Why are people rioting in Baltimore

[ace23]

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[gts]

Short answer, because they're effing losers

[ace23]

Bmore ****** talk funny af

[macmac]

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Wire season 4. Them dudes all grown up now. Product of the system

[longtime lurker]

Why do people care more about property damage than the fact that police killed a man?

[ace23]

Wire season 4. Them dudes all grown up now. Product of the system
Damn ain't seen your wack ass in a minute. Appreciate the explanation, though. I need to check that show out.

[macmac]

Damn ain't seen your wack ass in a minute. Appreciate the explanation, though. I need to check that show out.

Got too old and too rich to make fun of kids with no talent.

[ace23]

Got too old and too rich to make fun of kids with no talent.
Lol but you back though

[macmac]

Lol but you back though

It's like riding through the hood in a Bentley

[DonD13]

i like the kind of protests where people start smashing windows and stealing TV's and shit

[Lensanity]

Because the pigs are out of control

[longtime lurker]

Because the pigs are out of control

Ban this idiot

[bdreason]

Because the nigs are out of control


That's racist.

[highwhey]

It's like riding through the hood in a Bentley
:oldlol:

[MavsSuperFan]

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The death of Freddie grey.

Cop and grey lock eyes for a few seconds. Grey takes off running cops arrest him. He dies in custody of a severed spine. Cops had no other reason to arrest him (at least they haven't provided one yet) then the fact that he started to run away.

I saw a video where he was dragged by 2 cops into a police van. His lower body was motionless. There was a lady screaming that he had broken legs. I suspect his spine was already severed at that time. Cops didn't believe him when he asked for medical attention. He wasn't taken to a hospital.

[dude77]

Cops didn't believe him when he asked for medical attention. He wasn't taken to a hospital.

this probably quite accurate .. cops tend to show this cold indifference once they've cuffed you .. you could be gasping for air and they'd wait 10 minutes to get you help .. but let me not generalize .. I'm just going off what I've seen

[KNOW1EDGE]

Because Police are starting to kill innocent people more often with no reprocussions.

Most people are not okay with police murdering people and getting away with it.

Peaceful protests don't change anything. Maybe physical force will? I don't really blame them.

If people in my community were killed by police and nothing was ever done I would probably fight back against the police too.

[DonD13]

btw how do you not know OP

shit even made the Euronews

and yes, that's the name of a tv channel

[Spaulding]

Because Police are starting to kill innocent people more often with no reprocussions.

Most people are not okay with police murdering people and getting away with it.

Peaceful protests don't change anything. Maybe physical force will? I don't really blame them.

If people in my community were killed by police and nothing was ever done I would probably fight back against the police too.

Violent protests wont solve anything. Sure lets burn down the city and put innocents in danger and out of work!

Only hurting themselves. Peaceful protests would work if people worked kust as hard to be together compared to the efforts they are giving to loot, burn and tear the city apart.

[Eric Cartman]

The best way to get the attention for a good cause is to start a massive riot.

Power to the people, no delay.

[Bigsmoke]

There are other ways to protest.

putting innocent people lives at risk doesn't always solve police brutality

[KNOW1EDGE]

We can either fight force with force or continue to be victims of police brutality. Along the way innocent business owners may be affected, but if the end results mean no more innocent people are murdered by police then I'm all for it.

Holding signs while standing in the curb is never going to get results.

[DonD13]

There are other ways to protest.

putting innocent people lives at risk doesn't always solve police brutality

yes, absolutely.

it defies the purpose. now they can be like, see, and we have to deal with those savages every day

[DonD13]

We can either fight force with force or continue to be victims of police brutality. Along the way innocent business owners may be affected, but if the end results mean no more innocent people are murdered by police then I'm all for it.

Holding signs while standing in the curb is never going to get results.

the end results of robbing stores and burning cars will not be less police brutality :oldlol:

[NumberSix]

We can either fight force with force or continue to be victims of police brutality. Along the way innocent business owners may be affected, but if the end results mean no more innocent people are murdered by police then I'm all for it.

Holding signs while standing in the curb is never going to get results.
Typical leftist "the ends justify the means" reasoning. If a few innocent people get destroyed on the way, oh well, right?

I'm of the opinion that the rights of 1 individual person is more important than society as a whole.

If the police violated this mans rights, then they need to be held responsible for it. As does every rioter that violated someone else's rights.

[Nick Young]

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[ace23]

The death of Freddie grey.

Cop and grey lock eyes for a few seconds. Grey takes off running cops arrest him. He dies in custody of a severed spine. Cops had no other reason to arrest him (at least they haven't provided one yet) then the fact that he started to run away.

I saw a video where he was dragged by 2 cops into a police van. His lower body was motionless. There was a lady screaming that he had broken legs. I suspect his spine was already severed at that time. Cops didn't believe him when he asked for medical attention. He wasn't taken to a hospital.
Wasn't that a couple weeks ago? Why ****** just start rioting?

[Nick Young]

Wasn't that a couple weeks ago? Why ****** just start rioting?
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[Bigsmoke]

Wasn't that a couple weeks ago? Why ****** just start rioting?

Yesterday was dudes funeral

[Nick Young]

Yesterday was dudes funeral
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[Bigsmoke]

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That's why running from the cops is a no no


Even if you're white
http://youtu.be/eR12vv33t2A

[aj1987]

Why do people care more about property damage than the fact that police killed a man?
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I hope the asshole who cut the supply line gets arrested for attempted murder.

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Brilliant. Cops "kill" one man, so lets not talk about hundreds of people suffering due to these ****wits.

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Yeah, black power!

[KNOW1EDGE]

I don't know what a "leftist" is.
and I'm not for looting or random acts of violence towards white people.

But I don't want to live in a police state where they are allowed to murder people and get away with it. The government seems to be okay with it, I'm not.

Something needs to be done, and you can't fight violence with picket signs and candle lit vigils.

[Nick Young]

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[aj1987]

I don't know what a "leftist" is.
and I'm not for looting or random acts of violence towards white people.

But I don't want to live in a police state where they are allowed to murder people and get away with it. The government seems to be okay with it, I'm not.

Something needs to be done, and you can't fight violence with picket signs and candle lit vigils.
Looting, setting buildings on fire, endangering the lives of firefighters, and attacking random white people helps?

[Nick Young]

Looting, setting buildings on fire, endangering the lives of firefighters, and attacking random white people helps?
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[9erempiree]

I am fuccking ashame of these idiots.

Give Americans a bad name.

Nitwits.

[NumberSix]

I don't know what a "leftist" is.
and I'm not for looting or random acts of violence towards white people.

But I don't want to live in a police state where they are allowed to murder people and get away with it. The government seems to be okay with it, I'm not.

Something needs to be done, and you can't fight violence with picket signs and candle lit vigils.
They aren't.

The problem is, your idea of a justified or unjustified killing depends not on the evidence or the actions of the people involved, but the race of the people involved.

It's interesting how you can have a handful of thugs and criminals who terrorize black communities, and nobody has a problem with it. But god forbid a cop shoots him while he's committing a crime or resisting arrest.

Now, someone will probably chime in with "what about the guy who got shot in the back?" As if it's sensible to compare an innocent man and a criminal. Of course, you'll have people who treat a criminal who gets shot in self defense and an innocent man getting shot in the back as being the same thing. Because their problem isn't with innocent people being shot. It's black people being shot whether they're innocent or guilty.

Is it because they care so deeply about black people? No. It's because they're obsessed with framing western society as racist and bad and unfair and evil for the purposes of their own political agenda.

[PleezeBelieve]

Who gets more angry about a firehouse cut open than police unexplainably arresting and killing a 25 year old American for doing nothing?

[aj1987]

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Who gets more angry about a firehouse cut open than police unexplainably arresting and killing a 25 year old American for doing nothing?
You do realize that it puts the firefighters lives in danger, when a ****ing retard decides to cut a supply line, right?

[NumberSix]

Who gets more angry about a firehouse cut open than police unexplainably arresting and killing a 25 year old American for doing nothing?
Why is it a competition?

If that's in fact what happened, that cops killed a person for doing nothing, then both those cops and the guys stabbing fire hoses are really bad people.

[PleezeBelieve]

How many innocent Muslims in the Middle East died at the expense of American retribution for 9/11?

Guess that was justified based on 'true' American principles. Meanwhile the Baltimore situation gives this country a bad name :roll:

Need anymore proof people think African-Americans are 2nd class citizens??

[9erempiree]

If they are going to riot, why not riot at the police station? There beef is with the police and yet, they are robbing and looting businesses. Black owned businesses too.

[Nick Young]

If they are going to riot, why not riot at the police station? There beef is with the police and yet, they are robbing and looting businesses. Black owned businesses too.
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[L.Kizzle]

To be fair, 90% of those rioters were high school students. They're just trying to get attention.Where the fck are their parents?

[9erempiree]

To be fair, 90% of those rioters were high school students. They're just trying to get attention.Where the fck are their parents?

Which makes the situation that much worse.

[ArbitraryWater]

It's like riding through the hood in a Bentley

:oldlol:

you & J$ = GOATs.

[L.Kizzle]

Which makes the situation that much worse.
The city has been going to hell for some time. No help no funding no schools. They just needed a reason
I cant imagine what would happen in a place like Detroit.

[9erempiree]

The city has been going to hell for some time. No help no funding no schools. They just needed a reason
I cant imagine what would happen in a place like Detroit.

I can't imagine the citizens of Detroit would further damage their city.

[L.Kizzle]

I can't imagine the citizens of Detroit would further damage their city.
Shit let a cop kill a brother in Detroit. Motown amd 8mile all going up in smoke.

[christian1923]

Whats this got to do with Bruce Jenner?

[rufuspaul]

I'm so glad we elected Obama and solved the race issue once and for all.

[KevinNYC]

There are other ways to protest.

putting innocent people lives at risk doesn't always solve police brutality
Always? When does it ever?

[HitandRun Reggie]

To put things into perspective, about 100 unarmed blacks a year are killed by police while 7500+ are killed by other black people. I'm laughing at the morons in this thread who say these riots are some sort of justice for the death of black man. The rioters nor the protestors really give a sh!t about the death of another black man. They just want an excuse to b!tch and moan, steal for greed, or just cause mayhem because they are inherently sadistic.

But no, they "keeping it real". Like Chris Rock said says, "******* love to keep it real alright....... reeeeeeaaaaaaallll dumb".

[ThickassGlasses]

And people wonder why stereotypes still exist.


This is just disgusting :facepalm

[MavsSuperFan]

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I hope the asshole who cut the supply line gets arrested for attempted murder.

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Brilliant. Cops "kill" one man, so lets not talk about hundreds of people suffering due to these ****wits.

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Yeah, black power!
The sad part is these guys are going to make it easier for the cops to change nothing, with these actions. If I am a cop I am thankful these guys decided to change public opinion.

[longhornfan1234]

All of these riots on Obama's watch. :facepalm

[Nick Young]

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[MavsSuperFan]

I don't know what a "leftist" is.
and I'm not for looting or random acts of violence towards white people.

But I don't want to live in a police state where they are allowed to murder people and get away with it. The government seems to be okay with it, I'm not.

Something needs to be done, and you can't fight violence with picket signs and candle lit vigils.
I would disagree with your assertion that is an accurate description of america.

In cases where cops should be charged with the death of a black person or any other person they are. Eg. Akai Gurley shooting

US laws allow cops to use lethal force to protect themselves. If someone presents a threat to cops that could permanently injure them or others, or even if it was reasonable to believe that threat existed, cops have the right to use lethal force to end that threat or perceived threat.

There was that white guy shot outside a convenience store. The police body cam showed the white guy taunting the cops and his arms made an upward motion form his hips. The cop shot him and killed him. no charges were filed. The majority of police shootings that kill people in america kill white people. Reasonable uses of lethal force like this one do not result in prosecutions.

[L.Kizzle]

All of these riots on Obama's watch. :facepalm
That was the plan all along. Conspiracy. Kill these unarmed black men and they will tear up their cities. Than they can say "Hey Obama, what about those riots?"

[Nick Young]

https://twitter.com/ACFromDaBranch/status/592839101574946817
In the darkest times, a hero will rise.

[DonDadda59]

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In most riots people steal flat screen TVs and beer. Looks like rioters in B'more are more practical. You can never have enough paper towels. #ScottUltraAbsorbant

[Rake2204]

Understandably powerful: https://twitter.com/Kamariawi/status/592888418260094977

Much more strangely powerful: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UG4bm1Iu2GU

[embersyc]

Peaceful protests don't change anything.

Hello, Rosa Parks, MLK and Ghandhi are proof of otherwise.

It's far easier to gain mass sympathy for your cause through nonviolence than through looting and assaulting random people.

