The Guards in the first round

[SugarHill]

Beal

21/5/4 @ 38 FG% and 46 TS%

Wall

17/4/12.5 @ 39 FG% and 52 TS%

Curry

34/5/7 @ 45 FG% and 61 TS%

Klay

25/3/2 @ 49 FG% and 62 TS%

Lowry

12/5.5/5 @ 32 FG% and 40 TS%

Derozan

20/6/6 @ 41 FG% and 46 TS%

Lillard

18/4/4 @ 35 FG% and 43 TS%

Conley

16/2/3 @ 51 FG% and 59 TS%

Kyrie

23/5/4 @ 44 FG% and 58 TS%

Isaiah Thomas

17.5/3/7 @ 33 FG% and 51 TS%

Tony Parker

9/2/2.5 @ 32 FG% and 36 TS%

CP3

23.5/5/6 @ 51 FG% and 65 TS%

Teague

15/2/5 @ 39 FG% and 49 TS%

Jimmy Butler

28/5/3 @ 55 FG% and 67 TS%

Harden

28.5/4/8 @ 44 FG% and 65 TS%

Monta

26/3/5 @ 47 FG% and 56 TS%

Rose

21.5/4/7.5 @ 44 FG% and 59 TS%

MCW

12/3.5/5 % 38 FG% and 40 TS%

[Fudge]

Terny Perker and Kal Larry stand out the most to me.

Certified BUMS.

[aj1987]

CP3 had only 6 APG? :biggums:

Nice to see Rose doing well.

MCW is garbage. As are the Raptors Guards.

[LoneyROY7]

Jimmi Butlar. :eek:

[SugarHill]

CP3 had only 6 APG? :biggums:

Nice to see Rose doing well.

MCW is garbage. As are the Raptors Guards.

Tony is killing it in the butt department. A tier of his own

[aj1987]

Tony is killing it in the butt department. A tier of his own
Isn't he injured? I though he had a ****ed up knee/hamstring....?

[Wiltside]

Tony Parker so bad now :eek:

[T_L_P]

Isn't he injured? I though he had a ****ed up knee/hamstring....?

Injury isn't doing that to him (he's moving more than well enough on the court).

His conditioning, laziness on defense and selfishness is making him the worst rotation player in the postseason. Just torture watching this clown try to play right now.

[sd3035]

Curry, Harden, and Butler :applause: :applause:

[ArbitraryWater]

Gotta love Tony, realizes he's shit so he shoots less to not hurt the team more other than the others :applause:

Also, you got his stats bit wrong, unless these were previous to Game 4, but he's shooting 33%.

All this WHILE injured, AND leading a Team to the title JUST LAST YEAR.

One of the GOAT PG's certainly :bowdown:

[aj1987]

Injury isn't doing that to him (he's moving more than well enough on the court).

His conditioning, laziness on defense and selfishness is making him the worst rotation player in the postseason. Just torture watching this clown try to play right now.
:roll:

I expected you to be the first one to reply to my posts. Did not disappoint.

[T_L_P]

:roll:

I expected you to be the first one to reply to my posts. Did not disappoint.

Any thoughts on it though? I mean, you've seen the games.

How exactly is his "injury" turning him into such a horrible player?

He has no lift and he's lost a step because he exited his prime before our eyes. Nothing more, nothing less.

[Eric Cartman]

Parker is worse than MCW.

Let that sink in.

[ArbitraryWater]

Healthy Tony teared shit up to end the season...

March 4th to RS end (23 games): 16/5 on 54% in 29 MPG :bowdown:
March 3rd - March 20th (9 games): 21/3/6 on 59% in 32 MPG :bowdown:

[SugarHill]

Gotta love Tony, realizes he's shit so he shoots less to not hurt the team more other than the others :applause:

Also, you got his stats bit wrong, unless these were previous to Game 4, but he's shooting 33%.

All this WHILE injured, AND leading a Team to the title JUST LAST YEAR.

One of the GOAT PG's certainly :bowdown:

I still have 28 FG% including game 4 :confusedshrug:

[StephHamann]

Rajon Rondo: http://www.quickmeme.com/img/8b/8bce00e2853c6e2114fa905d9e8feaba2ba1bc0753ab4c60a0 ff55c99fb337a5.jpg

[ArbitraryWater]

I still have 28 FG% including game 4 :confusedshrug:

:wtf:

BR, right?

http://i.gyazo.com/03b069d6068b843a86e46b82704d2345.png

[T_L_P]

That 4.1 PER, -0.2 WS, -0.072 WS/48. Was second-to-last in RPM for all PGs this season.

