Top 10 Players 6'4 and under peak wise

[bizil]

When it comes to peak value, who are your top 10 players 6'4 and under? We all know Curry and Westbrook are gonna be near the top. But among guys who have played at least half to all of their career, who would u choose? I gotta roll with (no particular order):

Wade
West
Iverson
Isiah
Tiny
David Thompson
CP3
Frazier
Payton
Kidd

[the_troof]

cp3 should definitely be up there instead of that fraud curry

[KiiiiNG]

:facepalm

lol @ iverson, the lockerroom cancer

and lol @ curry > payton and kidd

huh?

[SugarHill]

CP3 should absolutely be there over couple of those guys



and lol @ curry > payton and kidd

huh?

no particular order

[24-Inch_Chrome]

If we're talking value I think Nash deserves a spot. His raw stats aren't all that impressive (shooting numbers are GOAT caliber though) compared to some of the guys you listed but his offensive impact/value was greater than any of them imo, he led his team to posting the league's best offense for 9 straight years.

[JimmyMcAdocious]

Listed 6-4 or 6-4 under CavsFTW scale?

[KiiiiNG]

CP3 should absolutely be there over couple of those guys



no particular order
whoops

and yeah, paul should be on over curry and iverson at the least

[bizil]

I was changing the criteria of my list while some of you were posting! lol I got CP3 on the list! lol

[bizil]

If we're talking value I think Nash deserves a spot. His raw stats aren't all that impressive (shooting numbers are GOAT caliber though) compared to some of the guys you listed but his offensive impact/value was greater than any of them imo, he led his team to posting the league's best offense for 9 straight years.

For sure! Nash is easily worthy of being on the list!

[bizil]

Listed 6-4 or 6-4 under CavsFTW scale?

I'm going listed at 6'4. There can be so much gray area with heights.

[Fudge]

Charles Barkley

[Suguru101]

Jerry West is the best player on that list.

Him and Wade really stand out out of everybody.

Both All-Defense, but West was a better scorer than Wade, and a better passer.

[Hamtaro CP3KDKG]

Jerry West is the best player on that list.

Him and Wade really stand out out of everybody.

Both All-Defense, but West was a better scorer than Wade, and a better passer.
CP is all defense and a much better passer/playmaker than either
much better slasher than Jerry and much better shooter than Wade

[SexSymbol]

Iverson
West
Isiah
Wade
Tiny
David Thompson
Curry
CP3
Frazier
Payton
Kidd
In this order

[aj1987]

Jerry West is the best player on that list.

Him and Wade really stand out out of everybody.

Both All-Defense, but West was a better scorer than Wade, and a better passer.
He was definitely a better shooter, but a better scorer? Wade is definitely the better slasher (one of the GOAT's in fact), has a very good post game, etc..

If you're using stats to measure West as a better passer, don't forget that he played in an extremely fast paced era.


Iverson
West
Isiah
Wade
Tiny
David Thompson
Curry
CP3
Frazier
Payton
Kidd
In this order
Retarded AF. Please stop posting.


CP is all defense and a much better passer/playmaker than either
much better slasher than Jerry and much better shooter than Wade
The only thing that CP3 does better than Wade is playmaking. Wade is the better scorer, defender, and rebounder.

[Hamtaro CP3KDKG]

He was definitely a better shooter, but a better scorer? Wade is definitely the better slasher (one of the GOAT's in fact), has a very good post game, etc..

If you're using stats to measure West as a better passer, don't forget that he played in an extremely fast paced era.


Retarded AF. Please stop posting.


The only thing that CP3 does better than Wade is playmaking. Wade is the better scorer, defender, and rebounder.
CP is a better defender. CP is a better rebounder for his position

[SugarHill]

CP is a better defender. CP is a better rebounder for his position
Wait, do you actually think Paul is a better player than prime Wade?

[aj1987]

CP is a better defender. CP is a better rebounder for his position
:roll: :roll:

:facepalm

[Rose'sACL]

CP is a better defender. CP is a better rebounder for his position
you are an idiot. i say this even though i like CP3.

[CavaliersFTW]

West is technically taller than 6-4, his list info is incorrect so he shouldn't be on the list as he doesn't meet the requirements

[Hamtaro CP3KDKG]

Wait, do you actually think Paul is a better player than prime Wade?
08 and 15 CP > Any Wade
he was also better in 09 RS before he got injured in playoffs

[VengefulAngel]

08 and 15 CP > Any Wade
he was also better in 09 RS before he got injured in playoffs

You're a fool.

[24-Inch_Chrome]

08 and 15 CP > Any Wade
he was also better in 09 RS before he got injured in playoffs

https://38.media.tumblr.com/432ae00c305ab5fe6ca39528146c27d1/tumblr_n2qsiz7V4A1r3z3gbo1_500.gif

[bizil]

Peak wise and GOAT wise, I think Wade and West are the top two players 6'4 and under ever. For my list, I said no particular order. BUT ACTUALLY, I think its Wade and West as the clear top two. After that, I think its more arguable.

And I had to include David Thompson on my list. In many ways, he was a precursor to Wade. A 6'4 freak athletic SG who was an unstoppable scorer. I don't think Thompson gets enough credit for redefining the SF position. Before him, all the great freak athletes were forwards like Baylor, Dr. J, and Hawkins. Thompson brought that high wire act to the backcourt.

[CavaliersFTW]

Earl Monroe

[CavaliersFTW]

Peak wise and GOAT wise, I think Wade and West are the top two players 6'4 and under ever. For my list, I said no particular order. BUT ACTUALLY, I think its Wade and West as the clear top two. After that, I think its more arguable.

And I had to include David Thompson on my list. In many ways, he was a precursor to Wade. A 6'4 freak athletic SG who was an unstoppable scorer. I don't think Thompson gets enough credit for redefining the SF position. Before him, all the great freak athletes were forwards like Baylor, Dr. J, and Hawkins. Thompson brought that high wire act to the backcourt.
West isn't under 6-4 though, he's over 6-4, he doesn't qualify he's closer to Michael Jordan or Kobe Bryant in height than he is to say, Jason Kidd

[bizil]

West is technically taller than 6-4, his list info is incorrect so he shouldn't be on the list as he doesn't meet the requirements

For MY CRITERIA, we are going by listed height. It is my thread so West BELONGS on the list. A poster asked me earlier about this and I said we are are going by listed height.

And I'm sorry I'm not a height guru like you. BUT EVERYWHERE U LOOK ONLINE WEST is listed as 6'2!! So why do u go on rants about height so much? Hell on NBA.com they have West listed as 6'2!! I suggest u write NBA.com and tell them to change West's height! This isn't really the place to do it BECAUSE everywhere u look West is listed as 6'2:

http://www.nba.com/history/legends/jerry-west/index.html

Just sayin!! lol PLEASE write the NBA and tell them to STOP spreading lies to the basketball fans out there! Your obsession with the heights of players would be MUCH BETTER SERVED!!

[CavaliersFTW]

Here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oj9jbyUlsPU

[CavaliersFTW]

For MY CRITERIA, we are going by listed height. It is my thread so West BELONGS on the list. A poster asked me earlier about this and I said we are are going by listed height.
Lol, so West has a clear-cut unfair advantage, as no other player in history to my knowledge has been underbilled at his height like he was and on top of that he also had very high shoulders and long arms giving him even more advantage.

He'd literally tower over all the other players that can meet your criteria.

List-height comparisons are pretty silly. Anyone who lists barefoot, or was underbilled has a huge real life size advantage in such a comparison. Anyone who overbilled their height yet should meet the requirements gets ommitted.

[SugarHill]

08 and 15 CP > Any Wade
he was also better in 09 RS before he got injured in playoffs
:roll: :roll:

[bizil]

Lol, so West has a clear-cut unfair advantage, as no other player in history to my knowledge has been underbilled at his height like he was and on top of that he also had very high shoulders and long arms giving him even more advantage.

He'd literally tower over all the other players that can meet your criteria.

List-height comparisons are pretty silly. Anyone who lists barefoot, or was underbilled has a huge real life size advantage in such a comparison. Anyone who overbilled their height yet should meet the requirements gets ommitted.