[DonDadda59]

Yeah burning down your own neighborhood only ensures that your quality of life will be much much worse than it was just a few days ago. No one is going to be in a rush to rebuild or invest in the infrastructure of the affected communities. Businesses will relocate. In 20 years, that area will look like Detroit redux.

So get all the Scott paper towels your hearts desire now. Gonna have to go several miles out of the way from now on to get your hands on that ultra absorbant good shit.

[HitandRun Reggie]

Hello, Rosa Parks, MLK and Ghandhi are proof of otherwise.

It's far easier to gain mass sympathy for your cause through nonviolence than through looting and assaulting random people.

Especially when the authorities are attacking the protesters, not the other way around.

[L.Kizzle]

Yeah burning down your own neighborhood only ensures that your quality of life will be much much worse than it was just a few days ago. No one is going to be in a rush to rebuild or invest in the infrastructure of the affected communities. Businesses will relocate. In 20 years, that area will look like Detroit redux.

So get all the Scott paper towels your hearts desire now. Gonna have to go several miles out of the way from now on to get your hands on that ultra absorbant good shit.
B'More has been a hell hole for years. No help, closing down schools, no funding, closing down projects, ect. Them people was just tired of it all and said fck it.

[RidonKs]

:(

if you believe this is strictly about rioters running wild and looting, you're shortsighted. if you believe this is strictly about protesters showing support for freddie grey, you're naive. neither of these views are appropriate right now.

there is a bottom line here that everybody, regardless of colour creed class orientation politics etc, should recognize full stop. only once that bottom line is understood and met is it appropriate to begin an assessment of motive and an evaluation of grievance.

david simon (creator of the wire) captures it well enough so i will quote him

[QUOTE]First things first.

Yes, there is a lot to be argued, debated, addressed. And this moment, as inevitable as it has sometimes seemed, can still, in the end, prove transformational, if not redemptive for our city. Changes are necessary and voices need to be heard. All of that is true and all of that is still possible, despite what is now loose in the streets.

But now

[DonDadda59]

B'More has been a hell hole for years. No help, closing down schools, no funding, closing down projects, ect. Them people was just tired of it all and said fck it.

Not saying the people there don't have real grievances. If there was real leadership there, they would've gotten organized and shut the city down. Block access to all city/federal buildings (courts, city council, police station) and maybe even major roads like they did in Ferguson before shit hit the wall. Force real change to happen, don't let up until you see results.

But burning down the local CVS is just as effective, right?

[aj1987]

B'More has been a hell hole for years. No help, closing down schools, no funding, closing down projects, ect. Them people was just tired of it all and said fck it.
They all said **** it and made it worse for themselves?

[L.Kizzle]

Not saying the people there don't have real grievances. If there was real leadership there, they would've gotten organized and shut the city down. Block access to all city/federal buildings (courts, city council, police station) and maybe even major roads like they did in Ferguson before shit hit the wall. Force real change to happen, don't let up until you see results.

But burning down the local CVS is just as effective, right?
Most.of them were 16 just trying to be worldstar famous. Apparently there were peaceful protest the past week until yesterday.

If they was living good in that area, they'd be in the house watching the playoffs.

[RidonKs]

Not saying the people there don't have real grievances. If there was real leadership there, they would've gotten organized and shut the city down. Block access to all city/federal buildings (courts, city council, police station) and maybe even major roads like they did in Ferguson before shit hit the wall. Force real change to happen, don't let up until you see results.

But burning down the local CVS is just as effective, right?
in this day and age, it is organization that tends toward good leadership; it is not good leadership that imposes organization. people aren't humble enough for that. your post has these two things backwards. though i admit its wildly complex and can't be summed up by the kind of platitude i just offered..

and still inappropriate right this minute imho, though thats for you to judge

[brandonislegend]

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This guy has to be the biggest dumbass on the planet.

[HitandRun Reggie]

B'More has been a hell hole for years. No help, closing down schools, no funding, closing down projects, ect. Them people was just tired of it all and said fck it.

Nobody wants to invest in infrastructure when people have turned the city into a crime ridden, dangerous area. It's not so much the system, as it is the people. Every ethnic group has lived in the ghetto at one point or another but picked themselves up and changed their communities. The Irish, Italians, Polish, Cubans, some Mexicans, Chinese, SE Asians, southern white trash, etc. The people need to have the will to change first before any impactful change will happen. When communities have surrounded themselves with leaders who just blame others for their failures, because it's easier and more convenient for their people to hear, they are going to just spin their wheels forever and never gain traction.

[DonDadda59]

in this day and age, it is organization that tends toward good leadership; it is not good leadership that imposes organization.

It's like a chicken and egg situation. Doesn't seem like either organization or leadership exists in that cesspool. Just seems like a feral mass burning and grabbing anything in sight. There's no defined goals or any sort of road map.

[longtime lurker]

Yeah burning down your own neighborhood only ensures that your quality of life will be much much worse than it was just a few days ago. No one is going to be in a rush to rebuild or invest in the infrastructure of the affected communities. Businesses will relocate. In 20 years, that area will look like Detroit redux.

So get all the Scott paper towels your hearts desire now. Gonna have to go several miles out of the way from now on to get your hands on that ultra absorbant good shit.

Let's be honest. The media has managed to successfully turn the narrative to the small number of looters and rioters like they always do. Instead of the focus on the police killing a man and the cover up after, somehow the focus is on the idiots. Well done America

[L.Kizzle]

Nobody wants to invest in infrastructure when people have turned the city into a crime ridden, dangerous area. It's not so much the system, as it is the people. Every ethnic group has lived in the ghetto at one point or another but picked themselves up and changed their communities. The Irish, Italians, Polish, Cubans, some Mexicans, Chinese, SE Asians, southern white trash, etc. The people need to have the will to change first before any impactful change will happen. When communities have surrounded themselves with leaders who just blame others for their failures, because it's easier and more convenient for their people to hear, they are going to just spin their wheels forever and never gain traction.
Help your fellow man. Or leave them helpless to defend for themselves?

If you build it up and they have the audacity to tear it right back down, than move on. Give them a chance.

America would rather help outside countries than their own cities.

