From 1-10 what level of respect you give Lebron and what he did in his career so far?

[Real14]

I give him a 2.5/10 for taking a mediocre team to tha finals in 07,and becoming one of tha best passers of all timez with nice dunking ability. I don't have to say what makes me disrespect him so much either, since you probably already know my several factual reasons.

What do you give him?

https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/2324094252/image.jpg

[Hit_Em]

9

that picture doe http://i.imgur.com/EvelhIF.png

[Magic 32]

About 6.5, but receding.

[Real14]

About 6.5, but receding.
damn I'm surprised you gave him that much:lol

[Real14]

9

that picture doe http://i.imgur.com/EvelhIF.png

http://www.starzontherize.com/images/meekmill.jpg

[3ball]

Not much - he's team-hopped to play with unfair talent, and still only had the best team 2/11 seasons.. :confusedshrug:

He also entered the league during the weakest era in NBA history.. At that time, the NBA couldn't beat Euroleague - literally - they lost to them repeatedly (7 times) on the biggest stage (world stage).

The USA's skills and brand of basketball was so far inferior at that time, that it more than offset their GOAT talent advantage.

There's only way to describe an NBA that can't beat Euroleague (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=373182): the worst era of all time.

[Real14]

Not much - he's team-hopped to play with unfair talent, and still only had the best team 2/11 seasons.. :confusedshrug:

He also entered the league during the weakest era in NBA history.. At that time, the NBA couldn't beat Euroleague - literally - they lost to them repeatedly (7 times) on the biggest stage (world stage).

The USA's skills and brand of basketball was so far inferior at that time, that it more than offset their GOAT talent advantage.

There's only way to describe an NBA that can't beat Euroleague (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=373182): the worst era of all time.



I definitely agree man. I don't how people can still respect lebronze like that these days especially after all tha shit he pulled for tha last 5 years. That 2004 Olympic team was quite embarrassing too.

[MJistheGOAT]

Pre-quit and Heat collusion: 8
Heat and Cavs era: 5

So, I

[Budadiiii]

2.5 out of 10.

I had way higher expectations for the guy. The more time goes on, the more it pains me to watch this hype machine crumble right before our eyes in pathetically pitiful fashion.

[Akrazotile]

Definitely like a 16 at least.

4 mvps, 100% of his titles came as 1st option/FMVP, never caught a rape charge, actually plays defense.

We're looking at a top 3 GOAT. Thats minimum. Thats as of NOW.

[kennethgriffin]

well if jordans a 10

and kareems a 9.9

and russells a 9.8

and magic is a 9.7

and kobe is a 9.6

and duncan is a 9.5

and shaq is a 9.4

and bird is a 9.3

and hakeem is a 9.2

and wilt is a 9.1


























then i'd have to give lebron a 2 out of 5

[Droid101]

then i'd have to give lebron a 2 out of 5
Predictable, but still awesome.

[JohnFreeman]

10

[MavsSuperFan]

9 out of 10

[ShawkFactory]

well if jordans a 10

and kareems a 9.9

and russells a 9.8

and magic is a 9.7

and kobe is a 9.6

and duncan is a 9.5

and shaq is a 9.4

and bird is a 9.3

and hakeem is a 9.2

and wilt is a 9.1


























then i'd have to give lebron a 2 out of 5
That doesn't even make sense.

[Angel Face]

4 / 10

He's a good player but wilts under pressure and needed a super stacked team to only win 2/4. Replace him with other stars they could win 3. Put prime Jordan in his place, it will be a grand slam. Hell, even Scottie could win 3 with those Heat teams.

[HylianNightmare]

5-6

[sportjames23]

4 / 10

He's a good player but wilts under pressure and needed a super stacked team to only win 2/4. Replace him with other stars they could win 3. Put prime Jordan in his place, it will be a grand slam. Hell, even Scottie could win 3 with those Heat teams.


I see what you did there. :oldlol:

[theaussieguy]

to answer ur question properly, I'd have to say an 8. He might not have reached his epic potential, but he was super hyped since he was in High school. These days when such a thing happens, you automatically assume the hype is unwarranted because of how often these next big things fail to deliver.

Lebron did deliver, on the worlds biggest stage. He brought a dodgy ass team to the finals in 2007, anyone who thinks any other player could do that in this current era is kidding themselves, Lebron's impact on a team is as tangible as the girth of my dick. He made it to 4 straight NBA finals, winning 2 of those back to back. 4 MVP seasons.

We are all ****ing spoilt by Jordan but the reality is, he did ****ing deliver. I don't even like the guy, but he delivered.

[Angel Face]

I see what you did there. :oldlol:

:oldlol:

Good catch.