I've came around to the fact that West was 6'4 a while ago. With the 6'2 thing, I was pointing out the fact that the NBA lists him at that height. BUT PLAYERS in the NBA aren't listed at 6'4 1/2!! He would be either 6'4 or 6'5!! So its NOT A STRETCH to say he's 6'4 or 6'5!! So for MY LIST West fits the criteria! It's not like he's 6'7!! LMAO So PLEASE explain where the 6'2 height listing of West came from?

[CavaliersFTW]

I've came around to the fact that West was 6'4 a while ago. With the 6'2 thing, I was pointing out the fact that the NBA lists him at that height. BUT PLAYERS in the NBA aren't listed at 6'4 1/2!! He would be either 6'4 or 6'5!! So its NOT A STRETCH to say he's 6'4 or 6'5!! So for MY LIST West fits the criteria! It's not like he's 6'7!! LMAO So PLEASE explain where the 6'2 height listing of West came from?
Jerry West's shoulders sit so high on his body he's got a standing reach only 3/4 of an inch less than Rick Barry, a guy who once listed 6-8.

Had anyone bothered to measure him after say, his freshman year at WVU Jerry West would/should have listed 6 foot 5 in his era or 6 foot 6 in this era.

I can't explain to you why he listed 6-3 I can only speculate (he never listed 6-2, that number came from who knows where). As a freshman at WVU he measured 6-2 and 3/4 though, I do know that, and I presume that's where his "6-3" info came from and stuck. I'm only speculating though, West himself can't explain why he was listed 6 foot 3. Maybe it just sounded good, to be a 6-3 white all-american dude, made him a "David" in a league of Goliaths. I don't know I can only speculate. The height he claims to be would peg him only 1/4 inch shorter than Kobe Bryant in real life though, with long arms and high shoulders giving him the effective size of players even bigger than he was.

He's a lot taller than any other player who would meet your requirement of listing 6-4 or under. Though Wade and Frazier would be the next closest players I think in terms of real life height, at 6-3 and 3/4 for Wade and I think Frazier might have also been about 6-4 without shoes or nearly so. Most guys don't list that way though most tend to overbill themselves like for example Steve Nash, listed at 6-3, was 6 foot 1 in real life.

I think of a players real life height/armspan/weight/etc as a stat. I think of their list info as just made up numbers, because they usually are, and there are outliers like West that screw up comparisons because he's so far off the mark. Bill Russell would be another one. He's historically often handicapped/compared along side guys WAY shorter than him in real life. You see him standing next to a guy like Patrick Ewing or Dwight Howard and he's as tall or taller than them. And he towers over guys like Tmac or Ben Wallace - yet most people think the former are taller than him and the latter the same size. Can't explain why there are outliers like this, can only post that it makes comparisons based on list info frustrating, in my opinion.

[bizil]

Jerry West's shoulders sit so high on his body he's got a standing reach only 3/4 of an inch less than Rick Barry, a guy who once listed 6-8.

Had anyone bothered to measure him after say, his freshman year at WVU Jerry West would/should have listed 6 foot 5 in his era or 6 foot 6 in this era.

I can't explain to you why he listed 6-3 I can only speculate (he never listed 6-2, that number came from who knows where). As a freshman at WVU he measured 6-2 and 3/4 though, I do know that, and I presume that's where his "6-3" info came from and stuck. I'm only speculating though, West himself can't explain why he was listed 6 foot 3. Maybe it just sounded good, to be a 6-3 white all-american dude, made him a "David" in a league of Goliaths. I don't know I can only speculate. The height he claims to be would peg him only 1/4 inch shorter than Kobe Bryant in real life though, with long arms and high shoulders giving him the effective size of players even bigger than he was.

He's a lot taller than any other player who would meet your requirement of listing 6-4 or under. Though Wade and Frazier would be the next closest players I think in terms of real life height, at 6-3 and 3/4 for Wade and I think Frazier might have also been about 6-4 without shoes or nearly so. Most guys don't list that way though most tend to overbill themselves like for example Steve Nash, listed at 6-3, was 6 foot 1 in real life.

I think of a players real life height/armspan/weight/etc as a stat. I think of their list info as just made up numbers, because they usually are, and there are outliers like West that screw up comparisons because he's so far off the mark. Bill Russell would be another one. He's historically often handicapped/compared along side guys WAY shorter than him in real life. You see him standing next to a guy like Patrick Ewing or Dwight Howard and he's as tall or taller than them. And he towers over guys like Tmac or Ben Wallace - yet most people think the former are taller than him and the latter the same size. Can't explain why there are outliers like this, can only post that it makes comparisons based on list info frustrating, in my opinion.

U make some great points! No doubt about it. But unless you've watched the Jerry West video posted, seen certain pictures, or have seen the guys in person it does make things frustrating.

What makes West unique is the fact that most guys are listed taller than they really are. West is ACTUALLY listed shorter than what he normally is. When comparing West to other great SG's, the argument by many was he would be an undersized SG in today's game. Because he's listed as 6'2 all over the place. BUT in reality, West's height is really 3-4 inches taller than that!

[CavaliersFTW]

U make some great points! No doubt about it. But unless you've watched the Jerry West video posted, seen certain pictures, or have seen the guys in person it does make things frustrating.

What makes West unique is the fact that most guys are listed taller than they really are. West is ACTUALLY listed shorter than what he normally is. When comparing West to other great SG's, the argument by many was he would be an undersized SG in today's game. Because he's listed as 6'2 all over the place. BUT in reality, West's height is really 3-4 inches taller than that!
It makes list info really confusing. Draftexpress is a really cool tool for comparing modern player list information with measurement data. You can always draw an average (like on average, players exaggerate about 1 and 1/4 inches) but you can never catch the outliers that stray from the average unless you get specific. Every player is pretty much case-by-case as far as how tall they listed and how tall they actually were in real life. This is for any era from what I can tell, even the 1950's list info was not accurate.

For some of the past guys, Google News Archives and YouTube interviews helps because sometimes in interviews players admit how tall they actually are in real life or how much they weigh for a particular season or off-season, and in newspapers sometimes stories are printed revealing players armspans, etc. Because prior to the 2000's pre-draft "measurement" data had not been standardized. Though by the 1950's coaches in the NBA and NCAA had figured out arm length, vertical jump, etc were important measurements so occasionally some NCAA and NBA superstars had miscellaneous bits of that data documented, and shared.

[SHAQisGOAT]

In terms of peak, Sidney Moncrief has a great case... He was about 6'4.

In 1983, for example:
-DPOY
-4th in MVP voting
-All-NBA 1st
-All-Defensive 1st
-All-star
-Averaged 22.5/5.8/3.9 on .602 TS%
-4th in the league in offensive +/-; 2n in WS/48; 9th in PER
-Bucks won 51 and reached the ECF, with him (and Marques) as a 1st option
-Playing in a league with the likes of Bird, Moses, Kareem, Magic, Erving, Isiah, Gervin, DJ, English Buck Williams, Cooper, Bobby Jones, Roundfield...

Also, led the Bucks in points/rebounds/assists in 1982.
While Sid was there Milwaukee was one of the best in a stacked league, perennial 50+W teams, reaching 59 in '85. He had some very good Playoff series.


How about Stockton? He was more valuable for longevity than particularly peak, though.

[bizil]

In terms of peak, Sidney Moncrief has a great case... He was about 6'4.

In 1983, for example:
-DPOY
-4th in MVP voting
-All-NBA 1st
-All-Defensive 1st
-All-star
-Averaged 22.5/5.8/3.9 on .602 TS%
-4th in the league in offensive +/-; 2n in WS/48; 9th in PER
-Bucks won 51 and reached the ECF, with him (and Marques) as a 1st option
-Playing in a league with the likes of Bird, Moses, Kareem, Magic, Erving, Isiah, Gervin, DJ, English Buck Williams, Cooper, Bobby Jones, Roundfield...

Also, led the Bucks in points/rebounds/assists in 1982.
While Sid was there Milwaukee was one of the best in a stacked league, perennial 50+W teams, reaching 59 in '85. He had some very good Playoff series.


How about Stockton? He was more valuable for longevity than particularly peak, though.

Great calls on both of those!! In the all around sense, I think Sidney was arguably a top 6-7 SG of all time peak wise. He could literally do it all on the court! Other than MJ, Kobe, West, and Wade, what other SG was MORE COMPLETE in the two way sense?

And of course Stockton has a case for the list as well. U can't go wrong with either of those guys! I wish Sid had a longer prime because he was easily an HOF caliber player.

[SHAQisGOAT]

Great calls on both of those!! In the all around sense, I think Sidney was arguably a top 6-7 SG of all time peak wise. He could literally do it all on the court! Other than MJ, Kobe, West, and Wade, what other SG was MORE COMPLETE in the two way sense?

And of course Stockton has a case for the list as well. U can't go wrong with either of those guys! I wish Sid had a longer prime because he was easily an HOF caliber player.

I agree... Sid was an elite defender, very good all-around, efficient offensive player, and great rebounder for his position/size.

True. Injuries took him out at, still, a relatively young age. If he kept it going, he would've been less underrated by now; still, a spot in the HOF is overdue.

[MJ(Mean John)]

When it comes to peak value, who are your top 10 players 6'4 and under? We all know Curry and Westbrook are gonna be near the top. But among guys who have played at least half to all of their career, who would u choose? I gotta roll with (no particular order):

Wade
West
Iverson
Isiah
Tiny
David Thompson
CP3
Frazier
Payton
Kidd


How about Barkley?

He is 6'4.75

[24-Inch_Chrome]

How about Barkley?

He is 6'4.75

We're going by listed height. Barkley is listed as 6-6.

[CavaliersFTW]

How about Barkley?

He is 6'4.75
I think OP should stick to sub 6-4...

You get into the "6-4 and change" players, and you basically have several GOAT tier players and the little guys get pushed way down the list. I think OP's original intention was to make a thread for the little guys. He specified list heights anyways. But for the record, without shoes check this out:

Elgin Baylor: 6-5
Michael Jordan: 6-4 and 7/8
Kobe Bryant: 6-4 and 3/4
Oscar Robertson: 6-4 and 3/4
Charles Barkley: 6-4 and 5/8
Jerry West: 6-4 and 1/2

6-4 and a half to 6-5 is like a GOAT NBA player height range in terms of number of players it has produced that are of elite all-time caliber.

[tmacattack33]

2009 or 2006 Wade

2008 CP3



Those are the best that I've seen

[ClipperRevival]

Gotta give Kevin Johnson a shout. At his peak, he was giving you 22/11 and could get to the basket with the best of them. Of course, he falls short from the greats already mentioned but at his peak (which was only about 5 years), the guy was great.

[ClipperRevival]

I don't think 6'4" is a good cut off height because Wade and West were closer to your standard 2 guard size. I think the better cut off would've been 6'2" or under. That's when we are talking about short guys who really need to find ways to over compensate for their lack of height.

[theaussieguy]

I don't think 6'4" is a good cut off height because Wade and West were closer to your standard 2 guard size. I think the better cut off would've been 6'2" or under. That's when we are talking about short guys who really need to find ways to over compensate for their lack of height.

this, also cp3 and iverson are only 5'10 so its unfair to compare them against guys 6 inch taller playing different positions.

[Round Mound]

Charles Barkley and Michael Jordan Had The Best Peaks For 6`4 ft players.

[ClipperRevival]

this, also cp3 and iverson are only 5'10 so its unfair to compare them against guys 6 inch taller playing different positions.

Yup. It's comparing apples and oranges. Prime Wade was 6'4" and had rare athleticism. That gave him a huge advantage over a guy like CP3 or Isiah or Iverson on the basketball court.

[Round Mound]

Wade is more like 6`2 3/4 ft or 6`3 barefoot. No John Stockton mentioned?

[oarabbus]

Charles Barkley and Michael Jordan Had The Best Peaks For 6`4 ft players.

Barkley was like 6'4 and 3/4" at SHORTEST and MJ was ddefinitely over 6'4" as well. Get out of here :facepalm



this, also cp3 and iverson are only 5'10 so its unfair to compare them against guys 6 inch taller playing different positions.



Muggsy bogues laughs at you then dishes out 11 assists... Muggsy is the HeightGOAT. When you weight a players' height against their skill, Muggsy takes two shits on michael Jordan and AI and CP3 and everyone else.

[bizil]

I don't think 6'4" is a good cut off height because Wade and West were closer to your standard 2 guard size. I think the better cut off would've been 6'2" or under. That's when we are talking about short guys who really need to find ways to over compensate for their lack of height.

Those are good points. But PG's like Payton, Frazier, Kidd, Dennis Johnson, John Wall, Ricky Rubio, etc. are all listed at 6'4. It's not UNCOMMON really to have a 6'4 point guard. If u go to 6'3, then u have guys like Curry, Westbrook, Deron Williams, Derrick Rose, Kyrie Irving, etc. So for my list, I think 6'4 is a fine cut off point. The smaller PG's like an Isiah or Tiny were used to going against 6'3 to 6'4 PG's.

[Smoke117]

West is technically taller than 6-4, his list info is incorrect so he shouldn't be on the list as he doesn't meet the requirements

Wade is 6' 3.75" without shoes...so how is he exactly "technically" taller than his own actual height? :rolleyes:

[aj1987]

Can you guys not be dickheads and go with OP's criteria? :facepalm

[Euroleague]

Vassilis Spanoulis

[CavaliersFTW]

Vassilis Spanoulis
Seriously?

[CavaliersFTW]

Wade is 6' 3.75" without shoes...so how is he exactly "technically" taller than his own actual height? :rolleyes:
I said West.

[CavaliersFTW]

Charles Barkley and Michael Jordan Had The Best Peaks For 6`4 ft players.
If using a rounded number, they are "6-5" players

[CavaliersFTW]

Wade is more like 6`2 3/4 ft or 6`3 barefoot. No John Stockton mentioned?
Why does his draft data say 6-3 and 3/4 without shoes?

[sd3035]

Current Westbrook is up there

[24-Inch_Chrome]

Vassilis Spanoulis

NBA peaks only. No one cares about your scrub leagues. That's like giving an MLB player credit for their performance in AA or an NBA player credit for a D-League stint.

[kshutts1]

Honestly, can't people just use the given criteria? If you don't like it, make your own thread/list.

Anyway, Cousy has yet to be mentioned?

In no order, and probably not stopping at ten...

CP3
Cousy
Stockton
Wade
West
Frazier
Kidd
Payton
AI
Hardaway (you said peak)
Nash
Marbury (peak)
KJ
Westbrook
Curry
Tiny
Monroe

Likely forgot a bunch of people. To narrow that to a top 10, the top 9, ending at AI, are all in the top 10. The last slot would be a tough, tough choice.

[Dr.J4ever]

Has anyone mentioned Andrew Toney, the Boston Strangler?

Career cut short, but at his peak, he was as deadly a scorer as any SG in history, save for Michael.

He could shoot for range, shoot set shots, shoot mid range, create his own shot, and take it strong to the hole using his fine 6'3 frame. He was very physical and would dominate today, especially with today's rules on the perimeter.

If he wasn't with Philly, he would have led the league in scoring easily.
Great, great player.:bowdown:

[red1]

wade by far

[Pointguard]

When it comes to peak value, who are your top 10 players 6'4 and under? We all know Curry and Westbrook are gonna be near the top. But among guys who have played at least half to all of their career, who would u choose? I gotta roll with (no particular order):

Wade
West
Iverson
Isiah
Tiny
David Thompson
CP3
Frazier
Payton
Kidd

My top Five in no order.
Wade
West didn't see enough of
Isiah
Frazier
Kidd


Next six
West/Payton
Nash
Tiny
CP3
Iverson

[Euroleague]

NBA peaks only. No one cares about your scrub leagues. That's like giving an MLB player credit for their performance in AA or an NBA player credit for a D-League stint.

The thread did not say anything about NBA play only. Either change it to say NBA play only, or stop trolling.

Either way,

Spanoulis is the best 6-4 and under player of all time.

[24-Inch_Chrome]

The thread did not say anything about NBA play only. Either change it to say NBA play only, or stop trolling.

Either way,

Spanoulis is the best 6-4 and under play of all time.

It didn't say NBA because it's common knowledge that the NBA is the only professional basketball league worth anything. I wanted to bold the stupid but you did it for me. :oldlol:

Spanoulis was crap in the NBA, I doubt he was even the best 6-4 European league scrub.

[Euroleague]

It didn't say NBA because it's common knowledge that the NBA is the only professional basketball league worth anything. I wanted to bold the stupid but you did it for me. :oldlol:

Spanoulis was crap in the NBA, I doubt he was even the best 6-4 European league scrub.

In other words, you are a troll.

[24-Inch_Chrome]

In other words, I am a troll.

Bingo.

[Thechosen1]

its arguable we have never ever seen peak cp3 honestly

[MiseryCityTexas]

David Thompson was basically the D Wade of the 70s until the drugs ruined his career.

[CavaliersFTW]

David Thompson was basically the D Wade of the 70s until the drugs ruined his career.
And Dave Bing was the Wade of the 60's

[bizil]

And Dave Bing was the Wade of the 60's

Great call on Dave Bing!! Even though I didn't have him on the list, he is one of those guys deserving.

[ShawkFactory]

In other words, you are a troll.
Spanoulis > Dwyane Wade according to you.

And HE'S the troll :oldlol:

[24-Inch_Chrome]

Current West > prime Spanoulis.

[bizil]

Can you guys not be dickheads and go with OP's criteria? :facepalm


Honestly, can't people just use the given criteria? If you don't like it, make your own thread/list.

Anyway, Cousy has yet to be mentioned?

In no order, and probably not stopping at ten...

CP3
Cousy
Stockton
Wade
West
Frazier
Kidd
Payton
AI
Hardaway (you said peak)
Nash
Marbury (peak)
KJ
Westbrook
Curry
Tiny
Monroe

Likely forgot a bunch of people. To narrow that to a top 10, the top 9, ending at AI, are all in the top 10. The last slot would be a tough, tough choice.

Thank you guys!! I appreciate u respecting the criteria for my post. The criteria for my thread said listed height. The reason why I clarified that early on was to avoid confusion. We all know heights in the NBA can be off by an inch or two. So it makes PERFECT SENSE to go by the listed height. Once that was clarified, that makes the process crystal clear.

And two guys that were SICK at their peak that u listed were Marbury and Timmy Two Step!! For a long time, Starbury was only one of two players to have career averages of 20 points and 8 dimes a night. The other player was Big O! And Steph had those career averages for a nice chunk of his career.

[Wade's Rings]

its arguable we have never ever seen peak cp3 honestly

2008 or 2009.

[CavaliersFTW]

Current West > prime Spanoulis.
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[Straight_Ballin]

The thread did not say anything about NBA play only. Either change it to say NBA play only, or stop trolling.

Either way,

Spanoulis is the best 6-4 and under player of all time.

you've never watched a live Euro game in your life, stop trolling. Nick Galis was better anyway.

[Euroleague]

you've never watched a live Euro game in your life, stop trolling. Nick Galis was better anyway.

Galis has gone on record as saying Spanoulis is better than him.

[kshutts1]

@Bizil,

What's your story? What country are you from/live in? You seem to be a pretty knowledgeable poster, yet that's offset by one of the more difficult to read writing styles. Not hating, just an unusual mixture, so I'm curious as to your very general background.

[bizil]

@Bizil,

What's your story? What country are you from/live in? You seem to be a pretty knowledgeable poster, yet that's offset by one of the more difficult to read writing styles. Not hating, just an unusual mixture, so I'm curious as to your very general background.

I'm from the good ole USA! On these sites, I'm not on here to display perfect grammar! LOL I just like discussing hoops with those who know the game. I'm a college graduate who knows how to adapt my writing style to the situation. So if my writing style throws u off so much, it is what it is. Don't read my posts! I know u aren't hating. EVERYBODY is entitled to an opinion. But I'm ALSO entitled to defend myself.