[DonDadda59]

Let's be honest. The media has managed to successfully turn the narrative to the small number of looters and rioters like they always do. Instead of the focus on the police killing a man and the cover up after, somehow the focus is on the idiots. Well done America

Yeah, the media is as much to blame for some of these situations getting out of control as anyone. I'm sure nothing makes the heads of CNN happier than seeing a CVS on fire or people looting liquor stores. Still doesn't change the fact that people are running around burning their own already economically depressed communities to the ground. Whether they're a 'small number' or not, they are still destroying their own neighborhoods and not helping anyone or anything. Can't just gloss over that.

[longtime lurker]

in this day and age, it is organization that tends toward good leadership; it is not good leadership that imposes organization. people aren't humble enough for that. your post has these two things backwards. though i admit its wildly complex and can't be summed up by the kind of platitude i just offered..

and still inappropriate right this minute imho, though thats for you to judge

Good point about leadership and organization at these protests that get out of hand. I wonder how much the organizers working with the city factors into this

[Riley Martin]

I haven't really followed the case that sparked this. Is there an official story for what happened?

A severed spine seems way beyond excessive force. How does that happen?

[Hamtaro CP3KDKG]

b/c we REAL nikkas outchyea
the pigs will get whats comin to em believe dat

[RidonKs]

It's like a chicken and egg situation. Doesn't seem like either organization or leadership exists in that cesspool. Just seems like a feral mass burning and grabbing anything in sight. There's no defined goals or any sort of road map.
you're right. i guess i just thought the egg deserved more attention since your post seemed to primarily focus on the chicken. or was it the other way around...?


Good point about leadership and organization at these protests that get out of hand. I wonder how much the organizers working with the city factors into this
if you mean organizers who work FOR the city, i'm sure they have a very specific mandate that falls far short of dealing with situations such as this. so probably not much of a factor, since bureaucrats don't typically feel personally responsible for the effects of the systems in which they work.



somebody earlier highlighted the nature of the protests a week ago, which were said to be nonviolent and demonstrative. it would be a worthwhile task for some ishiot to look into and share with the rest of us the documented narrative of that time span.

obviously if this was strictly a case of idiotic opportunistic looting, taking advantage of a crisis to do and take what you want, the ongoing chaos would have initiated immediately after the police brutality story broke.

was that the case? :confusedshrug:

[aj1987]

b/c we REAL nikkas outchyea
the pigs will get whats comin to em believe dat
:facepalm

You're one of those dumbasses, aren't you? What are you gonna get by destroying your own town's property? You do know that YOUR money is going to be used to repair and rebuild everything, right? :facepalm


Let's be honest. The media has managed to successfully turn the narrative to the small number of looters and rioters like they always do. Instead of the focus on the police killing a man and the cover up after, somehow the focus is on the idiots. Well done America
The media people are idiots, but lets not pretend that the riots aren't a big deal. This shit is effecting and will effect hundreds, if not thousands of people. It's the idiots who turned the narrative from the "murder" to this.

[ItsMillerTime]

I haven't really followed the case that sparked this. Is there an official story for what happened?

A severed spine seems way beyond excessive force. How does that happen?

http://www.cnn.com/2015/04/24/us/baltimore-freddie-gray-death/ has a decent write-up of what happened.


Gray, who was stopped April 12 after a foot pursuit through several housing complexes, should have received medical attention at the scene of his arrest, said Deputy Police Commissioner Kevin Davis. A witness said the man was yelling and indicated he was having difficulty breathing.

Batts told reporters in an afternoon news conference: "We know our police employees failed to get him medical attention in a timely manner multiple times."

Investigators are trying to learn more about Gray's condition at each of the three stops the van made on its way to a police station.

At the first stop, Gray was placed in leg irons. The driver stopped a second time "to deal with Mr. Gray and the facts of that interaction are under investigation," Davis said. The van stopped one more time to add a second prisoner.

Batts told reporters that at the third stop an officer saw Gray on the floor of the van, asking for a medic. The officer and the van driver picked him up and put him on the seat, the commissioner said.

When the van arrived at the Western District station, police called for an ambulance, said Davis, who is in charge of the investigation.

So he got the shit beat out of him and died from the resulting injuries.

[NumberSix]

Let's be honest. The media has managed to successfully turn the narrative to the small number of looters and rioters like they always do. Instead of the focus on the police killing a man and the cover up after, somehow the focus is on the idiots. Well done America
What exactly were they "protesting" in the first place? It's being investigated, isn't it? Or do they think we should just skip that and have immediate public executions?

[jaybee682]

I don't understand the rioting myself. If you want justice, the thing that gets people attention the most is money. You mess up peoples money then they will listen to you. All these people are doing is burning down their own communities. After all that is done they are only left with another feel good slogan "hands up, don't shoot" "black lives matter" and burned out buildings.

[DCL]

I blame OJ Simpson for turning news into sensationalized trash

[NumberSix]

I blame OJ Simpson for turning news into sensationalized trash
Am I the only person that thinks OJ was actually innocent?

[SourSamCassell]

Am I the only person that thinks OJ was actually innocent?
Why do you think that?

[Nanners]

The looters/rioters dont give a shit about freddy gray.

[NumberSix]

Why do you think that?
I just don't think the evidence adds up to him being involved. A lot of the evidence is also very sketchy and appears to be obviously planted.

[jaybee682]

The looters/rioters dont give a shit about freddy gray, they are just opportunistic thugs taking advantage of a chance to get some free shit.

EXACTLY!!!!

[Nanners]

Still brings more attention to this though. Pros and cons to civil unrest.

thats true. there were several large peaceful protests in baltimore last week, but nobody payed any attention until people started destroying shit.

that said im pretty sure that the peaceful protesters and the violent rioters are two entirely seperate groups of people.

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

Because they're ghetto and ignorant? Nobody that's educated will condone rioting/applaud these fools.

[Doranku]

I'm sure Freddie Gray would be very proud that his fellow brothas are looting paper towels and candy in honor of his untimely death. :applause:

[Timmy D for MVP]

The looters/rioters dont give a shit about freddy gray, they are just opportunistic thugs taking advantage of a chance to get some free shit.

Agreed. I think riots may start with an anger caused by some event, but then they grow into something else that's just select people in chaos. That's actually what characterizes them.

It's a shame that things like this get tied to things like the case that sparked the riots. It moves the focus off the issue that started it all and onto the riots themselves.

[Lensanity]

USA is ****ed. Inner city blacks are as bad as they have ever been and are only getting worse. They steal, don't care about education, and have no shame in being thug pieces of shit. The number of good black people from inner cities that become productive members of society is declining.

USA police are the worst ever. Not just for america, but the entire world has never seen a police state like this. Pigs are power hungry douchebags and racists.

