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Bigsmoke
05-03-2015, 02:34 AM
What was Pop thinking?

navy
05-03-2015, 02:37 AM
Danny Green is a better man defender than Kawhi who allows himself to be caught up on screens.
Naturally you expected the Clippers to run the pick and roll, although Chris Paul just isolated and made a tough shot.

Bigsmoke
05-03-2015, 02:42 AM
Danny Green is a better man defender than Kawhi who allows himself to be caught up on screens.
Naturally you expected the Clippers to run the pick and roll, although Chris Paul just isolated and made a tough shot.

Green defense is above average and his defense was horrible on that play

Mr. Jabbar
05-03-2015, 02:44 AM
you don't need to guard cp3 during crunch time, this was an unlikely scenario, pop gets a pass

BuffaloBill
05-03-2015, 02:45 AM
CP3 was torching Kawhi all series long. Green did a good job, CP3 just hit a circus shot and that was that.

jimmybball
05-03-2015, 02:46 AM
Leonard was only the 3 or 4th best defensive player this series. DeAndre and Danny Green were better, and potentially Duncan.

navy
05-03-2015, 02:46 AM
Green defense is above average and his defense was horrible on that play
If by above average you mean excellent sure.

And his defense was fine. Paul just pushed him off. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-M4T34uSMGg

Kvnzhangyay
05-03-2015, 02:47 AM
Green defense is above average and his defense was horrible on that play

Green was better defensively today than Leonard, and played pretty dang good defense vs Paul on that possession

T_L_P
05-03-2015, 02:54 AM
Leonard was only the 3 or 4th best defensive player this series. DeAndre and Danny Green were better, and potentially Duncan.

No potentially about it.

Kawhi was ineffective on everyone but Reddick. It was a disappointing defensive series for Leonard, while Duncan (who is and has been the most important and impactful defensive player for the Spurs) had a very strong series on that end.

navy
05-03-2015, 02:57 AM
No potentially about it (not even close).

Kawhi was ineffective on everyone but Reddick. It was a mediocre defensive series for Leonard, while Duncan (who is and has been the most important and impactful defensive player for the Spurs) had a very strong series on that end.
Not really. His rim protection was mediocre to the point that Austin Rivers was scoring in the paint. Although Kawhi/Pop should take blame for leaving him out to dry vs the guards.

T_L_P
05-03-2015, 03:00 AM
Not really. His rim protection was mediocre to the point that Austin Rivers was scoring in the paint. Although Kawhi/Pop should take blame for leaving him out to dry vs the guards.

Yes, his 20% shooting at the rim is very consistent with that line of thought.

His PnR defense has been horrible for years now. Parker was usually the one who left him on an island and miscommunicating.

Like I said, not really any potentially about it. Duncan will almost always impact the D more because of his height and where he plays, but this series Duncan did his job better defensively than Kawhi.

Paul George 24
05-03-2015, 03:01 AM
LEONARD PLAYS SHIT DEFENCE ON EVERYONE,HE BETTER IMPROVE HIS PICK AND ROLL DEFENCE IN OFFSEASON :banghead:

3ball
05-03-2015, 07:05 AM
http://cdn.makeagif.com/media/5-02-2015/sj1ap2.gif


Kawhi's footspeed is good for a forward, but not for a guard - the quickness mismatch leads to blow-bys like MJ vs. Garnett above.

The quickness mismatch prevents coaches from putting forwards on guards in clutch situations or extended situations.

When Dennis Rodman won back-to-back DPOY's as a SF (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=374199) in 1990 and 1991, Chuck Daly could only put him on MJ (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=359858) in spurts, not for extended periods.

And if you put a forward on a guard at the wrong time, you can pay the ultimate price (http://gifsforum.com/images_new/gif/other/grand/Jordan_Game_Winner_over_Rodman_cdfed0b0df8b81a04f9 cc8608a8e31bb.gif).

VengefulAngel
05-03-2015, 07:11 AM
To be fair he played good defense, he even fouled him lol.

JohnMax
05-03-2015, 07:14 AM
3ball never fails to mention Jordan

Smoke117
05-03-2015, 07:19 AM
http://cdn.makeagif.com/media/5-02-2015/sj1ap2.gif


Kawhi's footspeed is good for a forward, but not for a guard - the quickness mismatch leads to blow-bys like MJ vs. Garnett above.

The quickness mismatch prevents coaches from putting forwards on guards in clutch situations or extended situations.

When Dennis Rodman won back-to-back DPOY's as a SF (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=374199) in 1990 and 1991, Chuck Daly could only put him on MJ (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=359858) in spurts, not for extended periods.

And if you put a forward on a guard at the wrong time, you can pay the ultimate price (http://gifsforum.com/images_new/gif/other/grand/Jordan_Game_Winner_over_Rodman_cdfed0b0df8b81a04f9 cc8608a8e31bb.gif).

Dennis Rodman never had any business guarding perimeter players. You want to bring up your lover Jordan? Rodman was covering Pippen the majority of the 1990 and 91 playoffs and he got the rim at will pretty much. Drove right by him. No...not Jordan, but Pippen.


Unlike you...I'm not oblivious to facts...so if Pippen who isn't as quick or skilled a scorer as Jordan can drive right by Rodman...why is it exactly so special that Jordan could? Here let me answer for you: It's not.

jimmybball
05-03-2015, 07:24 AM
http://cdn.makeagif.com/media/5-02-2015/sj1ap2.gif


Kawhi's footspeed is good for a forward, but not for a guard - the quickness mismatch leads to blow-bys like MJ vs. Garnett above.

The quickness mismatch prevents coaches from putting forwards on guards in clutch situations or extended situations.

When Dennis Rodman won back-to-back DPOY's as a SF (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=374199) in 1990 and 1991, Chuck Daly could only put him on MJ (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=359858) in spurts, not for extended periods.

And if you put a forward on a guard at the wrong time, you can pay the ultimate price (http://gifsforum.com/images_new/gif/other/grand/Jordan_Game_Winner_over_Rodman_cdfed0b0df8b81a04f9 cc8608a8e31bb.gif).

You are the worst.

clipps
05-03-2015, 07:24 AM
It depends on the situation. Chris Paul had Kevin Durant locked down last year in at the end of game 4, but if CP guarded him the whole series, KD would average 40. Green defended Paul as well as anyone. He got by him, but still had to throw up a tough shot with Duncan's hand in his face. Shot just went down. Could have happened on Kawhi. CP is that kind of player.

Bigsmoke
05-03-2015, 08:10 AM
If by above average you mean excellent sure.

And his defense was fine. Paul just pushed him off. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-M4T34uSMGg




Paul wouldn't be able to push Kawhi like that

3ball
05-03-2015, 08:50 AM
No...not Jordan, but Pippen drove by Rodman.




:biggums: :whatever: :kobe: :lebronamazed: .. Most of these are from 1989 and 1990 ECF's:


Michael Jordan FG's on Dennis Rodman


Rim Attack (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=10706771&postcount=64)

Pull-Up Jumpshot (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=10451496&postcount=44)

Other Jordan FG's on Rodman (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=10454211&postcount=51)


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Paul George 24
05-03-2015, 09:05 AM
EVERYONE CAN BURN HIM THIS SERIES :banghead:

Dro
05-03-2015, 10:37 AM
3ball never fails to mention Jordan
Gotta admit though, prime KG, one of the greatest defenders of all-time, can't guard old MJ......:applause: