Loss is on Thibs, not Rose

[poido123]

Rose made two big plays to give the Bulls any chance of winning.


With .8 seconds, Thibs doesn't tell his big man to stay under the basket.


Like, isn't this high school basketball coaching right there? How can you do this in professional basketball.


Good coach my ass

[RoundMoundOfReb]

Loss is on Rose.

[Imtheman]

30 turnovers

[protox]

Rose choked. Get over it. :lol

[navy]

Basketball is a team game lol. Im not sure why you would give Rose a pass for
A) Turning it over and letting them get the ball in the first place
B) Falling asleep on pass to the basket

[zoom17]

Loss is on rose.

[24-Inch_Chrome]

Rose holding that L.

[Meticode]

The loss is on Rose ultimately. You give credit to Rose for even getting the Bulls in position to win, but you won't give credit to Rose putting them in position with the loss? The only reason that last second shot was even possible was because Rose turned the ball over with 2 seconds left.

Let's just say it, Rose was the reason the Bulls lost the game. Kidd was the reason the Bucks won yelling timeout in the official's ear.

[97 bulls]

Rose made two big plays to give the Bulls any chance of winning.


With .8 seconds, Thibs doesn't tell his big man to stay under the basket.


Like, isn't this high school basketball coaching right there? How can you do this in professional basketball.


Good coach my ass
He had Noah on the inbounder in order to not give him (I believe it was Dudley) a good look. It was all Rose. He just fell asleep.

[poido123]

Wow.


How do you guys not understand that a bigman should always be looking to block anything near the basket with .8 to go?


Is that really too hard to understand? Rose would never of had to be in a position to block or stop that shot if a big man was there to swipe that away

[Hit_Em]

30 turnovers

[poido123]

He had Noah on the inbounder in order to not give him (I believe it was Dudley) a good look. It was all Rose. He just fell asleep.


So why wasn't gasol/gibson under the basket to stop a close range shot when Noah was there?


Watching a different game to me I guess

[Meticode]

Wow.


How do you guys not understand that a bigman should always be looking to block anything near the basket with .8 to go?


Is that really too hard to understand? Rose would never of had to be in a position to block or stop that shot if a big man was there to swipe that away
Rose would've never been in that position if he didn't turn the ball over on offense on the previous play. The Bulls should've taken the last shot of the game, and they didn't because Rose turned the ball over. Big-man or not under the basket, the loss is on Rose.

[97 bulls]

The loss is on Rose ultimately. You give credit to Rose for even getting the Bulls in position to win, but you won't give credit to Rose putting them in position with the loss? The only reason that last second shot was even possible was because Rose turned the ball over with 2 seconds left.

Let's just say it, Rose was the reason the Bulls lost the game. Kidd was the reason the Bucks won yelling timeout in the official's ear.
I don't blame Rose for the TO. Butler brought his man to Rose. They shouldve rotated the opposite way.

[Human Error]

5-13 from the field + 8 turnovers.

[poido123]

Rose would've never been in that position if he didn't turn the ball over on offense on the previous play. The Bulls should've taken the last shot of the game, and they didn't because Rose turned the ball over. Big-man or not under the basket, the loss is on Rose.



going on that logic, bulls would never of been in the game 6 points down had rose not hit a 3 then a 3 point play assist.


GTFO

[imnew09]

Should've called a timeout to give Rose and company alittle rest but he just let em play through it :facepalm Agenda was too obvious

[97 bulls]

So why wasn't gasol/gibson under the basket to stop a close range shot when Noah was there?


Watching a different game to me I guess
No I see your point. It seems like they all were more worried about the jumpshot and git backdoored. But it wasn't .8, it was 1.3

[G0ATbe]

:facepalm

[24-Inch_Chrome]

They're going to win in 5 games, who gives a shit.

[imnew09]

They're going to win in 5 games, who gives a shit.

Rest days are important man, especially for playoff and D Rose/Noah/Gasol


Well I'm not surprised a dumb a$$ like you wouldn't understand that :rolleyes:

[Meticode]

going on that logic, bulls would never of been in the game 6 points down had rose not hit a 3 then a 3 point play assist.


GTFO
I am going by that logic. The reason the Bulls were that close was because of Rose's play down by six, now going forward the reason the Bucks were in that position is becuase Rose gave the ball with 1.3 left on the clock. Rose's fault.

[Milbuck]

http://i.imgur.com/e0zlL23.gif

[Cocaine80s]

Loss is on Rose

[24-Inch_Chrome]

Rest days are important man, especially for playoff and D Rose/Noah/Gasol


Well I'm not surprised a dumb a$$ like you wouldn't understand that :rolleyes:

I don't speak red bar. :confusedshrug:

Can someone translate this gibberish?

[nnn123]

Can we just say Jason Kidd ran a fantastic play without always feeling the need to scapegoat?

[J Shuttlesworth]

Why is poido melting down over this?

Loss is on Rose :biggums: Just like the game 2 Spurs Clippers loss was on Griffin

[poido123]

I am going by that logic. The reason the Bulls were that close was because of Rose's play down by six, now going forward the reason the Bucks were in that position is becuase Rose gave the ball with 1.3 left on the clock. Rose's fault.





:rolleyes:


That's what you are missing. Bulls weren't a chance to win that game AT ALL, if Rose hadn't performed the 6 point plays....


See how you are missing the point?

[Meticode]

Why is poido melting down over this?

Loss is on Rose :biggums: Just like the game 2 Spurs Clippers loss was on Griffin
He gives credit to Rose on previous plays to put the Bulls in position to even win it at the end, but then doesn't want to say Rose was the reason when he turns the ball over with 1.3 seconds left on the clock.

He calls me clueless when he's in such denial over it.

In any case, Bucks won this game. They caused the turnover, Kidd called a clutch timeout when most coaches wouldn't of even thought of it until it was too late, and then called a great play at the end.

[Meticode]

:rolleyes:


That's what you are missing. Bulls weren't a chance to win that game AT ALL, if Rose hadn't performed the 6 point plays....


See how you are missing the point?
Correct, I give credit for Rose getting the Bulls in that position to have a chance. Now...why can you NOT say it was Rose's fault they lost the game when he put the Bucks
in position with the turnover with 1.3 seconds left?

[J Shuttlesworth]

It's funny because I bet that Poido says LeBron choked game 6 against the Spurs away and was saved by a miracle 3 from Ray, despite scoring 16 4th quarter points, and the 3 before Ray's.

But then when Rose does this, it's on Thibs

[Meticode]

It's funny because I bet that Poido says LeBron choked game 6 against the Spurs away and was saved by a miracle 3 from Ray, despite scoring 16 4th quarter points, and the 3 before Ray's.

But then when Rose does this, it's on Thibs
I'm not going to go into hypotheticals here, all I know is even if you took Rose off the floor on that last play, the loss in my mind is still on Rose because he coughed up the ball with 1.3 left. The ONLY reason the Bucks were even in that position to win it is because of that turn over. If Rose makes the shot, they win the game, if Rose misses the shot, it's at least over-time and he's not to blame for anything.

Wait...I just went into a hypothetical. :lol

[97 bulls]

Correct, I give credit for Rose getting the Bulls in that position to have a chance. Now...why can you NOT say it was Rose's fault they lost the game when he put the Bucks
in position with the turnover with 1.3 seconds left?
Because the TO wasn't Roses fault, it was Butlers for bringing his man over to Rose.

[Cocaine80s]

It's funny because I bet that Poido says LeBron choked game 6 against the Spurs away and was saved by a miracle 3 from Ray, despite scoring 16 4th quarter points, and the 3 before Ray's.

But then when Rose does this, it's on Thibs
:roll:

[Milbuck]

I love how everyone is quick to point out possession by possession mistakes by Rose and/or Thibs but we don't hear a word about Noah. He is the clear weak link on this Bulls team imo.

I love Jo as much as any non-Bulls fan could, one of my favorite players in the league, but he is an absolute liability offensively right now, you can basically guard him like 20% and get away with it. When you have a defense as good as ours that's a HUGE advantage. And his defense hasn't been anywhere near his old standards to compensate.

[J Shuttlesworth]

I love how everyone is quick to point out possession by possession mistakes by Rose and/or Thibs but we don't hear a word about Noah. He is the clear weak link on this Bulls team imo.

I love Jo as much as any non-Bulls fan could, one of my favorite players in the league, but he is an absolute liability offensively right now, you can basically guard him like 20% and get away with it. When you have a defense as good as ours that's a HUGE advantage. And his defense hasn't been anywhere near his old standards to compensate.
If we're going to analyze the whole game, let's not forget that Rose had 5 pts, 6 turnovers on 1-8 shooting through the first 3 quarters. I'm just saying let's not act like Rose had nothing to do with this L like some people are saying.

[Foster5k]

The Bulls had every opportunity to close this game out. They were the lions that let the hyenas roam long enough to become a problem. When they finally realized they had to actually play playoff level basketball, in order to win the game, it was too late. By then, the game came down to a 1.3 seconds timeout, with one of the best point guards in NBA history, Jason Kidd, drawing up a winning play to ice the game.

This game wasn't on Rose or Thibs. It was on the entire team believing they could win this game with a lackluster effort. This loss was a wake up call for the Bulls.

[Meticode]

The Bulls had every opportunity to close this game out. They were the lions that let the hyenas roam long enough to become a problem. When they finally realized they had to actually play playoff level basketball, in order to win the game, it was too late. By then, the game came down to a 1.3 seconds timeout, with one of the best point guards in NBA history, Jason Kidd, drawing up a winning play to ice the game.

This game wasn't on Rose or Thibs. It was on the entire team believing they could win this game with a lackluster effort. This loss was a wake up call for the Bulls.
Except Butler. He came to play.

[Pointguard]

Because the TO wasn't Roses fault, it was Butlers for bringing his man over to Rose.
Thanks you beat me to it. What was Butler thinking given the time on the clock. That was a basic spacing principle he missed. Rose also missed a basic defensive principle.

But I rather the Bulls iron out some teams things in this series rather than have it work against them against the Cavs. Positives are getting Rose and Mirotic some playing time together. Work on their team spacing. Most of the Bulls players have had rest the last month of the season except Gas. Negatives, Noah isn't getting any lift and seems tired at times. Gasol doesn't seem tired. So the extra game is better for the team overall.

[zizozain]

agreed with OP.

[Jameerthefear]

It was on Rose. OP is a ****ing moron

[AngelEyes]

This loss is completely on Derrick Rose and only a fool would suggest otherwise. The ****ing dolt of an OP pinning this loss on Thibs is easily one of the dumbest things I've read on this forum. Rose lost the game for his team and it was so blatantly obvious. First the reckless turnover and then the completely foolish, lazy defensive play that led to a wide open layup. Rose ****ed up today.

[bballnoob1192]

who cares lol. not like bucks have any chance to win the series. why nikkas so insecure when they are up 3-1

[nba_55]

It's funny because I bet that Poido says LeBron choked game 6 against the Spurs away and was saved by a miracle 3 from Ray, despite scoring 16 4th quarter points, and the 3 before Ray's.

But then when Rose does this, it's on Thibs

Actually, replace Rose with Lebron in the same exact situation as tonight, and Pedo makes a thread saying Lebron choked and made his team lose.

[NZStreetBaller]

Thibs is an awesome coach. Took down the prime lebron hames with the miami heat stacked teams 27 win streak. With a bunch of scrubs. No rose needed.

[PWB15]

Thibs is an awesome coach. Took down the prime lebron hames with the miami heat stacked teams 27 win streak. With a bunch of scrubs. No rose needed.


Awesome? let's not get crazy

[Hey Yo]

Rose made two big plays to give the Bulls any chance of winning.


With .8 seconds,hibs doesn't tell his big man to stay under the basket.


Like, isn't this high school basketball coaching right there? How can you do this in professional basketball.


