whatever.

I am not american, Sir.

I'd like to point out that to the best of my knowledge I've never eaten halal meat. But if it makes you all feel better that an animal may have been killed in a merciful way despite not even knowing how, then good for yoy.

[Bosnian Sajo]

It becomes weird when every slaughterhouse has to use modern methods that are proven to cause a minimal amount of suffering to the animal, but then when religion is involved it's suddenly okay to do it the old fashioned way. A lot of halal butchers do already stun (essentially kill) the animal before they perform their ritual slaughter, I don't see why it can't be enforced.

If you are concerned about animal welfare though, the state the animals are in when they are alive should cause you much more concern than the possibly 5 seconds of pain they go through at the very end. These factory farms are crazy.

Noooope, that would be completely haram. Some of em stun the animal as to knock them out, but they do not use the cardiac arrest version of stunning where it would kill the animal. No way. And they shouldn't stun the animal at all, they should just do it the old fashioned way if they truly want it to be Halal, but people are ignorant these days. I forgot if it is in the Quran or it is a Hadith, but we as Muslims believe that the animal feels no pain if killed the proper way, and the bleeding out of the animal makes the meat taste better.

And this is not just coming from me, I sell Halal meat at my fresh market and all my customers (especially nonmuslim) always come back to tell me how my chicken/beef/w.e they bought tastes so much better than Publix and they end up buying more. They don't know anything about the slaughter tradition, all they know is that it is gooooood tasting meat.

Seafood is different. If you catch a fish out the water and are going to eat it, you are supposed to just leave it alone and let it die naturally. You're not supposed to cut off the head, once it dies it's fair game, but until then you wait.

[BigNBAfan]

Noooope, that would be completely haram. Some of em stun the animal as to knock them out, but they do not use the cardiac arrest version of stunning where it would kill the animal. No way. And they shouldn't stun the animal at all, they should just do it the old fashioned way if they truly want it to be Halal, but people are ignorant these days. I forgot if it is in the Quran or it is a Hadith, but we as Muslims believe that the animal feels no pain if killed the proper way, and the bleeding out of the animal makes the meat taste better.

And this is not just coming from me, I sell Halal meat at my fresh market and all my customers (especially nonmuslim) always come back to tell me how my chicken/beef/w.e they bought tastes so much better than Publix and they end up buying more. They don't know anything about the slaughter tradition, all they know is that it is gooooood tasting meat.

Seafood is different. If you catch a fish out the water and are going to eat it, you are supposed to just leave it alone and let it die naturally. You're not supposed to cut off the head, once it dies it's fair game, but until then you wait.

religion of peace

[MavsSuperFan]

not looking at the video, but what makes halal meat more offensive to Peta than Kosher meat or meat meat?
I'm not sure about kosher, because are halal and kosher the same thing?

But the slaughtering process used in the video is crueler than just killing them instantly. Dont care that much as they are just animals, but only religion could make someone go out of their way to inflict more pain, for the sake of ritual.

[MavsSuperFan]

Noooope, that would be completely haram. Some of em stun the animal as to knock them out, but they do not use the cardiac arrest version of stunning where it would kill the animal. No way. And they shouldn't stun the animal at all, they should just do it the old fashioned way if they truly want it to be Halal, but people are ignorant these days. I forgot if it is in the Quran or it is a Hadith, but we as Muslims believe that the animal feels no pain if killed the proper way, and the bleeding out of the animal makes the meat taste better.

And this is not just coming from me, I sell Halal meat at my fresh market and all my customers (especially nonmuslim) always come back to tell me how my chicken/beef/w.e they bought tastes so much better than Publix and they end up buying more. They don't know anything about the slaughter tradition, all they know is that it is gooooood tasting meat.

Seafood is different. If you catch a fish out the water and are going to eat it, you are supposed to just leave it alone and let it die naturally. You're not supposed to cut off the head, once it dies it's fair game, but until then you wait.

If you watched OP's video
1. Is that the proper way?
2. You dont honestly believe the animals slaughtered in that video didnt suffer more than if they had just been killed instantly?


the bleeding out of the animal makes the meat taste better.

That is interesting. I should try some halal meat

[LJJ]

Noooope, that would be completely haram. Some of em stun the animal as to knock them out, but they do not use the cardiac arrest version of stunning where it would kill the animal. No way. And they shouldn't stun the animal at all, they should just do it the old fashioned way if they truly want it to be Halal, but people are ignorant these days. I forgot if it is in the Quran or it is a Hadith, but we as Muslims believe that the animal feels no pain if killed the proper way, and the bleeding out of the animal makes the meat taste better.

And this is not just coming from me, I sell Halal meat at my fresh market and all my customers (especially nonmuslim) always come back to tell me how my chicken/beef/w.e they bought tastes so much better than Publix and they end up buying more. They don't know anything about the slaughter tradition, all they know is that it is gooooood tasting meat.

Seafood is different. If you catch a fish out the water and are going to eat it, you are supposed to just leave it alone and let it die naturally. You're not supposed to cut off the head, once it dies it's fair game, but until then you wait.

Meh. It's braindead before it's slaughtered and thus feels no pain. It's a technicality, if religious people want to cling to that I don't have a problem with that at all.

What you say about "We Muslims believe the animal feels no pain if slaughtered the right way" is just blatant scientific ignorance though.