Is this the worst fall-off from an All-Star ever?

[ImKobe]

Any thoughts on it though? I mean, you've seen the games.

How exactly is his "injury" turning him into such a horrible player?

He has no lift and he's lost a step because he exited his prime before our eyes. Nothing more, nothing less.

Bull. He has no lift because of his lower body injuries, he looked much more athletic just a few weeks ago, you want to tell me a player loses that much athleticism just in a few weeks span? He's obviously not nearly a 100% and Chris Paul deserves credit for his defense on Tony.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tgXsRkJc3rs

[ArbitraryWater]

That 4.1 PER, -0.2 WS, -0.072 WS/48. Was second-to-last in RPM for all PGs this season.

Is this the worst fall-off from an All-Star ever?

bro, what are those numbers and where are they from?!

Kind of hard to top a title leading season (nah forreal, last year honestly could have gone to anyone from Timmy/Kawhi/Manu/Tony.. crazy)

[ImKobe]

That 4.1 PER, -0.2 WS, -0.072 WS/48. Was second-to-last in RPM for all PGs this season.

Is this the worst fall-off from an All-Star ever?

Not really, it's just that Chris Paul has been at his best offensively while Tony is clearly not even at his average level right now. He needs to sit until he heals up :confusedshrug:

Spurfans have always treated Tony the same way Laker fans treated Pau.

[TheMarkMadsen]

Beal

21/5/4 @ 37 FG% and 46 TS%

Wall

17/4/12.5 @ 43 FG% and 52 TS%

Curry

34/5/7 @ 45 FG% and 61 TS%

Klay

25/3/2 @ 49 FG% and 62 TS%

Lowry

12/5.5/5 @ 32 FG% and 40 TS%

Derozan

20/6/6 @ 41 FG% and 46 TS%

Lillard

18/4/4 @ 35 FG% and 43 TS%

Conley

16/2/3 @ 51 FG% and 59 TS%

Kyrie

23/5/4 @ 42 FG% and 58 TS%

Isaiah Thomas

17.5/3/7 @ 33 FG% and 51 TS%

Tony Parker

9/2/2.5 @ 28 FG% and 36 TS%

CP3

23.5/5/6 @ 51 FG% and 65 TS%

Teague

15/2/5 @ 39 FG% and 49 TS%

Jimmy Butler

28/5/3 @ 55 FG% and 67 TS%

Harden

28.5/4/8 @ 44 FG% and 65 TS%

Monta

26/3/5 @ 47 FG% and 56 TS%

Rose

21.5/4/7.5 @ 44 FG% and 59 TS%

MCW

12/3.5/5 % 38 FG% and 40 TS%

Kyrie shot 44% not 42%

[T_L_P]

bro, what are those numbers and where are they from?!

Kind of hard to top a title leading season (nah forreal, last year honestly could have gone to anyone from Timmy/Kawhi/Manu/Tony.. crazy)

First set are this series so far, RPM:

http://espn.go.com/nba/statistics/rpm/_/page/2/sort/RPM/position/1

Turns out I was wrong, Parker is actually #68 of the 84 PGs listed. :bowdown:

We hashed this out before. By the end you whimpered "You won this" when I exposed Parker's mediocre play last postseason.

Kawhi, Duncan and Manu were much, much better than Parker (somehow, someway, neither of those guys ranked below Jeff Ayres or Marco Bellineli in multiple advanced stats). You said the Spurs looked deadlier when Parker dominated and I proved that we were better with Mills in for him (defense everywhere on the floor, the ball was not sticking like it does with Parker).

That you'd even entertain Parker having a better postseason run than Duncan, Manu or Kawhi last year is craay.

We looked better when Tony wasn't over-dribbling and forcing shots, playing some of the worst defense any star player ever has, and the numbers say he was the most mediocre Spur of them all.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/pcm_finder.cgi?request=1&sum=0&y1=2014&p1=parketo01&y2=2014&p2=ginobma01&y3=2014&p3=duncati01&y4=2014&p4=leonaka01&p5=&p6=

Of the 4, Parker is dead last in:

PER (-5.3 on highest Spur
TS% (-0.075 on highest Spur)
WS (-2.1 on highest Spur)
WS/48 (-0.133 on highest Spur)
OBPM (literally all he's good for, 0.0, -4.9 on highest Spur)
DBPM (-4.0 on highest Spur)
Net Rating

However, Tony P. did manage to lead us in USG%!

[ArbitraryWater]

First set are this series so far, RPM:

http://espn.go.com/nba/statistics/rpm/_/page/2/sort/RPM/position/1

Turns out I was wrong, Parker is actually #68 of the 84 PGs listed. :bowdown:

We hashed this out before. By the end you whimpered "You won this" when I exposed Parker's mediocre play last postseason.

Kawhi, Duncan and Manu were much, much better than Parker (somehow, someway, neither of those guys ranked below Jeff Ayres or Marco Bellineli in multiple advanced stats). You said the Spurs looked deadlier when Parker dominated and I proved that we were better with Mills in for him (defense everywhere on the floor, the ball was not sticking like it does with Parker).

That you'd even entertain Parker having a better postseason run than Duncan, Manu or Kawhi last year is craay.

We looked better when Tony wasn't over-dribbling and forcing shots, playing some of the worst defense any star player ever has, and the numbers say he was the most mediocre Spur of them all.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/pcm_finder.cgi?request=1&sum=0&y1=2014&p1=parketo01&y2=2014&p2=ginobma01&y3=2014&p3=duncati01&y4=2014&p4=leonaka01&p5=&p6=

Of the 4, Parker is dead last in:

PER (-5.3 on highest Spur
TS% (-0.075 on highest Spur)
WS (-2.1 on highest Spur)
WS/48 (-0.133 on highest Spur)
OBPM (literally all he's good for, 0.0, -4.9 on highest Spur)
DBPM (-4.0 on highest Spur)
Net Rating

However, Tony P. did manage to lead us in USG%!

I said that? Looks like something I'd say about Kawhi..

anyway, damn, hand me this L, boss

[Mawly-G]

Kyle Lousy has definitely been ultra bad lately. I know he hasn't been 100% healthy but still. I think he has a stretch during this series where he shot 1-18 or something close to that.

[imdaman99]

Makes me miss Goatbrook so much :( Imagine the numbers he would put up against Golden State as the man on the team. 30-10-10. Sure they would lose, but that's cuz the Warriors are stacked :oldlol: I think he would have gotten them at least 1-2 wins though :confusedshrug:

[aj1987]

Makes me miss Goatbrook so much :( Imagine the numbers he would put up against Golden State as the man on the team. 30-10-10. Sure they would lose, but that's cuz the Warriors are stacked :oldlol: I think he would have gotten them at least 1-2 wins though :confusedshrug:
He averaged 24/8/10 on 33/26/70. He basically took 23 shots and 10 FT's a game to put up 24 points.

They would've gotten swept as well.

[imdaman99]

He averaged 24/8/10 on 33/26/70. He basically took 23 shots and 10 FT's a game to put up 24 points.

They would've gotten swept as well.
You don't know the future. Go post in a Lebron thread since you're on his PR team.

30-10-10 sounds about right, since the Warriors were not overly impressive against the Pellies.

[aj1987]

You don't know the future. Go post in a Lebron thread since you're on his PR team.
:roll:

Rent free. Bringing up LeBron in a thread about Guards.


30-10-10 sounds about right, since the Warriors were not overly impressive against the Pellies.
Sure 30/10/10 with ~7 TOV's on sub 50% TS efficiency and a sweep.

[Hamtaro CP3KDKG]

CP fcking 3 nikkas:applause: :applause: :applause:
yall gotta realize Kawhi/Danny is by far the best perimeter defender tandem in the league. They will be in the alltime discussions if they stay together

[hawksdogsbraves]

Teague has been really bad so far, he's got to turn it up if the Hawks are going to make it through the second round. Hell, we could lose the damned Nets series if he keeps playing this terrible :facepalm

[jayfan]

Conley was destroying Portland. Such a shame what happened.





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[SugarHill]

Kyrie shot 44% not 42%
yeah, there might be some inaccuracies but they're relatively minor :(

[Artillery]

http://oi57.tinypic.com/nfqu7q.jpg

[Cone]

monta ellis. :applause: star

cant believe Lowry was that bad. crazy

[qrich]

CP fcking 3 nikkas:applause: :applause: :applause:
yall gotta realize Kawhi/Danny is by far the best perimeter defender tandem in the league. They will be in the alltime discussions if they stay together

Allen/Lee/Conley is definitely up there.

[Blue&Orange]

them advanced defensive schemes...

[Graviton]

So basically West guards shit all over East guards?