Lebron's 3PT shooting so far, Konex curse?

[pauk]

17.4% from 3PT land this playoffs, on ~5 attempts per game, 4 of 23.... wtf happened? Is this the KONEX CURSE at work? :biggums:

Obviously we know a good 3PT shooter can go through a bad shooting stretch from there but the player would then always have a good shooting night/nights and fix/normalize that percentage, but it has yet to happen..... still waiting for that/those games, but it doesnt seem like its coming... sure could have used it last night, all shots were in and out, shots that could have won the game...

[Im Still Ballin]

The konex curse was broken,

It's the Im Still Ballin curse now,

[pauk]

The konex curse was broken,

It's the Im Still Ballin curse now,

:mad:

[Dr Hawk]

Did Konex say something?

Honestly, there is no need of any Konex curse to make LeBron shot bad from 3P

[BuffaloBill]

17.4% from 3PT land this playoffs, on ~5 attempts per game, 4 of 23.... wtf happened? Is this the KONEX CURSE at work? :biggums:

Obviously we know a good 3PT shooter can go through a bad shooting stretch from there but the player would then always have a good shooting night/nights and fix/normalize that percentage, but it has yet to happen..... still waiting for that/those games, but it doesnt seem like its coming... sure could have used it last night, all shots were in and out, shots that could have won the game...


:roll:

[Beastmode88]

:roll:

What next? He's a good FT shooter? :roll: :roll:

[Dresta]

Bron's jumper tends to freeze up whenever he starts to feel a bit of pressure; it's just one of the many characteristics that result from his congenital mental frailty.

[SpecialQue]

CP3 single-handedly ended the Konex curse.

[pauk]

:roll:


What next? He's a good FT shooter? :roll: :roll:

wow... would LOVE to see your criteria of what is only a "good" 3PT shooter in your eyes... Ray Allen? lol...

I think there is:

Average - 30%
Good - 35%
Very Good - 40%
Pure shooting - 40%++

Lebron has been around that "good" his entire career and past few years (except for this year) he has been around that "very good" level (shooting over or around 40%)....

17% he does now tho.... yea... is horrible, Shaq like...

[pauk]

Bron's jumper tends to freeze up whenever he starts to feel a bit of pressure; it's just one of the many characteristics that result from his congenital mental frailty.

"tends" means his jumper freezes up more likely "whenever he starts to feel a bit of pressure"..... and that factually is not true, more like the biggest opposite....

He can have a bad shooting night, but never for this long a stretch....

17% .... dont remember him EVER shooting that 3PT% with this many or more games in the playoffs.... hell, even in 11' Finals he shot 32% from 3pt land...

But hey, you can live in your delusional world if it makes you feel better as a Lebron cynic... :cheers:

[3ball]

17.4% from 3PT land this playoffs, on ~5 attempts per game, 4 of 23.... wtf happened? Is this the KONEX CURSE at work? :biggums:

Obviously we know a good 3PT shooter can go through a bad shooting stretch from there but the player would then always have a good shooting night/nights and fix/normalize that percentage, but it has yet to happen..... still waiting for that/those games, but it doesnt seem like its coming... sure could have used it last night, all shots were in and out, shots that could have won the game...
I've been trying to tell you for the better part of a year now, that MJ was the vastly superior 3-point shooter.. I'm just the messenger - these are the stats talking - for his career, MJ shot 37% in the Finals (42/114), compared to Lebron's 31% for his completed Finals career (42/135).

Clearly, those figures show that MJ could morph into an elite 3-point shooter anytime it was the optimally-effective way to beat a defense.. But everyone knew his rim attack was so strong, that MJ floating around on the perimeter for 3-pointers was rarely the optimal route for his team's offense, or his game.. He says exactly that here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2CyJdCq-zU&t=0m11s
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[Dresta]

"tends" means his jumper freezes up more likely "whenever he starts to feel a bit of pressure"..... and that factually is not true, more like the biggest opposite....

He can have a bad shooting night, but never for this long a stretch....

17% .... dont remember him EVER shooting that 3PT% with this many or more games in the playoffs.... hell, even in 11' Finals he shot 32% from 3pt land...

But hey, you can live in your delusional world if it makes you feel better as a Lebron cynic... :cheers:
Sorry, did you just bring up the 2011 finals in an attempt to rebut the fact Bron freezes up in high pressure situations? :oldlol:

http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/miamiheat/post/_/id/8778/the-lebron-james-4th-quarter-experience


We'll start with the cold, hard numbers. Over at TrueHoop, the ESPN Stats & Info group delivers the goods. They've found that James has scored just 11 points in the fourth quarter in the Finals, which comes to an average of 2.2 points per game in that quarter, down from his average of 7.6 points in the previous three rounds this season. That means he's contributing less than a third of the scoring that he normally did heading into the series against Dallas.

But it gets worse. If we sharpen the focus to just crunch-time (less than five minutes remaining, score within five points), James' numbers fall off a cliff:
Perhaps most startling of all is LeBron James’ crunch-time absence in a series that has seen all five games decided late. When the score has been within five points in the last five minutes, James has yet to score in the series, missing all seven shots. Those numbers contrast sharply with Dirk Nowitzki's 26 crunch-time points on 8-13 shooting, not to mention the 34-point difference in plus-minus.