[buddha]

2/5 so about a 4/10

[Megabox!]

well if jordans a 10

and kareems a 9.9

and russells a 9.8

and magic is a 9.7

and kobe is a 9.6

and duncan is a 9.5

and shaq is a 9.4

and bird is a 9.3

and hakeem is a 9.2

and wilt is a 9.1


























then i'd have to give lebron a 2 out of 5
Uhhhhhh........

[Prometheus]

7.8723

Round up to 8 if you're lazy.

[Smoke117]

I give him a 2.5/10 for taking a mediocre team to tha finals in 07,and becoming one of tha best passers of all timez with nice dunking ability.


And what level of respect do you give Carmelo? I can't wait to read this.

[305Baller]

I'll give Bran 9/10. The guy works his butt off and hasnt slacked hard yet. I'll shave a point off for being taller than most with his speed and skills.

[senelcoolidge]

4/10

[Real14]

And what level of respect do you give Carmelo? I can't wait to read this.
6.5 for staying in ny, college championship, scoring title in 2013, 2nd in mvp votes in 2013, multi all star, and led nuggets to 3rd round.

[Cold soul]

7/10 it could even be 6 for me.

[Megabox!]

6.5 for staying in ny, college championship, scoring title in 2013, 2nd in mvp votes in 2013, multi all star, and led nuggets to 3rd round.
:roll:

[Smoke117]

6.5 for staying in ny, college championship, scoring title in 2013, 2nd in mvp votes in 2013, multi all star, and led nuggets to 3rd round.


Where do I even start when someone literally goes "full retard"...

1. Lebron is a multiple all star...

2. "2nd in mvp votes in 2013" lmfao...4 MVP's.

3. led nuggets to...not a title...while Lebron has two and has gone past the "3rd round" 5 times.

4. Just stop embarrassing yourself and have some god damn self respect.

You are so f*cking ridiculous I have to defend a player I don't even like. Why don't you go take this act on the road? It's hilarious.

[Real14]

Where do I even start when someone literally goes "full retard"...

1. Lebron is a multiple all star...

2. "2nd in mvp votes in 2013" lmfao...4 MVP's.

3. led nuggets to...not a title...while Lebron has two and has gone past the "3rd round" 5 times.

4. Just stop embarrassing yourself and have some god damn self respect.

You are so f*cking ridiculous I have to defend a player I don't even like. Why don't you go take this act on the road? It's hilarious.

Don't make me go further on why I respect Melo more than damn bron man:facepalm

1. Melo didn't had super stacked teams with 2 other all stars
2. Melo is not even top 10 in most pampered stars to go to free trips to tha line.
3. Melo was cheated out of 2013 MVP, just look at bron and melo's supporting casts that year.
4. Melo never had a postseason series handed to him which LeBron had mainly in 2012 and 2013.

Lets get REAL!:coleman:

[imdaman99]

Don't make me go further on why I respect Melo more than damn bron man:facepalm

1. Melo didn't had super stacked teams with 2 other all stars
2. Melo is not even top 10 in most pampered stars to go to free trips to tha line.
3. Melo was cheated out of 2013 MVP, just look at bron and melo's supporting casts that year.
4. Melo never had a postseason series handed to him which LeBron had mainly in 2012 and 2013.

Lets get REAL!:coleman:
This. I have argued this all the time and I don't even like Melo.

Give Melo a supporting cast of Wade and Bosh, and let's see him not get a high seed into the playoffs, or dare I say a championship. And I'm talking about a Wade and Bosh in their prime, not trading them in for 2 more prime stars.

[WadeBronDonJuan]

If you speak to anyone with any real knowledge about the game of basketball, they put Lebron in the top ten players of all time.

Anyone that argues that is obviously biased or has a severe head injury.

I literally can't believe how petty and sad some of you haters are. Anyone that ranks lebron below an 8/10 has some severe mental problems.

[Real14]

This. I have argued this all the time and I don't even like Melo.

Give Melo a supporting cast of Wade and Bosh, and let's see him not get a high seed into the playoffs, or dare I say a championship. And I'm talking about a Wade and Bosh in their prime, not trading them in for 2 more prime stars.

Exactly. Even Durant had questbrook, retarden and Jackson:facepalm. Melo 2nd option was a 6th man of tha year:oldlol:

[Smoke117]

This. I have argued this all the time and I don't even like Melo.

Give Melo a supporting cast of Wade and Bosh, and let's see him not get a high seed into the playoffs, or dare I say a championship. And I'm talking about a Wade and Bosh in their prime, not trading them in for 2 more prime stars.


Never thought you were the type to say some stupid ****ing garbage...but surprises are the spice of life. Marshmellows production and worth could equal a peak Leberons...


http://i0.wp.com/www.magicbasketballonline.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/kobe-eye-roll.gif

And when you're done reading this you can go f*ck your mother and complete this atrocity of sutpidity...

