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SugarHill
05-07-2015, 03:23 PM
which is more disastrous for LeBron's career? The 2/6 comes with a sweep, too.

Mr. Jabbar
05-07-2015, 03:25 PM
theoretically: bulls. reality: 2/6. its just too funny :oldlol:

VengefulAngel
05-07-2015, 03:27 PM
Losing to Bulls, but neither has much impact (Positive or negative).

jimmybball
05-07-2015, 03:28 PM
Losing to Bulls.

jimmybball
05-07-2015, 03:29 PM
Especially if the Bulls then lose to the Hawks/Wizards, who then lose in the Finals.

HylianNightmare
05-07-2015, 03:30 PM
I assume they lose to the bulls who then lose in the ecf

navy
05-07-2015, 03:32 PM
It's better to lost in the second than the finals

G0ATbe
05-07-2015, 03:45 PM
I'd rather see 2/6.

BigTicket
05-07-2015, 03:53 PM
Ridiculous question. Obviously it's better to win the 2nd + 3rd round, than it is to lose in the 2nd round.

Psileas
05-07-2015, 03:53 PM
Why is it that only the Finals are measured in terms of fractions?
LeBron has a 6/9 record in conference semis and losing to the Bulls would make it 6/10. Do you think this is impressive for an ATG?

Russell is 13/13.
Kareem is 15/17.
Wilt is 12/13.
Jordan is 8/10.
Magic is 10/11.
Bird is 9/12.
Duncan is 9/15, but playing in the West.
Shaq is 9/13.

EDIT: Miscalculated Magic.

BigTicket
05-07-2015, 04:00 PM
The only meaningful fraction is rings/years

Losses before the finals are worse than losses in the finals.

Chadwin
05-07-2015, 04:14 PM
Why is it that only the Finals are measured in terms of fractions?
LeBron has a 6/9 record in conference semis and losing to the Bulls would make it 6/10. Do you think this is impressive for an ATG?

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because that's usually the only time LeBron faces actual competition

BigBoss
05-07-2015, 04:25 PM
Rooting for the Cavs to make it the Finals! GO CAVS GO!!!

StephHamann
05-07-2015, 04:29 PM
Saw a documentary about Ottmar Hitzfeld yesterday. (Football Coach in Europe)

He lost the Champions League final in 99, they played in the final again in 2001 and won.

He said he never felt that much pressure in his career, because if you lose 2 finals in a row you will be labeled a loser. And losing on the biggest stage multiple times is worse than losing in earlier rounds.

:applause:

JerrySeinfeld
05-07-2015, 04:30 PM
2 for 6 is worse for his legacy. Period.

In most cases if your team isn't good enough then they just aren't, so losing earlier in the playoffs doesn't really hurt your resume much.

But what LeBron has done by circumventing the process of building up his teams, by team hopping and forming super teams in the weak East, is basically set the standard of championship or bust, basically every year. Not a testament to how good he is, more of a testament to how stacked his teams are in an extremely weak conference.

So yeah, 2/6 would be bad for a guy who disregards all loyalty while hand picking his supporting cast.

NumberSix
05-07-2015, 04:30 PM
Losing to the bulls.

imnew09
05-07-2015, 04:37 PM
lol can you imagine a top 10 player being 2/6 :lol :lol :lol :lol

Gon be top 15 when he retires

Trollsmasher
05-07-2015, 04:39 PM
He should lose in ECF

SpaceJammeR
05-07-2015, 05:19 PM
idk why people expecting lebrun to win a year this year. with no k love they not winning everything.

TheMarkMadsen
05-07-2015, 05:21 PM
making the finals in this east just isn't that big of an accomplishment for an ATG who has an all star beside him, when you look at his biggest competition you're just like "yeah this dude should easily make the finals"

getting swepted again in the finals would be awful

Young X
05-07-2015, 05:26 PM
^ Swepted?

FLDFSU
05-07-2015, 05:29 PM
How come no one is mentioning the easy path the Hawks have to the Finals? You cannot get a much easier path...

Megabox!
05-07-2015, 06:31 PM
^ Swepted?
Kobe stan

Optimus Prime
05-07-2015, 06:34 PM
Losing to the Bulls would be easier for the media to spin. Losing before the Finals in these pathetic Leastern conferences should drag down LeBeta's legacy, but of course, dat media hype makes him impervious to legit criticism and facts.

Losing in the Finals, especially to a sweep or 4-1, would be hilarious.

2*/6..."Top 10 Player"...:roll:

branslowski
05-07-2015, 06:46 PM
Kobe 5/7...Sh!ttin on Bron either way

Blue&Orange
05-07-2015, 06:53 PM
If you make it to the finals your team is good enough, if you're the goat, you should easily win. If your team loses in the first round it's because your team isn't good enough.

So yeah, i wonder what's worse losing on a bad team, or losing on a good team :rolleyes:


The "making to the finals it's better than...", it's just ignorant damage control.

bballnoob1192
05-07-2015, 07:01 PM
no one is gonna remember if lebron loses to the bulls 10 years from now. but 2/6 will be remember for a long time. much like no one brings up hakeems shitty ass playoff records, but they always remember him for carrying scrubs to back-to-back titles. second round loss to the bulls will be bad for lebron, but his identity/reputation in the league has already been establish. people will talk about it for the rest of the playoffs and that's it. 2/6 will be remember when he is getting a statue/HoF/Retire/Dies

kamil
05-07-2015, 07:04 PM
I'd rather not see LeCollusions fvcking face in the finals for a 5th time in a row.

ShawkFactory
05-07-2015, 08:01 PM
I'd rather not see LeCollusions fvcking face in the finals for a 5th time in a row.
Damn...so much anger.

Pop a Xanax bro. He's just a basketball player.

Legends66NBA7
05-07-2015, 08:32 PM
no one is gonna remember if lebron loses to the bulls 10 years from now. but 2/6 will be remember for a long time. much like no one brings up hakeems shitty ass playoff records, but they always remember him for carrying scrubs to back-to-back titles. second round loss to the bulls will be bad for lebron, but his identity/reputation in the league has already been establish. people will talk about it for the rest of the playoffs and that's it. 2/6 will be remember when he is getting a statue/HoF/Retire/Dies

2/6 will be remembered more than his basketball ability/production, accolades, and overall accomplishments ?

I'm pretty sure people won't care unless they were mindless haters of the guy. Infact, I guarantee that people will remeber him for the latter and will just say he won rings.

Big Cheese
05-07-2015, 08:38 PM
the only people who make a big deal out of 2/6 are retards who opinions are irrelevant.

Solefade
05-07-2015, 08:50 PM
only idiots think losing in the finals is worse

DFish24
05-07-2015, 08:51 PM
Either will kick him out of the Top 15.

Rose'sACL
05-07-2015, 08:55 PM
The only people who think that losing in the finals is worse must think that WEST is worse than the EAST otherwise this logic doesn't make any sense.

According to me losing to Bulls is worse than losing to the warriors but most of the ISH clearly thinks that bulls are better than any team in the west.

Real14
05-07-2015, 08:57 PM
Bronnella losing in tha 2015 semis iz definitely worst, and I can't wait:applause: :cheers:

branslowski
05-07-2015, 08:58 PM
The only people who think that losing in the finals is worse must think that WEST is worse than the EAST otherwise this logic doesn't make any sense.

According to me losing to Bulls is worse than losing to the warriors but most of the ISH clearly thinks that bulls are better than any team in the west.

Bron cant afford another finals let down....I mean you go from gettin swept, then to just choking and vanishing, to gettin cramps like a female on a period, i mean, seriously, only Jerry West is worst.

Rose'sACL
05-07-2015, 09:09 PM
Bron cant afford another finals let down....I mean you go from gettin swept, then to just choking and vanishing, to gettin cramps like a female on a period, i mean, seriously, only Jerry West is worst.
so lebron can lose to a worse team(bulls) than warriors and it would be fine but if he loses to warriors, it would be worse?

are you guys high or just stupid?

ArbitraryWater
05-07-2015, 09:09 PM
Bron cant afford another finals let down....I mean you go from gettin swept, then to just choking and vanishing, to gettin cramps like a female on a period, i mean, seriously, only Jerry West is worst.

Yeah, Jerry West, one of the best finals performers ever and an easily better finals player than Kobe :facepalm

Hey Yo
05-07-2015, 09:11 PM
2 for 6 is worse for his legacy. Period.

In most cases if your team isn't good enough then they just aren't, so losing earlier in the playoffs doesn't really hurt your resume much.

But what LeBron has done by circumventing the process of building up his teams, by team hopping and forming super teams in the weak East, is basically set the standard of championship or bust, basically every year. Not a testament to how good he is, more of a testament to how stacked his teams are in an extremely weak conference.

So yeah, 2/6 would be bad for a guy who disregards all loyalty while hand picking his supporting cast.
So it was better for Westbrook and Durant to lose in the WCF last season, than make it to the Finals and lose w/o Ibaka?

Optimus Prime
05-07-2015, 09:18 PM
Bron cant afford another finals let down....I mean you go from gettin swept, then to just choking and vanishing, to gettin cramps like a female on a period, i mean, seriously, only Jerry West is worst.

Jerry West ran into the one of the best teams of all time in Bill Russell's Celtics dynasty and also the best Knicks team ever.

LeBeta got swept by the Spurs, humiliated by JJ Barea and destroyed again by the Spurs in the most lopsided Finals ever.

http://usercontent1.hubimg.com/8039010_f520.jpg

VS

http://a.espncdn.com/photo/2012/1001/nba_g_james_gb2_576.jpg

Not even close to a valid comparison.

:kobe:

branslowski
05-07-2015, 09:18 PM
Yeah, Jerry West, one of the best finals performers ever and an easily better finals player than Kobe :facepalm

April 1st been passed doe...:coleman:

West 1-9 doe..:coleman:

ArbitraryWater
05-07-2015, 09:20 PM
April 1st been passed doe...:coleman:

West 1-9 doe..:coleman:

Jerry West 1962 NBA finals: 31.1ppg / 5.2rpg / 2.7apg on 45.6% FG

Jerry West 1963 NBA finals: 29.5ppg / 6.8rpg / 4.5apg on 49% FG

Jerry West 1966 NBA finals: 33.9ppg / 6.4rpg / 5.1apg on 51.5% FG

Jerry West 1968 NBA finals: 31.3ppg / 5.8rpg / 5.3apg on 51.4% FG

Jerry West 1969 NBA finals: 37.9ppg / 4.7rpg / 7.4apg on 49% FG

Jerry West 1970 NBA finals: 31.3ppg / 3.4rpg / 7.7apg on 45% FG



You = dumbass

"1-9 doe"

branslowski
05-07-2015, 09:22 PM
Jerry West 1962 NBA finals: 31.1ppg / 5.2rpg / 2.7apg on 45.6% FG

Jerry West 1963 NBA finals: 29.5ppg / 6.8rpg / 4.5apg on 49% FG

Jerry West 1966 NBA finals: 33.9ppg / 6.4rpg / 5.1apg on 51.5% FG

Jerry West 1968 NBA finals: 31.3ppg / 5.8rpg / 5.3apg on 51.4% FG

Jerry West 1969 NBA finals: 37.9ppg / 4.7rpg / 7.4apg on 49% FG

Jerry West 1970 NBA finals: 31.3ppg / 3.4rpg / 7.7apg on 45% FG



You = dumbass

"1-9 doe"

lol @ Water downed era inflated stats...1-9 is real.:oldlol:

ArbitraryWater
05-07-2015, 09:26 PM
lol @ Water downed era inflated stats...1-9 is real.:oldlol:

lol @ "Water downed", lack of education is real.

Optimus Prime
05-07-2015, 09:29 PM
lol @ Water downed era inflated stats...1-9 is real.:oldlol:

What is your deal. Bill Russell's Celtics are not "Water downed" (it's actually supposed to be "watered down").

:kobe:

Legends66NBA7
05-07-2015, 10:36 PM
lol @ Water downed era inflated stats...1-9 is real.:oldlol:

You're hating on an OG here

It's not his fault when he played and how they played back then. All he could do is play the best to his ability and help his team win. Majority of the time he did that but his team still didn't win. Sometimes he was playing hurt, like the Finals MVP he got and still put up a huge game.

funnystuff
05-08-2015, 12:04 AM
2 for 6 is worse for his legacy. Period.

In most cases if your team isn't good enough then they just aren't, so losing earlier in the playoffs doesn't really hurt your resume much.

But what LeBron has done by circumventing the process of building up his teams, by team hopping and forming super teams in the weak East, is basically set the standard of championship or bust, basically every year. Not a testament to how good he is, more of a testament to how stacked his teams are in an extremely weak conference.

So yeah, 2/6 would be bad for a guy who disregards all loyalty while hand picking his supporting cast.
wow this logic is so cringe worthy

305Baller
05-08-2015, 12:11 AM
2/6 is better.

L.A. Jazz
05-08-2015, 02:34 AM
Saw a documentary about Ottmar Hitzfeld yesterday. (Football Coach in Europe)

He lost the Champions League final in 99, they played in the final again in 2001 and won.

He said he never felt that much pressure in his career, because if you lose 2 finals in a row you will be labeled a loser. And losing on the biggest stage multiple times is worse than losing in earlier rounds.

:applause:
And the loss in 1999 was Spurs-Heat 2013 game 6 times 3. Brutal!!!

oarabbus
05-08-2015, 03:04 AM
2/6 is worse for his legacy, who are you guys kidding? If he loses to the Bulls they'll be talking about how K Love was hurt, the team was not constructed to win, Kyrie tried to take too much glory, etc.

None of this is true, of course, but that will be the narrative.

If he loses in the Finals all the blame goes to him.

Prometheus
05-08-2015, 03:19 AM
2/6 is worse for his legacy, who are you guys kidding? If he loses to the Bulls they'll be talking about how K Love was hurt, the team was not constructed to win, Kyrie tried to take too much glory, etc.

None of this is true, of course, but that will be the narrative.

If he loses in the Finals all the blame goes to him.

hmm

VengefulAngel
05-08-2015, 04:51 AM
2/6 is worse for his legacy, who are you guys kidding? If he loses to the Bulls they'll be talking about how K Love was hurt, the team was not constructed to win, Kyrie tried to take too much glory, etc.

None of this is true, of course, but that will be the narrative.

If he loses in the Finals all the blame goes to him.

Complete and utter bullshit, no rational person will ever argue that.

KDthunderup
05-08-2015, 04:56 AM
Truly shows how many easy trips he got to the finals off the back of playing in the East. LeBron would only have made max 3 finals series if he played in the West for his career.

Smoke117
05-08-2015, 04:57 AM
http://broscience.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/snake-plissken-cool.gif

Why are so people so caught up on Lebron...ugh. I've never gotten it. I've never had a like or dislike for him...I just have never cared. He's never garnered any interest in me either way...yet so many people are so obsessed with what he is doing whether in a positive or negative light. Lebron discussions just bore me...there are so many more interesting basketball stories season to season.

leBron Bieber
05-08-2015, 05:03 AM
losing to the bulls is impossible .. if you havent learned lord bron cant lose to the bulls.. he owns their souls year after year..

SpaceJammeR
05-08-2015, 05:09 AM
Truly shows how many easy trips he got to the finals off the back of playing in the East. LeBron would only have made max 3 finals series if he played in the West for his career.

yes and according to his haters that would've been better for his career right?

Chizdog
05-08-2015, 05:17 AM
yes and according to his haters that would've been better for his career right?

Yes, because making it to the Finals in the west is much more harder. Making it to the finals in the east shouldn't be considered as an achievement.

MP.Trey
05-08-2015, 05:38 AM
Obviously losing earlier to the worse team helps his legacy. C'mon now guys, quit playing around. I mean, hell, even missing the playoffs in your prime is more acceptable than making it to the NBA Finals.

ArbitraryWater
05-08-2015, 09:37 AM
2/6 is worse for his legacy, who are you guys kidding? If he loses to the Bulls they'll be talking about how K Love was hurt, the team was not constructed to win, Kyrie tried to take too much glory, etc.

None of this is true, of course, but that will be the narrative.

If he loses in the Finals all the blame goes to him.

not really... Cavs would be a huge underdog in the finals, even WITH Love people said no East team can touch the West... and you wanna tell me losing would change anything from the "Love is hurt" ? The hell? Love would still be hurt...