Good coach my ass
1.3 seconds left.....Rose never saw the inbounds pass.

that's a choke.

[JebronLames]

can't wait for the pedo meltdown when LeBron destroys them.

[Pointguard]

This loss is completely on Derrick Rose and only a fool would suggest otherwise. The ****ing dolt of an OP pinning this loss on Thibs is easily one of the dumbest things I've read on this forum. Rose lost the game for his team and it was so blatantly obvious. First the reckless turnover and then the completely foolish, lazy defensive play that led to a wide open layup. Rose ****ed up today.
LOL, games are now two plays? Do you realize that they are not in that game with 2 minutes to go? So Rose responsible for 6 points in 20 seconds doesn't happen and the rest of the plays are useless. You are not bright enough to know that there were severe spacing problems the whole game that caused like 26 turnovers. And you are looking at the last two plays? And think you are smarter than people who tell you the impact of the whole game was more than the last two plays.

[poido123]

It was on Rose. OP is a ****ing moron



You didn't watch the game.


Go back to the rumpus room, child.

[Pointguard]

1.3 seconds left.....Rose never saw the inbounds pass.

that's a choke.
He overplayed the jump shot. With 1 second to play its better to commit when you have a defensively disciplined team. You keep a big at the rim most of the time.

[poido123]

Correct, I give credit for Rose getting the Bulls in that position to have a chance. Now...why can you NOT say it was Rose's fault they lost the game when he put the Bucks
in position with the turnover with 1.3 seconds left?


The game was lost without him.


I don't know how you hold someone accountable for carrying the team back in it, then blaming him for a turnover after 2 game changing plays?


The last play was on the coach. No way Rose should be isolated with a man under the basket like that without a big man there.

[Cocaine80s]

Quit making excuses for Rose, he ****ed up.

[J Shuttlesworth]

It seems pretty obvious that Kidd drew up the play to see if Rose would bite because he was the worst defender on the floor. It worked perfectly.

[Wiltside]

Agreed with the OP.

[buddha]

loss is on Rose, Jimmy Buckets should have had the final possession.

[RedBlackAttack]

There seems to be an odd fixation on Rose by a lot of Chicago fans and after what has happened to both his health and the inconsistency in his game, I find myself wondering why they are so quick to both shower him with praise when they win and he plays adequate/well while finding someone (anyone) else to pin it on when the Bulls lose, even when he puts forth a pretty lousy effort.

I understand why it is so important for that franchise to maintain the image of Rose as a shoe-in MVP candidate if he plays the required number of games. But, the problem is, he doesn't seem to be able to consistently play at the level he did in 2011... or really even get close to it. His best games now that are discussed as epic revivals would be a relative blip on the radar screen if we were looking at his game in 2011 context.

Tonight, after a couple of very solid games in this series, he showed the inconsistencies again and had a lousy game.

Was this loss Rose's "fault"? I'd say absolutely not, but for a different reason. It wasn't his fault because -- at this stage -- no one in their right mind should be expecting him to consistently be the difference for the Bulls down the stretch in close playoff games.

If I were a Bulls fan, I'd spend much more of my time discussing what an incredible two-way player Jimmy Butler is becoming. To me, he is far and away the best all-around player on that team. So, if it comes down to it, he is the guy I'd expect to consistently show up, not Rose.

He did tonight with another great game that almost was enough to lead CHI to a sweep. Rose, meanwhile, played just well enough to not be a topic of negative discussion tomorrow. Did he pretty much suck for the vast majority of the game? Yeah, but is anyone truly surprised?

And Butler played great. That was the least surprising thing and something CHI fans should be spending more keystrokes discussing. JMO

[LongLiveTheKing]

Rose takes another L in the playoffs.

[sbw19]

Last possession? It's all Dudley (and Kidd by extension.) He tricked Noah (and Rose,) by faking the pass, head-faking and then throwing a killer assist on-target. I'd have asked Butler to guard the paint and put Rose on the perimeter.

The turnover that lead to all of that however, it's on Rose.

[funnystuff]

Thibs didn't cause 8 turnovers :confusedshrug:

[dunksby]

Rose had a shitty game and it cost them, but why criticize Rose when OP can throw the-already-leaving coach under the boss.

[poido123]

Rose had a shitty game and it cost them, but why criticize Rose when OP can throw the-already-leaving coach under the boss.


5 years of the same mistakes, over and over.


After a while, you get tired of it. You should know, you had Brooks :confusedshrug:

[Koresh]

OP's tears are so damn salty and delicious. His weird fascination with Rose is clouded by his constant jacking off sessions when he watches him play. Rose lost them that game. Like others have said, if this was LeBron, he would have said he choked and cost them the game. Rose is never accountable for anything. Ruck Thibs, he is getting fired this offseason but give Rose his lumps. He didn't defend that brilliant play.

Ruck you, poido, you dick juggler. Go back to inhaling Rose's dick, bitch. :roll:

[poido123]

OP's tears are so damn salty and delicious. His weird fascination with Rose is clouded by his constant jacking off sessions when he watches him play. Rose lost them that game. Like others have said, if this was LeBron, he would have said he choked and cost them the game. Rose is never accountable for anything. Ruck Thibs, he is getting fired this offseason but give Rose his lumps. He didn't defend that brilliant play.

Ruck you, poido, you dick juggler. Go back to inhaling Rose's dick, bitch. :roll:


Here's that rare sighting from Koresh again.


Living rent free in your head has been a pleasure :applause:


Not sure what "ruck you" is, and I have grilled Rose many times in other games, but you need to understand the game outside of "what happened on the last play", which ISH seems to have a fascination with.


I'll explain it for you.


Butler lead the defender into Rose and Rose turned the ball over because of Butler's stupidity. On the last play, Thibs fails to instruct a big man to stay under the basket in case of a close to the basket lob pass. What do you know? a lob pass goes to a guy under the basket and they win the game.


Incompetent coach who has done stupid shit like this for 5 years. Takes nothing away from his elite defensive schemes, but a lot of his other coaching skills leave a lot to be desired.

[retaxis]

Irving is going to destroy Rose so bad:roll:

[poido123]

Irving is going to destroy Rose so bad:roll:


Like this year right?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AaBkzXPdCiI

[Jameerthefear]

You didn't watch the game.


Go back to the rumpus room, child.
What in the **** is a rumpus room? Go back to packing bags bitch.

[Jameerthefear]

And it's funny how OP now blames Butler for the turnover but in his own words the Bulls wouldn't have been in the game without Butler's 30 points.

[poido123]

What in the **** is a rumpus room? Go back to packing bags bitch.



:rolleyes:


You should leave your mum's teat before calling out other people's jobs Jaqueer

[poido123]

And it's funny how OP now blames Butler for the turnover but in his own words the Bulls wouldn't have been in the game without Butler's 30 points.



Stop making shit up.


I didn't say that :hammerhead:

[Jameerthefear]

:rolleyes:


You should leave your mum's teat before calling out other people's jobs Jaqueer
Go to work baggage boy

[Jameerthefear]

Stop making shit up.


I didn't say that :hammerhead:
Missing my point jack ass. Just like the Bulls wouldn't be in the game without Rose's 3 they wouldn't have been in the game with Butler's much more important 30 points, yet you have no problem blaming him for a turnover that ROSE had. You're a clown.

[poido123]

Go to work baggage boy



Have you even got a job? :oldlol:

[T_L_P]

This is just my opinion (so don't flame me, posters), but I think this loss is on Rose.

[Jameerthefear]

The funny thing is that turnover was on Rose just as much as Butler too.
Rose dribbling into a crowd with his head down and Butler is just trying to adjust to give him a look for a pass.
https://youtu.be/artMGWdGE6A?t=2m11s

[Jameerthefear]

Have you even got a job? :oldlol:
Yes baggage boy. I do have a job.

[poido123]

Missing my point jack ass. Just like the Bulls wouldn't be in the game without Rose's 3 they wouldn't have been in the game with Butler's much more important 30 points, yet you have no problem blaming him for a turnover that ROSE had. You're a clown.



I don't expect a 16 year old to understand this, but Butler lead the defender into Rose which caused a cluster and the eventual turnover. 6 of the points leading up to the tied game came from Rose play. Without that, Bulls were not in the game.


Your POS team is busy collecting fish, while my team is 1 win away from round 2.


Take this L

[poido123]

Yes baggage boy. I do have a job.


what is the profession?

[Jameerthefear]

I don't expect a 16 year old to understand this, but Butler lead the defender into Rose which caused a cluster and the eventual turnover. 6 of the points leading up to the tied game came from Rose play. Without that, Bulls were not in the game.


Your POS team is busy collecting fish, while my team is 1 win away from round 2.


Take this L
What about Butler's 30 points? They don't count now because Rose turned it over on a play that was mostly his fault? It was really both of them. The reluctance to blame Rose when Butler was the best player on the floor is hilarious

https://youtu.be/artMGWdGE6A?t=2m11s

[poido123]

What about Butler's 30 points? They don't count now because Rose turned it over on a play that was mostly his fault?
Watch the ****ing play and tell me this was mostly Butler's fault. I ****ing dare you.
https://youtu.be/artMGWdGE6A?t=2m11s


Play it slow motion from 2:13 to 2:15


Notice how Butler shifting from the left side of the perimeter (where he should of stayed), to the top of the perimeter allowed Middleton to move towards rose and stick his long arms in for the disruption.


Had Butler of stayed at the left side of the perimeter, Middleton would of had to keep between him and the basket, which would not allow Middleton to sneak towards where rose was operating.


If you don't understand that, then you have limited understanding of basketball and I'm wasting my time.

[Jameerthefear]

Play it slow motion from 2:13 to 2:15


Notice how Butler shifting from the left side of the perimeter (where he should of stayed), to the top of the perimeter allowed Middleton to move towards rose and stick his long arms in for the disruption.


Had Butler of stayed at the left side of the perimeter, Middleton would of had to keep between him and the basket, which would not allow Middleton to sneak towards where rose was operating.


If you don't understand that, then you have limited understanding of basketball and I'm wasting my time.
No he wouldn't have. Rose was going to get tripled in that situation. Hell, he already ****ing starts cheating over before Butler even moves. Watch the ****ing play yourself.

[poido123]

No he wouldn't have. Rose was going to get tripled in that situation. Hell, he already ****ing starts cheating over before Butler even moves. Watch the ****ing play yourself.



Middleton not putting his hands in there was the difference between a turnover and a pass off or time expiring for OT.


There was a around a second on the clock, time would of run out.

[Jameerthefear]

Middleton not putting his hands in there was the difference between a turnover and a pass off or time expiring for OT.


There was a around a second on the clock, time would of run out.
http://i.imgur.com/GbQbmfr.png
Butler hadn't even taken a step yet and Middleton was playing that far off of him. He shouldn't have moved to the top but Middleton was likely just going to help triple team him regardless.

[cltcfn2924]

Wow.


How do you guys not understand that a bigman should always be looking to block anything near the basket with .8 to go?


Is that really too hard to understand? Rose would never of had to be in a position to block or stop that shot if a big man was there to swipe that away


Rose wouldn't have been in that position if he hadn't turned it over. Common practice to put your big on the inbounder so all he can throw is a floater. Terrible misplay by Rose, just man up.

[cltcfn2924]

So why wasn't gasol/gibson under the basket to stop a close range shot when Noah was there?


Watching a different game to me I guess


They had their own men to guard. I guess they did ok?

[juju151111]

Rose already admitted it was his fault and wasn't paying attention .

[SwayDizzle]

This L is totally on Rose. Whenever the game is tied and you lose possession with a few seconds left to allow the opposing team a chance, the L is on you.

[nathanjizzle]

rose ****ed up. but its best to **** up in a game that you can afford to lose.