Combine the problem with inner city blacks and cops and you have a country that is completely going to shit.

[DonD13]

I'm sure Freddie Gray would be very proud that his fellow brothas are looting paper towels and candy in honor of his untimely death. :applause:

yeah always find that funny/weird

shit is going on for a while now, like protests in France, England and so on always end up with people stealing basic shit like toilet paper and cereals

also, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9TB52h6c2Ts

[KevinNYC]

http://share.gifyoutube.com/y5VAW7.gif

[Lensanity]

Blue lives don't matter

[BurningHammer]

http://share.gifyoutube.com/y5VAW7.gif
We need hundreds of these kind of mother. :applause:

[9erempiree]

We need hundreds of these kind of mother. :applause:

Sadly it is the mother doing what an absent father should be doing.

[kNIOKAS]

We need hundreds of these kind of mother. :applause:
So they raise more kids that would attend more riots?:hammerhead:

[MavsSuperFan]

:(

if you believe this is strictly about rioters running wild and looting, you're shortsighted. if you believe this is strictly about protesters showing support for freddie grey, you're naive. neither of these views are appropriate right now.

there is a bottom line here that everybody, regardless of colour creed class orientation politics etc, should recognize full stop. only once that bottom line is understood and met is it appropriate to begin an assessment of motive and an evaluation of grievance.

david simon (creator of the wire) captures it well enough so i will quote him



the fact that mavssuperfan is trying to adjudicate the bare bone facts of a police brutality case and numbersix is trying to derail with an academic discussion of individual v collective rights only demonstrates their disconnect from what is actually happening in inner city america.

Realistically nothing much will change in the economic conditions of poor communities.
Business interests and the rich control the direction of American policy. These riots like the Rodney king riots will just give the cops more power to protect the economic heart of American cities.

Hopefully if it is as it appears and the cops killed grey via gross negligence, those responsible be charged with manslaughter. If it is proven they some how intentionally severed his spine with no justification than it should be murder.

Criminal sentencing is an important part of justice IMO, thus why the most critical part is trying to ascertain the facts as best as possible IMO.

[MavsSuperFan]

Not saying the people there don't have real grievances. If there was real leadership there, they would've gotten organized and shut the city down. Block access to all city/federal buildings (courts, city council, police station) and maybe even major roads like they did in Ferguson before shit hit the wall. Force real change to happen, don't let up until you see results.

But burning down the local CVS is just as effective, right?
At the end of the day America is a democracy. Citizens choose their own municipal government. If your government sucks that is partially your fault in countries where you select your government.

[Nanners]

So they raise more kids that would attend more riots?:hammerhead:

yep, any mother who has to hit their child to get them to stop rioting is a ****ing failure parent.

[BurningHammer]

So they raise more kids that would attend more riots?:hammerhead:
Idiot kids are generic. Mothers who actually take actions when they act like idiots they are are not.

[MavsSuperFan]

yep, any mother who has to hit their child to get them to stop rioting is a ****ing failure parent.
To be fair to her parents aren't the biggest influence on most kids.

[BurningHammer]

To be fair to her parents aren't the biggest influence on most kids.
This.

It used to be TV. Now, Internet.

[RidonKs]

Business interests and the rich control the direction of American policy.

At the end of the day America is a democracy.
:facepalm

you wrote these two sentences three minutes apart. they are flagrantly contradictory. i'll leave you to try to figure out why.

though i expect rather than grappling with the contradiction, you will try to reconcile your way out of it by negotiating what you meant by the words "control" or "control" or "democracy". that will be weaseling bullsh*t.


Hopefully if it is as it appears and the cops killed grey via gross negligence, those responsible be charged with manslaughter. If it is proven they some how intentionally severed his spine with no justification than it should be murder.

Criminal sentencing is an important part of justice IMO, thus why the most critical part is trying to ascertain the facts as best as possible IMO.
you missed my point which was that you're missing the forest for the trees. i am not arguing that criminal sentencing is an unimportant part of justice, though i am glad you share that opinion, along with some 99% of the world population.

[MavsSuperFan]

:facepalm

you wrote these two sentences three minutes apart. they are flagrantly contradictory. i'll leave you to try to figure out why.

though i expect rather than grappling with the contradiction, you will try to reconcile your way out of it by negotiating what you meant by the words "control" or "control" or "democracy". that will be weaseling bullsh*t.


you missed my point which was that you're missing the forest for the trees. i am not arguing that criminal sentencing is an unimportant part of justice, though i am glad you share that opinion, along with some 99% of the world population.

Many things at the municipal level do not concern the rich all that much, especially in areas they do not live in. People do have the ability to make improvements in their governance by electing better leadership and getting involved in their communities. Eg. Elect a mayor that forces the police to change their policies, like debalsio forced the nypd to stop stop and frisk.

Obviously they won't be able to get huge amounts of federal funding is what I meant.

Please enlighten me to your point and how I am missing the Forrest

[NumberSix]

:facepalm

you wrote these two sentences three minutes apart. they are flagrantly contradictory. i'll leave you to try to figure out why.
What makes you think that rich citizens wielding their political power isn't democracy? :confusedshrug:

[ROCSteady]

Bmore ****** talk funny af


They sound retarded just like H-Town niccas

[Lensanity]

America is not a Democracy anymore. The people have no real people. We can elect whoever we want but no matter who we will elect they are just paid off by lobbyists to support their agenda. This is the exact reason why marijuana is still illegal.

[RidonKs]

What makes you think that rich citizens wielding their political power isn't democracy? :confusedshrug:
because rich citizens wielding more power than poor citizens is aristocracy or plutocracy, which is by definition inconsistent with democracy.

[Akrazotile]

because rich citizens wielding more power than poor citizens is aristocracy or plutocracy, which is by definition inconsistent with democracy.


Poor and middle class people either dont vote or they vote based on what the TV tells them is important.

It's easy as fvck for the rich to control the agenda, bc most people dont think for themselves. You can flat out hand them all a vote, and they'll look at you confused and rely on you to tell them what issues matter. That's where the media comes in.

[RidonKs]

Poor and middle class people either dont vote or they vote based on what the TV tells them is important.

It's easy as fvck for the rich to control the agenda, bc most people dont think for themselves. You can flat out hand them all a vote, and they'll look at you confused and rely on you to tell them what issues matter. That's where the media comes in.
democracy does not start and end with voting.

democracy has been enhanced significantly since universal franchise.

democracy can be undermined by many factors, but none of them necessarily.

edit: that last sentence is wrong so maybe you can think up a factor that necessarily undermines democracy. now that i reconsider i'm sure one exists, at least to some minimal extent. i set myself up for failure with that statement.

