Kobe will have never even played a playoff game past age 33???

[Akrazotile]

:eek:

Maybe I'm missing someone but this seems almost unprecedented for the supposed all time greats.

Are there any other basketball all-timers with such poor longevity? Not sure what age Iverson became such a cancer no contenders wanted him, I feel like it was prob around 33.

Wade is 33 now, but I have to assume he'll get back to the playoffs at least once before his new contract is up.

[Asiantastic]

Father time is a bitch

[Nash]

played 11 seasons without shaq, missed 4 playoffs.

[imdaman99]

He came straight out of HS so it's not like this is his 11th season.

And rent free :hammerhead:

[TheMarkMadsen]

played 11 seasons without shaq, missed 4 playoffs.

Only if you count 2013, 2014 & 2015

And in 2013 he dragged that team into the playoffs, got injured and then they were slaughtered without him..

The other 2 seasons Kobe played a combined 40 some games.

In other words, you're a moron

[ISHGoat]

Only if you count 2013, 2014 & 2015

And in 2013 he dragged that team into the playoffs, got injured and then they were slaughtered without him..

The other 2 seasons Kobe played a combined 40 some games.

In other words, you're a moron

Kobe stans and their excuses. They literally have excuses for everything.

But but but he was a bench player his first years!!

But but but the WCF was the real finals!!

But he took highly contested shots which is why his fg% is lower! (why the **** doesnt he pass to open teammates?)

[TheMarkMadsen]

Kobe stans and their excuses. They literally have excuses for everything.

But but but he was a bench player his first years!!

But but but the WCF was the real finals!!

But he took highly contested shots which is why his fg% is lower! (why the **** doesnt he pass to open teammates?)

So wait

we should count 2013, 2014 & 2015 as Kobe missing the playoffs??

:roll: :roll:

[daily]

OP has Welcome Laker Nation tattooed on his forehead

[HOoopCityJones]

OP has Welcome Laker Nation tattooed on his forehead

:oldlol:

[ISHGoat]

So wait

we should count 2013, 2014 & 2015 as Kobe missing the playoffs??

:roll: :roll:


Well did he make the playoffs?

[IMObjective]

So wait

we should count 2013, 2014 & 2015 as Kobe missing the playoffs??

:roll: :roll:
I know, damn, nikka can't catch a break even when sitting out injured. He's still expected to carry his team to the playoffs from the bench.

[ImKobe]

Well did he make the playoffs?

He had season-ending injuries, you moron. Lakers made the Playoffs in 2013 thanks to him carrying that team until injury, playing 45-48 minutes a night because Lakers had no one to bring off the bench due to injuries...

2013-14 breaks knee 6 games into his season...
2014-15 season-ending shoulder injury before all-star break

So, even if the teams made the Playoffs, it doesn't matter because he wouldn't be able to play due to season-ending injury. Kobe never missed the Playoffs playing a full season.

[ISHGoat]

He had season-ending injuries, you moron. Lakers made the Playoffs in 2013 thanks to him carrying that team until injury, playing 45-48 minutes a night because Lakers had no one to bring off the bench due to injuries...

2013-14 breaks knee 6 games into his season...
2014-15 season-ending shoulder injury before all-star break

So, even if the teams made the Playoffs, it doesn't matter because he wouldn't be able to play due to season-ending injury. Kobe never missed the Playoffs playing a full season.


Kobe has basically missed the playoffs or lost in the first round every season he didnt have a dominant big to carry him.

Fact.

[HOoopCityJones]

Well did he make the playoffs?

Better than making the playoffs in the LEast, where ya boy teams up with all the talent and beats on the bottom feeding Teams like Boston trying to fake dominance.

That's like beating up the kids at school with down syndrome when there's way more ni99as wit the shits out there who will catch a fair fade.

[24-Inch_Chrome]

No one gives a shit. Agenda threads that are this obvious can **** off.

[ISHGoat]

Better than making the playoffs in the LEast, where ya boy teams up with all the talent a beats on the bottom feeding Teams like Boston trying to fake dominance.

That's like beating up the kids at school with down syndrome when there's way more ni99as wit the shits out there who will catch a fair fade.