S & I informs us that James doesn't even have a crunch-time rebound either. It's a stark contrast to what he was doing previously in the playoffs in the clutch, when he shot a hot 15-for-31 (48.4 percent) entering the Finals (NBA average is 39.2 percent in these situations.) His efficiency from the floor had been better than anything we'd seen in years.

Want another stat? ESPN Insider's John Hollinger provides some framework around James' 11 points in 60 fourth-quarter minutes:
That’s a wee bit south of superstar territory. Actually, it’s a wee bit south of Juwan Howard territory -- he averaged 14 points per 60 minutes this season. Every Miami player except Joel Anthony scored at a higher rate.

Don't care for statistics? Well, do you dig pictures? Well, Tom Ziller of SB Nation has just the thing for you. Over at his NBA blog, Ziller put together a fantastic infographic called "LeBron James Every Shot Review" that illustrates, well, every shot James has taken in the Finals. When did he take them? Where did he take them? Did it go in? Go check it out.

Ziller sums it up by comparing James -- not to Howard or Anthony like Hollinger did -- but to [gasp!] Mike Bibby:

So not only is LeBron being less aggressive a scorer in the fourth quarter, and not only is he relying more on jumpers than inside play than in the second and third quarters, not only is he missing most of his shots in fourth ... he's also getting worse altogether as the series rolls on. At this rate, by Game 7 he'll be Mike Bibby. It's a perfect storm of misery.

I don't know who should be more upset, James or his teammates for being the punchline. If the statistics and the infographic doesn't do anything for you, then you'll certainly enjoy the prose from SI.com's Zach Lowe and John Krolik here at Heat Index.

First, Krolik, who has watched as many games of James as anybody, points out that James has shot 3-for-21 in outside 15 feet in the Heat's three losses. And one particular 3-point shot from James, the one with just under two minutes left, struck a chord.

From the moment that 3-point attempt left James' hand, it had no chance -- the ball looked like it was filled with helium, and veered toward the rim like it hadn't been given a set of directions. It clanged harmlessly off the rim, Jason Kidd made a 3 to put Dallas up two possessions, and it was all downhill from there.

With the score tied, LeBron was given three possessions to give the Heat a 3-2 series lead. By the time they were over, it was all but assured that Miami would have to play two elimination games.

Over at the indispensable Point Forward blog, Lowe combs through James' struggles of recent times and notices that he's still being passive. Especially late in games:

When a Wade/Udonis Haslem pick-and-roll went nowhere with 4:05 left, Wade dished to James on the perimeter, and LeBron tossed a hot-potato pass through a thicket of Dallas arms toward Haslem in the lane. Kidd deflected it. The idea was a decent one, but it was a high-risk pass. And, again, this is LeBron James against Jason Kidd with no screener in the way to muck up his path to the basket.

These were not isolated incidents. James started the game taking long jumpers, and he only began attacking the hoop after Miami coach Erik Spoelstra forced him to by calling for repeated postups. And James still falls into the habit of standing around late in games when Spoelstra calls a Wade-centric pick-and-roll.

Breakdown of the shots he took:

http://www.sbnation.com/nba/2011/6/10/2217144/lebron-james-miami-heat-nba-finals-2011


When the pressure is turned up, Bron goes cold, and has done, again and again, all throughout his career. Could you deny reality any more than you are right now? Typical Pauk :lol

[Hittin_Shots]

CP3 single-handedly ended the Konex curse.

Is the Konex curse getting it's revenge on his hamstring?

[pauk]

You freakin guys....

Ok so... Lebron sucks, horrible 3PT shooter, 17% is no surprise whatsoever.... he "tends" to do that shit... he is a choker... **** him....

If i can one day be as objective as you guys it would be a blessing. :bowdown:

[3ball]

If i can one day be as objective as you guys it would be a blessing. :bowdown:


But can you be objective as Jerry West and Ron Artest though:


Jerry West: "I've seen some incredible players," West says. "I mean, the Lakers had some incredible players--Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, Magic Johnson--and it's awful to say, but Michael Jordan is the best player I've ever seen.

"People get enamored with his spectacular physical presence, but his skill level . . . if his skill level wasn't that good, he'd be another guy who you'd see on the highlight films a lot, but he wouldn't have been thought of as maybe the greatest player that ever played the game. Right now, I don't know who's a better jump-shooter."

http://articles.latimes.com/1996-05-12/magazine/tm-3107_1_michael-jordan/4


Ron Artest: "Jordan was the toughest to guard because he's as strong as Lebron, he shoots as good as Reggie Miller from the mid-range, and because he's tough. He's a killer out there on the court."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5dXZxj6Zbc&t=0m57s

[Hamtaro CP3KDKG]

A sht unskilled shooter shooting a sht percentage. This aint news

[DonDadda59]

Ok so... Lebron sucks, horrible 3PT shooter, 17% is no surprise whatsoever.... he "tends" to do that shit... he is a choker... **** him....


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_IXzU-lnLU :confusedshrug: