What direction does Toronto go from now?

[Jameerthefear]

Casey will probably be fired after this series is over, but where do they go from now?

[SugarHill]

west
give them to Seattle

[Legends66NBA7]

:oldlol:

Jam, don't you hate the Raptors because of Real GM Raptors fans ?

[Bernkastel]

Home.

[Jameerthefear]

:oldlol:

Jam, don't you hate the Raptors because of Real GM Raptors fans ?
I don't. I like them, but I always knew the ceiling was very low with this core so their fan's cockiness was irritating as hell. Raps fans are horrid though on every place but ISH.

[Proctor]

Casey needs to be fired, yes, but this core will never go anywhere. Derozan and Lowry aren't that great. They have no veteran presence and Lou Williams is their only calm hand. It's a great thing to be young but they are in dire need of a vet. That would certainly help but I still think they are lightyears away from contending.

[kamil]

They'll implement the strategies from the successful Maple Leafs.

[Legends66NBA7]

I don't. I like them, but I always knew the ceiling was very low with this core so their fan's cockiness was irritating as hell. Raps fans are horrid though on every place but ISH.

Thanks for the honesty.

Seriously, as the (unconfirmed) leader of the Raptors here, we oppose everything of the Real GM board of the Raptors outside notthe gifs.


But yeah, on topic.... Team does have a low ceiling outside of JV and DD. Masai said he would make moves in the off season win or lose. ... let's see what happens.

[CelticBaller]

Back north after they get swept

[JellyBean]

west
give them to Seattle

As a Sonics fan, I like that idea. But on the real. The Raptors just have to stay committed to the plan that is in place. They have the pieces to be a playoff team, like the Bucks of the 1980s just not the location to be a strong contender.

[imnew09]

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[Legends66NBA7]

They'll implement the strategies from the successful Maple Leafs.

:roll:

I appreciate Kamil. If he isn't asterisking LeBron's name, he's has something to talk about Toronto on the real.

:cheers:

[bigkingsfan]

Resign Bargnani

[coin24]

In a better direction than the magic

[RRR3]

Raptors fans on realgm have really funny signature pictures though.

[Legends66NBA7]

Raptors fans on realgm have really funny signature pictures though.

This is much is true and Turbo Zone is the man.


But man, lots of bi polar dudes in that bitch. They go soooooo over the top its ridiculous. I im glad other team factions hate them.

If its here, I can at least defuse the shit. They take it too far.

[imnew09]

In a better direction than the magic

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[BurningHammer]

1. Fire Casey. He is a nice guy and has done a lot for team, but he has to go.

2. Keep the core of Lowry, Derozan and Valanciunas, unless there is a superstar-for-superstar trade offer you can't refuse.

3. Find a new borderline-star and/or veteran PF who can carry starter minutes.

4. If the offer is low enough, re-sign Amir Johnson as a primary back-up, otherwise let him go.

[bdreason]

Coach needs to go. Team needs to figure out what they want to do with their front court. Their current offense treats the front court players like lepers. Lowry and Derozan are solid players, but not you're not going to win playoff games with those guys just taking turns chucking.

[dubeta]

Derozan 11-29 would make Kobe proud :roll:

[Jameerthefear]

1. Fire Casey. He is a nice guy and has done a lot for team, but he has to go.

2. Keep the core of Lowry, Derozan and Valanciunas, unless there is a superstar-for-superstar trade offer you can't refuse.

3. Find a new borderline-star and/or veteran PF who can carry starter minutes.

4. If the offer is low enough, re-sign Amir Johnson as a primary back-up, otherwise let him go.
Why though?

[Beastmode88]

South..?

[BurningHammer]

Why though?
They are the best Raps have right now. Lowry and Derozan have proved they are very good when healthy. Valanciunas has great potential but with match-up fanatic Casey he hasn't got many chances to carry to the team down the line.

[Legends66NBA7]

@ Jam

While Lowry-DeRozan-Valanciunas might not be great, what other choice is there unless it's a complete rebuild ? I think DeMar can still be a great player with the right coach. Val can be too. Kyle is who he is.

Just get the correct talent around them unless it's a rebuild.

[Jameerthefear]

@ Jam

While Lowry-DeRozan-Valanciunas might not be great, what other choice is there unless it's a complete rebuild ? I think DeMar can still be a great player with the right coach. Val can be too. Kyle is who he is.

Just get the correct talent around them unless it's a rebuild.
Yeah I know. It's just...
When your 3 best players aren't even top 5 in their position how good can you be?

[SugarHill]

Yeah I know. It's just...
When your 3 best players aren't even top 5 in their position how good can you be?

What 5 shooting guards are better than Derozan?

[Legends66NBA7]

Yeah I know. It's just...
When your 3 best players aren't even top 5 in their position how good can you be?


It has to more with marketing than anything. While I don't like it either, it's still got 2nd round 3 round potential with the right talent around them.

SG is pretty weak. DeMar can still be considered top 5 (last year there were people saying he was top 3), if he plays correctly and doesn't suffer injuries. C, I don't think JV will ever be considered unless he takes a significant leap and I doubt he will take it. PG, Kyle was there for some time. His body is a question mark but the was hanging with the best of the best. Early on.


Personally, I would rather rebuild. But management probably won't do it.

[Jameerthefear]

Harden
Klay
Wade
Butler
Monta
those are undoubtedly

Then there's a couple u could still argue

[BurningHammer]

Yeah I know. It's just...
When your 3 best players aren't even top 5 in their position how good can you be?
Lowry arguably was a top 5 PG in the league earlier this season, but it came crashing down after All-Star Game due to injuries and other things. Derozan could have been there this season as well but injuries also held him down. Val is still far away from that level but he is slowly getting there.

[Legends66NBA7]

What 5 shooting guards are better than Derozan?

Harden is the only undisputed. Then Wade because. .. well its Wade.

Bird seed boy this year no doubt. Butler because of the D...

Everyone else seems fair game, though.

[Jameerthefear]

It has to more with marketing than anything. While I don't like it either, it's still got 2nd round 3 round potential with the right talent around them.

SG is pretty weak. DeMar can still be considered top 5 (last year there were people saying he was top 3), if he plays correctly and doesn't suffer injuries. C, I don't think JV will ever be considered unless he takes a significant leap and I doubt he will take it. PG, Kyle was there for some time. His body is a question mark but the was hanging with the best of the best. Early on.


Personally, I would rather rebuild. But management probably won't do it.
JV will probably be top 5 at one point. Lowry is... in his prime(?) and isn't. DD has time but I just don't really see an improvement to his game over the years.

[SugarHill]

Harden
Klay
Wade
Butler
Monta
those are undoubtedly

Then there's a couple u could still argue


Monta :roll:

[Legends66NBA7]

Harden
Klay
Wade
Butler
Monta
those are undoubtedly

Then there's a couple u could still argue

Honestly, with Monta, if DeMar was in the same system with Rick Carlisle.... I can't see a drop off. They have some what similar games.


I've said it before, Rick's system would be the perfect for DeMar.


Not that I have problem with Monta ranked higher.

[Jameerthefear]

Lowry arguably was a top 5 PG in the league earlier this season, but it came crashing down after All-Star Game due to injuries and other things. Derozan could have been there this season as well but injuries also held him down. Val is still far away from that level but he is slowly getting there.
I don't think Lowry was ever better than
Curry
CP3
Westbrook
Irving
Wall

[Legends66NBA7]

JV will probably be top 5 at one point. Lowry is... in his prime(?)Isn't. DD has time but I just don't really see an improvement to his game over the years.

Well, with Kyle I meant early on. This year shows he can't do it for a whole season. Top 10 he's a lock.

Agree with the rest, but I just think both JV and DD are playing in the wrong system. They'll be better if they had prope roles.

[BurningHammer]

I don't think Lowry was ever better than
Curry
CP3
Westbrook
Irving
Wall
During the first half of the season, it was Curry, Wall and Lowry.

[Jameerthefear]

Honestly, with Monta, if DeMar was in the same system with Rick Carlisle.... I can't see a drop off. They have some what similar games.


I've said it before, Rick's system would be the perfect for DeMar.


Not that I have problem with Monta ranked higher.
true, even if u did argue DD over monta though...
what difference does it really make since the position is so weak?

[Real14]

In a better direction than the magic
:roll:

[Legends66NBA7]

I don't think Lowry was ever better than
Curry
CP3
Westbrook
Irving
Wall

Last years Kyle was as good as Wall, Irving, and Lillard if not better IMO. But then again, it was a contract year.

[Jameerthefear]

Well, with Kyle I meant early on. This year shows he can't do it for a whole season. Top 10 he's a lock.

Agree with the rest, but I just think both JV and DD are playing in the wrong system. They'll be better if they had prope roles.
JV is DEFINITELY being utilized wrong. I don't think he's as bad of a defender as he gets pegged for also. Derozan to me though... iso-ball is just... his thing. That's the kind of player he is imo.

[Jameerthefear]

During the first half of the season, it was Curry, Wall and Lowry.
i don't think anyone really thought lowry was better than cp3, westbook, and kyrie...

[Legends66NBA7]

true, even if u did argue DD over monta though...
what difference does it really make since the position is so weak?

Like rule changes, it's not the fault of the players to take advantage of a weak position. It's what it is in this era.

It's not like prime Jordan, Kobe, and Wade are playing in the same era.

[Jameerthefear]

Like rule changes, it's not the fault of the players to take advantage of a weak position. It's what it is in this era.

It's not like prime Jordan, Kobe, and Wade are playing in the same era.
Yeah I know but I should be clearer with my point.
I don't think this core is good enough to win games. I don't think those 3 players fit that well and of course they have a weakness at the 3 that needs to be addressed.

[Legends66NBA7]

JV is DEFINITELY being utilized wrong. I don't think he's as bad of a defender as he gets pegged for also. Derozan to me though... iso-ball is just... his thing. That's the kind of player he is imo.

Exactly with JV. He needs to be a pick and roll player on offense and defense, not a banger.

It's actually the opposite with DeMar.

He's not an ISO player and Raptors fans have been yelling this out.... He has to come off screens !!!... He's so much better that way. Less ISO's, the more good DD you see. The more ISO's, the more bad DD you see.

[Jameerthefear]

Exactly with JV. He needs to be a pick and roll player on offense and defense, not a banger.

It's actually the opposite with DeMar.

He's not an ISO player and Raptors fans have been yelling this out.... He has to come off screens !!!... He's so much better that way. Less ISO's, the more good DD you see. The more ISO's, the more bad DD you see.
Guess I don't watch enough Derozan then. So where does Lowry fit in all of this?

[Legends66NBA7]

Guess I don't watch enough Derozan then. So where does Lowry fit in all of this?

You need 2 dominant ball handlers.

Healthy Lowry is the best, followed by DD. I just wish they ran more pick n roll for JV.