Missing the playoffs in your dead smack peak and consecutive first round exits as the man > leading a bunch of dleagers to the finals in your fourth season?

Kobe stans delusional as always

[gts]

Well did he make the playoffs?


Nobody can possibly be this stupid can they?

[Eric Cartman]

Missing the playoffs in your dead smack peak and consecutive first round exits as the man > leading a bunch of dleagers to the finals in your fourth season?

Kobe stans delusional as always

Raptor fan that hates kobe.

Seems about right.

[Levity]

It's honestly pathetic that an injured Kobe couldnt will his team into the playoffs from the bench these past 2 seasons. has there ever been a more beta player in the league?? i think not...

[Quickening]

It's honestly pathetic that an injured Kobe couldnt will his team into the playoffs from the bench these past 2 seasons. has there ever been a more beta player in the league?? i think not...
Injuries are part of the game, don't brag about goat longevity when you're irrelevant from 33 onwards

[lilandywiggins]

Only if you count 2013, 2014 & 2015

And in 2013 he dragged that team into the playoffs, got injured and then they were slaughtered without him..

The other 2 seasons Kobe played a combined 40 some games.

In other words, you're a moron

Lakers fans play up the injuries of that team to make it sound like Kobe dragged them, but Dwight played 76 games. Also, down the stretch of that season was the most iffy end of play calls in regular season history in Lakers favor.

[SwayDizzle]

I'm fairly certain Bran himself would not be proud of the overall idiocy his stans display on a daily basis.

[Levity]

Injuries are part of the game, don't brag about goat longevity when you're irrelevant from 33 onwards

good point. no one should brag about longevity after being healthy for the 16 years of their career

[DMAVS41]

good point. no one should brag about longevity after being healthy for the 16 years of their career

A little misleading as Kobe wasn't relevant his first two years...then played a lockout year in year 3.

He put little to no wear and tear on his body those first 3 years... Then had more years of Shaq. He was hurt all of 05 and has basically been hurt to varying degrees since the 10 finals.

Over rated longevity and durability.

Check the durability of guys like Duncan and Dirk... Much better.

[HOoopCityJones]

A little misleading as Kobe wasn't relevant his first two years...then played a lockout year in year 3.

He put little to no wear and tear on his body those first 3 years... Then had more years of Shaq. He was hurt all of 05 and has basically been hurt to varying degrees since the 10 finals.

Over rated longevity and durability.

Check the durability of guys like Duncan and Dirk... Much better.

Kobe >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Dirk

[Akrazotile]

A little misleading as Kobe wasn't relevant his first two years...then played a lockout year in year 3.

He put little to no wear and tear on his body those first 3 years... Then had more years of Shaq. He was hurt all of 05 and has basically been hurt to varying degrees since the 10 finals.

Over rated longevity and durability.

Check the durability of guys like Duncan and Dirk... Much better.



:applause:

[Doranku]

A little misleading as Kobe wasn't relevant his first two years...then played a lockout year in year 3.

He put little to no wear and tear on his body those first 3 years... Then had more years of Shaq. He was hurt all of 05 and has basically been hurt to varying degrees since the 10 finals.

Over rated longevity and durability.

Check the durability of guys like Duncan and Dirk... Much better.

:roll: Such an awful post. Dirk being complete garbage and your Mavs losing to the joke that is the Houston Rockets must really be bearing down on you right now.

You fault Kobe for playing with Shaq as if playing 40+ minutes a game on what was basically a two-man team at times is a knock on his longevity or something.

Then you have the audacity to point at Duncan who has had the fortune of playing in the Spurs system his ENTIRE career. His minutes have been monitored for nearly the past decade. He's regularly been able to sit out games because that's what playing in the Spurs system allows you to do. How many games did you see Kobe sitting out playing with Shaq?

And finally you say some nonsense about Kobe "basically being injured" since the '10 finals... yet he played all 82 games in '11, 58/66 in '12, and 78 games in '13 up until the Achilles injury.

Real overrated longevity right there. :rolleyes:

[Cold soul]

:roll: Such an awful post. Dirk being complete garbage and your Mavs losing to the joke that is the Houston Rockets must really be bearing down on you right now.

You fault Kobe for playing with Shaq as if playing 40+ minutes a game on what was basically a two-man team at times is a knock on his longevity or something.

Then you have the audacity to point at Duncan who has had the fortune of playing in the Spurs system his ENTIRE career. His minutes have been monitored for nearly the past decade. He's regularly been able to sit out games because that's what playing in the Spurs system allows you to do. How many games did you see Kobe sitting out playing with Shaq?

And finally you say some nonsense about Kobe "basically being injured" since the '10 finals... yet he played all 82 games in '11, 58/66 in '12, and 78 games in '13 up until the Achilles injury.

Real overrated longevity right there. :rolleyes:

Ignore him it's best thing to do. He hates Kobe with a burning passion, but loves Dirk and defends him at any cost.

[kennethgriffin]

And yet he still has 7 finals. 5 titles, 3rd most points ever scored and the most 50+ win teams ever beatin

[greatest-ever]

I don't view Kobe's legacy by what has happened these past few years. He got hurt at the end of the 2013 season because he was carrying a ridiculous offensive load for a 34 year old. Since that season his team has been ass and he's been a shell of himself due to age and injuries.

[Cold soul]

I don't view Kobe's legacy by what has happened these past few years. He got hurt at the end of the 2013 season because he was carrying a ridiculous offensive load for a 34 year old. Since that season his team has been ass and he's been a shell of himself due to age and injuries.

Just like MJ last years with Wizards you can't judge HOF players at end of their careers when they are closer to retirement compared to beginning of their playing career. I mean the majority of time almost all players are shell of their former selves farther time is undefeated after all.

[Droid101]

Just like MJ last years with Wizards you can't judge HOF players at end of their careers when they are closer to retirement compared to beginning of their playing career.
Hey guys, what's going on in this thread?

http://famousdude.com/images/hakeem-olajuwon-04.jpg

https://fandemonium.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/ewing-sonics.jpg

http://d1warraxuf7xh1.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/steve-nash-lakers.jpg

http://cdn.slamonline.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/kevin-garnett.jpg

[Cold soul]

Hey guys, what's going on in this thread?

http://famousdude.com/images/hakeem-olajuwon-04.jpg

https://fandemonium.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/ewing-sonics.jpg

http://d1warraxuf7xh1.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/steve-nash-lakers.jpg

http://cdn.slamonline.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/kevin-garnett.jpg

Lol yeah pretty much sums it up.

[24-Inch_Chrome]

Damn, forgot that Hakeem spent a year with Toronto. :lol

Unfortunately can't forget that Nash spent time with the Lakers. :(

[Droid101]

The problem is, those guys went to new teams after their decline, so it's easy to say "the Rocket days" for Hakeem. Kobe will never leave the Lakers, so there is no disconnect from his dominant days and his not-dominant days.

He should change his number again. New era!

[24-Inch_Chrome]

That's a good point. Kobe has only shown serious statistical decline over the last two seasons, both of which were ended prematurely by injury and one of which featured him playing in only 6 games.

2012-2013 saw him putting up 27.3 PPG on 46% shooting, and while I doubt he'll achieve those kind of numbers again it's not like he'll be realistically expected to. He'll be 37 next season, I expect maybe 20/5/5 on 41%, or something like that. Not that that's a bad thing, everyone ages and everyone declines. Just a part of life.

[jzek]

how old was jordan in his last playoff game?

[Droid101]

how old was jordan in his last playoff game?
34

So, mega thread backfire basically. OP's par for the course most times.

[Akrazotile]

34

So, mega thread backfire basically. OP's par for the course most times.


35.

But of course this isnt the first time you lie, fudge, or cheat the truth to support your agenda.

How "tooerant and progressive" of you :rolleyes:

[SouBeachTalents]

34

So, mega thread backfire basically. OP's par for the course most times.

Bill Russell was 34 too, and I know that's the first thing people talk about whenever they discuss Russell and the playoffs. I'm sure the same fate awaits Kobe

[Droid101]

35.

But of course this isnt the first time you lie, fudge, or cheat the truth to support your agenda.

How "tooerant and progressive" of you :rolleyes:
Er, his Basketball Reference said 34, so I'm assuming they meant at the beginning of the season.

Your point is still retarded.