[Real14]

Never thought you were the type to say some stupid ****ing garbage...but surprises are the spice of life. Marshmellows production and worth could equal a peak Leberons...


http://i0.wp.com/www.magicbasketballonline.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/kobe-eye-roll.gif

And when you're done reading this you can go f*ck your mother and complete this atrocity of sutpidity...
:biggums: :biggums:

[Kvnzhangyay]

9/10

I mean he's accomplished so much in life compared to any of us :confusedshrug:

[Mr. Jabbar]

1/10 *golf clap, and i'm being generous


dude should have been the goat with that physique and sorry excuse of a conference he's in...., like that wasn't enough already he decided to collude. next thing you know the guy is 2/5. gtfoh.

[K Xerxes]

6.5 for staying in ny, college championship, scoring title in 2013, 2nd in mvp votes in 2013, multi all star, and led nuggets to 3rd round.

You forgot that he led the NBA in jersey sales for March 2013, so surely at least an 8/10 for that.

[StephHamann]

I give him a 2.5/10 for taking a mediocre team to tha finals in 07,and becoming one of tha best passers of all timez with nice dunking ability. I don't have to say what makes me disrespect him so much either, since you probably already know my several factual reasons.

What do you give him?

https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/2324094252/image.jpg

4/10 aka 2/5

:applause:

[KingBeasley08]

9/10. Top 10 player of all-time. That's whats up :applause:

[24-Inch_Chrome]

8.5, 9/10. Top-10 all-time player, 4 MVPs, 2 rings/FMVPs...elite r

[Quickening]

People on ISH would kill their own mother to spend a day as Lebron James.

[WallIn]

7/10

Would have given 9/10 if he had a better record in the finals.

[ImKobe]

5/10

loses points because he's below .500 in the Finals and has jumped contender teams TWICE to give himself a better chance to ring, and he still ONLY has 2 rings to show for it.

[francesco totti]

I give him 9/10, he more or less won nearly as many finals mvp as any other player post-jordan and more league mvp's.

Duncan 3
Shaq 3
Kobe 2
Lebron 2
Wade 1
Parker 1
Nowitzki 1
Leonard 1

Post-Jordan he can be considered the best we saw.

[francesco totti]

This. I have argued this all the time and I don't even like Melo.

Give Melo a supporting cast of Wade and Bosh, and let's see him not get a high seed into the playoffs, or dare I say a championship. And I'm talking about a Wade and Bosh in their prime, not trading them in for 2 more prime stars.


eh eh, Melo Had Iverson ( 4 time scoring champ) , Camby ( DPOY) in Denver. JR Smith off the bench.

Melo most of his career pre-2011 had better teammates and team then lebron.

[Real14]

eh eh, Melo Had Iverson ( 4 time scoring champ) , Camby ( DPOY) in Denver. JR Smith off the bench.

Melo most of his career pre-2011 had better teammates and team then lebron.
:biggums: :biggums: :biggums: :biggums: :biggums: :biggums: :biggums: :biggums: :biggums: :biggums:

[BigTicket]

9/10

I can't think of any other athlete that had as much hype in highschool as Lebron did, and actually manage to live up to it.

10/10 would be if he was on Jordan's level, which he is not, but he has already had one hell of a career.

[SpanishACB]

4 of 10

[Real14]

1/10 *golf clap, and i'm being generous


dude should have been the goat with that physique and sorry excuse of a conference he's in...., like that wasn't enough already he decided to collude. next thing you know the guy is 2/5. gtfoh.
damn:lol but I think that's the thing that many people are not accepting here about this dude. Lebron was hyped to be tha next kobe since he was in tha damn 10th grade and he failed miserably at that. Just like you said, he has tha athletic ability, and overall game to be tha best ever but he always comes up short like a LeBitch when the team needs him most. Its insane for sane people to even give that niguh a 5 or 6/10.:facepalm

[Dr Hawk]

9/10

Had he played the 11' Finals by his standards, 9.5/10

The pressure LeBron has had to deal with since he was 18 years old has been insane.

[ILLsmak]

Yea I think 7. 7 is also what a pretty hot girl gets when you rate her.

LeBron has been about what we expected. At first, didn't think he would be this good, then he was, but he also did some shit that brought his value down. He won a lot of MVPs and got godly stats. He also got some rings.

Outside of context, he's closer to a 10, but I have to put him at a 7 due to that.

-Smak

[Optimus Prime]

4/10 simplified

:pimp:

[gts]

I see what you did there. :oldlol:He beat me to it...:lol

[WadeBronDonJuan]

4/10 simplified

:pimp:

The mental retardation is strong in you.

[Legends66NBA7]

eh eh, Melo Had Iverson ( 4 time scoring champ) , Camby ( DPOY) in Denver. JR Smith off the bench.

Melo most of his career pre-2011 had better teammates and team then lebron.

I agree, but he was also in a tougher conference. If he had that same talent in the East, he would have deeper runs. Not that it means Melo is as good or better than LeBron.

[Ca$H]

I give him a 2.5/10 for taking a mediocre team to tha finals in 07,and becoming one of tha best passers of all timez with nice dunking ability. I don't have to say what makes me disrespect him so much either, since you probably already know my several factual reasons.

What do you give him?

https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/2324094252/image.jpg

Zero. Collusion, stacked teams, and weak Eastern Conference. I have no respect for him.

[Kvnzhangyay]

damn:lol but I think that's the thing that many people are not accepting here about this dude. Lebron was hyped to be tha next kobe since he was in tha damn 10th grade and he failed miserably at that. Just like you said, he has tha athletic ability, and overall game to be tha best ever but he always comes up short like a LeBitch when the team needs him most. Its insane for sane people to even give that niguh a 5 or 6/10.:facepalm

more like confirmation bias

[Fudge]

6/10

[Budadiiii]

The mental retardation is strong in you.
2/5

:pimp:

stay mad, negro boy.

[Ca$H]

Imagine if a guy like Kobe had Bran's body, athleticism, and good health. GOAT for sure without any collusion especially playing in the East.

[ISHGoat]

http://i59.tinypic.com/25qqk5c.png

[TheMan]

Raw athletic ability...10
Basketball skills...8
Intangibles (leadership, killer instict, loyalty)...4
Collusion...10
Ability to raise your game in the biggest stage...3.5

l'd say about a 6.5, definitely a 6-8 GOAT range player with a slight chance at top 5. Chance of top 3 GOAT? No

[SamuraiSWISH]

Athletic Ability: 5/5
Skills: 4/5
Intangibles: 3/5

[3ball]

Athletic Ability: 5/5
Skills: 4/5
Intangibles: 3/5
i'd put the intangibles lower - the other two categories mask his severe deficit in intangibles

2/11 championship frequency is pretty bad when you successfully team-hopped to play with Kobe and Lamarcus, or Drexler and Kemp.

6/11 is the GOAT championship frequency (MJ's frequency with the Bulls minus the injury season and baseball comback season).. that's a full 3 times better than Lebron's 2/11.. :confusedshrug:

[Angel Face]

People on ISH would kill their own mother to spend a day as Lebron James.

Only you and your goons...

[sportjames23]

Raw athletic ability...10
Basketball skills...8
Intangibles (leadership, killer instict, loyalty)...4
Collusion...10
Ability to raise your game in the biggest stage...3.5

l'd say about a 6.5, definitely a 6-8 GOAT range player with a slight chance at top 5. Chance of top 3 GOAT? No


:roll: :roll: :roll:

[the_troof]

i'd put the intangibles lower - the other two categories mask his severe deficit in intangibles

2/11 championship frequency is pretty bad when you successfully team-hopped to play with Kobe and Lamarcus, or Drexler and Kemp.

6/11 is the GOAT championship frequency (MJ's frequency with the Bulls minus the injury season and baseball comback season).. that's a full 3 times better than Lebron's 2/11.. :confusedshrug:
11/13 is the GOAT championship frequency

[upside24]

8

His poor play in the Boston Cleveland series in 2010 (at least by his standards) and the passive approach to the 2011 Finals hold him back from a 9.

[Real14]

A lot of you posters are giving this disloyal jerk wayy too much respect:oldlol:

[Real14]

Zero. Collusion, stacked teams, and weak Eastern Conference. I have no respect for him.

http://cdn.worldlifestyle.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/giphy.gif

[BuffaloBill]

I think a lot of people don't realize how fortunate we are to have seen so many all time greats in the their primes. Starting with Duncan, Shaq, Lebron, Kobe, and the list goes on.


If you're a basketball fan and have been for the past 10-15 years or so, you were born in the right time. Basketball peaked after Jordan retired tbh. Lazeruss and Cavsftw can both suck my balls

[knicksman]

0. Only beta fakkits would give him respect

[dreamwarrior]

Honestly he's been one of the best players in the game ever since he entered the NBA. By far the most impressive thing he's ever done was take CLEVELAND to the finals. I mean who would have thought, right? Neither Love or Garnett did that with Minny. Melo ALMOST did it with Denver but came up short. So honestly I'd have to give him a 2.5 out of 10

[WadeBronDonJuan]

2/5

:pimp:

stay mad, negro boy.


Not mad, not black either.

I'm just glad i'm not as ignorant or scared as you.

[sd3035]

3/10

[coin24]

Could only win 2/4 on a super stacked team with refs help?
Pathetic
2/5 overall in the finals?:lol


1 out of 10. No respect for small di.ck betas

[houston]

10 as a player