What do you think of Andrew Wiggins' game?

[insidehoops]

What do you think of Andrew Wiggins' game?

Wiggins led all rookies per game in points, minutes, field goals and free throws while becoming the only Wolves player to appear in all 82 games. Wiggins, the former first-overall pick by Cleveland who was acquired in the Kevin Love trade in August, won the first four Western Conference rookie of the month awards of the season, scored in double figures in 69 of 82 games, had 20 or more points 31 times and scored at least 30 four times. At one point during the season, when asked about the rookie of the year discussion, Wolves president of basketball operations and coach Flip Saunders said, flatly,

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love u jeff


Oh and Wiggy has been more impressive than i expected

[Mr. Jabbar]

LeJudas f***ed cleveland for the 2nd time :lol

[IMObjective]

It would be crazy for a team to trade him.

[Ca$H]

Bruce Jenner.

[lilandywiggins]

Dude is great, and potentially the top player in the league in the future. He just needs to go through some growing pains first.

[Harison]

If Wigs develops as fast as he did in the 1st season and avoids injuries, he will be a genuine superstar in a couple of seasons.

[ISHGoat]

I think his game is mj-esque

He legit tries to posterize everyone and doesnt afraid of anybody.

[the_troof]

If Wigs develops as fast as he did in the 1st season and avoids injuries, he will be a genuine superstar in a couple of seasons.
Especially with a chance to get an amazing big man prospect with KG acting as virtual coach... Twolves could be scary soon

[Fudge]

Top 3 player in like 3 years. And for the next 5-10 years, behind Durant and Davis.

[ABfor3]

Impressed with his ability to post up so well already , has nice touch. His jumper will improve over time but he has nice length, athleticism , and defensive ability. He will be among the elite within a few years

[Cold soul]

Wiggins will be one of best players in NBA soon enough give it few more years. I love his potential he has crazy athleticism for his age.

[JellyBean]

Just watching how Wiggins has progressed each game, you can't be appreciate his game. It was like each practice and each game, Wiggins gained more confidence and found a flow. The sky is the limit for this young man. Oh, we got room; plenty of room, on the Timberwolves bandwagon. :D

[ClipperRevival]

Obviously, he has the prototypical wing player size. Tall, long and athletic as hell. He isn't freakishly athletic like his teammate LaVine but he's got more than enough to excel at this level. But what he does have is incredibly light feet, which has already made him an elite on the ball defender. If he works on his D, he can make All-Defensive 1st teams for the next decade.

I always liked his shooting form. It looks right. And I can see him having a solid midrange and 3 point range. He's got some basic post moves already as a rookie, which is a plus. He can obviously slash and run the floor with the best of them.

Like any talented young player who has the physical gifts, it's going to come down to the intangibles. How bad does he want to be great, how much does he want to win, his leadership abilities, his ability to perform in the clutch, etc. Cause let's face it, the game has seen so many great talents that never pan out because they don't have it mentally. Like Wes Johnson, Javal McGee, Michael Beasley, Derrick Williams, etc etc. But Wiggins strikes me as a guy who is mentally strong and is willing to work. Even if he doesn't develop into an all around great player, his D and athleticism alone will make him a valuable 3 at this level. But I think he will be more than that for the reasons I mentioned above.

[scm5]

Obviously, he has the prototypical wing player size. Tall, long and athletic as hell. He isn't freakishly athletic like his teammate LaVine but he's got more than enough to excel at this level. But what he does have is incredibly light feet, which has already made him an elite on the ball defender. If he works on his D, he can make All-Defensive 1st teams for the next decade.

I always liked his shooting form. It looks right. And I can see him having a solid midrange and 3 point range. He's got some basic post moves already as a rookie, which is a plus. He can obviously slash and run the floor with the best of them.

Like any talented young player who has the physical gifts, it's going to come down to the intangibles. How bad does he want to be great, how much does he want to win, his leadership abilities, his ability to perform in the clutch, etc. Cause let's face it, the game has seen so many great talents that never pan out because they don't have it mentally. Like Wes Johnson, Javal McGee, Michael Beasley, Derrick Williams, etc etc. But Wiggins strikes me as a guy who is mentally strong and is willing to work. Even if he doesn't develop into an all around great player, his D and athleticism alone will make him a valuable 3 at this level. But I think he will be more than that for the reasons I mentioned above.

What?

http://www.nj.com/sixers/index.ssf/2014/05/nba_draft_2014_andrew_wiggins_vertical_leap_measur ed_at_44_inches.html

Wiggins is the definition of freakishly athletic.