[chips93]

So why wasn't gasol/gibson under the basket to stop a close range shot when Noah was there?


Watching a different game to me I guess

because gibson was guarding his man (henson), who was a screener, so he could switch out onto any bucks shooter than came off his pick

rose got burned, you cant just give up a backdoor layup like that. there is no way a player should need help defense to stop jarde bayless going backdoor on you, just keep him in front and fore him to score over you.

[chips93]

Can we just say Jason Kidd ran a fantastic play without always feeling the need to scapegoat?

it was a clever play, but it relied on rose ****ing up

[smoovegittar]

:applause: This thread exposing the fact that some on ISH actually have a grasp of the game. Wow.

[beastee]

rose ****ed up. but its best to **** up in a game that you can afford to lose.
That is just it. He blew it. But without him they wont beat the cavs so I would rather him have a mental mistake now. The haters will ignore how great he has looked the rest of the series and focus on this because they are pathetic...but the bucks play much better defense than the cavs do so I'm not too surprised he had a mediocre game.

[El Gato Negro]

Meltdowns starting early, bulls fans way to emotional.

[Pointguard]

There seems to be an odd fixation on Rose by a lot of Chicago fans and after what has happened to both his health and the inconsistency in his game, I find myself wondering why they are so quick to both shower him with praise when they win and he plays adequate/well while finding someone (anyone) else to pin it on when the Bulls lose, even when he puts forth a pretty lousy effort.
Could be because of the haters, like yourself, said he was done??? That he wasn't gong to get any better? Are you implying that he should be consistently at this level at seven games in. When they realized he was playing impaired, haters, like yourself, aren't going to say, "I judged too harshly." But the second you guys get a chance to say and start hater threads....


I understand why it is so important for that franchise to maintain the image of Rose as a shoe-in MVP candidate if he plays the required number of games. But, the problem is, he doesn't seem to be able to consistently play at the level he did in 2011...
Why are you saying this??? Its 7 games after three years of a continuous injury.


If I were a Bulls fan, I'd spend much more of my time discussing what an incredible two-way player Jimmy Butler is becoming. To me, he is far and away the best all-around player on that team. So, if it comes down to it, he is the guy I'd expect to consistently show up, not Rose.
I don't think any Bulls fan's wants your sanction. "consistently, show up" is not the same thing as win the series. Are you trying to convince yourself?


He did tonight with another great game that almost was enough to lead CHI to a sweep. Rose, meanwhile, played just well enough to not be a topic of negative discussion tomorrow. Did he pretty much suck for the vast majority of the game? Yeah, but is anyone truly surprised?
They shouldn't be. Consistency is not going to be his thing right away. Once again he's only 7 games in. If Butler proves himself, great! Great guy, great two way player. I hope he steps it up. He isn't proven yet but he looks great. Rose with the meniscus tear is the only guy I seen will a win against GS in GS with the splash brothers hot this year. And Rose did it with his game off. There are things in leadership, courage and heart that not easily cast aside. As Rose goes, so do the Bulls.

[24-Inch_Chrome]

Rose actually took responsibility for the loss (http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/basketball/bulls/ct-main-bulls-bucks-spt-0426-20150425-story.html), so all the player stans defending him need to stop posting. It was his fault, he stepped up and acknowledged, it's time for you to take off your blinders and follow his lead.

It's just one game, Bulls are gonna win in 5 anyway.

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Rose actually took responsibility for the loss (http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/basketball/bulls/ct-main-bulls-bucks-spt-0426-20150425-story.html), so all the player stans defending him need to stop posting. It was his fault, he stepped up and acknowledged, it's time for you to take off your blinders and follow his lead.

It's just one game, Bulls are gonna win in 5 anyway.
He's talking about the play. Rose takes responsibility for a lot. That's his character and the best way to motivate and change things for the next game. I admit he goofed the plays but the title is about the game. The loss was good for the team, as they need to work out spacing issues before going to Cleveland where the loss means much more. The 26 turnovers (17 between the three stars Rose/Butler/Gasol). Its on the coach to work out spacing issues.