Kobe's legacy has taken some big hits in the last 5 years

[ImKobe]

Since winning b2b, his legacy has had a tough time:

- swept with HCA in 2011 Playoffs, choked 4th quarter Game 1 and missed the game-winning 3 that rattled out

- horrible 4th quarters against OKC in the 2012 Playoffs

- 2013 season, started out putting up 30/5/5 on near 50/40/90 shooting, team is dropping one game after another, then he goes into Kobe Johnson mode and has a legendary post-ASB run, tears achilles

- Duncan all of a sudden is looking healthy and has a comeback year, nearly leads Spurs to a win over Miami to win his 4th Finals MVP, until Heat have a miraculous comeback and Bran adds a title and FMVP to his name

- Plays 6 games before another season-ending injury in 2014

- Spurs win the title and Duncan catches up on the ring count

- Plays less than half a season before ANOTHER season-ending injury

- Gasol is now leading Bulls to Playoff wins, recent one being 21 pts 11 reb on 60% shooting on the road against Cleveland


This shyt is just sad. Kobe stans are taking L's every season since 2009-10.

Went from being compared to Mike and getting ranked top 5 all-time by analysts and peers to barely holding on to top 10 :kobe:

[navy]

people honestly shouldnt worry about stuff like that.....

Gonna be interesting to see Kobe play with Jordan Clarkson and whatever the Lakers manage to get next season. Will he chuck, take a step back, return to form.

[COnDEMnED]

Not really. Legacy was pretty much set after the second 2peat.

[ImKobe]

people honestly shouldnt worry about stuff like that.....

Gonna be interesting to see Kobe play with Jordan Clarkson and whatever the Lakers manage to get next season. Will he chuck, take a step back, return to form.

Expect him to look like he did the last time he played at Sacramento

one bricked jumper after another.

[Akrazotile]

people honestly shouldnt worry about stuff like that.....

Gonna be interesting to see Kobe play with Jordan Clarkson and whatever the Lakers manage to get next season. Will he chuck, take a step back, return to form.

Or fake an injury so he doesnt have to play on a bad team? Again

[SpecialQue]

Sorry, but no. Good try though.

[dh144498]

did OP forget to switch accounts?


:biggums:

[Hey Yo]

did OP forget to switch accounts?


:biggums:
Looks like it.

[dubeta]

Even his b2b was overrated 6-24 anyone?

You could say his entire career post-Shaq was mediocre

[ImKobe]

Even his b2b was overrated 6-24 anyone?

You could say his entire career post-Shaq was mediocre

Agreed. :cheers: Don't get why people stan this POS so hard.

[IncarceratedBob]

so his legacy took a hit post prime? LMAO once you leave your prime your legacy cant really be changed. look at duncan, his ring last year was post prime so it doesnt really affect his legacy in the big picture according to most bball experts just like losing in the 1st round this year doesnt negatively affect duncans legacy.

kobes legacy was cemented when he won his 2nd title without shaq.

[Dr Hawk]

He was great in 2013

[Hamtaro CP3KDKG]

Wouldnt put the 2011 and 2012 clutch on him too hard. Love Kobe but Dirk and KD are better clutch players

[Wade's Rings]

- 2013 season, started out putting up 30/5/5 on near 50/40/90 shooting, team is dropping one game after another, then he goes into Kobe Johnson mode and has a legendary post-ASB run, tears achilles

What were his numbers for this legendary run Post-ASB?

[ImKobe]

so his legacy took a hit post prime? LMAO once you leave your prime your legacy cant really be changed. look at duncan, his ring last year was post prime so it doesnt really affect his legacy in the big picture according to most bball experts just like losing in the 1st round this year doesnt negatively affect duncans legacy.

kobes legacy was cemented when he won his 2nd title without shaq.

nikka? :biggums:

When was Duncan in his prime? Like 2005? He was talked about as borderline top 10 player about 5 years ago in that same tier with Hakeem, and even then people was saying Hakeem is better (we all know peak Hakeem is better)

then, Duncan went to 2 more NBA Finals and was carried to his 5th ring, now all of a sudden the media tells us how the Spurs are a dynasty and how great Duncan is and how he's top 5 and shit.

So obviously his legacy has improved thanks to the two Finals runs, even though he wasn't putting up elite numbers.

[ImKobe]

What were his numbers for this legendary run Post-ASB?

29/6/7 on 46/32/82 shooting, Lakers had the top 3 best record in the league for the 2nd half of the season IIRC, at least top 5.

Lakers were 17-24 their first 41 games, 28 - 13 their last 41 games, and that's with Kobe playing point guard because we had zero depth at PG thanks to Nash and Blake being injured :confusedshrug:, Andrew Goudelock was starting for the Lakers in the Playoffs and a year later he was playing in Russia already :oldlol:

So yeah, 29/6/7 on decent shooting efficiency post-ASB while also taking the task of guarding the opposing PGs was pretty damn legendary, and considering that they improved so much compared to how they were playing in the first half of the season. Let's also not forget how Kobe badly sprained his ankle in the middle of that time period and it only took him 2 games to get back to playing at an elite level. At 34 years of age, I might add.

And he had 3 game-winners (Hawks, Hornets, Raptors) and a bunch of epic clutch performances.

b2b 40+ point/10+ assist games vs Hornets and Raptors, in both games Lakers had huge comeback wins (came back from 25 down in the 2nd half on the road vs Hornets, hit 3 straight 3s to force OT and had game-winning dunk vs raps)


2011 and 2012 are forgettable, because I could throw in a bunch of excuses about fatigue from 3 straight Finals runs and then the lockout happened and no HCA vs a younger OKC squad etc...

After achilles happened, I knew this shit was going to be bad.

[jimmybball]

people honestly shouldnt worry about stuff like that.....


But they do and will continue to do so.

[Wade's Rings]

29/6/7 on 46/32/82 shooting, Lakers had the top 3 best record in the league for the 2nd half of the season IIRC, at least top 5.

Lakers were 17-24 their first 41 games, 28 - 13 their last 41 games, and that's with Kobe playing point guard because we had zero depth at PG thanks to Nash and Blake being injured :confusedshrug:, Andrew Goudelock was starting for the Lakers in the Playoffs and a year later he was playing in Russia already :oldlol:

So yeah, 29/6/7 on decent shooting efficiency post-ASB while also taking the task of guarding the opposing PGs was pretty damn legendary, and considering that they improved so much compared to how they were playing in the first half of the season. Let's also not forget how Kobe badly sprained his ankle in the middle of that time period and it only took him 2 games to get back to playing at an elite level. At 34 years of age, I might add.

And he had 3 game-winners (Hawks, Hornets, Raptors) and a bunch of epic clutch performances.

b2b 40+ point/10+ assist games vs Hornets and Raptors, in both games Lakers had huge comeback wins (came back from 25 down in the 2nd half on the road vs Hornets, hit 3 straight 3s to force OT and had game-winning dunk vs raps)


2011 and 2012 are forgettable, because I could throw in a bunch of excuses about fatigue from 3 straight Finals runs and then the lockout happened and no HCA vs a younger OKC squad etc...

After achilles happened, I knew this shit was going to be bad.

:bowdown:

[ImKobe]

But they do and will continue to do so.

shut up, you condescending asshole.

[pegasus]

29/6/7 on 46/32/82 shooting, Lakers had the top 3 best record in the league for the 2nd half of the season IIRC, at least top 5.

Lakers were 17-24 their first 41 games, 28 - 13 their last 41 games, and that's with Kobe playing point guard because we had zero depth at PG thanks to Nash and Blake being injured :confusedshrug:, Andrew Goudelock was starting for the Lakers in the Playoffs and a year later he was playing in Russia already :oldlol:

So yeah, 29/6/7 on decent shooting efficiency post-ASB while also taking the task of guarding the opposing PGs was pretty damn legendary, and considering that they improved so much compared to how they were playing in the first half of the season. Let's also not forget how Kobe badly sprained his ankle in the middle of that time period and it only took him 2 games to get back to playing at an elite level. At 34 years of age, I might add.

And he had 3 game-winners (Hawks, Hornets, Raptors) and a bunch of epic clutch performances.

b2b 40+ point/10+ assist games vs Hornets and Raptors, in both games Lakers had huge comeback wins (came back from 25 down in the 2nd half on the road vs Hornets, hit 3 straight 3s to force OT and had game-winning dunk vs raps)


2011 and 2012 are forgettable, because I could throw in a bunch of excuses about fatigue from 3 straight Finals runs and then the lockout happened and no HCA vs a younger OKC squad etc...

After achilles happened, I knew this shit was going to be bad.
This. Kobe was great in 2012-2013. He should have won the MVP. He did what Westbrook couldn't do with a better cast.

[mehyaM24]

to piggyback on op's sentiments, here are some facts that make him overrated during his prime:

- one possession games since 2003, kobe fg% has been 30.4 %. comparing him to other stars like lebron (48.9%) and dirk (43.9%) is almost embarrassing.

- since 1996-97, in the last 24 seconds trailing by two or less, kobe’s FG% stands at 31.3%, just 1.6% higher than the league average. carter, allen, lebron, dirk, paul and carmelo are just a handful of the players with much better efficiency.

i would also like to see kobe fans spin these arguments and keep on spamming on how he is the greatest. “BUT KOBE IS THE MOST DETERMINED EVER, YOU ALL HATERZ” :oldlol:

it’s pathetic to see how brainwashed people are. disagree about kobe being the greatest player ever and you automatically get called a “hater”, without them providing actual evidence - you have topics that are based on pure conjecture and others that are constructive. this falls on the latter one. so props to op, a legit kobe fan who recognizes his failures.

[ImKobe]

[QUOTE=mehyaM24]to piggyback on op's sentiments, here are some facts that make him overrated during his prime:

- one possession games since 2003, kobe fg% has been 30.4 %. comparing him to other stars like lebron (48.9%) and dirk (43.9%) is almost embarrassing.

- since 1996-97, in the last 24 seconds trailing by two or less, kobe

[ThePhantomCreep]

The OP needs to restock on his medicine for bipolar disorder.

[Levity]

hit 3 straight 3s to force OT and had game-winning dunk vs raps

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still one of my favorite endings to a game ever.

[chazzy]

[QUOTE=mehyaM24]
- since 1996-97, in the last 24 seconds trailing by two or less, kobe

[Akrazotile]

Oh shit

[oh the horror]

Lebron's is right around the same I believe




RIP FG % talks

[Done_And_Done]

This thread is exactly what I would show to an outsider inquiring about ish...