[Dave3]

What?

http://www.nj.com/sixers/index.ssf/2014/05/nba_draft_2014_andrew_wiggins_vertical_leap_measur ed_at_44_inches.html

Wiggins is the definition of freakishly athletic.
LaVine is quicker, faster, and has more agility in the air. They're both freakish athletes, but I think LaVine does look more athletic on the court.

[ClipperRevival]

What?

http://www.nj.com/sixers/index.ssf/2014/05/nba_draft_2014_andrew_wiggins_vertical_leap_measur ed_at_44_inches.html

Wiggins is the definition of freakishly athletic.

There are levels to athleticism at the NBA level. At the top are guys like Wesbrook, prime DRose and Lavine. I would say Wiggins is a tier below that. He's still special athletically, just not at the highest level.

[Dr Hawk]

There are levels to athleticism at the NBA level. At the top are guys like Wesbrook, prime DRose and Lavine. I would say Wiggins is a tier below that. He's still special athletically, just not at the highest level.

Wiggins is more athletic than Lavine. He might not be the leaper Lavine is, but Wiggins is taller and stronger.

[ClipperRevival]

Wiggins is more athletic than Lavine. He might not be the leaper Lavine is, but Wiggins is taller and stronger.

Your definition of "athleticism" must differ from mine because I never consider height or strength as part of athleticism. But you are right. He is taller, longer and stronger, which gives him a higher ceiling over Lavine.

[inclinerator]

stiff and not fluid, someone needs to loosen him up

[ClipperRevival]

stiff and not fluid, someone needs to loosen him up

He's not Pippen fluid but fluid enough. He has VERY quick and light feet and can slide laterally with ease. That is a rare trait to possess for a guy with his height and length. The guy could be a nightmare on D if he ever decides to focus on that end. I can't imagine a guy like that guarding me.

[FireDavidKahn]

What's unreal about him is that his post game is legitimately elite already. It's even more mind blowing since he is skinny as a stick. His step jack jumper is a superstar move as well but he is still inconsistent with his J. If he improves consistently in that area he will become a superstar.

[FireDavidKahn]

Your definition of "athleticism" must differ from mine because I never consider height or strength as part of athleticism. But you are right. He is taller, longer and stronger, which gives him a higher ceiling over Lavine.
Strength is absolutely a part of atheticism:facepalm

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The thread is made about Andrew Wiggins, then by the second page people start debating over the definition of athleticism.

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[ClipperRevival]

Strength is absolutely a part of atheticism:facepalm

Umm. No it isn't. Strength is strength. Was Oakley athletic? Or how about A. Mason? Athleticism is explosiveness, quickness, fluidity, agility, light feet, vertical leap, etc. The type of stuff you can't teach.

[Dr Hawk]

Your definition of "athleticism" must differ from mine because I never consider height or strength as part of athleticism. But you are right. He is taller, longer and stronger, which gives him a higher ceiling over Lavine.

I consider strength, height, quickness, vertical, agility, body control and stamina part of athleticism (maybe I'm forgetting about something else too)

For instance, a 6'1 guy would be less athletic than a 6'3 guy with the same exact numbers on vertical, quickness, etc...

[Optimus Prime]

I think Cleveland made a huge mistake giving up so early and including Wiggins in the Love deal. Then again, they really had no choice because LeBetaGM held the franchise hostage.

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I think Cleveland made a huge mistake giving up so early and including Wiggins in the Love deal. Then again, they really had no choice because LeBetaGM held the franchise hostage.

:kobe:
I'm just glad enough the franchise was ballsy enough to make a move, then more moves once Varejao went down. If Love leaves, obviously it's their loss since they were hoping he'd stay long-term with LeBron and Kyrie, but if you have a chance to combine a player of his caliper with Kyrie and Lebron you do it in hopes of winning a championship.

[Optimus Prime]

I'm just glad enough the franchise was ballsy enough to make a move, then more moves once Varejao went down. If Love leaves, obviously it's their loss since they were hoping he'd stay long-term with LeBron and Kyrie, but if you have a chance to combine a player of his caliper with Kyrie and Lebron you do it in hopes of winning a championship.

I agree, because even I said at the time they needed to make the deal since LeBetaGM coming to town basically meant WIN NOW AT ALL COSTS. Wiggins is looking like a star in the making though, and if Love bails or the Cavs fail to win a ring, it will go down as a huge blunder by the Cavs to appease one player.

LeBeta/Kyrie/Wiggins could be just as beastly as well. Just sayin'.

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LeBeta/Kyrie/Wiggins could be just as beastly as well. Just sayin'.

:kobe:
Maybe, maybe not. It's hard to tell how he would develop in Cleveland because he wasn't going to be starting right away. And if Wiggins was there it would've further hampered things because I don't think the Cavs trade for J.R. Smith and Iman. I really hope they keep Iman, he's exactly what I want coming off the bench.

The most underrated move during the season for the Cavs? Getting rid of Dion Waiters. He just wasn't going to fit in with his style of play nor his attitude.

[Optimus Prime]

Maybe, maybe not. It's hard to tell how he would develop in Cleveland because he wasn't going to be starting right away. And if Wiggins was there it would've further hampered things because I don't think the Cavs trade for J.R. Smith and Iman. I really hope they keep Iman, he's exactly what I want coming off the bench.

The most underrated move during the season for the Cavs? Getting rid of Dion Waiters. He just wasn't going to fit in with his style of play nor his attitude.

Kyrie
Wiggins
LeBeta
Thompson
Mozgov

That is a pretty beastly lineup.

And Waiters...wow. Addition by subtraction in this case. He is so bad. :facepalm

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Kyrie
Wiggins
LeBeta
Thompson
Mozgov

That is a pretty beastly lineup.

And Waiters...wow. Addition by subtraction in this case. He is so bad. :facepalm
I don't think the lineup is beastly at all, mostly because of the spacing issues. You have Wiggins who shoots horribly from three at this time. Thompson and Mozgov take up too much room in the paint and they both play mostly 10 feet from the basket. There's a reason they don't play together on the floor that much. Which is why James Jones is probably starting at PF instead of Thompson in the playoffs now.

[Optimus Prime]

I don't think the lineup is beastly at all, mostly because of the spacing issues. You have Wiggins who shoots horribly from three at this time. Thompson and Mozgov take up too much room in the paint and they both play mostly 10 feet from the basket. There's a reason they don't play together on the floor that much. Which is why James Jones is probably starting at PF instead of Thompson in the playoffs now.

Yes, it is true that LeBeta can only play one way. But that's not what this thread is about. :oldlol:

Besides, you can teach a player shooting if they really want to learn it, but you can't teach athleticism. Just look at Blake Griffin. Wiggins is basically the only option on a terribad Wolves team, but on the Cavs he would be like what...#3? #4? Right now he has to do everything, but if he had a lesser role, I think he would focus more on his shot.

[Collie]

I'd say Wiggins is about as athletic as Tmac, which is more than enough.

[Angel Face]

Future superstar. He has good post moves and footwork for his age, has good shooting form and a mid range game and the fact that he is willing to posterize everyone without giving a fvck. Crazy athletic. Kid reminds me of MJ.

[dreamwarrior]

His game is very solid. He's much more than just an athletic freak. Offensively he's right where he should be. His jumper is good. I wouldn't change anything mechanics wise. He'll make more over time. Everyone struggles with FG% as a rookie and I think he ended the season better than we saw from Jabari. It's safe to say he was totally deserving of being picked #1. As for becoming a superstar, I don't know. It's still too early to tell as his rookie year while very good wasn't exactly off the charts. He actually needs to improve defensively on man to man coverage, where his small build just isn't good enough to stop guys who aren't afraid to go after him. Hopefully he grows into his body in the next year or two.

[ThickassGlasses]

He'll be good, potentially great, but I don't think he'll get better than Kawhi Leonard. But I also think Leonard is a dark horse to make a run at the best player in the league in a couple years when Pop turns the team over to him.

[Angel Face]

Wiggins looks like he's a natural scorer. MJ, Kobe, T-Mac, Durant and Wiggins could be the next in line scoring superstar.

[veilside23]

He'll be good, potentially great, but I don't think he'll get better than Kawhi Leonard. But I also think Leonard is a dark horse to make a run at the best player in the league in a couple years when Pop turns the team over to him.

hmmm i love me some leonard but come on dude... a pre disastrous injury paul george was better than kahwi... its way to go out on a limb to say such thing that wiggins wont surpass leonard. dude was bless with a great organization to begin with and arguably the greatest player of this generation. wiggins started with young guys with the exception of young,martin, pek. KG only arrived mid season.

on topic :
I am really impressed by wiggins post play. I mean there are a lot of times that he post up with a good/great defender and scored using his pivot something that not all superstars have. His jumper needs work but you realize that every time it goes its always the bottom of the net. his 3 pt shooting may have regressed but he isnt terrible, first half of the season dude was shooting 42% from 3 pt line before rubio got injured.

What i want from Wiggins this year is to play defense on all possession and i am sure he could do that. It would be great for wiggins to get 1.5 blocks and 2 steals for game because i know that the offense will follow.