Bill Russell was 34 too, and I know that's the first thing people talk about whenever they discuss Russell and the playoffs. I'm sure the same fate awaits Kobe
Exactly. "Last playoff game played age" is probably the stupidest metric I've ever heard anyone try to use. Dumber than 3ball's Navigational Efficiency and off-ball passing.

[Akrazotile]

Bill Russell was 34 too, and I know that's the first thing people talk about whenever they discuss Russell and the playoffs. I'm sure the same fate awaits Kobe


Amazing how misinformation spreads. You read a poster like droid101 posting misinformation to suit his man-worshipping agenda, and you repeat it, suddenly everyone is believing false facts.

MJ was 35 years old when he was his final chip.

Also was MVP that year :pimp:

[AirBourne92]

Injuries are part of the game, don't brag about goat longevity when you're irrelevant from 33 onwards


says the guy with the picture of a dude with a broke ass jumper

lmk when lebron wins without teaming up with a big man that can shoot 3s to open up his cherry picking layup lanes

[kennethgriffin]

people really need to take into consideration that the real kobe timeline involves playoffs and more runs at titles and more seasons of 25+ppg

we're living in the bogus alternate universe with "vetos for basketball reasons"


if that veto never happens. lakers still get howard and paul/kobe/howard are going for rings

kobe never rips his achilles in half from having to play PG for an injured nash and 2 others

kobe never gets forced to play 40 mpg late in the season just to make the playoffs



david stern literally robbed us of 1-2 more titles for Kobe and a great ending to his career


owell

[DMAVS41]

:roll: Such an awful post. Dirk being complete garbage and your Mavs losing to the joke that is the Houston Rockets must really be bearing down on you right now.

You fault Kobe for playing with Shaq as if playing 40+ minutes a game on what was basically a two-man team at times is a knock on his longevity or something.

Then you have the audacity to point at Duncan who has had the fortune of playing in the Spurs system his ENTIRE career. His minutes have been monitored for nearly the past decade. He's regularly been able to sit out games because that's what playing in the Spurs system allows you to do. How many games did you see Kobe sitting out playing with Shaq?

And finally you say some nonsense about Kobe "basically being injured" since the '10 finals... yet he played all 82 games in '11, 58/66 in '12, and 78 games in '13 up until the Achilles injury.

Real overrated longevity right there. :rolleyes:

Yes...it's overrated longevity because clowns like you ignore college play for Duncan and overseas play for Dirk.

Kobe was not putting any more wear and tear on his body early on than those guys.

I didn't discount the years with Shaq...I said it was a luxury to not be the "man" on a team and have prime Shaq taking a huge burden...which is just a fact.

And yes, he has been hurt to varying degrees since 10.

Was hurt in the 11 playoffs (or at least that is what you clowns claimed when he got his shit kicked in by Dirk)

Missed the 13 playoffs.

Missed virtually all of 14 and 15...

LOL...what else do you call that? He's been right health wise for 1 playoffs since 2010. It's now 2015...

Also...there is this:

Since 99:

Dirk - 1265 played and 1234 started...44,885 minutes played
Duncan - 1249 played and 1247 started...42,628 minutes played

Kobe - 1130 played and 1125 started...43,615 minutes played


Even then...It's not really just about that. It's about missed time. Kobe has missed a lot of games compared to Dirk and Duncan throughout their careers. So just adding up minutes and games is even a bit unfair because Kobe has had more chances. Not really any evidence that Dirk/Duncan would miss more games if given the chance to play more....

Good longevity for Kobe? Hell yes...very impressive. It's just not as good as Kobe fans want to believe.

Which is the usual story.

First we had to shatter the best game winning shot maker label (ouch...did that shatter)...now we have to take care of this GOAT longevity thing.

The dude broke down very early on and discounting what other guys have done (Duncan in college and Dirk internationally) is not a honest way to compare.

My argument is that Kobe's first 2 to 3 years really don't matter much. They matter about as much as Dirk's international play throughout his career and early on.

[KembaWalker]

Injuries are part of the game, don't brag about goat longevity when you're irrelevant from 33 onwards

Irrelevant after 33? 36, not in the playoffs and that haters still making threads about him :bowdown:

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