[MavsSuperFan]

Poor and middle class people either dont vote or they vote based on what the TV tells them is important.

It's easy as fvck for the rich to control the agenda, bc most people dont think for themselves. You can flat out hand them all a vote, and they'll look at you confused and rely on you to tell them what issues matter. That's where the media comes in.
It has more to do with:
1. Campaign contributions

Eric Cantor spent $168k of campaign contributions at steak houses

The Cantor campaign's expenditures, as recorded by the Center for Responsive Politics, show it spent $168,637 at Bobby Van's and BLT Steak as of May 21.

http://www.businessinsider.com/eric-cantor-loss-steakhouse-spending-2014-6
Also it helps them swamp the airwaves and win the election

2. The potential for future employment or employment of a close relative.

Many congressmen go work for the industries they carried water for while a House rep or a senator.

Eg. Former Senator Evan Bayh’s wife hauls in millions serving on corporate boards of companies including “nation’s largest health insurance company


As the debate over health-care reform intensifies, Bayh’s wife is receiving lucrative payouts from some of the companies that could be most affected by that legislation.
Bayh contends the $2.1 million that his wife, Susan, earned from public health-care companies from 2006 to 2008 represents no conflict of interest. Questions persist, however, for at least two reasons. First, Evan Bayh has been unclear about his positions on many issues related to health-care reform. Second, there’s the timing of Susan Bayh’s rapid rise into corporate governance.
http://americablog.com/2009/07/evan-bayhs-wife-hauls-in-millions-serving-on-corporate-boards-of-companies-including-nations-largest-health-insurance-company.html

Most senators go the more direct route of working as a lobbyist or sitting on a board of directors to get their payoff, after carrying water for their specific industry.

I suspect Obama's daughters will have no trouble finding employment in the health insurance industry because of the mandates to buy health insurance.

[NumberSix]

because rich citizens wielding more power than poor citizens is aristocracy or plutocracy, which is by definition inconsistent with democracy.
So, if a person believes that a particular candidate would be a good leader, they shouldn't be able to use their money to spread the word that they believe in that candidate? Is that not the very definition of free speech?

[Dresta]

Ridonks is clueless. The democracy he seems to want is mob-rule: a strong centralised federal government, driven by the spiteful resentment of the masses. Nothing could be more opposed to the founding principles of this nation than that. If he'd ever read the Federalist papers then he'd know how the type of government he wants is exactly what the founders most feared.

What is this fundamental inability of people to recognise that a government can only ever be run, controlled and managed by small elites, and that is the very reason why we don't grant it the power to act arbitrarily? No matter what form of government you have, elites will always form - do you know why? Because human beings aren't anything close to being 'equal' and it is in their very natures to compete for the distinction of not being mediocre or average (your concern about equality is a manifestation of this - the humaneness of your ideals is what gives you the distinction you crave). You cannot have 'democracy' of any real sort with a vast and centralised Federal superstate - how can this have any accountability whatsoever? Devolution is the only thing that could save democracy, because localism is the essence of democracy: local people having a say in their local affairs; not people like Ridonks fitting a one-size-fits all model of how everyone ought to live onto the entire nation from above - that is the definition of the elitism he pretends to dislike.

Do you know that the word 'good' used only to apply to the noble, the powerful, courageous and healthy? And that it was only with Christianity that equality became a dogmatism and something to be aimed for? Are you a Christian then? Because your morality is unquestionably Christian.

[aj1987]

:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

Props to these people.

http://i.imgur.com/uP7kOfW.png
http://i.imgur.com/WkyhN7A.png
http://i.imgur.com/Idi1f3R.png
http://i.imgur.com/HkVJX4Q.png
http://i.imgur.com/meO8lIr.png
http://i.imgur.com/EG2w6Jq.png

Source: http://imgur.com/gallery/xBCEO

[aj1987]

http://i.imgur.com/rCRKICU.gif

This guy has to be the biggest dumbass on the planet.


http://i.imgur.com/nZSNLaf.png


http://i.imgur.com/MDSOqf5.jpg

[BigNBAfan]

Hah... there goes his career.

[Velocirap31]

Hah... there goes his career.

Highly unlikely he, or any of them, has a career.

[HitandRun Reggie]

Uh oh. Leaked reports by police that they were ordered by the mayor of Baltimore to stand down on Monday when the violence was ramping up. She is denying this, but if it's found to be true, she needs to go

[Derka]

Everything about this just sucks.

Glad to see some of these positive images getting out. I know the national media doesn't care about those images because inciting racial tensions is good for their business and the business of their masters...but I'm glad someone is showing Baltimore residents who care about their community enough to put themselves in harm's way.

[BurningHammer]

Few bad apples..... :ohwell:

[Fudge]

Black lives matter!!!

Justice for Freddie Gray! The fallen brother.

[Joyner82reload]

When people start looting/burning/injuring police officers, they deserve to be gunned down in cold blood.

[gts]

Uh oh. Leaked reports by police that they were ordered by the mayor of Baltimore to stand down on Monday when the violence was ramping up. She is denying this, but if it's found to be true, she needs to go

Ferguson Mayor ramps up he's got to go, Baltimore Mayor ramps down she's got to go

[MavsSuperFan]

Ferguson Mayor ramps up he's got to go, Baltimore Mayor ramps down she's got to go
its a tough position she was in. Any decision she made would have been the wrong decision. As the mayor you are hoping the governor steps in and takes the decision out of your hands in situations like this.

Politically speaking her base is the african american population so she made the least damaging decision to her political future by making the cops stand down.

[NumberSix]

its a tough position she was in. Any decision she made would have been the wrong decision. As the mayor you are hoping the governor steps in and takes the decision out of your hands in situations like this.

Politically speaking her base is the african american population so she made the least damaging decision to her political future by making the cops stand down.
So you think the black community is in favour of letting a small group of thugs run wild and destroy their neighbourhoods? Wouldn't blacks be the least in favour of that as they are the ones who it harms?

[MavsSuperFan]

So you think the black community is in favour of letting a small group of thugs run wild and destroy their neighbourhoods? Wouldn't blacks be the least in favour of that as they are the ones who it harms?
Would have been worse for them to see people in their communities get hurt by the cops.

There was no right decision.
1. tell cops to stand down, roll the dice and hope what happened didnt happen.
2. Crush the looters + rioters + peaceful protesters.

Either way she was going to be hurt politically.
I think she minimized the political damage to her career by choosing to tell the cops to stand down. If I was her political adviser and i put her future career above other concerns it is what I would have advised her to do.

[HitandRun Reggie]

Blacks fighting each other right now in the street minutes before the curfew. Red vs blue. Not sure if one side are peacekeepers or not.

[9erempiree]

I'm really thinking about a road trip to Baltimore, it's only a 2 hr 30 min drive from where I am.

I wanna see this up close, probably raid a business here and there. Looting is so much fun. As a kid we used to snatch and run from stores just because we either wanted something for our personal amusement or just did for the hell of it. If you know you won't get caught then you take that chance.

Are you black?

[L.Kizzle]

I'm really thinking about a road trip to Baltimore, it's only a 2 hr 30 min drive from where I am.

I wanna see this up close, probably raid a business here and there. Looting is so much fun. As a kid we used to snatch and run from stores just because we either wanted something for our personal amusement or just did for the hell of it. If you know you won't get caught then you take that chance.
They're not looting anymore.

[HitandRun Reggie]

What's Doc Rivers doing in the middle of this mess trying to calm people down?

[RidonKs]

Ridonks is clueless. The democracy he seems to want is mob-rule: a strong centralised federal government, driven by the spiteful resentment of the masses. Nothing could be more opposed to the founding principles of this nation than that. If he'd ever read the Federalist papers then he'd know how the type of government he wants is exactly what the founders most feared.

What is this fundamental inability of people to recognise that a government can only ever be run, controlled and managed by small elites, and that is the very reason why we don't grant it the power to act arbitrarily? No matter what form of government you have, elites will always form - do you know why? Because human beings aren't anything close to being 'equal' and it is in their very natures to compete for the distinction of not being mediocre or average (your concern about equality is a manifestation of this - the humaneness of your ideals is what gives you the distinction you crave). You cannot have 'democracy' of any real sort with a vast and centralised Federal superstate - how can this have any accountability whatsoever? Devolution is the only thing that could save democracy, because localism is the essence of democracy: local people having a say in their local affairs; not people like Ridonks fitting a one-size-fits all model of how everyone ought to live onto the entire nation from above - that is the definition of the elitism he pretends to dislike.

Do you know that the word 'good' used only to apply to the noble, the powerful, courageous and healthy? And that it was only with Christianity that equality became a dogmatism and something to be aimed for? Are you a Christian then? Because your morality is unquestionably Christian.
there is an intrinsic human will for distinction. no individual can be satisfied with an identity that is strictly common.

but given the truth of your own statement, that "humans aren't anything close to being equal", it stands to reason that there are an infinite number of ways to satisfy that desire for distinction. we are all idiosyncratic and deep down we know it. the simplest way we satisfy our craving to be held as singular and unique is to cozy up with somebody who will tell us just that.

when the lover whispers "i love you", she is not taken to mean "i love humans and you are human so i love you". her statement is taken to imply a personal identification of distinction. that is why life without love is lost in the wind. it is life without distinction.

now i'm sure you consider what i described above just a bunch of silly wishy washy whimsical nonsense. that is because you use the word distinction when you really mean something else. it is not my desire for distinction that underlies the "humaneness of my ideals". you would argue that my "christian morality", a characterization i do not find much insulting by the way, is an disingenuous and self-serving construct. serving... what? why my own power of course! by grafting on this moral disposition, i understand that i will garner admiration and respect from my peers, feelings which naturally flow into political dynamics of power and control. i am not satisfying any will for distinction. rather i am consolidating my power out of fear and insecurity.

this is your ideological outlook. that entire line of thinking is your graft. you know it so well because it runs through your bones. the irony is that your mistake is the same as you accuse everyone else of making. you're imposing that ideology on others for the sake of ad hominem attack to undermine opinions you do not like.

human beings are not "equal", with respect to character. they are equal, with respect to power; but that is only the case absent systems constructed and maintained by the powerful, against the better interests of everybody else. this is what democratic institutions are intended to combat.

is decentralized modes of governance more democratic? potentially but not necessarily. certainly they are not under current circumstances. a strong centralized government is not my final objective because i'm a self-loathing elitist who resents success and craves the admiration of crude unenlightened morons. it is a means to a more substantive democracy.

the reason for that is obvious; without it we would be fked. provincial and municipal governments simply are not powerful enough to combat the anti-democratic forces presently constituted, namely vast amounts of foreign capital controlled by investors whose interests directly conflict with the great masses of human beings who depend on that capital for their livelihood. a central government in a rich country can somewhat withstand the pressure put on it by a massive multinational corporation. weaker forms of government, no matter how democratic, cannot. this is why devolution, under the pretense of democracy, is such a driving issue for politicians who are clearly in the pocket of big business.

[PistonsFan#21]

Are you black?

you dont need to be black to loot. It became a multicultural thing in Baltimore and everyone is welcome

http://i.imgur.com/lSz31VD.jpg

[9erempiree]

you dont need to be black to loot. It became a multicultural thing in Baltimore and everyone is welcome

http://i.imgur.com/lSz31VD.jpg

nah...that's typical beer run.

[Velocirap31]

nah...that's typical beer run.

:lol

[Godzuki]

Uh oh. Leaked reports by police that they were ordered by the mayor of Baltimore to stand down on Monday when the violence was ramping up. She is denying this, but if it's found to be true, she needs to go


i actually like her as a mayor. i liked juan dixon's sister too tho.

its not so much her fault than Ferguson and the way Obama/Holder handled it. It made every police have to put on kid gloves, and the politicians having to give in to rioters, or face black america backlash along with the wrath of the federal government.

don't forget Obama/Holder made the Ferguson police dept stand there and smile while watching the looters/rioters burn down business's and wreck the city right in front of them. they did exactly what Obama/Holder ordered in Ferguson.

[HitandRun Reggie]

Apparently the medical examiner is going to release details of the autopsy, where the spinal injury matches some kind of bolt or piece of metal inside the van. So we at least know that his death was caused inside of the van, and what he struck to cause the fatal injury.


http://www.wjla.com/articles/2015/04/breaking-news-no-evidence-found-that-freddie-gray-s-death-was-result-of-police-who-arrested-him-prob.html

[ROCSteady]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_kHSXzLPw4


Bmore Riot Compliation

[bluechox2]

unemployed..got nothing better to do

[ace23]

The death of Freddie grey.

Cop and grey lock eyes for a few seconds. Grey takes off running cops arrest him. He dies in custody of a severed spine. Cops had no other reason to arrest him (at least they haven't provided one yet) then the fact that he started to run away.

I saw a video where he was dragged by 2 cops into a police van. His lower body was motionless. There was a lady screaming that he had broken legs. I suspect his spine was already severed at that time. Cops didn't believe him when he asked for medical attention. He wasn't taken to a hospital.


Wasn't that a couple weeks ago? Why ****** just start rioting?
Lol I originally just skimmed through what you said and am just realizing that I had this shit confused with that other ***** that got shot by police in South Carolina or some shit. Had no idea about the Freddie Gray incident until today. Looking for a video right now.

[Draz]

These ****ing cops. Shit is disgusting. Pisses me off every time I think about it. I honestly was the type to say fck it he's a thug or deserved it. But I grew out of that stage. More people need to grow out of that stage too. Gotta realize people do arrogant or desperate shit for a living. Doesn't mean they have to die for it. There's a system for that.

[gts]

I'm really thinking about a road trip to Baltimore, it's only a 2 hr 30 min drive from where I am.

I wanna see this up close, probably raid a business here and there. Looting is so much fun. As a kid we used to snatch and run from stores just because we either wanted something for our personal amusement or just did for the hell of it. If you know you won't get caught then you take that chance.

You should... When you get there ask for the Baltimore PD transportation program to get around the city, ask for Freddie Gray special

[Draz]

You should... When you get there ask for the Baltimore PD transportation program to get around the city, ask for Freddie Gray special
:roll:

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

You should... When you get there ask for the Baltimore PD transportation program to get around the city, ask for Freddie Gray special
Too soon man.. too soon lol

[Akrazotile]

Too soon man.. too soon lol


Nah it was ok, i lol'd

[ROCSteady]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n_kHSXzLPw4

check this shit out..

[HitandRun Reggie]

Well I hope the community of Baltimore is happy. Police presence and arrests are way down. :applause:

BTW 9 murdered and 30 people shot, this Memorial Day weekend....


http://baltimore.cbslocal.com/2015/05/25/baltimore-bloodshed-continues-28-shot-9-dead-over-holiday-weekend/

[Godzuki]

Well I hope the community of Baltimore is happy. Police presence and arrests are way down. :applause:

BTW 9 murdered and 30 people shot, this Memorial Day weekend....


http://baltimore.cbslocal.com/2015/05/25/baltimore-bloodshed-continues-28-shot-9-dead-over-holiday-weekend/


cops should go on strike.

the masses are stupid. they don't know what they have until its gone.

once there are drug dealers and pimps on every corner, they're getting mugged walking to the store, kids getting killed from stray bullets, etc. maybe people will realize they're idiots and not to protect the thugs.

too bad it affects the people and businesses who are supportive of the police, so its a win lose situation.

[Patrick Chewing]

I don't understand why these people aren't on the streets right now rioting over this?


Oh that's right, it's cause the combined IQ of the ghetto trash in Baltimore is -11.

[HitandRun Reggie]

Baltimore DA looks like she may have a weak case. She is blocking the release of the autopsy and is seeking a gag order to the release of it's information by all involved.

She says it's because she doesn't want this case tried in the media. This is from the same b!tch who was calling 4 or 5 press conferences a day. :oldlol:

Sounds like she has a weak case, and/or she doesn't know what the fvck she's doing. I'm betting none of these cops are convicted with an outside chance of this attorney realizing her case is so weak, she decides to cowardly run away from the case by submitting to the defense's request that she be removed because of a conflict of interest.


http://m.nydailynews.com/news/national/attorney-ban-freddie-gray-autopsy-release-report-article-1.2245698

[qrich]

Sad Long Beach didn't riot :cry:

[HitandRun Reggie]

City pays out 6.4 million to Freddie Gray's family. Seems a little premature before the criminal verdict against the cops. Especially since there was a witness who said Gray was trying to hurt himself on purpose. Hmmmm...

http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/freddie-gray/bs-md-ci-boe-20150908-story.html

[Patrick Chewing]

Baltimore is a joke. How do you award this money without even having a civil trial? What they've done now is set themselves up for future criminals to take the same Freddie Gray rout and attempt to injure themselves to have themselves or their families awarded a ridiculous amount of money. This is extortion plain and simple.

This is the America the Liberal Establishment wanted. They got it.

[NumberSix]

Baltimore is a joke. How do you award this money without even having a civil trial? What they've done now is set themselves up for future criminals to take the same Freddie Gray rout and attempt to injure themselves to have themselves or their families awarded a ridiculous amount of money. This is extortion plain and simple.

This is the America the Liberal Establishment wanted. They got it.
This is basically the city declaring that the police officers are guilty before a trial has even taken place. Literally an anti-constitutional civil rights violation.

[UK2K]

This is basically the city declaring that the police officers are guilty before a trial has even taken place. Literally an anti-constitutional civil rights violation.

The city has already tried to manipulate and withhold evidence in order to declare the officers guilty.

When I first read it, I figured his family would be like that skit from Chappelle's Show...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BanZPDlCIAA6NYu.jpg

[warriorfan]

City pays out 6.4 million to Freddie Gray's family. Seems a little premature before the criminal verdict against the cops. Especially since there was a witness who said Gray was trying to hurt himself on purpose. Hmmmm...

http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/freddie-gray/bs-md-ci-boe-20150908-story.html

yea, he broke his neck, and he did it on purpose

:biggums:

[NumberSix]

yea, he broke his neck, and he did it on purpose

:biggums:
It wasn't the first time he hurt himself on purpose while in police custody. Obviously he didn't break his neck on purpose, but it's certainly possible that he accidentally broke his neck while trying to hurt himself. And it's also possible that he didn't do anything to hurt himself at all.

[warriorfan]

It wasn't the first time he hurt himself on purpose while in police custody. Obviously he didn't break his neck on purpose, but it's certainly possible that he accidentally broke his neck while trying to hurt himself. And it's also possible that he didn't do anything to hurt himself at all.

anything is possible :roll:

[Patrick Chewing]

The worst part is that this presents a flawed message to the jury. By the city settling with Gray's family, there is an underlying acceptance of guilt by the city, which employs these officers. The city wants these cops to be found guilty. This is INSANE.